K1MAN: Time for a Strategy

[k5xs]

K1MAN: It’s Time for a Strategy

What a mess. Glenn Baxter is asserting his “right” to broadcast from his Maine station K1MAN. Operating under his interpretation of Section 97.111 (b)(6), Glenn apparently believes that tying up frequencies for hours on end for the propagation of his views is justified as a “Transmission necessary to disseminate information bulletins.” To those who have challenged him, he has offered a 15 year-old letter as proof of the legitimacy of his practices.

In my opinion, the situation is bringing out the worst in us. As I type this, listening on 14.275 MHz, I have heard eight instances of the word “moron” on his call-in show (from both him and his callers), along with a stream of diatribe from Glenn on the corrupt FCC, the corrupt ARRL, how horrible QRZ.COM is for dropping his listing, the right to free speech, and the Riley Hollingsworth “brown-shirts.” Operators who disagree with Glenn are causing malicious interference, belching; swearing; transmitting obscenities, music and sound effects; and arguing on frequency. As an amateur, I am embarrassed by a display of what I had once thought was to be found only on rare occasions on 20 or 75 meters but more frequently on 11 meters.

It is my opinion that Glenn’s purpose in all this is to satisfy some emotional need. I have no axe to grind with him and have swapped respectful emails with him (until recently, when he suggested I was a coward or stupid for not being willing to debate him on his "program") but am unable to figure out what motivates his behavior. I am concerned that the mess is out of hand. He and those who are arguing with him are portraying our service in a horrible light to both the FCC and any members of the public who may be listening, and are jeopardizing our standing with the commission. I want to do something about it.

It seems to me we have a few options (and there are no doubt others I’m not smart enough to think of):

First, we can continue with what we are doing. K1MAN keeps broadcasting, and some of us keep responding by argumentatively participating in his call-in shows while others keep jamming him. I can’t for the life of me think of a positive outcome of this approach, aside from Glenn enjoying the contention he is creating. But the negative consequences are clear to me: We cede frequencies to his use, we lose even more credibility with the FCC, and our image is tarnished with the public.

Second, we could take a proactive effort to completely ignore Glenn. As effective as I think a “boycott” could be, and as much as I think this the best solution, I doubt it would work, though, since some will inevitably be tempted to continue their attacks on Glenn for the harm they believe he is doing to the amateur service. And I believe the harm is real from both Glenn and those who are reacting on the air.

Third, we might make an overt effort at persuasion, flooding Glenn with sincere e-mails (K1MAN14275@aol.com), letters (1 LONG POINT ROAD - BELGRADE LAKES, MAINE 04918 USA), and faxes (207-495-2069) respectfully asking him to stop his broadcasts for the good of the amateur service. I doubt we would succeed in changing his mind, but there might be value in letting him know exactly how damaging we think his operation is.

Fourth, we might look carefully and petition for more restrictive provisions in Section 97.111 (b)(6). Glenn broadcasts for longer periods than even the ARRL (whose broadcasts I do find useful). Should we petition for a one-hour limit, except when a condition of emergency is declared by the FCC? Should we petition for a rule change to require approval by endorsement for stations that transmit bulletins, and to make their approval contingent on a determination by the FCC of serving the greater good of the amateur community? I am generally opposed to problem solving by rule or statute, but this is one case that I truly believe warrants a solution.

And fifth, should we start a campaign to ask the FCC to do something—anything—to make the broadcasts go away? I was surprised and disappointed in reading recently that the FCC had received “a dozen” complaints regarding K1MAN. Would we help rid ourselves of this mess by bringing hundreds, thousands, or tens of thousands of complaints to the FCC?

I am open to other suggestions, and maybe the consensus here will be that we do nothing. I hope not, as I truly think this mess is ugly, is getting uglier, and is doing irreparable harm to amateur radio.

73,
Bernie K5XS

[ka1kjz]

It is quite obvious that he has suffered some sort of psychological break.

We can only hope that his family and/or friends intervene and get him the help he needs.

[wa4ddh]

Bernie: You stated it best "What a mess." This is Amateur radio at its worst, and it is unfortunate this this situation has continued on for so long, and I feel (in my opinion) the situation will never get resolved (and Baxter knows this). It is a mental mindset for him; "See, I can do what I want and the FCC and ARRL can't do anything about it."

I too once Emailed him many years ago and the only responce I got was some stupid statement about taking medication. At that point, I told myself the guy is a jerk, and I have not listened to his program since. Every now and then when tuning around on 75 meters, I here his broadcast, but I just tune-away from it and move to another frequency. That is the 'best' everyone can do, is just tune-away, move on, ignore his station.

I once met him at one of the Ham Fest (Hoss Traders) up there in Hopkinton, NH and didn't know who he was until Jeff (KA1OGM) told me I was speaking with Glen Baxter. When I went back, his Car was gone but he had left all his trash, AARA flyers all over the ground blowing in the wind all over the place. I guess that shows what kind of a guy he really is.

You know, "what goes around, comes around." Just ignore the guy and you'll be much better off. And you're right, "What a mess!" 73's Bill

[kx8n]

The guy wants attention, and he's getting plenty of it. Seems to me like everyone involved, for or against, is helping him achieve his goal.

[n9gqr]

I may not agree with him but I believe K1MAN has the right to broadcast bulletins the same as W1AW. I do listen and I enjoy the news part of the bulletins but the callers that call in is when I sometimes have to tune away. #I listen to some of the people who think that K1MAN is doing something illegal and just try and talk right over his broadcast. #I've heard them talking and waiting for his broadcast to start so they then encourage the others to write to Riley and complain of how K1MAN started broadcasting right over top of them. QRZ was childish by taking his call out of their database and in turn supporting the ones that do the qrming of his station. #QRZ should of just stayed out of the fray. #All I know is that K1MAN is legal and his QRMers are not even though they might think different. #The only way to solve the problem is for the FCC to mandate bulletins to broadcast only certain times of the day...Good Idea!

[WA4DM]

By giving K1MAN this attention we are feeding sugar to his ego. I personally despise him. He wants to be an amateur radio patriarch and will stop at nothing in order to accomplish his endeavor. When he is on the air, we need to ignore him and exit the frequency. Let the FCC handle this utterly foolish madman.

[al2n]

I just started to use this guy the same as a beacon.

If I can hear his signal from my QTH, then conditions are good. I turn the dial away from him and go about my way.

Till the FCC gets the fortitude to get rid of him, there is little we can do.

[W1CAR]

First of all, the W1AW bulletins are just that: brief and to the point. Glenn's broadcasts are far from that. He rants on and on (ALL DAY LONG) about crap that no one cares about but him and his two other friends in the world. In addition, he broadcasts the same thing, the same call-in talk show over and over and over and over again. How many times do we need to hear the same broadcast telling us about how he hates the FCC, despises Riley, and abhors Fred and QRZ?

His opinions and ranting do nothing but stir up trouble and create negative feelings within the amateur community. Far from good amateur practice. He is an instigator and a name-caller. He completely monopolizes 14.275 and any other frequency he chooses for his own purposes for hours on end, and does not care one damn bit if anyone in the world is bothered by what he is doing.

The best thing to do is this: if you agree that what he is doing is wrong, help the FCC put him away. Riley needs to hear from us, complaints about legitimate rule-breaking. So, just before Glenn's broadcasts, get on frequency and start calling CQ. Find someone to have a QSO with or a group of people to have a round table or net with. That way, when his transmissions key up over top of you, it will be considered intentional, harmful interference. It will prove that there is no control operator making sure something like that dosen't happen.

This is an open enforcment case that could become (and needs to) a criminal investigation. Therefore, the FCC needs documented complaints of interference that are signed and dated. Fax them to 717-338-2574. Print, scan and email them to Riley.Hollingsworth@fcc.gov or rholling@fcc.gov

...or mail them to 1270 Fairfield Road, Gettysburg, PA 17325

I emailed Mr. Hollingsworth just a few days ago with a complaint that he started his broadcasts again over an ongoing QSO. He informed me that it is an open case, attached the three most recent enforcement letters sent to him, and asked me to sign and date my complaint and mail or fax it to him, which I did.

Everyone needs to get involved or it will keep going on and continue to cause tension and make us all livid.

It's either that or someone needs to go to his house and pin his coax.

[kd6jhv]

Folks,
I'm not so sure that this is something that requires some of the drastic actions being talked about here. I'm by no means a K1MAN fan mind you but I am trying to be objective. For example, we all know of and some of us participate in nets that operate on the same frequency every day of the year. Some tie up a frequency for more than 12 of a 24 hour period. These nets operate because many of us like them and participate in them. But there are some people who do not like the nets, I dare say some people hate em, and some people will intentionally jam the net at times.

Now I suppose that a person who wanted to stop the net could get on the net frequency and have a qso every day before the net starts. And I also know that most nets would simply move to another frequency (if the QSO didn't agree to move). However if the net simply started transmitting over the QSO, there'd be a legitimate case of intentional intereference, and a complaint could be filed and enforcement action could be taken.

My problem with this approach is why? The bands are not that crowded, and most of us have a workable VFO. I guess what I'm saying is I think the severity of the problem is just in our heads. We so disagree with the garbage this guy spouts, that we convince ourselves that it must be illegal and we need to do something to stop it. Well, because we're insensed by his comments does not make his transmissions illegal. Much like the nets tieing up a frequency for WAS contacts or YL net or whatever.

This K1MAN thing is not new. And others have tried to set him up for legitimate inteference before. All this has been done already. And, the fact that we do not agree with this guys statements, does not mean he does not have a right to do what he does. That decision my friends is a matter for the FCC. There have been many legitimate complaints against this station. And it would seem to me that the only real issue therefore is the answer to the question of why then has there been no enforcement action from the authorities? Could it be he has the right to do what he does? I don't know. But my guess is, if the FCC could legitimately shut this guy down, they would have already done it. But for some reason they can't, yet... It's possible they're trying to find some legal way to do it but I'd bet he's got em in a legal quandry and so we're stuck with him. Just like those who don't like any other transmission nets or otherwise are stuck with them.

So,
if your really want some action on this issue there are only two real options. One, contact the FCC and ask em why they can't get this guy off the air. Most hams seem to think what he's doing is illegal but he has been getting away with it for years. So you gotta figure it must be legal then. I sincerely doubt you'll get anything other than lip service from this approach.

Option two. Start your own broadcast. We need about 10 or 20 of em to make K1MAN even more insignificant. Besides if he can do it then we all can right? This will get so many more people incensed that it will snowball until they will no longer be able to ignore it as they do now. I guarantee you this last option will get you some action. The results may not be what you want but you will get more then just lip service.

Now we just need some volunteers willing to put their calls on the line in the name of saving our precious bands from those who espouse such hateful things.

Any Takers?
Noel
KD6JHV

[K8YS]

his ticket is due next October. The Commission has the option to renew or NOT renew. With the current number of letters going back and forth, the FCC has every right to deny his application. Remember that they did not renew KV4FZ's and Herb did not violate FCC rules (ok, Herb had other "issues").


OOPS! I have been informed that I am incorrect, Herb is back in the database. I guess he won his appeal... but the FCC DID not renew, and did force Herb to appeal the action

Editors Note: #

Hmmmmmmm
The US Supreme Court has interpreted the First Amendment as if it requires this "wall of separation" between church and state. It not only prohibits any government from adopting a particular denomination or religion as official, but requires government to avoid any involvement in religion.

And from the original 10 Articles from the Bill Of Rights, commonly called Amendments to the Constitution -
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Technically, you are correct that the "exact" wording you quote as not being printed is correct but the intent and interpretation is not.

I guess a Masters Degree in American History with additional study in Constitutional law helps.

:-)

[K5DMI]

Bernie: You did a great job outlining possible options. While it troubles me that people such as K1MAN are getting their charge, those who flame him on air are acting no better.

I draw the line, however, when I read on ARRL site of FCC enforcement letters about his interfering with a hurricane relief net. An action like that needs to be dealt with swiftly. Any type of malicious interference to health/welfare traffic warrants immediate administrative action (e.g., license suspension). A hearing could always be held later to determine final action.

I have known of at least one case where agitators and the complainers wind up getting reprimanded, largely because those reporting the violations behaved no better than the violators.

All in all I think most people who have replied have the right idea about his emotional trouble. Unfortunately, personality disorders (if that's what he has) are best dealt with by not dealing with such a person. The hope is that by ignoring such a person that *he or she* might change his/her attitude. j c

[n0zu]

I #think that Baxter, dose this Brodcast just to get Attention.

you see i think that when Baxter was a little boy he was proubly
picked on in school. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

Since he is no longer in school this is his was of getting noticed again.

Baxter loves the Attention, that he is getting from #all of the people that key over him.
It makes him think that he is more powerfull than they are.
Kind of makes Baxter think he is GOD.
and he can do anything he wants to.

At one time I was talking to Baxter on the phone and he said to me
Should I run my brodcast for another hour in a half to to piss them off some more.

now he is running 24hours 7 days aweek #so no one can have that frequency.
and it is the same crap that he is brodcasting for at least 3 to 4 days
without changing anything.

Baxter says to be live on his show call an 800 number.
Guess what!!!! #It is a recording there to and not a live show.
all he transmits is a recording.
Then all you here is the Negative stuff,
and his brodcasts are not informative.
it is sick.

I am glad that I live in the midwest because the band coditions are so bad here I can not hear him here.

This little Boy Baxter needs to have his MOMMY or DADDY give him a
SPANKING, but I #for got that would be (childabuise) #

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[k8nqc]

I cannot join in the K1MAN bashing. I often listen to the shortwave bands including amateur radio. I find Mr. Baxter's information some of the more usable listening on the amateur segments. As an ARRL member, I have had to QSY often, especially in the CW bands, #to permit their announcements and code practice. That is only a minor inconvenience. If such announcements are a permitted activity, why should K1MAN be excluded? #I have heard some foul language on the frequencies in question and some poor operating practices but it seemed to come from Glen's detractors. There have been many amateurs who have given of their time and resources to provide on-air and off-air support including internet services such as QRZ and EHAM. I salute all of them including K1MAN.

I think some people just like to argue. # #73,

[g1ksw]

G1KSW (http://www.g1ksw.co.uk)

Ahh well whatever happens he acts as a good beacon over here in the UK.HI HI........:)

Good DX and 73's

[n7spy]

The Fellow Ham who said that K1MAN's "bulletins" can be thought of as broadcasts DOES have a point. Is there some kind of regulation within FCC rules that states where a QSO ends and a broadcast begins?

If what K1MAN is doing is interpreted as "broadcasting" (is that what HE is calling them... broadcasts?) then he needs to apply for a Commercial License... oh wait, considering his past, he won't get one...

Hmmm.. it seems to me that K1MAN MIGHT have to fight for the renewal of his license.. unless he plans on becoming a pirate station..

Then again.. he'd be missed as a beacon... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[n3qpc]

I can agree, something needs to be done with the length of some of his transmissions but as for the content, although i to not condone it I niether condemn it eitehr because America was based of freedon of speech and if we are going to keep taking away every little freedom we have w might as well move to china or somewhere.

I do agree he needs some restriction and have it inforced... but the part you mentioned in regards to the boycott well if we do that we will start acting as children when we dont get our way we want to cry and whine about everything... please do not get me wrong i am on your side but not on your side about total banning... that is wrong and two wrongs will never equal a right

God Bless

Ron

[w1hen]

As for myself, I have no use for the k1man "broadcasts".
It would be very interesting to find out just how many hams are "fer him" , and how many are "agin him".
Maybe QRZ could set up a little box to vote in, and it could be limited to one vote per call sign.
73's,
Rick

[N9WB]

This happened back in the 70s with another amateur. I don’t know what happened, but he is gone. The thing that hurt Amateur credibility worse than anything was the other Amateurs that committed rules violations trying unsuccessfully to stop him. They could not seem to understand that they were just feeding his ego.

I had a novice ticket then and a friend and I were studying the code together to get the 13 WPM for our generals. We used to come across this frequency and sarcastically joke that we were going to all this work to get our tickets so we could participate in this mess.

When a non-amateur observer passes by K1MAN, they view him as an unfortunate nut case. It is when they observe the jamming and emotional carrying on by others, that they question the credibility of Amateur Radio in general.

Don’t jam K1MAN or become part of the problem in any way. Also do not set him up. He already makes the case against himself well.

Here is the solution. When he does cause you a problem mail or fax a signed complaint to Riley Hollingsworth. Be specific, not emotional. State what rules violations occurred and how it adversely affected your legal pursuit of your Amateur Radio operation. These things take time, but with the proper arsenal of signed complaints, along with data the FCC is compiling themselves, Riley will eventually put an end to this problem. This can be done without new restrictive regulations.

Again, don’t be part of the problem. Show the observers that the Amateur Community by and large can behave in a disciplined and professional manner. K1MAN’s actions alone cannot seriously harm Amateur Radio. It is those who participate in the chaos that cause the credibility of Amateur Radio in the whole to be questioned.

Vy 73, Walt N9WB

[KA2LIM]

Rarely do I post, but had to on this one.
K1MAN means nothing to me. That stated: #W1AW brodcasts; K1MAN brodcasts. #If you are going to complain to the FCC about one then you best complain about both.
If you are bitching about K1MAN then he has won because you are listening to him. Jeeezzzeee.. turn that dial that is on the front of your transciever, it's called a VFO, there are other spots on the band, it is NOT channelized or change bands OR better yet, use the button that is labeled POWER and turn the thing OFF. #Get a life, go have a beer.... this is only a hobby

Ken

[K7JAZ]

Quote[/b] (w1hen @ Nov. 27 2004,14:27)]As for myself, I have no use for the k1man "broadcasts". #
It would be very interesting to find out just how many hams are "fer him" , and how many are "agin him".
Maybe QRZ could set up a little box to vote in, and it could be limited to one vote per call sign.
73's,
Rick

Try this:

http://www.qrz.com/ib-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST&f=3&t=74903

[ke4pjw]

So this quote gets me on the "Nurd" or "Brown Shirt" list??

Quote[/b] ]All I have to say about this, is as follows.

Mr. Baxter is claiming that QRZ.COM is infringing his "right" to "Free Speech" because he has been banned at QRZ.com while concurrently questioning Mr. Hollingsworth's legal prowess.

That is simply hilarious!

BTW: Glenn Baxter, since you are not a nerd, the correct spelling is nerd, not nurd. If you called me an "Amateur Nazi" you better pray that I don't find it documented anywhere.

[n4vox]

People like glen are the only dangers to ham radio. we are all bathed in his tripe. I can't believe the fcc ever let him keep a license.

[ww4kw]

Anyone that intentionaly interfeers with Health and Welfare traffic during a hurricane or major disaster,should be delt an immediant suspension and taken off the air. Thats all there is to it,simple enough.

[wv2b]

The legality of the K1MAN transmissions is something to be settled between the control operator and the FCC, likely through the courts.


But, by also breaking FCC rules because of disagreement with the content of the transmissions, stations are creating the havoc which gives all of amateur radio a "black eye".


One solution offered has been- "lets all get on first, then say he started on top of us". Well, if K1MAN is removed from the air it should be because of real rules violations. FCCPart 97.101 {B} states that "Each station licensee and each control operator must cooperate in selecting transmitting channels and in making the most effective use of of the amateur service frequencies". By choosing a frequency soley for the purpose of trying to prevent its use by another station, when normally they would not use this frequency, I believe these stations are violating FCC regs. Especially when a requency 3 Khz away is clear and could be used instead.


Also the jamming and other stuff is clearly illegal. The issue is not whether the K1MAN transmissions are illegal, but disagreement with the content, or a sick need to be in the middle of a controversy, thus trying to gain attention {fame?} for oneself. What will these people have to live for when and if K1MAN goes off the air? What will be the next issue or problem they can stir up to try and get famous? Leave the problem to the FCC and don't stoop to violating the rules in some crusade.

[KB2YWZ]

If K1MAN is broadcasting obcenity he is violating thr rules for any broadcast, and if this is recorded then it is intentional. Commertial stations get fined into the millions of dollars for even one violation.
What makes him so special that he can get away with it?

[VE3RPF]

My question is:
Why is he still on the air?

Seems to me that the FCC is tiptoeing lightly to ensure they do not overlook anything before shutting him down.
Therefore trying to prevent a lengthy battle in court.

Robert VE3RPF

[wa4ddh]

I have a Question to all those out there on this K1MAN Subject:

Years ago there was a publication called 'The Manchester News Letter' that told the truth about K1MAN and his broadcast. I have seen several of these News Letters at various Ham Fest up here in New England being distributed. Is this News Letter still available, and how can I get copies of it, and when did it start?

The ones I did read were really funny, and told it like it was about Glen and his organization. It was the only truth publication I have seen on the subject of K1MAN and what his organization was really about.

Where is it now? I think the last copy I saw was back in year 2001? Anyone out there know about this? I would like to get all the copies if they are still available.

73's Bill

[K1XJ]

I have been hearing about this great debate for some time but never heard any of the K1MAN broadcasts (or the QRM on same) until recently. If the K1MAN tranmissions are within FCC regulations - so be it. Deliberate interference by any one to any one is not within the FCC rules. We all agree on that Im sure. I have listened in on several K1MAN transmissions and personally found that 1/3 of what was being said had any thing to do with the Ham radio community at large. The other 2/3 of the tranmissions were obviously Mr Baxters own personal agenda. For an example the 45 minute on the air (or telephone) conversation with a ham in Canada about politics and US over-sea policy and the broadcast from a "caller" to Mr Baxter complaining about the lousy repairs Mr Baxter made to his plumbing and the the racial remarks made to Mr Baxter by the "caller" and of course Mr Baxters response to same. I fail to see what either of these issues has to do with ham radio. Then one of Mr Baxters "Fan Club" members
has Mr Baxters photo superimposed on a donkey on his QRZ bio. All the above mentioned is being #done by folks with a lot of fancy letters after their names indicating a high degree of education. Well, Ill tell yall what. The smartest man I ever met in my life is my 87 year old Dad. Dad only has a 10th grade education. We should all learn from this man, a 20 year Army veteran and WW2 combat vet. If Dad does not like you he will not look at you, speak to you, listen to you etc. He will neither help - or hurt you. He would not waste his time bothering you or making fun of you or anything like that. You just wont exist in his book. Humm this would solve most of the problems here what say OM? My point is that if I dont dont Like K1MAN transmissions, I wont listen to them. If I dont like what is going on on the air, ( the QRMers or anti K1MANers) Ill switch bands or just turn the darn thing off. If K1MAN is wrong , let the FCC handle it. If you dont like the broadcast, dont listen. I heard an anti K1MANer start an innocent qso on 14.275 the other night and drag his poor contact into a K1MAN debate without provocation from the other party and continue the qso about K1MAN after the other chap went QRT! Now we have an anti K1MAN guy broadcasting his own personal agenda. Where is this going to stop? Ill say it again . The smartest guy I know never graduated high school. Im sure not impressed by what I see here folks, sorry

[wa9cwx]

EVERY 'group' has its' fringe element. Right now , for us, it is K1MAN.

The whole purpose of a fringe element is to allow us to have a mirror on the rest of us.

It helps us as a 'group' to sharpen our focus, examine our beliefs, see other peoples reactions and 'hopefully'
re-define ourselves. It seems we are doing that rather well.

I really have enjoyed these posts. Most are VERY well thought out and nicely civil!

My only other input is from something I learned MANY years ago in Chicago when there was a 'jammer' on a local popular repeater. AS HARD AS IT WAS, everyone IGNORED this very troublesome guy....COMPLETELY....and he eventually withered on the vine and dissapeared.

I really think the fellow who said we are judged more by our reactions as a group, rather than by the actions of one unusual member, hit the nail on the head.
(...so to speak...)

WA9CWX

[k6pme]

Well, since the FCC doesn't seem to want to do anything about flagrant violations of the law maybe the ham community can.

Baxter seems to want to file a lawsuit against anyone that disagree's with him why not just give right back to him?

Why not organize and file a lawsuit in Court against him. I'm not an Atty. but it should be possible. Perhaps it would get the FCC moving to do something and it wouldn't have to be finished out.

[VY1SK]

One would think that an Amateur Radio operation as far away would be immune to the railings of this poor performer in our ranks. But, we too get the bitter edge of K1MAN's now blunted sword. Even in the Yukon Territory of Northwest Canada, we are occasionally blasted off the air by the rude interruptions from this 'lid' (note lower case)

VY1SK has been involved with the Auroral Bounce Experiments of 2004 from 69'n x 132'W, on the south shore of the Beaufort Sea. As we try to do some degree of science with propogation reporting systems, our radio service monitors (Spectrum Analyzers), which are of reasonable quality, are desensed by these outbursts from K1MAN.

Worse even when we are attempting to order food supplies or other logistics for our encampment.

We are not funded by any government or organised Amateur Club, but are a group of independent researchers, interested in HF propogation!

We could not have any animosity toward K1MAN, as we are thousands of miles away from his locale, but are angered by this blatant disregard for the traditions of Ham Radio, and general good operating practices. K1MAN's actions often cause us to make Satellite telephone calls at great cost rather than use our hobbies best abilities.

I am shamed by the outrageous conduct of this person.
We have had Amateur radio take a step backward. Right of free speech?

We have in Canada, a Charter of Rights and Freedoms, similat to the American 'Bill of Rights' but nowhere does it permit such cretinous activity.

As this planet evolves, we are now allowed to say the "f" word almost anywhere, say the other "'f'" word "Fire" in the wrong place and you will go to jail.
Are there any remedies in the USA?

I am interested in your comments.

R A C is the Canadian equivalent of the A R R L.

Steve Hemenway
VY1SK

[kb7rky]

All I can really say is "Thank God for QRM"...99% of the time I've listened to his garbage, it was buried under so much noise (aside from the jammers) that it was a blessing not to have heard it. The one time I did manage to listen (all of about 30 seconds), it was still 29 seconds too long, all of it repeated blathering about "the corrupt FCC" and "Riley's Brown Shirts". The man can't string together a single coherent sentence, let alone a full paragraph. If he hates Riley Hollingsworth so much, then why does he have a license? Apparently, he has to stoop to name-calling to get his childish point across. If he hates the government so much, there are other countries that will put up with his garbage.

Having an amateur radio license DOES NOT GIVE YOU the right to monopolize any frquency whatsoever, let alone 3. By filling out the FCC Forms and taking the tests, we have been granted a PRIVILEGE to use the radio spectrum, not THE RIGHT. We have AGREED TO ABIDE BY THE FCC'S LAWS REGARDING THE USE OF THE AMATEUR RADIO SPECTRUM, something which Mr. Baxter has conveniently forgotten about.

11 months is too long of a wait...I say we petition the FCC to have Mr. Baxter shut down immediately. I'd rather listen to WWV than this man's incessant goings-on about "the corrupt FCC".

Let's all do the one thing we should be doing...ignoring the man. He feeds off the negativity directed toward him from this board, and probably gets all atwitter when he hears the jammers trying to override his signal. Deny him his entertainment, folks. He's a button pusher, and knows exactly what to do to make the rest of us angry.

Doug, KB7RKY

[k7ov]

Quote[/b] (n9gqr @ Nov. 26 2004,16:02)]All I know is that K1MAN is legal and his QRMers are not even though they might think different.
Hi,

You need to read the FCC letters of enforcement posted on the ARRL. According the them, Baxter has broken the law on several occations. If he continues to break the law, I hope they throw the book at him.

When YOU post opinions, it would be a good thing to have your facts strait so that you don't look like an idiot. Does he have a right to his own opinion and to voice it? Yes! Does he have the right to trample others rights? Absolutely not!

But, he makes that choice to break the law and it will be him that will pay for it. The world has had many marters, if he feels like being one, then so be it. But, he does not have the right to post his drivel on a private website if the owner of that site objects. Case closed. If you want to give him that right, then you should buy this site and then you will have the right to do anything you want on it. Until then, the owner of this site has the absolute right to edit it as he sees fit. If you don't like it, go away, or start your own website. It is that simple. The owners of this site are under no obligation at all to provide him a forum for his noise. If he wants a web presence then he can setup his own site, or you can pay the money to buy a domain name and pay for the hosting of the site for him, if you think he has that right.

Go and be better.

73,

Mike K7OV

[k7ltf]

Sounds like K1MAN, wants to be like another Tom Leykis. Not in the sense of shocking people over the ham radio medium, but to prove that he is right, and he is the only one that is correct He thrives on HIS inflated ego. Nevertheless the person he is addressing is a man or a woman.

I feel that he does not want to lose an argument - He does not want to fail, hummmm isn't that how we learn in life is by failing? .... And lastly I think he wants to be perfect! huuhhhh ...... I don't think he will get on any commercial talk show soon.

It's sad that he does not want to be a respected member of the ham community, but i guess that what he seeks, attention and more he gets , the prouder he feels about himself.

He doesn't care about the FCC , ARRL etc, humm without either there might not be an amateur service for us to use??

I am not sure that even the FCC with all the power - or lack of that they have can make a difference. - He can - or it seems that he can, just start back up at will doing his same old thing. - Unfortunately FCC regardless, I think our government has their agendas that are more pressing obviously clearly elsewhere.

73 Zach K7LTF

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif where appropreate

[WS2L]

Quote[/b] (KG6QQL @ Nov. 28 2004,11:23)]Why not organize and file a lawsuit in Court against him. I'm not an Atty. but it should be possible. Perhaps it would get the FCC moving to do something and it wouldn't have to be finished out.
It's called a "Class Action" Lawsuit, you need to find legal grounds to bring the suit against him and then get a bunch of people willing to sign there name to it.

[W9WHE]

YOU can help resolve the K1MAN problem.

EVERY time he brings his so-called "broadcast" up on top of an ongoing QSO, file a WRITTEN COMPLAINT with the FCC.


Then:

EVERY time he brings his so-called "broadcast" up on top of an ongoing QSO, file a WRITTEN COMPLAINT with the FCC.


Then:

EVERY time he brings his so-called "broadcast" up on top of an ongoing QSO, file a WRITTEN COMPLAINT with the FCC.


Get the picture?

[kc2kvz]

Hi all;
With freedom of speech comes responsibility. Sure, you can yell "movie" in a crowded firehouse, but you must be ready to deal with the consequenses of doing so.

73 de Charlie, KC2KVZ

[W0LC]

K1MAN has been around for some time, just as some of the clowns one hears on 20 and 75 meters. Some have been shut down and licenses pulled, etc.

It really depends just how serious the FCC is about doing something about this guy. Frankly, I just tune past him. What's the point?

As to the whining about his listing on QRZ.com, QRZ.com is a privately owned and operated website and like a repeater, they can restrict access to whomever without substantiating their position. Just as you can call CQ and choose not to answer a person responding and continue to call CQ.

Glen has issues. What they are who knows. The issue the Feds have been coming back at MAN is the control operator issue which is obvious, he is absent much of the time he is "broadcasting".

Frankly, I don't see the need for broadcasting bulletins by either MAN or W1AW with the advent of the internet. Most is easily available off the internet with just a few mouse clicks.

My advice? Ignore him, tune around him. Those that choose to sit there and jam him are no better and only creating a situation for themselves. Vigilante "justice" doesn't work.

Let the Feds work it, albeit slowly, but sometimes their wheels turn slowly but grind the issue in the end into dust. So be it.

[w5jon]

For the record, I was one of the stations on 3.890 communicating with the Boy Scouts, on October 16, 2004, when K1MAN destroyed the QSO for 15 stations, in 2 countries and about 70 Boy Scouts.

I chose to join the QSO after listening for 15 minutes, and was there for another 35 minutes before K1MAN wiped it out.

Although we tried to QSY, the QRM from K1MAN was so great that we could not hear each other to coordinate the QSY, so most stations just left in disgust.

I know that I was unaware, and I sure that I can safely say that the Boy Scouts were also unaware of the K1MAN "broadcast" schedule.

Given the logic of many of the previous posts, I guess it was our (the Boy Scouts and mine) fault the we did not scan the entire Internet and QRZ to ensure that a "broadcast" was going to start on THAT frequency almost an hour after the QSO started. Foolish me I did not realize K1MAN owns 3.890, 3.977, 14.275 and when he see fit also owns 3.975.

For my complaint to the FCC regarding that "malicious interference", I have been singled out on the K1MAN "broadcast" and Web site as ""Head of the "Lloyd Youth" W5JON"", for "The American Amateur N@zi Party ".

K1MAN further stated that it was my and the Boy Scouts fault as we should have "checked the K1MAN broadcast schedule".

All this having never met, or talked to K1MAN in my 45 years as a licensed operator.

And this is the person some want to reason with.

73,

John W5JON

[K3EKO]

Ham Radio will be better off once the FCC revokes, suspends or fails to renew the Amateur License of one Glenn Baxter, K1MAN.

[w2wp]

Glen who? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K6BBC]

The concept of suing K1MAN is totally laughable. What are you legal scholars thinking? You can’t sue someone for being annoying. Class action??? It’s just daft.

K6BBC

[w6em]

This is law (United States Code), from which Part 97 was written:

TITLE 47--TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS

CHAPTER 5--WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION

SUBCHAPTER III--SPECIAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO RADIO

Part I--General Provisions

Sec. 303. Powers and duties of Commission


(m)(1) Have authority to suspend the license of any operator upon proof sufficient to satisfy the Commission that the licensee--


(D) has transmitted superfluous radio communications or signals or communications containing profane or obscene words, language, or meaning, or has knowingly transmitted–

(1) false or deceptive signals or communications, #or


(E) has willfully or maliciously interfered with any other radio communications or signals; or




Sec. 308. Requirements for license


(b) Conditions

All applications for station licenses, or modifications or renewals thereof, shall set forth such facts as the Commission by regulation may prescribe as to the citizenship, character, and financial, technical, and other qualifications of the applicant to operate the station; the ownership and location of the proposed station and of the stations, if any, with which it is proposed to communicate; the frequencies and the power desired to be used; the hours of the day or other periods of time during which it is proposed to operate the station; the purposes for which the station is to be used; and such other information as it may require. The Commission, at any time after the filing of such original application and during the term of any such license, may require from an applicant or licensee further written statements of fact to enable it to determine whether such original application should be granted or denied or such license revoked. Such application and/or such statement of fact shall be signed by the applicant and/or licensee in any manner or form, including by electronic means, as the Commission may prescribe by regulation.


Lee
W6EM

[n9lya]

Quote[/b] (w6em @ Nov. 29 2004,19:44)]This is law (United States Code), from which Part 97 was written:

TITLE 47--TELEGRAPHS, TELEPHONES, AND RADIOTELEGRAPHS

CHAPTER 5--WIRE OR RADIO COMMUNICATION

SUBCHAPTER III--SPECIAL PROVISIONS RELATING TO RADIO

Part I--General Provisions

Sec. 303. Powers and duties of Commission


(m)(1) Have authority to suspend the license of any operator upon proof sufficient to satisfy the Commission that the licensee--


(D) has transmitted superfluous radio communications or signals or communications containing profane or obscene words, language, or meaning, or has knowingly transmitted–

(1) false or deceptive signals or communications, #or


(E) has willfully or maliciously interfered with any other radio communications or signals; or




Sec. 308. Requirements for license


(b) Conditions

All applications for station licenses, or modifications or renewals thereof, shall set forth such facts as the Commission by regulation may prescribe as to the citizenship, character, and financial, technical, and other qualifications of the applicant to operate the station; the ownership and location of the proposed station and of the stations, if any, with which it is proposed to communicate; the frequencies and the power desired to be used; the hours of the day or other periods of time during which it is proposed to operate the station; the purposes for which the station is to be used; and such other information as it may require. The Commission, at any time after the filing of such original application and during the term of any such license, may require from an applicant or licensee further written statements of fact to enable it to determine whether such original application should be granted or denied or such license revoked. Such application and/or such statement of fact shall be signed by the applicant and/or licensee in any manner or form, including by electronic means, as the Commission may prescribe by regulation.


Lee
W6EM
I am sure Baxter is no dummy, he may have alternate beliefs than most, He may be crazy.. I do not know him.. Other then by the rants of repeated statements on his Broadcasts... He probably has been recording and monitoring the freqs he has been using and attempting to ID the Stations QRMMIMGH him..
I mean really guys.. If you want to stop someone from doing something illegal.. you do not join in by illegally txing on top of him.. With Noise sounds and roger beeps.. And, Some of the verbiage I have personally recorded on 14.275 seems they are more obnoxious then even Glenn, Imagine that?? #makes one think before the FCC can go after Glenns license they must go after a whole slew of others..


I for one would think for the FCC to go after JUST Glenn.. Then they will be wide open for a discrimination lawsuit.



My 2 cents..

73 Jerry n9lya

[W9WHE]

W5JON:

Ignore the baxter stooges. You were in the right and baxter in the wrong. You can take comfort in the knowlege that baxter's license will not be renewed without a fight.

EVERY time baxter brings his silly "program" up on top of a QSO, the hams involved need file a written complaint with the FCC. Document the facts. Leave out the opinions.

W9WHE

[n9lya]

Quote[/b] (W9WHE @ Nov. 30 2004,07:46)]W5JON:

Ignore the baxter stooges. You were in the right and baxter in the wrong. You can take comfort in the knowlege that baxter's license will not be renewed without a fight.

EVERY time baxter brings his silly "program" up on top of a #QSO, the hams involved need file a written complaint with the FCC. Document the facts. Leave out the opinions.

W9WHE
Exactly... No erronious info, no on air coments etc... Just the facts..

73

[aa1mn]

K5XS,

If you don't like what this guy has to say why are you listening?


Chuck, AA1MN

[K4JF]

Quote[/b] (W9WHE @ Nov. 30 2004,07:46)]W5JON:

Ignore the baxter stooges. You were in the right and baxter in the wrong. You can take comfort in the knowlege that baxter's license will not be renewed without a fight.

EVERY time baxter brings his silly "program" up on top of a #QSO, the hams involved need file a written complaint with the FCC. Document the facts. Leave out the opinions.

W9WHE
Exactly. I, for one, will not jam him or anybody else.

However, I WILL operate anywhere on any band within the privileges conferred by my license, if that frequency is clear when I start. No one owns a frequency. (And, contrary to Baxter, they are privileges, not rights.)

Baxter's claiming that the Scouts interfered with HIM, is one of the more ridiculous of his rants. Shame on him. Scouts need all the support they can get these days, with even the DoD against them.

[W9WHE]

"The concept of suing K1MAN is totally laughable. #What are you legal scholars thinking? #You can’t sue someone for being annoying. #Class action??? #It’s just daft".


I agree.
Liberals think they can sue everyone, everywhere for everything they don't like. Give it a rest allready! Soon liberals will be filing class-action suits against conservatives for inducing PESD (post-election stress disorder). Come on allready! If you have a legitimate beef with the guy's on-the-air conduct, just file your factually based complaints with the FCC.

W9WHE

[n7rvn]

I know that this sounds like a silly question but..... for instance, if a pair of stations were to have a QSO on 1.855, 3.99, 7.29, 14.29, 18.16, and 28.59 just before the ARRL began their scheduled transmissions, what do you think would happen?

Would they wait until the qso ended before beginning their broadcast? Would other who were hoping to be able to listen in pounce on the stations in the QSO or tell them to QSY elsewhere?

IF this were to become a scheduled kind of thing for the 2 stations, what would the ARRL (or other hams) do? Would there be a risk to the licenses of the 2 operators who have every right to be on the air as the station was when trying to have a conversation with the Boy Scouts?

Though I anhor Mr. Baxter's choices for how to make his point, I am more frustrated that he has opted to not take the time to listen BEFORE transmitting his broadcasts. He has no right to step on other transmissions. He is expressly prohibited from this by Federal Code under part 97 regulations.

Understandably, he is also fearful that his published schedule (indicated that he plans to operate on a specific frequency and at a specific time) will garner intentional interference much as I described above.

Though it may be difficult to do, DONT violate the law yourself! Document what he is doing and report it to the FCC. Be consistent and persistant. Make the folks at the FCC be the bad guys armed with thousands and thousands of complaints from others in the ham community.

It seems that he is slowly getting the cross hairs aimed upon him. Though the delay in actually pulling the trigger and removing his ability to operate under the umbrella his Amateur license has afforded him is frustrating, it is surely coming.

Be patient, be happy! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[wa9cwx]

Hello,

Very good question about the ARRL...

I am also a bit curious about the character who sends 'CW practice' regularly on 7030.

It is ALWAYS a series of Bible quotes.

I doubt that HE listens before transmitting.

Maybe we should set aside one frequency for all of these people... Then they can all not listen to each other.

Frank

[w6em]

Instead of preparing a Petition for Rulemaking to establish bandwidth assignments (which has already been considered and tossed out by the FCC), the ARRL should prepare a PR to limit broadcasting by amateurs and those representing amateur organizations.


Lee
W6EM

[W9WHE]

HOW IS THIS FOR A STRATEGY:

INUNDATE FCC WITH PETITIONS TO LIMIT ONE-WAY BROADCASTING:

1) BY AGGRAGATE AMOUNT OF TIME IN 24 HOURS (ie, no more than 30 min total)
2) BY FREQUENCY (LIMITED TO ABOVE 30 Mhz.)
3) BY LIMITING BROADCASTS TO FACTS (NOT OPINIONS)
4) PROHIBITING OVERT SELF PROMOTION

[w5jon]

"So to all the wise men that suggest "just turn the knob", I hope you have posted in your shack the times that the K1MAN "broadcast" is "scheduled" to operate on 3.890, 3.977, 3.885, 3.975 and 14.275, so you can "just turn the knob". Because in the past two weeks alone the "broadcast" has been on ALL these frequencies."

On each of these frequencies are (were) nets, that have existed for years prior to K1MAN "selecting" that frequency. So I guess your suggestion to them is to just move your net if K1MAN decides he wants that frequency. How about you explain that to the "Net Control" operator.

So you better keep checking K1MAN "broadcast schedule" (it has changed five times in the past two weeks) and posting it in your shack. I would not want you to be at "fault" like many of us and be using a "K1MAN frequency" when he starts up his "broadcast" on top of your QSO or Net.

73,

John W5JON

[wa6itf]

As stated by another poster, the matter of banning or limiting QST type broadcasts on the Amateur Radio bands was considered in a Notice of Rule Making - RM-8626 -- about 8 years ago. It had been filed by Fred Maia, W5YI -- then owner of the now defunct W5YI VEC and publisher of the W5YI Report ham radio newsletter.

Fred's rules change request would have limited "bulletins" to 50 MHz and above -- primerally to FM repeaters wherein the repeaters sponsor or sponsoring group indicated that it wanted such a message to be played to the user base. (Coincidentally, the very audience that we at Amateur Radio Newsline have successfully targeted our news bulletins toward since 1976.)

Obviously, we followed this one very closely. As expected, the ARRL did file in opposition -- taking the view that Maia -- who was in those days a business rival to the ARRL -- was trying to take away the ARRL's voice to its constituance. We at ARNewsline also filed in opposition, but based on constitutional issues of "right to know vs. need to know." But so did well over 450 others. I think it was close onto 500 -- of which lress than a handfull supported the idea of such limits. (I do not recall seeing any filing from K1MAN and/or any of his corporate entaties like IARN, AARA, etc..

Here is the story we ran when the FCC denied the W5YI request:


<< RM-8626 - RIP (03-06-1996)

The FCC has said "no" to a rules change request
that would have placed severe limitations on
stations issuing ham radio news and information
bulletins. The agency did so by dismissing a
rules change request filed last year by ham radio
publisher Fred Maia, W5YI.

The Maia petition, which had been assigned
rule making number RM-8626, claimed that the high
frequency ham radio bands were being overrun by
bulletin stations. That these bulletin operations
were unilaterally setting up shop and causing
interference to already established ham radio
communications.

But RM-8626 was strongly opposed by the
American Radio Relay League. The ARRL viewed it
as nothing more than an attempt by Maia to kill
off the W1AW Official Bulletin Station at League
Headquarters.

"Many of those people thought that I was
opposed the W1AW bulletins. Nothing could be
further from the truth. I've been a ham and a
member of the ARRL for 40 years and a very staunch
supported of what they do," said Fred Maia, W5YI

The petition also pulled strong opposition
from other sectors of the ham radio community that
are involved in news dissemination. With little
in the way of support the FCC decided to dismiss
the Maia petition rather than let it go forward
to a rule making notice. The FCC has also made
clear that it will not revisit the issue again
anytime in the foreseeable future.>>

Since the denial of RM-8626, there have been three or four similar requests to the FCC to limit otr curtail completely news ands information bulletins. The most recent about a year and a half ago. And each time they have been dismissed -- either without comment or referencing the dismissal of RM-8626.

My take on this is that the FCC does not want to even hear a proposal like this again and will -- likely -- either dismiss it like it has all others oe "pigeon hole" it where it will simply be forgotten. Rather, they want to deal with these issues on a case by case basis so as not to set any all encompassing precedent that locks them or the nations ham radio community into regulations that are non flexable. And under the current deregulator climate that is pervasive throughout the structure of the FCC, this is not a good time to ask for "re-regulation." This FCC is not going to buy it.

And if I may add a personal opinion: I truly believe that voice bulletins really have no place on our very crowded HF bands. That is the reasons -- going back to 1976 when Jim Hendershot WA6VQP and I started the Westlink Radio Netework which was the forerunner of ARNewsline -- that we specificlly crafted them for retransmission on VHF and UHF repeaters and FM simplex nets where-in the hams inhabiting those entaties indicated as a unit that the newscast wouuld be welcome. It just made more sense to us to do it that way as opposed plopping down in the middle of a crowded HF phone subband where they might cause more QRM that derive a listenership.

We added Internet audio 8 years ago -- finally setteling on MP3 format 4 years ago.

Between the telephone and Internet feeds -- that both we and ARRL Audio News do -- I cannot see any real benefit to ham radio in having voice bulletins cluttering the HF bands. As I sit here on the West Coast of the USA it is sometimes hard to comprehend why all the fuss over K1MAN and/or W1AW, when neither have a signal that can be heard over the din of stations on 20 barreling in from the Pacific Rim and local nets on 75 meters that are oblivious to the very exostance of either.

I believe that there is a time and a place for legitimate ham radio bulletins, but only where they are "invited." They serve no purpose if they just add to the QRM of a given band or frequency.

I am not in favor of legislating them off the HF bands. On the other hand, I do think it is time for the ham community as a whole to reconsider the utility of such bropadcasts on HF and curtail them on a voluntary basis.

In assessing the situation, I ask which any of you would rather listen to: A noisy thin voice on 20 meters SSB covered by snaps-crackles - pops and legitimate transmissions from hams in other parts of the world? Or would you like the clean, clear sound coming from your FM transceiver or the speakers connecting to your computer?

Simply, the paradign has shifted away from any need for HF voice bulletins. It began to move away in 1976 and was accellerated in the ealy 1990's with the advent of a computer audio streaming program called True Speech -- and a bit later by RealAudio and MP3. Except to reach the remotest of remote barely inhabited areas of the world, (and how many of those few hams have interest in domestic US ham rafio issues???) -- the need for HF bulletins is gone and I sincerely doubt if it will ever return.

As the great newsman George Putnam has often said: "Thats one reporters opinion. I welcome yours."

de
Bill Pasternak, WA6ITF

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (wa6itf @ Dec. 01 2004,13:10)]I am not in favor of legislating them off the HF bands. #On the other hand, I do think it is time for the ham community as a whole to reconsider the utility of such bropadcasts on HF and curtail them on a voluntary basis. #
Hello Bill. #Thanks for the posting and insight into the problem.

Sorry, but I just don't see *how* voluntary curtailment of such broadcasts would work, realistically, when the perpetrator isn't responsive. #That translates into no curtailment at all. #Period.

Although, all's not lost. #After all, there are regulations already in place that deal with intentional interference, pecuniary interests, false or deceptive transmissions and advertisements in the amateur radio service. #These apply to all amateur transmissions.

They could use a little more expeditious enforcement and/or prosecution in this instance.

73,

Lee
W6EM

[KD7YVV]

When I took my Technician exam, I used the Now You're Talking book from the ARRL.
In it, it specifically states that all amateurs are equal when it comes to frequency usage and
that no amateur is above another. It also states that in some bands, amateurs use the band
in a secondary mode, so if the amateur causes interference to the primary user, the amateur
must cease transmitting. Thirdly, the book states that amateur radio must not be used to
conduct any business where a pecuniary interest is held.
I've not had the pleasure yet of hearing this K1MAN, and from what I've seen on this board,
I may not want to. The Constitution is a very remarkable document.
For instance, I have the right to go into Jack's house, stand on their table, sing the
Star Spangled Banner, and then kill them afterwards.
That is my right. My right ends when it interferes with Jack's rights.
The right to privacy, the right to peace and quiet, and the right to live.
Basically, you have the right to do anything you want so long as it doesn't interfere or impede
the rights of another. Now, I may still be a Technician class licensee, but it sounds like this
person is doing what he wants with no regards to others.
The Now You're Talking book also states, it is easier for 2 people having a QSO to change
frequencies than to move a whole net. If the guy is such an annoyance, let the FCC deal with it.
The guy will dig his own grave. He may operate and disregard FCC rules and broadcast with
a pecuniary interest in mind, but when the FCC decides it has a pecuniary interest in K1MAN,
I've got a feeling it will be quite a large sum.
Grandfather always said, it takes two to argue. Twist the dial.
Our names and addresses appear on this and other callsign database sites, it just seems to me
that if this person is really unstable, it would be a good idea to avoid him anyway.
Back in the CB days, if someone was an annoyance, they'd get their coax pinned, causing
the radio finals to blow. Now I don't advocate trespassing onto property you don't own, or to
get into any sort of physical confrontation with the guy, but the best way to get rid of him
is to ignore him. People of his kind crave attention. Give him none, and he has nothing.
Calling his 800 number provides him with the telephone number you called him from.
Naturally, if thousands of people called his 800 number, he would have to pay a very large
phonebill. "Now what was the number of that toll free 24 hour sex line I saw on the internet?"
<Wicked Evil Grin> Hehehehe....Sorry, momentary flashback to hacker wars of the 80's......
Anyway, all kidding aside, anyone jamming him or calling him gives him ammunition and
justification in his eyes to keep doing what he's doing. Once his ammunition is gone, what
has he left to fight with?

--KD7YVV, Kirkland ARES #154

[wx4qn]

Quote[/b] (wa6itf @ Dec. 01 2004,13:10)]As I sit here on the West Coast of the USA it is sometimes hard to comprehend why all the fuss over K1MAN and/or W1AW, when neither have a signal that can be heard over the din of stations on 20 barreling in from the Pacific Rim and local nets on 75 meters that are oblivious to the very exostance of either.

Just be thankful that you haven't been subjected to the following due to the almost constant K1MAN broadcasts on 20 and 75 meters:

Being qrm'd by a taped broadcast that starts up on a #frequency you are using in a legitimate manner before the broadcast qrm's you off .

Receiving threats via email of legal action from the publisher of said broadcasts if you 'interfere' with his transmissions by being on a frequency engaged in conversation with other hams when his Radio Shack Timers begin the K1MAN excessively wide and distorted broadcasts at times contrary to his 'published schedule' on top of you.

Being threatened with the filing of Felony Complaint Affidavits to state Attorney General offices by the publisher of said broadcasts.

Being accused on the internet newsgroups by K1MAN supporters of being a qrm'r because you fail to cower and acquiesce to Glenn Baxter's demands that you must relinquish a frequency you are using so he can qrm the ham bands with his obscene broadcast interspersed with interviews from known racists and amateur radio miscreants.

It's very possible a West Coast version of K1MAN will begin a 'Talk Show and bulletin service" in your backyard so you can comprehend what all the fuss is about.

BTW, we get blasted on 20 meters from thousands of stations in Europe and also have the nets on 75 who are either oblivious to one another or just don't care... a piece of cake compared to K1MAN.

Bob #WD4AWO

[2e0aiv]

First to make the point - have i never heard K1Man's broadcasts - but i have a thought that perhaps all the fuss and bother he is causing is what he gets off on - perhaps if nobody listens or responds to him - he will loose that which he seeks - your responses and to be noticed - by all means write to the licence authorities and complain - the more that do will force them to take action - however, all our radios have on/off switchs and tuning dials to enable us to go else where - As i said, just a thought for you to consider

[K6BBC]

I think a lot of hams would just fold up the tent if they didn't have K1MAN to kick around. What a hobby.

K6BBC

[wb4znh]

Unfortunately, I fear that K1MAN is satisfying the Part 97 requirements to broadcast in the Amateur bands. If I remember correctly, the broadcasts must be of a general interest. As long as people continue to aid him by calling in, then I fear he will be with us.
I have been subjected to intentional interference off and on over the years and the best approach to it is to ignore it. That is what K1MAN is doing with those trying to interfere with him. We must do likewise with him. Intentional interference to him is not his responsibility.
Furthermore, if we ignore him, then he will go away. The problem is that people won't ignore him. I think sending him emails is the wrong approach as well.
What K1MAN is doing is exactly what the ARRL has done for years. The only difference is the different motives. The ARRL has the best interest of Amateur Radio in mind while K1MAN is making a point. Sad that anyone is in that frame of mind.
Your radio has a knob usually right in the middle, if you give that a twist K1MAN goes away and new nicer people come up. Give it a try. 73, Carl

[W9WHE]

"Furthermore, if we ignore him [k1man] then he will go away"


Doubtful.
Wayyyy too much ego. I look forward to the non-renewal of his license. Let him try to convince a Federal Judge that he should be permitted to continue his antics. I have a feeling that a Federal Judge will not be so receptive. Only time will tell. Fortunately, his renewall date is not far off!

W9WHE

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (wb4znh @ Dec. 02 2004,09:05)]Unfortunately, I fear that K1MAN is satisfying the Part 97 requirements to broadcast in the Amateur bands. If I remember correctly, the broadcasts must be of a general interest.
According to Part 97, "broadcasts" on the amateur bands are specifically NOT to be of interest to the general public, but solely of interest to licensed radio amateurs. Off-topic discussions of policical and social issues, and fundraising efforts, are prohibited. Even non-amateur radio related topics are questionable.

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (wb4znh @ Dec. 02 2004,09:05)]What K1MAN is doing is exactly what the ARRL has done for years. #The only difference is the different motives. #
Carl: #With all due respect..... #So, the ARRL has broadcast the kind of content that K1MAN has? #Wow. #I guess I missed something.

73,

Lee
W6EM
Bradenton, FL.

[kc8aon]

I think its time the FCC outlaws ALL broadcast from amateur radio including the ones from W1AW ! We have other means of gathering amateur radio news without it cluttering up the bands !

73
Rick
KC8AON:0

[k5xs]

Thanks for all the suggestions and comments.

It is clear to me that the only way anything will change is to formalize our complaints.

I therefore wrote the following complaint today and emailed it to FCCHAM@fcc.gov:

Bernard K. Skoch
21142 Kirksey Road
Elkins, Arkansas 72727
December 3, 2004

FCC Enforcement
1270 Fairfield Road
Gettysburg, PA 17325.

Dear Sirs:

This is a formal complaint regarding the operation of amateur radio station K1MAN. Its continued operation as a bulletin station is in my view in violation of the provisions of Section 97.111 (b)(6) as a “Transmission necessary to disseminate information bulletins."

As I listen now (1842UTC, 3 Dec 2004) on 14.275 MHz, I am hearing for the third time in the past week a telephone "interview" which does nothing to disseminate "information" and instead is serving as a platform for editorial views regarding the corruption of the FCC, the corruption of the ARRL, and the supposed idiocy of FCC Special Counsel Riley Hollingsworth. This same broadcast is aired over and over and over again on amateur frequency 14.275 MHz, and serves no useful purpose that I can discern.

The broadcasts violate the spirit and intent of Part 97 by inappropriately using the amateur service for the broadcast of matters that while loosely associated with the regulation and enforcement of amateur radio as a service, are completely unrelated to amateur radio operations. Further, the broadcasts direct listeners to a commercial web site http://www.k1man.com/, in my view using the amateur radio service for the promotion of commercial interests.

I request that enforcement action be taken to terminate the broadcasts.




Bernard K. Skoch


I received a nice email reply from Riley Hollingsworth asking that I sign the complaint and either:

1) Fax it to 717-338-2574,
2) Scan and e mail it to FCCHAM@fcc.gov, or
3) Mail it to Riley Hollingsorth at FCC Enforcement,1270 Fairfield Road, Gettysburg, PA 17325

I have signed and fax'd my complaint.

If you are as bothered by continued broadcasting on 20 meters, you may want to do likewise.

73,

Bernie Skoch
K5XS

[K6BBC]

COME ON, WHAT IS ALL THE FUSS?

What is wrong with you people?

K6BBC

[w5jon]

To k6bbc

Okay we get the picture, it is no big deal to you. You need not remind us constantly of that, you have made your point.

But to some of us that:

1. Have had our Nets that have been on a frequency for years, to suddenly be QRM'ed, when K1MAN decided he now want's to "broadcast" on the frequency, it is a "big deal".

2. That have been labeled a "N@zi" on the K1MAN Web Page, because they posted a comment on QRZ, it is a "big deal".

3. That have been labeled a "N@zi Brown Shirt, Youth Leader for the Boy Scouts" on the K1MAN Web Page, because they sent a complaint to the FCC, it is a "big deal".

4. That have to guess which, and how many of the five frequencies, K1MAN uses on 75 Meters, will be wiped out today, it is a "big deal".

5. The K1MAN "broadcast" takes up a third of the, long established, AM portion of 75 Meters, it is a "big deal".

6. That try and abide by the FCC rules, his 15 years worth of violations is a "big deal"

7. To have the whole world hear his "broadcast" rantings, totally unrelated to Amateur Radio, on 14.275 for 22 hour a day, it is a "big deal"

So please, please stop reminding me, to you it is not a "big deal". Because to a lot of us it is a "big deal".

John W5JON

[K1XRB]

I had the opportunity to listen to K1MAN's infomercial via the link at lamonica.com,last night. What on earth does "resume writing" and "job searching" or Baxter Associates have anything to do with Amateur Radio? NOTHING, not a thing! This program from K1MAN was obviously a recording off Baxter's answering machine, because half way through the broadcast, there was an automated call from AT&T asking the user if he was satisfied with his new phone service! (He did reply with the number "1".) He obviously records EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING! I wonder if the person on the recording knows that he was being broadcast? If NOT, well....you know where that can get you?

This kind of programming from K1MAN is jamming, plain and simple. It simply his way to keep a frequency active so nobody else can use it. I have my own thoughts about BPL and the way it is being addressed, et.al.. You go through the normal channels. But this "AARA" bit seems to be one man's diatribe against "the powers that be", namely Riley Holllingsworth. . Sorry, I cannot support someone (K1MAN) like that. This guy is a detriment to Amateur Radio and all that it stands for. To me, his broadcasts are nothing but self-gratification for an over-inflated ego.

It's high time for the FCC to do something about it. The ARRL broadcasts (via W1AW) are quick and to the point. On the other hand, Baxter's broadcasts are long, do not follow a regular schedule and can be interrupted in mid sentence with the carrier dumped. It tells me that the station is probably not manned during all broadcasts. (Can you say "a timer"?).

Riley, IT'S TIME!


Peter Q. George (K1XRB)

[wa4nun]

Hitler suffered from a very unusual disorder when giving speeches in his rise to power. He was rarely seen without the use of a podium when giving speeches. Doctors were not able to find a way to stop the problem that he had.

Baxter most likely has the same disorder.

[ai4fu]

Quote[/b] (n9gqr @ Nov. 26 2004,16:02)]I may not agree with him but I believe K1MAN has the right to broadcast bulletins the same as W1AW. I do listen and I enjoy the news part of the bulletins but the callers that call in is when I sometimes have to tune away. #I listen to some of the people who think that K1MAN is doing something illegal and just try and talk right over his broadcast. #I've heard them talking and waiting for his broadcast to start so they then encourage the others to write to Riley and complain of how K1MAN started broadcasting right over top of them. QRZ was childish by taking his call out of their database and in turn supporting the ones that do the qrming of his station. #QRZ should of just stayed out of the fray. #All I know is that K1MAN is legal and his QRMers are not even though they might think different. #The only way to solve the problem is for the FCC to mandate bulletins to broadcast only certain times of the day...Good Idea!
So very sad that there are hams willing to "Jump on the Bandwagon" and rush to the defense of someone who cries "persecution". #It is obvious that some do not know the rules of the hobby they are engaged in and hope, as does Glenn, that the masses will be swayed by persistence, litigation, and sheer rhetoric. #I am sure that by now, even Glenn believes his own lies and justifications as "Gospel Truth". #In my admittedly limited experience, it is usually the ones that cry out "persecution, Nazi's, brown shirts, etc. ad (endless) nauseum" that are breaking the laws the most and/ or worst. #I say this because my personal favorite nickname for the OH state troopers is the people's republic of oh storm truppen, for their zealous and persistent enforcement of the "split" speed limit between cars and larger vehicles. #But they are NOT wrong for doing their job. #I, however hard this is to say, AM wrong, for breaking said "split" speed limit laws. #Just an example, so that no one claims I don't know what I am talking about (I don't). #73 de AI4FU

[ai4fu]

Quote[/b] (W9WHE @ Dec. 02 2004,15:02)]"Furthermore, if we ignore him [k1man] then he will go away"


Doubtful. #
Wayyyy too much ego. I look forward to the non-renewal of his license. Let him try to convince a Federal Judge that he should be permitted to continue his antics. I have a feeling that a Federal Judge will not be so receptive. Only time will tell. Fortunately, his renewall date is not far off!

W9WHE
What exactly is it that makes everyone think that K1MAN will just "go away" once his license is "not renewed"? If he is blatantly willing to violate the rules with his incessant broadcasting, unauthorized automatic control point, permitting use of foul language via his answering/ recording devices, slandering various hams, and making the rest of us look like fools because we cannot find a way to get him off the air, then in what fantasy land are you in that is allowing you to think that Glenn Baxter will simply stop when his license is not renewed?

It seems to me that while the FCC has the authority, and the means necessary to get him off the air, they are leery of doing so because of Glenn's "litigious" nature. Well, whoopty yeah rah. Fine, let him be litigious. But don't just sit there and "hope he just goes away"

My personal take on it, is that if nothing useful is done about this by the time K1MAN's license does expire and he does continue to transmit (I opine he will), that the amateur community should file suit against the FCC to force them to take action. Don't think it would work? Guess again. A relatively small group of people got together and sued the US DOT to force them to change the Hours of Service regulations for over 9 million ( yep 9,000,000) truck drivers, and they folded without so much as a whimper.

My opinions may seem extreme to some but I am willing to bet the majority of the amateurs in the country who have an opinion are just as sick of K1MAN getting the attention he craves but the lack of any effective action against his station license, that I would not be alone in my thoughts. Personally I would be glad to contribute to the "hire Yale Galanter to force the FCC to get rid of Baxter" fund but I cannot seem to find their website and PayPal claims they don't know who I am talking about...........

[WS2L]

This is a big problem these days, all someone has to say is Lawer or Lawsuit and everyone goes running. If Mr. Baxter continues his on air antics after his license is not renewed he should be incarcerated to the maximum extent of the law for each and every violation.

[N2IXX]

I agree, don't jam, make comments, call his "Talk-Show" but when you do hear something wrong, record it if possible and/or file a complaint. If the FCC gets flooded with complaints everytime he does something wrong, he will go away. I for one have logged complaints with the FCC against k1man.

Ken

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (WS2L @ Dec. 05 2004,12:47)]This is a big problem these days, all someone has to say is Lawer or Lawsuit and everyone goes running. If Mr. Baxter continues his on air antics after his license is not renewed he should be incarcerated to the maximum extent of the law for each and every violation.
Not quite so. #Let's not forget that the United States Attorney General has a HUGE staff, all paid for by us. #Inexhaustable legal resources with which to pursue alleged violations of federal law and derivative regulations.

Such threats may deter individuals, but not the US Government. #In fact, such behavior, with an underlying purpose of intimidation or attempts to influence a government agency's investigation may amount to Obstruction of Justice, per 18USC1505. #And, I'm not an attorney....

"Whoever, with intent to avoid, evade, prevent, or obstruct
compliance, in whole or in part, with any civil investigative demand
duly and properly made under the Antitrust Civil Process Act, willfully
withholds, misrepresents, removes from any place, conceals, covers up,
destroys, mutilates, alters, or by other means falsifies any documentary
material, answers to written interrogatories, or oral testimony, which
is the subject of such demand; or attempts to do so or solicits another
to do so; or
# #Whoever corruptly, or by threats or force, or by any threatening
letter or communication influences, obstructs, or impedes or endeavors
to influence, obstruct, or impede the due and proper administration of
the law under which any pending proceeding is being had before any
department or agency of the United States, or the due and proper
exercise of the power of inquiry under which any inquiry or
investigation is being had by either House, or any committee of either
House or any joint committee of the Congress--
# #Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five
years, or both.



Lee
W6EM

[W9WHE]

"What exactly is it that makes everyone think that K1MAN will just "go away" once his license is "not renewed"?

Last time I checked, penalties for WILLFUL violation of the Telecommunications Act included:

1) Fines of up to $10,000 PER OFFENSE; and/or
2) Prison sentence of up to 10 years; PLUS
3) confiscation of illegally used equipment.


I doubt he would operate without a valid license. He is not foolish enough, after thumbing his nose at the FCC, to operate without a license. But if he did operate without a license, I would favor an all expense paid trip to Club Fed!

W9WHE

[W9WHE]

W1MAN (Richard Biggs) writes:

Q: "Why is everyone being so mean to Glenn"
A: Because Glen repeatedly interrupts ongoing QSOs.


S: "He is a really a very nice and kind person, albeit somewhat eccentric".
R: Nice people don't repeatedly interrupt ongoing QSOs


S: Mr. Baxter is a Professional Engineer with vast experience and ample recognition in his field.
R: And your point?


S: The fact that he chooses to share his knowledge and wit with the international ham radio comunity is a blessing for all.
R: A curse, if you ask most hams


S: He does this within the framework of what is allowed by the FCC and IARU regulations.
R: Most disagree. Soon we will have a court ruling. His license may hang in the ballance.


S: Glenn transmissions are a beacon of hope.
R: For whom? Egomainiacs? Narcisists? Rouges?

W9WHE

[KC0LOE]

After reading all this stuff about K1MAN, I decided to spin the VFO down and see what this stuff is all about. After listening for about a 1/2 hour I have come up with my own opinion.

I dont support K1MAN, but I have heard a couple of thinks that made me dishartened. Radio amateurs are just as bad as he his. After hearing your an a*s hole and other obsenties breaking in over his transmissions. You're breaking the same rules you are saying he breaks. The phone calls he plays over the air, have a mixed of people telling him they dont want him on the air in a professional way, and other that call up and say obsene things and hang up.

Just don't call the man or break in over his transmissions. This just fuels the fire and makes things worse in the end. IF you do call him tell him you don't want him on the air in a professional way. Don't be calling people names, it just makes things worst.

[K4JF]

Quote[/b] (KC0LOE @ Dec. 06 2004,12:24)]Just don't call the man or break in over his transmissions. #This just fuels the fire and makes things worse in the end. #
Agreed. BUT.... if he comes in on top of your ongoing QSO, you are under no obligation whatsoever to leave, move frequency, or stop talking. Whoever was there first has the right to the frequency. The law is quite clear on that point.

[KC0LOE]

Very true, I have no idea who was using the frequency first.

[WS2L]

The more that people give this guy attention he will continue to do what he is doing. Like a child if you ignore his tantrum eventually he will go away because he is no longer getting the attention he is looking for.

[wa9cwx]

Interesting comments.....been away from this thread for awhile. But I REALLY would like to repeat what should be obvious to anyone who has paid any attention in life:

You GET what you concentrate on.

Find something you LIKE about ham radio and focus your energy on THAT!

Peace does not come to people who HATE war, it comes to people who LOVE peace, and act accordingly.

Sounds VERY naive, but it is a basic law of life. It is also NOT very easy, it is not sticking your head in the sand.
Rather it is a deliberate, personal choice to focus your energy on something constructive, not adding fuel to something you feel is 'negative' or 'evil'.
It also calls for a little faith in a higher level of orginization or power in life.

I honestly feel the best course of action is to do something POSITIVE and FUN, while de-focusing on the things you do not like.
At the VERY least, do not 'join in' ie: jamming or swearing at him.
If you feel some well focused hostility is REALLY what you enjoy, at least make it legal and keep it off the bands, go write your complaint to the FCC.
I have on a few occasions listened to this guy, I made a note of the frequency the first time I heard him so I could go back later. The second time I thought it was interesting, but rambling. I NEVER heard foul language or anything illegal. I never realised all the hassel and bother until I read this thread. Yet I spend 10/15 hours a week on the air, listening, tuning around, rag chewing and chasing DX, and a little contesting. I LOVE my hobby, my guess is most of you do too.
Have some faith that your actions and focus have POWER, that like creates like, and that extended hostility or grudges, or resentment, produce the SAME kind of enviornment.

I do understand that this may seem utterly foolish to people who believe that Newton discovered the final laws of physics, and that the brain is just a complex computer, but at the very least, try a little compassion to temper your hostility and see if doesn't make the holidays more fun!

73,
Frank http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[VY1SK]

Why won't the FCC do this to K1MAN???

FCC Proposes to Fine Missouri Amateur for Failing to Reply to Correspondence.

NEWINGTON, CT, Dec 7, 2004--The FCC has proposed a $4000 fine for Paul D. Westcott, KC0OAB, of Purdy, Missouri, for allegedly failing to respond to Commission correspondence. The FCC says it has received "numerous complaints" alleging that KC0OAB has been transmitting CW on 40 meters 24/7. Complainants assert the transmissions constitute broadcasting. The FCC contends they interfere with other amateur communications "due to an apparent lack of station control." Westcott responded to an initial FCC Enforcement Bureau inquiry last June but not to a subsequent "Warning Notice and Request for Further Information" in early September.

"To this date, Mr. Westcott has not filed the required response," said the Notice of Apparent Liability (NAL) issued November 30 by FCC Kansas City District Director Robert C. McKinney. "A licensee cannot ignore the directives in a Bureau inquiry letter."

Hams in Texas and Nebraska were among those complaining about KC0OAB's constant CW transmissions on 7030 kHz. In June, FCC Special Counsel for Enforcement Riley Hollingsworth told ARRL that Westcott had assured him "some time ago" in an earlier informal conversation that the transmissions were for Morse code practice.

A June 21, 2004, letter from Hollingsworth requested information from Westcott regarding an attached complaint about the KC0OAB transmissions. In his response Westcott reiterated the Morse code practice claim.

The June FCC letter also asked Westcott when he had had begun the CW transmission and for evidence that the transmissions--reportedly consisting largely of biblical text--were actually being used for that purpose. Hollingsworth also wanted Westcott to address the complaint "as it related to allegations of religious broadcasting."

"Due to the crowded nature of the 40 meter band," Hollingsworth commented in the June 21 letter, "it is extremely inconsiderate to take up spectrum in that area for transmissions 24 hours a day purportedly for 'code practice.'" He requested that Westcott justify in detail how such transmissions adhered to the "good amateur practice" provision of Part 97, the Amateur Radio Service rules.

"We continue to receive complaints about interference to ongoing transmissions," Hollingsworth said in the September 2 "Warning Notice and Request for Additional Information." He reminded Westcott that his station must be under the direction of a control operator during all transmissions, and he gave him 20 days to provide further detailed information.

Among other thing, the FCC wanted to know the dates, times and frequencies of all code practice sessions, copies of any complaints he'd received and what procedure he used to make sure his transmissions do not begin on top of existing communications. An October 18 letter giving Westcott an additional 10 days to provide the requested information warned him that an NAL would be forthcoming if he failed to submit a reply within the allotted time.

Westcott has 30 days from the NAL's issuance date to respond, either by paying the fine or by seeking a reduction or cancellation.

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (VY1SK @ Dec. 07 2004,17:37)]Why won't the FCC do this to K1MAN???
While Riley can't comment openly, I sure wish I knew the answer to your question.

Sure sounds like the Constitutional guarantees of equal protection under the law aren't being followed too closely.

Perhaps, though, no response is worse in the FCC's eyes than an incomplete, irrelevant or incorrect response.

[KC9BXX]

The only thing that I have to say is that k1man knows that he has to share Frequencies with other amatures, if he is not sharing the frequencies(And I know that there are Many others out there) then he is in a violation, and needs to have the correct action taken for this

[ad4c]

Why If the FCC has received hundreds of complain letters and files about this long broadcast shows Mr Glenn is having 24/7 in the air has not done anything to stop him? They have the authority,tools and power to do it legally or simply send him to take the licence exams again and maybe he will not pass,when I think about all this uncontrolled mess is when doubts come to my mind,and a question shows,is he legal or illegal? FCC has done NOTHING AT ALL,so why people keep arguing him on the air creating a violent enviroment in 14275 and giving the world a bad image of ham radio? Is like drugs,we know USA is the biggest consumers country of cocaine,marihuana,etc and the drugdealers are making millions because of the users BUT IF they had no consumers they will not have a place to sell their poison,right? Well then IF Glenn one day will find out that he has no audience,nobody listening to him,nobody who wants to complain,he sooner or later will stop his stupidity,no doubt he is a sick man who feels the necesity to be listened,he wants to be powerful,he wants to play to be GOD,and because he so far has lots of complainers either in the air and here as well,he feels happy and that feeds his "ego",onlything I do with his show is use it as a 20M beacon to check propagation,when he is there,I know band is open,once he is gone,the band is closed to me,other than that his speech is insane and useless for me.The band is quite big,we have 150 Khz to talk,why stay in the same frecuency he is at and listen to his stupid show? Why push FCC to stop him If the FCC will not do anything? So far they have done nothing at all in spite of having enough evidence on hands,something wierd is behind the scene,mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Oh well this is America where everything can happens,God bless everyone,73 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w6em]

Now, here's an interesting statute:


18USC1512 (http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=browse_usc&docid=Cite:+18USC1512)

[ka1nmf]

Can someone please tell me what has been accomplished by unlisting his call in the QRZ database? Isn't the point of any database to be as accurate as possible? Also, I have read through nine pages of complaints. Taking interferrence out of the equation, what FCC rule(s) prevents him from doing what W1AW is permitted to do? Just curious.

[w5jon]

To KA1ZHI:

"Taking interferrence out of the equation, what FCC rule(s) prevents him from doing what W1AW is permitted to do."


Is like saying, "other then that how was the play Mrs. Lincoln". Also, what he is doing is "broadcasting", rantings which are totally unrelated to amateur radio, which is illegal. W1AW does not and is not.

Also, perhaps if you had a license that permitted you to operate 20 and 75 Meter phone, you would not be so willing to take the "interferrence out of the equation". Upgrade and join us on 20 and 75 Meter phone and you will find out.

73,

John W5JON

[k3nco]

It appears that one problem the FCC may be having is trying to figure out how to carefully define broadcasting such that it does not infringe on the rights of people who honestly are trying to provide a service to the community. They seem to be trying to find some other part of the rules to use.

I know what I think "broadcasting" is, and I believe that too much of what Glenn does is "broadcasting" not an amateur bulletin or news service, even neglecting the tone of the content. But I am hard pressed to craft an exacting description that would have some legal standing without the possibility of ruining things for others. Maybe this is what Glenn is hoping for, because then he would have "converts" on his side.

At the very least, he is being inconsiderate of all the other users of the band, and doubly so by doing it in AM. At least 75 meters is wide enough to give him some berth.

KC0OAB, on the other hand, is doing his imitation of Glenn on CW - normally a narrow enough signal to be able to avoid, but he is currently doing it at 7030, the QRP calling frequency in Europe (this low because of the European band plan that has to squeeze SSB and CW into 100 kHz). Now maybe he doesn't interfere with QRP-QRP qsos within Europe, but I can tell you right now, he was loud here (MD) last night, and I couldn't copy this French station, who was calling CQ, well enough to get the whole call. The problem is that many of the QRP operators in the UK and Germany (likely much of Europe?) are running homebrew 0.5-5W rigs that are crystal controlled - they can't move their transmissions!

I was working on a radio project, and was monitoring 7030 in case some early risers in Europe came up. Understand, the KC0OAB transmissions are identified as code practice, along with the ID of the station and the name and address of the operator, about every 10 minutes - couldn't sound more legal. At first I thought he would eventually go away - I was wrong! Three and a half hours later he was still going strong (and had looped back to the low speeds). The code practice runs from 5 WPM to 45 WPM with a fair break between speeds - but don't expect to get an answer to a query sent during the dead time - it seems no one is at the switch. The code practice text is from the bible - last night was Deuteronomy - should I infer something from this?

I closed down the shack but checked the call on the computer when I got back upstairs - this has been going on (in some form) since at least April. No one "owns" a frequency, but when you operate 24/7 as he reportedly does (he was on this morning, although noticeably weak) how can anyone complain that they were already on frequency and he interfered with them. Notice that the FCC is going after him for failure to meet administrative requirements and for questions about who the control operator was at any time. How do you legislate against such abuse without infringing on the rights of on-the-air Bible study groups or missionaries, some of whom have regularly scheduled sessions dating back years?

I guess the FCC is treading a fine line - but it really is a slow process. The only hope I see for it is peer pressure, but that doesn't seem to work well either, based on some of the iodicy I have heard on 75 meters. At least the QRP community is not out QRM'ing KC0OAB (not that it would be noticeable). The problem is , when someone is "broadcasting" (and NOT listening) how do you ever get their attention?

[ka1nmf]

w5jon -

Thank you for flaming my first post on QRZ in years. Your post points out I am a Novice and as such, I am unqualified to ask a sincere question unless I "upgrade." Thank you for your welcoming support in the hobby that I grew up with and love.

To all -

If you go back through the posts over the past few years, there is much talk and complaining about "why amateur radio is dying." One only has to look in the mirror to find the answer.

I miss the days of working WB5BQU "Big Quick and Ugly." One thing Burl "Tex" Burdick was, he was an optimist not only about ham radio, but about life. I sure do miss him, and ham radio misses him too. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[ab8rr]

Here's a thought. We will soon be rid of Howard Stern on broadcast radio. He will be moving to Sirius Satellite Radio. Viacom will need someone to replace him. Why not K1MAN ? Better yet, why doesn't he move his entire set of follies to Sirius as well. Then his die hard followers (If indeed there are any) can subscribe and listen to him all they want. Of course this may be the solution, if he moves there, with no listeners he may realize that nobody really cares about his drivel. Out os pure curiosity, I tuned to his "show" last weekend. I found nothing of use to me, the radio amateur, being broadcast. With all of the nazi name calling going on, I find it interesting that he is the one broadcasting the message of hate. Of course you must keep in mind that I am one of the nazi brown shirt leaders. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

73 All,

[w6em]

It seems strange to me that K1MAN hasn't been issued something in view of his apparent attempts to interfere with an investigation (by using derrogatory terms in public postings when referring to the FCC's Special Counsel for Enforcement, Mr. Riley Hollingsworth, to say nothing of his purportedly naming Hollingworth a party to Baxter's supposed federal lawsuit.) #And, in similar fashion, threatening the filing of Federal lawsuits and such to some who dare confront him in his practice of transmitting on certain frequencies even if other stations are already using the frequency at the time he begins.

Intimidation of potential complainants and federal officials involving an ongoing or potential investigation is a serious matter deserving the attention of the Justice Department.

Lee
W6EM
Bradenton, FL

[kc9gez]

Quote[/b] (k7ov @ Nov. 28 2004,22:15)]........ According [ the ] (to?) them, Baxter has broken the law on several # [ occations. ]

When YOU post opinions, it would be a good thing to have your facts #[ strait ] #so that you don't look like an idiot.

When YOU post opinions, it would be a good thing to learn to spell words correctly so that you don't look like an idiot.

[w5jon]

to KA1ZHI

How about we take,"flaming my first post on QRZ in years" and that you "are a Novice", and never been wiped out by a K1MAN broadcast on 20 or 75 Meters, "out of the equation".

The point I was trying to make was the malicious interferience that K1MAN has been causing for years, IS a major part of the "equation". To try and dismiss and/or trivialize that fact attacks the core of the entire discussion, and the concerns of 100's of serious, concerned, law abiding amateurs.

Good luck on the upgrade.

73,

John W5JON

[k4rwh]

Hey guys,

# # I have never heard K1MAN nor do I care to from what I have read here, BUT!!!, I HIGHLY DISAGREE that W1AW is a cause. I am a Tech and currently working on my code for general, and I use W1AW EVERY CHANCE I get to improve my copying ability. #It has a published schedule, in QST and on the web, which it sticks to very well, it does it's job and gets off the air. It does not get nor ask for monitary concerns. IT IS A SERVICE TO THE HAM COMMUNITY! There have been many times that I have waited, listening to a dead freq for W1AW to start, and at about the 3rd word of text all of a sudden it goes crazy with tuneups, and others sending streams of text gibberish and I'm pretty sure they are senT via computer and not keying since the characters are the standard asdfjklgh on the keyboard, and certianly not at any Farnworths speeds.I'd be inclined to call that interference, W1AW does send notice in CW at 5 mins and 1 min before the top of the hour of the beginning of its transmission for CW Practice. Thats my cue to get ready to copy so I can past that test. Wish me Luck, HUH?

Please gentlemen, lets review these comments and take into account all considerations for our fellow Hams.

Now as to horriable amature practice?...........please continue to SLAM K1MAN, as so far, you seem to have done a fine job of it, just don't add to it by causing interference yourself. Remember, "What goes around, comes around!

But please think of me, and others like me, that need the code, to further our hobby. At least till the FCC and ARRL ((****DREAMING****))) Drop the code.

I hope I speak for all the Codeless Hams.

Rod
K4RWH
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Dec. 12 2004,13:21)]This outline should bring QRZ readers up to date with recent FCC actions regarding K1MAN.


Complaints may be directed via email to Riley Hollingsworth at: rholling@fcc.gov

Letters should be directed to:

FCC Enforcement
Riley Hollingsworth
1270 Fairfield Road
Gettysburg, PA 17325

There is also a criminal forfeiture that may accompany the broadcast of obscenity. At the court's discretion, the government can seize ALL equipment used to broadcast obscenity.

United States Code
TITLE 18 - Crimes and Criminal Procedure
PART I - Crimes
CHAPTER 71 - Obscenity
SECTION 1464. Broadcasting obscene language

Whoever utters any obscene, indecent, or profane language by means of radio communication shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Section 1467. Criminal forfeiture

<u>(a) Property Subject to Criminal Forfeiture. - A person who is
convicted of an offense involving obscene material under this
chapter shall forfeit to the United States such person's interest
in -</u>
(1) any obscene material produced, transported, mailed,
shipped, or received in violation of this chapter;
(2) any property, real or personal, constituting or traceable
to gross profits or other proceeds obtained from such offense;
and
(3) <u>any property, real or personal, used or intended to be used
to commit or to promote the commission of such offense,</u> if the
court in its discretion so determines, taking into consideration
the nature, scope, and proportionality of the use of the property
in the offense.

You can help FCC Enforcement by taking a stand against obscenity, pecuniary interests, threats, and deliberate interference. Please send YOUR complaint to rholling@fcc.gov today!


K3VR
K3VR:

If K1MAN truly has named you in a federal lawsuit requesting a Writ of Mandamus, an Amicus Curiae outlining some of what you have posted would be an interesting introduction.

Sometimes, the Justice Department can be shown evidence of real value when an opportunity presents itself in court proceedings that otherwise have little merit.

And, if he's really included Mr. Hollingsworth in his supposed lawsuit, as he asserts, I surely couldn't imagine a lawful purpose for having done it.

73,

Lee
W6EM

[w6em]

Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Dec. 12 2004,13:21)]Section 1467. Criminal forfeiture

<u>(a) Property Subject to Criminal Forfeiture. - A person who is
convicted of an offense involving obscene material under this
chapter shall forfeit to the United States such person's interest
in -</u>
(1) any obscene material produced, transported, mailed,
shipped, or received in violation of this chapter;
(2) any property, real or personal, constituting or traceable
to gross profits or other proceeds obtained from such offense;
and
(3) <u>any property, real or personal, used or intended to be used
to commit or to promote the commission of such offense,</u> if the
court in its discretion so determines, taking into consideration
the nature, scope, and proportionality of the use of the property
in the offense.
In addition to some Collins equipment being confiscated, even Baxter Point may become US property. #Perhaps the FCC agents were conducting a survey and taking inventory of their soon-to-be acquired new monitoring station......

[K3EKO]

Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Dec. 14 2004,00:44)]<H1> Saint Glenn!</H1> http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

"The ones using obsenity [sic] on his radio program are the callers and the QRMers"

<H1>TRUE!</H1>
And Glenn Baxter spews the obscene contents of his answering machine all over our Amateur radio frequencies, thereby demonstrating a GROSS LACK of proper control.

Thank you for pointing that out!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
I don't think the Vatican would go along with Saint Glenn. #Although, the Vatican just agreed to fund the defense of Tariq Aziz one of Saddam's top lieutenant's...Anything is possible.

[w6em]

Thanks Fred, for moderating the thread and removing the hijacked postings.


Lee
W6EM
Bradenton, FL.

[K9MSG]

As someone with 30 years of hamming,and a life member of ARRL,
I thought maybe someone else had a different approach to some of the problems hams are having ,and the changes the FCC are making to the ham community . Man was I wrong. As I listened to
K1MAN ,there were no HAM NEWS . Just reterick and personal attacks on someone else's character .. Everything about that "Broadcast" is negative . Not a good influence for prospective , or new hams that is starting a new hobby ..K9MSG

[ai4ij]

It occurs to me that, since amateur radio is self-policing, we ought to have some collective authority on such matters as K1MAN. Perhaps, the FCC could add a rather simple new regulation. To wit:

In the event that the FCC receives 100 (arbitrary number plucked out of the air)written complaints from other licensed amateur operators about a particular amateur operator, the subject of the complaints would:

1st - Have their amateur license suspended for one year - regardless of the nature of the complaints.

2nd - After re-instatement of their license, if there are another 100 (arbitrary number, again) complaints, their license would