Scrap the Electoral College?

[N7AAO]

Following the 2000 election, and pretty much up till last nite, liberals have been saying that we need to do away with the Electoral College and go to a straight popular vote for President.

So, with the President apparently winning the popular vote by a margin of 3.5-4 million votes, do you liberals still want to get rid of the Electoral College and go to a popular vote? Or are you supporting the Electoral College now that it holds out a slim chance for Mr. Kerry to win?

I ask in all honesty, BTW.

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[ai4ep]

It really does not matter....BUSH won.

[K3UD]

I asked the same thing in another thread, did not get an answer. What goes around comes around.

73
George
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[N8CPA]

If you look at the colors of the electoral maps, it becomes clear why the founders established the system. Some of the entire states in areas colored red only have as many people as the single cities in areas colored blue. In the asbence of the college, we'd be not a nation of states, but a coalition of ruling and ruled city/states in a feudal caste system.

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (N8CPA @ Nov. 03 2004,08:48)]If you look at the colors of the electoral maps, it becomes clear why the founders established the system. Some of the entire states in areas colored red only have as many people as the single cities in areas colored blue. In the asbence of the college, we'd be not a nation of states, but a coalition of ruling and ruled city/states in a feudal caste system.
Without the Electoral College, do ya think Ohio would have seen as many visits as they did? The candidates would spend their time in NYC, LA, and Chicago mostly.

Hmmm... those three areas are strongly Democratic... maybe that's why the Dems would prefer to scrap the Electoral College?

[K7JBQ]

Those who don't understand the difference between a Democracy and a Republic will always want to abolish the Electoral College. A hundred years ago, a hundred years from now, same deal.

73,
Bill

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (K7JBQ @ Nov. 03 2004,10:07)]Those who don't understand the difference between a Democracy and a Republic will always want to abolish the Electoral College. A hundred years ago, a hundred years from now, same deal.

73,
Bill
Maybe that's why Democrats want to scrap it and Republicans want to keep it?

Just a thought...

[K7JBQ]

David,

That occured to me too, even as I wrote it.
I was just in too good a mood to mention it.
Gentlemen, the bar is open.

73,
Bill

[n0nwo]

Quote[/b] ]Following the 2000 election, and pretty much up till last nite, liberals have been saying that we need to do away with the Electoral College and go to a straight popular vote for President.


IF that happened, three or four states would decide every election. A very bad idea.

[K0YNE]

I believe Colorado has voted to allow percentages of their votes to be divided between the parties as to who had the majority and the runner up got something to show for their effort. This would work.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (K0YNE @ Nov. 03 2004,16:35)]I believe Colorado has voted to allow percentages of their votes to be divided between the parties as to who had the majority and the runner up got something to show for their effort. This would work.
It will work poorly and it will be divisive, with Denver (the only city with 100,000+) wagging the tail. Not a good idea.



WA5KRP
Texas

[K7JBQ]

Even worse is the split-by-congressional districts scheme used in Maine and Nebraska, which would inject all the evils of gerrymandering into the presidential race.

73,
Bill

[ae4fa]

Quote[/b] ]I believe Colorado has voted to allow percentages of their votes to be divided between the parties as to who had the majority and the runner up got something to show for their effort. This would work.
Actually, to Colorado's voters' credit, that proposition failed - quite soundly. And, it might work, but it wouldn't work well. That's why only two really small (population-wise) states have gone to that. They're probably sorry they did - it undercuts their influence nationally.

[k4kyv]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Nov. 03 2004,08:06)]Following the 2000 election, and pretty much up till last nite, liberals have been saying that we need to do away with the Electoral College and go to a straight popular vote for President.
Get rid of the electoral college if it will cause the guy I voted for to lose. Keep it if it will help the guy I voted for to win.

[ae4fa]

I saw a very interesting graphic (I think on ABC) that did away with coloring in states. Rather, it colored only precincts, and used blue columns to represent the big cities. What an eye-opener!

Virtually the entire country was a sea of red, with blue columns representing the big population centers.

Now the Dems are asking themselves what to do. One idea suggested was to replace Daschle with somebody even more liberal (I forget the name).

How 'bout, instead, nominating a candidate who isn't a whacked out liberal from the northeast? Last time a Liberal Dem from the northeast was elected president was 1960.

Since then, they've only had Johnson from Texas, Carter from Georgia, and Clinton from Arkansas. So, how dumb do you have to be to miss that message, folks????????????

[K7JBQ]

Bob,

Please shush. You might give them ideas.

73,
Bill

[ae4fa]

That wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. #This country NEEDS a vibrant two-party system. #Sad that we can't seem to get one 'cause the ultra-libs would rather lose than compromise - much less listen to the electorate.

[k6pme]

Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Nov. 03 2004,17:38)]Virtually the entire country was a sea of red, with blue columns representing the big population centers.
You should see the blue/red of California. It's mostly red except for the bay Area, coastal area's, and L.A.

Unfotunately, the rural part of California is badly outnumbered by the liberal cites.

(Contrary to popular belief, California is about 85% rural)

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (K0YNE @ Nov. 03 2004,14:35)]I believe Colorado has voted to allow percentages of their votes to be divided between the parties as to who had the majority and the runner up got something to show for their effort. This would work.
Actually, Colorado's Amendment 36, which is the proportional allotment measure, went down with 66% voting no to 34% voting yes. Results at FoxNews.com (http://www.foxnews.com/youdecide2004/races.html?CO) (Amendment 36 is way at the bottom)

[ka5s]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Nov. 03 2004,08:06)]So, with the President apparently winning the popular vote by a margin of 3.5-4 million votes, do you liberals still want to get rid of the Electoral College and go to a popular vote? Or are you supporting the Electoral College now that it holds out a slim chance for Mr. Kerry to win?
Given that the Republic will survive either one...

It would be deliciously ironic for those who advocate direct election to win in the Electoral College over a candidate with three million more popular votes!