QRZ Criticized Over Refusal to List K1MAN

[AA7BQ]

In a recent editorial (11/2/04) by K1MAN on his website,
Glen Baxter has accused QRZ.COM of abridging the right of
free speech by refusing to allow him access to our website
and for not listing his callsign, photo, or bio information.

Some time ago, the staff at QRZ some decided to de-list the
K1MAN callsign based on our collective opinion that he does
not represent a view of amateur radio activities that is
condusive to the furtherance of the hobby. In other words,
we don't think that he represents the true nature of the
hobby and in many ways may be detrimental to it. Apparently,
the FCC agrees on this point.

Based on this opinion, QRZ exercised its sole prerogative
to deny website access to K1MAN. We are exercising our right
to free speech in making this choice.

QRZ strongly believes that the majority its users, who
themselves represent a broad spectrum of the amateur radio
public, agree with our actions. Rather than assert this
point speculatively however, We have decided to conduct
informal poll to ask the simple question, "Do you agree
with QRZ's decision to deny access to K1MAN?".

Below is an excerpt of the K1MAN article that critizes QRZ
on this topic.

K1MAN writes:
"Screw them, this is America, read my lips: "RILEY
HOLLINGSWORTH IS A CHEAP AND CORRUPT POLITICAL WHO WAS SICK
ON THE DAY THEY TAUGHT LAW AT LAW SCHOOL, THIS IS K1MAN."
We can't wait to see "Riley the Whimp"....."Rot Riley,"
himself, in court. Boy, it feels great to be an American,
doesn't it? Eat your hearts out my fellow citizens of the
world, WE, in the great United States of America, ARE
free! QRZ.com is free to drop anyone he wants, a little
corrupt, perhaps, but free never the less. He has simply
made a bad choice and has totally host his credibility,
bit, bu God, he is free."

For the full text of his article, please see:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/K1MAN14275/myhomepage/business.html

[ka4p]

Although we all have a right to free speech, we do not have a right to be heard. Many people confuse the two issues. QRZ has no obligation to provide a platform for K1MAN or anyone else from which they can spew bilgewater.

[K1XS]

Fred:

I always get a laugh out of claims of someone violating free speech or censorship on a PRIVATELY owned forum.

QRZ is yours and you allow others to access it based on the rules you set. If someone does not like it, they can leave or start their own web site. I agree with your decision to de-list anyone you do not want on QRZ.com for violating your rules.

QRZ is not a town park.

73,

Ken K1XS

[K4SFC]

I should live so long, for the FCC to get this guy off the air. And to think I worry about running too much power on 60M. Look what he gets away with!

[K7JBQ]

The right to free speech does not include the right to be published anywhere one chooses.

Who else will demand access? ex-KG6IRO?

73,
Bill

[K8SOR]

Fred,
Keep up the good work. The less we hear of k1man the better.
K8SOR Skip

[WB2WIK]

Baxter's a lunatic.

And it's a shame, because he was once a highly respected expert on maintenance, repair and upgrade of Collins equipment. No longer. Wonder what happened over the last 25 or 30 years...?

WB2WIK/6

[K9RIF]

I have to agree with KA4P As we all have the right to free speech we don't all have the right to be heard. My experience with law and law enforcement the people who complain the most about their civil rights being violated are the ones who are breaking the laws and have no real concept of what is right or wrong!!! Way to go QRZ I Back you 100%http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[w5dhm]

This guy seems to have a lot of energy. Too bad he couldn't use it for something useful. We don't need him here. Somebody must need him.

[K7JAZ]

I agree with what's been said here so far...nice to see that many people actually DO understand the free speech law, too bad so many including K1MANiac don't. QRZ is a private enterprise and they have the RIGHT to deny access to anyone they wish. Looks to me like they've made a sensible decision.

[K3UD]

Quote[/b] (aa7bq @ Nov. 03 2004,13:01)]K1MAN writes:
"Screw them, this is America, read my lips: "RILEY
HOLLINGSWORTH IS A CHEAP AND CORRUPT POLITICAL WHO WAS SICK
ON THE DAY THEY TAUGHT LAW AT LAW SCHOOL, THIS IS K1MAN."
We can't wait to see "Riley the Whimp"....."Rot Riley,"
himself, in court. # Boy, it feels great to be an American,
doesn't it? # Eat your hearts out my fellow citizens of the
world, WE, in the great United States of America, ARE
free! #QRZ.com is free to drop anyone he wants, a little
corrupt, perhaps, but free never the less. # He has simply
made a bad choice and has totally host his credibility,
bit, bu God, he is free."

For the full text of his article, please see:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/K1MAN14275/myhomepage/business.html

The garbage from his website tells me all I need to know about him.

QRZ does not need to put up with it.

Is there any way we can delist him from 20 meters?

73
George
K3UD

[KG4RUL]

QRZ is a Privately owned Amateur Radio bulletin board. K1MAN HAS NO RIGHTS WHATSOEVER to have his views posted on it. If QRZ judged my remarks to not be suitable, they have the same right to remove me. That is the real world folks. GET USED TO IT!

Dennis http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[K8YS]

Fred, it is YOUR HOUSE, you can invite or kick out whom ever you want and for whatever reason.

[w6em]

It is your site, and you are in part responsible for what is posted and viewable. Especially things that might be defaming or obscene. And, since it is yours, you have a right to edit, delete, clip or do whatever you want as far as users postings are concerned.

It isn't a subscription service, so we have no contract or right, beyond what you allow us to have, in your desire to share it with the amateur radio community for the benefit of amateur radio. Thanks for allowing me the privelege of posting.

I support your decision, as it is based upon what you have observed posted elsewhere as an example of what would likely be posted here.


73,

Lee
W6EM

[KG6JEV]

Congratulations for having the nerve to ban this guy. I see eHam has done the same thing and someone submitted "updated" information on his profile on buck.com. I can't wait until the FCC pulls the plug on his broadcast operation - mr. baxter has a warped view of the rules and is clearly abusing his license. Furthermore, he is an embarrassment to amateur radio.

73,

Steven

[KI7DG]

OK and thanks Fred lets not stop with just one, there is one more we all could do with out. It has a 1x2 call.

[K3ESE]

FREE SPEECH!!! That is SO funny. I guess he's way beyond the bend, now. You bad mans, keeping his tripe off your site!

[n0nwo]

I had the privilege and delight to be able to tell Glen Baxter, on the air, that I felt he maw an embarrassment nd a black eye on all American amateurs. I explained to him that his overly long broadcast that had nothing to do with amateur radio were a disgrace and served to damage the cause instead of helping. Gawd it felt so good to be able to tell min that!

His reply was that I was "shooting from the hip."

Perhaps I was, but -- I sure hit the target dead center
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif


Minton

[N3IVK]

I read about a page of his webpage (K1MAN's) and fell asleep . #Someone send that man a antidepressant or maybe point him in the direction of Yahoo's personals section lol. #

Fred, you can kick people off anytime you want, you own the service, he doesn't. If he doesnt like it, then he can make his own.

I said it before, I will say it again, Fred your doing a good job with the board. Keep up the good work !

Matt N3IVK

[kc0suz]

Is this the drunk guy who was calling CQ for a "true patriot" on 20m last weekend? #What a maroon!!

As an aside, you obviously made the right choice. #Good riddance to bad rubbish.

I just read his 'abbreviated' history of technical revolution in which he leaves out most of the major acheivements including the bronze age, iron age, smelting of ore, etc... The rest of them... ugh. Phoenician alphabet is 22 characters, not 26, it was not the first, ugaritic predates it by some degree. I hate it when a pseudointellectual moron spouts supposed truth in a public way because if you didn't know better you might think this person was right!!

[KJ0L]

( k1MAN )

IS MORE OF A BROADCASTER...
THAN A HAM.. HERE TO FURTHER OUR HOBBY!

His narrow views... his shortsighted one way opinions.. his bashing of figures in and out of office.. and his total disregards to rules and regs and most of all other total disregard to other hams operating on the ham bands legally by broadcasting his propaganda over them...
Will be his down fall...

Glen.......take your broadcasting butt and buy a broadcasting station.... Sir and get off our ham bands !
Today!

I AM (((KJØL)))

AND I APPROVE OF THIS MESSAGE!

--
Remember Evil only survives when Good Men step back and do nothing!

See our web page at...
http://www.kj0l.com

[KD5OLK]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif I agree 100% on your right to delist K1MAN, he sounds like someone the FCC needs to deal with quickly..

gandalf

[w5jon]

Two weeks ago I sent a letter to the FCC informing them of the K1MAN interference to the Boy Scouts on 3.890 during JOTA on 10/16/04. There were more then 10 stations, on the frequency, for more then a hour prior to the startup of the K1MAN "broadcast". Many of the Scouts getting their first demo of Amateur Radio. An effort was made to QSY but due to the K1MAN "broadcast", many were lost or just left in frustration. K1MAN stated they should have known about his "broadcast" and/or just QSY, and it was the Boy Scouts fault.

I now understand because of the letter, this week on the K1MAN "broadcast" I am now a "hypocite" and a "twerp". However, I just consider the source, and consider it an Honorable Mention, from a person I have never spoke with on the radio,or EMailed.

Guess which way I voted above ...

73,

John W5JON

[K0RGR]

One wonders how long this fellow will be able to stretch the rules before the FCC snaps them back on him like a rubber band. You'd think he'd eventually grow tired of it.

[na4it]

What I can't understand is that amateurs are supposed to be "self-policing", yet with all the complaints filed and his history with the FCC, they continue to let him operate. Come on, Riley! Kick him to the curb!

Good job, Fred!

[w4amp]

Finally a QRZ thread that everyone agrees with. Having to listen to K1MAN's nervous breakdown on the air is bad enough. The dx'ers love him! Do a search here for K1MAN:
http://oh2w.kolumbus.com/dxs/qin.html

Why the commission has not loaded up his crap into a panel truck and hauled it away is beyond me. FCC enforcement continues to be biased and uneven across the board. I guess after they rammed BPL down our throat we should not expect much.


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[K9REH]

Sound decision Fred, we don't need any of his diatribe here. Not only is he a bad example of an amateur, along with his FCC violations, he is also a plagerist.

Rick
K9REH

[K7JAZ]

This Baxter guy is certifiably insane! #Have you read his letters to Riley? #He has a page in his website too, a photo of himself and his "girlfriend" pet tiger, the caption says they both anxiously await Riley's visit! #That sure sounds like a thinly veiled threat to my ears; "come on Riley, my tiger and I are waiting for you"....! #The one thing I don't understand, is why the FCC is not doing something.....unless they're afraid of the tiger.....they need to take a couple guys with automatic weapons with them (for the tiger if necessary) and go get this guy, and his little kitty too!

Great work Fred! I completely agree with your decision, along with 98.9% of everyone who has voted so far. I'll bet this percentage continues to grow.

73, Mike

[k7ov]

I have to say that I agree with everything I read on this thread. Freedom of speech is a guarantee by our Government and is a restriction of Government, not businesses or individuals. If it were, we would have to stand and listen to any idiot that wants to "Say" something or break the law by leaving.

Ever see the sign in a resterraunt that says "We reserver the RIGHT to refuse service to anyone!" ? You have that RIGHT as well. Good job and thank you for sparing us from that person. I read a bit of his web page, that is, enough to know that I want nothing to do with him.

73,

Mike - K7OV

[W0MT]

I find it amazing to hear Baxter asserting QRZ has violated his “freedom of speech.” Call it a silly guess but I don’t think he has a clue concerning his right of “freedom of speech.” Quoting the relevant part of the First Amendment to the Constitution, “Congress shall make no law . . . abridging the freedom of speech . . ..”

Decisions by a private party (such as QRZ) to fail to provide a forum for Baxter has NOTHING to do with freedom of speech. That is, unless somehow QRZ and the Congress of the US are one and the same.

Keep this guy off QRZ!

[ad6zj]

It's fascinating to see some people complain about free speech. K1MAN should be ashamed for trying to invoke his free speech by denying you of yours. Keep up the good work on QRZ.

AD6ZJ, Loren

[kc4wms]

K1MAN now there's a call that screams to be revoked.
I've never heard a more self righteous waste of band width as his "COMMERCIAL" Broadcasts on the bands. How do I justify saying "Commercial" ? check his website. www.k1man.COM ie Commerce address. sounds like a double felony to me.

tongue in cheek ;op kc4wms

[w5nl]

I think he's trying to involve QRZ in his "commercial" broadcasting. I just heard a plug for the new QRZ CD ROM minutes ago. Also a plug for this website. Hasn't this been going on for years now?? Why hasn't he been dealt with already?

[n7spy]

What needs to start happening is for people to learn that their rights have responsibilites attached to them... and consequences for both assuming and disregarding the responsibilities of those rights.

K1MAN has the right to say whatever he wants... but not here... because qrz.com is not a public forum, it's Fred's website.

K1MAN also has to pay the consequences of his actions... starting with Fred's decision of not showing his call sign on QRZ.COM... which is HIS right because is HIS site.

Will Fred have to "pay the consequences" (so to speak) for delisting K1MAN?? Absolutely... but look how beautiful consequences they are: 119 out of 121 (as of 2100Z) hams who use this site agree with him.

Eventually K1MAN will fade away... if anything, because he'll go SK sooner or later

[k5co]

I love the idea that QRZ is a place to blow some smoke when feeling passionate about one issue or another. And a good place to see what other ham's might be thinking.
But, we don't need ranting lunatics; they contribute nothing.
Please keep the site as open as possible and no: you do not have to publish every blowhard that thinks he has a right to your piece of the media.

Kd5PSH

[N8CPA]

Fred, your house, your rules. And you've done Amateur Radio a favor as far as I'm concerned.
MAN, long ago, began thinking of his license as a broadcast license. He has repeatedly damaged the esteem of our prefixes and Service for too many years. Besides, he has his own website, and you are in no way obligated to convey his message in any form.

[KB2KAB]

I'm glad to see that QRZ, is still standing by ham radio community. This is an unfortunate situation. This is to show that, even though we have freedoms, there is a limit to what you can say on radio, or even in this forum. THANK YOU QRZ!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[kc8vjd]

It is one thing to exercise free speech but it is totally different to abuse it. I honestly feel that he is abusing it by trying to force his propoganda on us in this manner.

Haven't we seen enough of that in the political campaigns which just ended? We get on the radio to relax and enjoy ourselves yet when I tune across 14275, THERE HE IS!

He will never be any competition with ARRL now or any time. I think that QRZ is right on for exercising it's right to free speech as he has chosen to do the same by delisting himself.

Glen has stirred up a hornet's nest by his actions and now is complaining about getting stung. Give us a break Glen!

[k7unz]

Free speach is all well and good, and I for one support the concept.

However, the right to free speach ends when you enter into a private environment, which has clearly published rules of behavior.

Being allowed access to this site is no different than being allowed access to a home. #The owner decides who can enter, and what behavior is expected while you visit.

If you can't follow the rules, don't let the "door" hit you in the butt on your way out!

Jim/k7unz

[K7JAZ]

K3VR, thank you for the very informative and intellingent report on Baxter. It does make a person wonder how, if all this information is public knowledge and true, that the FCC or even some other branch of government hasn't landed on him yet.

In 1969 when I was studying for my first ham ticket, the Novice class, one of the practice questions in the ARRL License manual was, "How is illegal transmitting by an amateur punishable?" OK, it was probably written in better English.....the answer was, "Illegal transmission by an amateur is punishable by possible confiscation of the amateur's equipment, plus fines of up to $1000 a day for each day of illegal operation, plus imprisionment or both". That made me believe I'd better not mess around on the air, and to this day I've never sent so much as a dit illegally...but, geez! How is it that now we hear of so much deliberate abuse, and the FCC does virtually nothing more than send a few letters? Sorry if you think I'm an uncivilized barbarian, but I believe we need some stronger action, when it's been proven that an individual has stepped over the line like this. I don't mean revoking a license for a minor mistake, but there are some who seem to deliberately testing the limits, like a little kid tests his parents to see how much he can get away with. The FCC needs to do something more than write letters. Maybe they're just biding their time until his renewal comes up?

[k4vvx]

Fred, thank you for providing this site and for doing "The Right Thing". Whenever I am here, I consider myself a guest in your house. #I can't say anything that has not already been said here about K1MAN except that I totally agree with your decision. #Good job! #It's people like K1MAN that make me cautious about telling people that I have been K4VVX since 1960 when I was a 16 year old kid.

[w4nti]

I have been following Baxters antics for several years now. I honestly believe he is in the process of experiencing a mental break down.

I can't in all honesty say he has accomplished a thing to enhance or better amateur radio. All he has ever done is attack the ARRL and take credit for events that never happened. We all know about his famous ''jump teams'', right? And lately he has taken on Mr. Hollingsworth at the FCC.

Mr. Baxter claims to be in the ''business'' of Emergency Communications. Recently he went to a 24/7 format and was claiming to be providing emergency communications via his AMTOR link and alleged nets on 14.272. I spent several days attempting to hear ANYTHING concerning this alleged activity....THERE WAS NONE. Maybe that is because real hams did the real thing by being involved in the National traffic system, the Hurricane net, SATERN, the MM and Intercon nets, etc. Ya think?

K1MAN is on the way out. He is due to renew in October of 2004. We ALL need to do what we can to help him find the door. I suggest tape recordings, signed comments and lots of mail to the FCC. Give Mr. Hollingsworth a message at; RHOLLING@fcc.gov
or give him a l/l and leave a message at (717) 338-2502.

Dan/W4NTI

[w4nti]

Sorry, make that 2005.

Dan/W4NTI

[N0KLT]

Fred,

You are most certainly within your rights to delist and ban K1MAN or anyone else. QRZ.COM is a private entity owned by you and if you want to ban everyone but people named Roy who are born on a Tuesday, you are within your legal rights.

Keep up the good work and again congratulations on a good well run internet site. Keep up the good work, Fred and pass the congratulations and thank you's to all of those folks who help you maintain the site in whatever capacity.

Gary NØKLT

[n5pu]

All I have to say is, "Amen". Way to go QRZ!
Leon-N5PU

[WD4HXG]

Check the following link on K1MAN.

http://www.talkaboutradio.com/group....03.html (http://www.talkaboutradio.com/group/rec.radio.amateur.policy/messages/282203.html)

It seems he told Riley to go pound sand. Kind of reminds me of the goat that charged a locomotive. Have to admire his spunk but darn his judgement.

Does anyone know why he is playing hardball with the FCC? Is he suffering from dementia, or sheer ignorance?

Ok. We need to work towards getting this retard off the air. He is such a rude and disrespectful moron.

[kd5foy]

I strongly agree with the decision taken by QRZ to delist
K1MAN. Now if we could get Riley to quit using the kid
gloves when dealing with Baxter and issue a very large
NAL and confiscate his equipment we could be rid of this
embarrassment and black eye to Ham Radio.

[K2WH]

Quote[/b] (kd5foy @ Nov. 02 2004,16:33)]I strongly agree with the decision taken by QRZ to delist Baxter.
Now if we could get Riley to quit using the kid
gloves when dealing with Baxter and issue a very large
NAL and confiscate his equipment we could be rid of this
embarrassment and black eye to Ham Radio.
In regards to this posting, after all these years, I am still confused about why the FCC does not act to shut him down. #Maybe they can't.

Either the FCC is unwilling to go to court against Baxter or Baxter is not really breaking any laws. #While his "Show" is reprehensible to the ham community, the FCC seems to be at a loss on how to shut him down. #Notice I did not use his calls. #I am censoring him also. #

K2WH

[N2ACX]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Just looked on QRZ to verify that....good. Now, I also went to this site and typed in K1MAN. You won't believe what he has for the QSL manager.....whew! And notice the comment at the top of the page.
QRZ has made the correct decision concerning the listing of this......person.


<a href="http://hamcall.net/cgi-bin/do_hamcallexe" target="_blank">
WorldWide Ham Call Server</a>

73 N2ACX Gary

[nf0a]

Give an inch to certain individuals, they take the whole yard!... and they want others to agree with their viewpoint regardless of how immature and misguided it sounds...

[k3wq]

I don’t think Mr. Baxter is worth worrying about, nevertheless I do understand and agree with QRZ’s decision to distance itself from him. However, removing him from the QRZ listings is, arguably, censorship.

So I suggest that QRZ allow the mundane licensing information about K1MAN remain (e.g. name, address, license class, call sign, etc.), but ban Mr. Baxter from the site (refuse him an account) and prevent him from submitting his e-mail address, QSL card image and biography.

-Dave, K3WQ

[K7JAZ]

Quote[/b] (k3wq @ Nov. 03 2004,15:59)]So I suggest that QRZ allow the mundane licensing information about K1MAN remain (e.g. name, address, license class, call sign, etc.), but ban Mr. Baxter from the site (refuse him an account) and prevent him from submitting his e-mail address, QSL card image and biography.

-Dave, K3WQ
QRZ has a link to that info via the FCC site, so that's pretty much exactly the way it is.

[KV9U]

It is very unfortunate, but K1MAN has been a disturbed individual for many years now as evidenced by his unfortunate behaviors.

First amendment issues refer to government preventing someone one from expressing their viewpoints. It does not come into play with a private organization such as qrz.com, therefore there can be no violation of free speech in such cases.

[kc2kvz]

Fred;
Your sandbox, your tonka trucks, your rules. Right on OM

73 de kc2kvz

[k0zl]

Fred, thanks for making a stand against this lid.

73,

Bill K0ZL

[W7TUX]

Its about time some one lets this clown know how this hobby feels about his crap (sorry). #Thank you QRZ. # I have never seen any one dedecated to destroying ham radio as much as this guy.

w7tux

[ac7dx]

Hang in there guys... I am positive that the FCC and by all means the ARRL will stop this soon......Dont ya just love the ARRL? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[ae4fa]

You have my compliments, Fred!

QRZ being blasted by that total jerk is sort of like France's Le Monde endorsing Kerry instead of Bush. It means you're on the right track.

[n9jrn]

Just maybe the reason the FCC is being so leniant is they suspect alshiemers and are just hoping he forgets where his radio is!?!?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[kb5cqf]

I voted in agreement with QRZs decision to de-list K1MAN, yet I wish the poll had been phrased differently. #I entirely agree that QRZ has the right to publish or not publish as they see fit. #There is absolutely no question as to that. #Personally, I find K1MANs viewpoints and discourse to be utterly amazing. #Amazing in the sense that it must be terrible to have the worldview that he apparently does. #Does anyone out there know this man personally and what he is like? #Obviously, he has some problems. #His web site is certainly... enlightening. #
For myself, though, I prefer to do my own 'content filtering'. #I would rather be offended than protected. #I have yet in my life seen or heard anything that I could not come to grips with myself. #Of course, I do not envy QRZ being in the position they are in. #It appears as though they took this action only after deep thought and with concern for our hobby. #I would not want to have to make that decision. #It is a shame that K1MAN could not convey his ideas (bizarre as they are), in a manner better framed to this forum.
I suppose that I am a little confused as to how completely de-listing his callsign, as opposed to just disallowing his posts and bio info was decided. #The guy is still licensed (God only knows how). #I don't think that just listing the FCC data on his call would really offend, would it? #Yes, I know there is a link to the info via the raw data on the FCC site.
73,
Ted

[ka1kjz]

Quote[/b] (ac7dx @ Nov. 03 2004,16:55)]Hang in there guys... I am positive that the FCC and by all means the ARRL will stop this soon......Dont ya just love the ARRL? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
And JUST what will the ARRL do??? Send him some books? Beg for "spectrum defense" money?

The ARRL is a nearly 100 yr old ham club that thinks its vacuum tube mentality is still relevant.

Why do people think the ARRL is some sort of enforcement agency??

I plan to send a Freedom of Information Request to the FCC regarding Baxter... let's see what they've been up to.

[KA3RFE]

Yawn...big fat hairy deal...

[KC2IFR]

K1BOY represents all that is bad in ham radio. This self appointed fool should spend some time with his mentors on the chicken band....but I bet even those folks would find him tough to take.

[WD8KDG]

I once belonged to an organization which used a real nice voting device. It was a wooden container that held the same number of marbles as members, plus a couple extra black marbles. You didn't want to be the reason to use this voting machine. The box was passed around the room and each member reached into the box, selected a marble, and dropped it into the chamber below; thus a secret ballot. One black marble and the offending member was no longer a member.

K1MAN gets my black marble. What does it take for the FCC to issue a black marble?

[ku4gw]

I don't support QRZ giving K1MAN the right to express his viewpoints whatsoever, however, so long as he is an FCC licensed Amateur, his call should at least be listed in the Callsign database. It amazes me how the FCC Enforcement letters dated 10/30/04 can fine a former CB operator $10,000.00 for violations, yet they have given K1MAN 20 days to reply to violation accusations 2 or 3 times now and still there are no monetary forfeitures issued to him for his repeated violations insofar as intentional interference, etc. Why is the FCC afraid of K1MAN? If it were me or you we would have already had our license suspended by now, not to mention the monetary forfeitures. My thoughts anyway.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # 73 de KU4GW Cliff

[w5nl]

There's a little story behind why that ball is black. Wanna share that with the group also??

I prefer a club that will take that black ball, get up out of the chair and hand it to you looking you dead in the face. Like a few of the A.R.C.'s I know of.

Back to the point. Baxter should have been removed a long time ago.

Some of that spectrum defense money should have been used for him.

[k1lwi]

fred,thank for marking a stand on k1man http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

73 wendell

[n0ov]

K1MAN should realize freedom of speech also includes the freedom to SHUT UP.

No one cares what he has to say. If he want's to run his mouth and bother people, give up amateur radio and run for public office

The guy is a nut, & should be baned from all radio. good to see QRZ folks agreeing on this. 73 & keep up the good work.W8CEI

[KT0DD]

I believe the "Free speech right" issue is actually limited to audio frequencies within the range of the human ear. I don't believe it has any bearing on retransmission of voice on RF frequencies, and in fact the first amendment does not protect you on the airwaves. The FCC rules govern the RF spectrum. So Glen Baxter is delusional in his beliefs. Bravo to QRZ for keeping filth like him off of this site. Now to get rid of the obsessive 1X2 callsign poster on here. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[W5MMX]

QRZ.com is a private repeater. #A HARDCOPY private repeater. #It's Fred's private hardcopy repeater. #Fred is it's control operator. #I accept his authority over it.

[k7abv]

K1MAN--serves no useful purpose , usually takes up space others could use better, I don't listen often, but notice he is often on taking up good space, I just turn the dial, but, really think he should be run off..my 2 cents worth.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[kj3n]

276 to 11 as of 1:28 utc.

I'm absolutely amazed he has 11 defenders. I figured about 3 at most.

Thank you for playing; drive through.....

[wx4qn]

Hi Fred,

The contents of the email you received from me regarding Mr. Baxter's amateur callsign on QRZ is being confirmed by the above posts. Thankyou for the exemplary conduct and integrity you have demonstrated. #

Bob #WD4AWO

[kz8o]

Hello everyone im glad to see all the posts about the bagdad boobcaster ive been after this fool for about two years. Well he has made a big mistake now and hes going to pay big time ill keep ya all posted watch the arrl enforcement letters comming soon. check this link
>http://www.qrz.com/callsign< type in nd8v and read all about the boobcaster.

73 nd8v

[N9CJT]

Quote[/b] (WB2WIK @ Nov. 03 2004,11:26)]Baxter's a lunatic. And it's a shame, because he was once a highly respected expert on maintenance, repair and upgrade of Collins equipment. # No longer. #Wonder what happened over the last 25 or 30 years...?
One common cause of such behavioral changes is dementia. For reasons ranging from Alzheimers and other senile dementias to toxic dementia due to xenoestrogens from microwaving food in plastic containers, the brain is damaged and ceases to function in a rational manner. As symptoms become more severe, incarceration in some form is often required. The form chosen by QRZ.com is a wholly appropriate response to the specific behaviors Glen has displayed.

[k1eea]

I'm trying to understand his broadcast schedule. #This is copied text from his web page:
http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/K1MAN14275/myhomepage/business.html

New K1MAN daily bulletin service schedule: 3.977 LSB and 14.275 MHz.
USB from 8:00 P.M. to 9:30 P.M and from 11 P.M. to 6:18 P.M the
following day. 3.890 MHz. amplitude modulation from 6:23 P.M. to
8:00 P.M and from 9:30 P.M. to 11:00 P.M.

Does this mean that he is broadcasting from 23:00 (11:00P.M.) to 18:18 (6:18P.M.)? #Wouldn't that mean that he is broadcasting for 19 hours and 18 minutes on 3.977LSB and 14.275MHz. #That seems like a lot of time for a radio show. #Is this legal to be broadcasting on two frequencies at the same time, not even considering the fact that he is transmitting one way communications? #Why can't the FCC take care of this guy once and for all?

If you haven't guessed already, I think QRZ.com has every right to ban this guy from their web site, as they have the right to ban anybody. #It's a PRIVATELY OWNED AND OPERATED forum. #This web site has nothing to do with "freedom of speech". #It's free provided that it fits in the context of the forum and as long as the owners of the forum decide not to cut you off. #If they don't like you, good bye. #They most definately have that right.

As far as K1MAN, in my opinion, he is a poor example of an amateur radio operator. #Why does ANYBODY need to take that much spectrum for that much time? #Giving an occaisional "QST" is one thing. #Trying to have your own radio "talk show" on the amateur bands is just plain wrong, inconsiderate, and stupid. #Just my opinion... #If you hate the ARRL, there are plenty of more constructive ways to go about your protest then to take away radio spectrum and enjoyment of the hobby from others.

Again, just my opinion. #But my question remains, why can't the FCC just revoke this guy's license?

73

[k4kio]

There seems to be virtual unanimity on K1MAN's participation in QRZ and add me to that concensus. But I would like to see some discussion on how he can be gotten off the air. Clearly, informal complaints to the FCC staff have not been effective.

Would it be legally feasible to file a formal complaint that would force the FCC to follow its own procedures?

How about filing a lawsuit against him on the malicious interference issue vis-a-vis the boy scout incident or something similar? If he were faced with some kind of punitive judgement, maybe he would decide to settle by leaving the airwaves. I would be willing to contribute to a fund to support such an effort.

Are there other approaches that are legal and effective?

#http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif Leo

[kc2egl]

The constitution of the United States gives us the basic freedom of speech. This DOES NOT give us the freedom to voice our opinions when and where-ever we wish. This is a private forum. Those who own it can set their rules and regulations to the operation of this site.
If you do not want to hear (or read) what someone has to say then don't listen. There is no law that states you must listen to someones opinion nor allow it to be published in your forum if you do not desire.
You have the right to write the op-ed page of any newspaper you desire. They have the right to NOT publish your opinion if they find that it does not suit their publication.

73's
Mike
KC2EGL

[K8SWL]

K1BOY needs to go back to law school and learn that private property (QRZ.COM) is exactly that "private property". He has no rights here unless the owner chooses to include him. For his general information, I won't allow him in my list of contacts on my computer. Nor will I put him on my Christmas Card list. Does that mean I am discriminating?

Give me a break.....

[n9vo]

Let the votes speak. Even W didnt get over 96%. K1Boy needs help. We all need to pray for him!

[w5jon]

There is one thing I am sure of, come next year when it is time for Mr. Baxter to renew his license, he will not have more "lawyers", "money", or "time" then the US Government. Just ask FZ.

So Mr. Baxter have a fun year ..... then stand by..... literally.

73,

John W5JON

[KB1GYQ]

Screw W1MAN. I sometimes don't agree with AA7BQ, but it's his site to do with as he wants, and W1MAN is a spoiled brat - if he wants advertizing, let him pay for it.

[KC9GGV]

As a newly licensed ham (but not new to amateur radio) I applaud Fred's decision. #Free speech is all well and good but outright defiance of the FCC and the rules and regulations of the Amateur Radio service must never be tolerated. #If we can't police our own. the FCC will terminate our service. #None of us want that. #Amatuer radio is a privilege not a right.

[nx6d]

I think delisting the guy and his links is a good idea.

He's obviously got some issues...

My only disconnect is AA7BQ responding to the posting. #Why bother? The guy's obviously whacked. We've now seen his website posted here and his broadcast schedule reprinted on this site. He gets a bunch of free publicity and the jollies that so many people dislike him.

I should have followed my own advice and not posted about this topic either...

I think we as amateurs spend far too much time getting wrapped around the axle about "bad actors". Guys like this station love the attention, and will continue to do what they do if we continue to respond...

WX7B

[na4it]

Recent picture seen at FCC office:

[KG4ZYY]

I heard him on the radio the other day and was left with the impression that he was broadcasting. This is a violation, I believe, of the FCC rules as it applies to amateurs. Why does the FCC let him get away with that?

[WD8OQX]

Rules are for a reason - can't follow the rules? You don't play! Even very small children get this....(& they'll tell you, too)

[wg5b]

As the majority has said, Enough is Enough! It is time for the FCC to take off the gloves and remove this public nuiscence from the air. JD WG5B

[K3EKO]

Quote[/b] (K3VR @ Nov. 03 2004,08:42)]The following is simply one man's opinion:

A wise man said to me recently, "Genius has it's limits, but stupidity is boundless."

If there is justice in the world, K1MAN will disappear from Ham Radio, hopefully on or before his license renewal date, which is less than a year from now. I don't believe he deserves to possess a license to operate, let alone be listed on a fine website like QRZ.

K1MAN has asked me to appear on his bulletin twice, perhaps because I've been a leader in the effort to have him removed from our airwaves, or perhaps because he thought it would increase listenership to what I believe resembles a commercial broadcast more than a legitimate ham radio bulletin.

It's difficult to know what motivates a person who seems unmotivated by common decency, logic, and reason.

I came to hear about K1MAN through his use of the Walter Cronkite voice ID, which Walter's lawyer asked K1MAN to stop using some years ago, because he felt it was a source of harm and damage to his name and reputation.

I also came to be familiar with Glenn Baxter due to his obnoxious tirades and childish fits of radio rage.

Later, I learned he had been instrumental in shipping donated communications equipment to someone whom many of us would call a terrorist.

On the island of Bougainville, a man named Francis Ona started a war. Ona was disgruntled over his share of profits from the mine where he worked. He blew up part of the Panguna Mine and the electric pylons that supported power transmission to the mine. By doing so, he began a ten year jungle revolution against Papua New Guinea, which devolved into a civil war, that consequently took many thousands of lives.

Glenn Baxter, K1MAN, with the assistance of a member of his IARN "Peace Corp" board of Directors, supplied the communications equipment to Ona, which enabled him to wage war against his own people, and the people of Papua New Guinea.

For that reason, I believe Glenn Baxter bears a great deal of responsibility for the brutality and bloodshed that occurred on the island, not to mention the economic despair that still grips its people.

I've told K1MAN my feelings many times. Apparently this caused him to reflect on his actions, and in typical fashion, he seemed to decide everyone else was to blame.

I believe the K1MAN bulletin is completely contrary to Part 97, section 97.1, the Basis and Purpose of amateur radio.

For example, considering, (a) Recognition and enhancement of the value of the amateur service to the public as a voluntary noncommercial communication service.

His bulletin constantly refers to K1MAN.COM, which seems to be substantially commercial in nature. The FCC believes his bulletin reflects his pecuniary interests, and so do I.

Considering (b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to contribute to the advancement of the radio art.

An unmodulated carrier was recently transmitted on 3.890 MHz for over two hours. There is no artistry or advancement of the radio art evident in polluting the airwaves with an unidentified carrier, or in selfishly preventing others from using our spectrum by monopolizing portions of it 24 hours per day, 7 days per week.

Considering ( c ) Encouragement and improvement of the amateur service through rules which provide for advancing skills in both the communication and technical phases of the art.

K1MAN's failure to observe even the simplest of rules degrades the communications of other amateurs. Transmitting dead air and overmodulated, recorded phone calls shows a distinct lack of skill. Using recorded phone calls without permission violates the laws of several states.

Considering (d) Expansion of the existing reservoir within the amateur radio service of trained operators, technicians, and electronics experts.

Jamming 60-80 Boy Scouts on 3.890 MHz and then blaming them for communicating on "his" frequency is bound to make them believe ham radio operators are rude and/or mentally unbalanced. Such behavior is inimical to expanding the reservoir of trained operators.

Considering (e) Continuation and extension of the amateur's unique ability to enhance international goodwill.

I happen to believe jamming Canadian Boy Scouts degrades international good will.

Calling the Chief Enforcement Officer at the FCC a "slimy little twerp" is not only rude, it's also contrary to (e) above.

Calling fellow hams "morons," "learning disabled," and other derogatory names severely degrades the amateur service and obviously fails to promote good amateur practice.

Similarly, casting aspersions on the pregnancy of Assistant US Attorney, Gail Fisk Malone and referring to her children as a "litter," is not only ungentlemanly, it's extremely crude.

Aside from being asinine and meaningless, threatening fellow hams with 'Felony Affidavit Complaints,' does nothing to promote amateur radio, and it is contrary to (e) and ( c ) above.

Promoting alleged racist - Richard Whiten, ex WB2OTK - as a "co-host" on his bulletin is in extremely poor taste, and it shows a lack of good judgement. This kind of provocative behavior incites disharmony among amateurs and degrades the service, and is also in opposition to (e) above.

Firing up a transmitter on top of hams in qso simply because he'd like to air his bulletin, constitutes childish behavior as well as deliberate interference.

Likewise, it does nothing to promote good will when the K1MAN bulletin fires up on top of international contesters on 20 meters. It merely shows rudeness, a complete ignorance of the rules and traditions of amateur radio, and a distinct lack of consideration for others.

In addition, that practice is also contrary to the spirit of ( c ) and (e) above.

It's high time the FCC showed Glenn Baxter the door, and it's time for us to report his apparent rules infractions whenever we witness them. I'm happy to see that QRZ recognizes what I've believed for a long, long time.

Differing opinions can be sent to my email address at K3VR at hushmail.com
I am glad to see that QRZ has decided to take the position and BAN K1MAN from this fine website. His daily broadcasts QRM ongoing QSOs on 14.275 MHz as well as other frequencies. I can't understand why the Commission hasn't acted on this guy. He definietly needs to go!!

[NJ5R]

Normally being against selective censorship, I would, in this case, wholeheartedly agree with QRZ's conviction. #I have heard and read k1man's information and I've come to realize his thoughts are "iarn-a-ganda", that is, an angry, narrow and vindictive group of personal attacks designed to discredit the establishment and popular ham precepts. # The broadcasts are embarassing enough to make you turn off the radio if someone else enters the room. # If this guy wants to talk to himself, he should get off our band, and get a gmrs license, (no offense to gmrs folks intended), or something short range. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[n0zu]

<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>
It is a good think that you people at Qrz have did.

Any one that plays the same recording day after day hour after hour, is just asking for everyone to be cussing them out.

you call K1man's 800 number and you do not get a person all you get is an answering mechine.

so you know it is recorded,

if K1MAN is being helpful to the ham's out here
I would like to know how he is helping,
by playing his recordings of of hams cussing him out,

if anything Baxter K1MAN is being a hinderance to hams
and tring to make everyone turn off there radio and put them away or sell them.

Baxter get a life
this is no way to make friends.
make your show helpful for the hams,
not a bunck of people fighting

I called you one time because i felt sorry for you when I heard what was going on with people talking over the news line you were putting out.
your show was only about a hour or hour in a half long.
You said maybe I should run it again just to piss them off,for talking over you.

now you are taking over frequencys by playing stuff that makes no sents.

I hope the FCC fines you to no end and when you get into jail that big bubba give you what you have comming
when you pick up the bar of soap you dropped.</span></span>

[kc9aae]

Really, this fellow is whacked..., and trying to make a profit off his
wallowing in the form of a newsletter! ha!! #See what happens when
you don't get out of the "shack" once in awhile?

[n0zu]

just think
in one more year
he looses his ticket
I bet the FCC will not give it back to him

I have his address
some one get a helacopter and fly over his antennas and knock them down

Here is his imformation if one wants to do so---

Callsign File Number Applicant Type Service
K1MAN 9510170641 I HA
Licensee Name Address PO Box City
BAXTER, GLENN A RR 1 BOX 776 #BELGRADE LAKES
State Zip Grant Date Expire Date
ME 04918 Oct 17, 1995 Oct 17, 2005
NEPA Flag Trustee License ID Previous Callsign Operator Class
# E
Group Previous Operator Class Eligibility Code Trustee Ind
C # #
Trustee_license_id

bozo on tv was better than this clown

[w5hze]

Well done- K1MAN's presence here would cause most folks to pack up and leave. #Besides, QRZ.COM can darn well ban anyone, for any reason or for no reason at all if they so choose- it is privately owned and controlled.

Baxter fails to recognize that whenever someone exercises their right to free speech, they should also be prepared to accept any consequences. #Odd how many folks feel that the right of free speech somehow assures some vague "protection" against any negative response to their words . . . anyone remember the reaction of country music fans after the Dixie Chicks incident in the U.K. (following 9/11), and how the girls felt they had been terribly wronged? #Same principle.

No one has the right to be heard (as someone else said), nor do they have the right of protection against lawful consequences when their message & behavior offends others.

Well, anyhow, the end consequence of Baxter's behavior is that he is now unwelcome everywhere. #The first and best protection against Baxter is to "turn the dial", the second is NEVER let him through your door.

Now, his ham license is NOT a right- that is a privilege that should be revoked by the FCC. #I remain astonished that he has gotten away with so much for so long.

73 . . . Ron WB5HZE

[NJ5R]

Forgot to mention:

Baxter, you're a putz!

[KF6WTC]

Do whatever you wish Fred. I personally have found the quality of your site tainted. There is a right way to do things and a wrong one. You seem to take the wrong choice.

There was a time QRZ was my home page that I visited everyday. You lost quite a bit of my respect sometime ago.

Just your choice to "ask" others opinion is wrong. Why do you need others to validate your actions?

There was a time you delisted me once for no other reason then because I "respectfully" disagreed with you. Your reason was simply because you were trying to start a new service and the pionts I brought up in my post scared you.

You have changed since this all started Fred and I have found that the quality of QRZ has changed with it.

Wow. I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database. Was that really necessary? Are you going to do that to me now because I disagree with you? I can understand taking away his ablity to post. To do what you did seems more like the tantrum of a child.

[K7JAZ]

Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 03 2004,23:32)]Do whatever you wish Fred. #I personally have found the quality of your site tainted. #There is a right way to do things and a wrong one. #You seem to take the wrong choice.

There was a time QRZ was my home page that I visited everyday. #You lost quite a bit of my respect sometime ago.

Just your choice to "ask" others opinion is wrong. #Why do you need others to validate your actions?

There was a time you delisted me once for no other reason then because I "respectfully" disagreed with you. #Your reason was simply because you were trying to start a new service and the pionts I brought up in my post scared you.

You have changed since this all started Fred and I have found that the quality of QRZ has changed with it.

Wow. #I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database. #Was that really necessary? #Are you going to do that to me now because I disagree with you? #I can understand taking away his ablity to post. #To do what you did seems more like the tantrum of a child.
"Wow. #I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database"

What did you think this thread was about? #Yeesh! #The only thing I see that resembles a child's tantrum, is your entire post, WTC. #Yes, Fred can de-list you or anyone if he feels like it, but as you can see, about 95% of voters in the above poll agree that the likes of K1MAN isn't wanted here. #Not just because Fred "doesn't agree with him" either; but because Baxter goes very much further than that. Also, a website owner is responsible for its' content, that means Fred could be held responsible for Baxters' insane ranting on his bio page, and I think removing ALL of Baxters' BS from this and any site is a wise move. #This site isn't a state-funded public-service, this is a private site, it belongs to Fred and he can darn well de-list anyone he disapproves of. #Whether it's Baxter or Osama Bin Laden, if Fred doesn't like who he is and what he stands for, he has the right to ban him from his site and I would do the same, wouldn't you?

If you feel this site is "tainted", by all means, leave! No one is forcing you to be here.

[k9po]

K1MAN has the right to say what ever he wants to on HIS web site and to a lesser extent on the air (subject to FCC Part97 limitation). I have the right to not listen to his drivel and you have the right to not deal with him at all.

It is your website to do with as you please. The question now is will you delist everyone that you disagree with? If you do, and I am fine with that, at what point will your site become useless as it will not contain a complete database.

Your current policy is to allow us to list a weblink and a simple bio. Is the real issue that K1MAN wants more on your site?

There is a saying:
Don't wrestle with pigs. You'll get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

This is the problem with K1MAN, he is a meglomaniac physcho that really needs some professional help. Don't give him any assistance with his paranoid dillusions.

73 es gud luck
K9PO

[KF6WTC]

Quote[/b] (K7JAZ @ Nov. 04 2004,00:15)]Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 03 2004,23:32)]Do whatever you wish Fred. I personally have found the quality of your site tainted. There is a right way to do things and a wrong one. You seem to take the wrong choice.

There was a time QRZ was my home page that I visited everyday. You lost quite a bit of my respect sometime ago.

Just your choice to "ask" others opinion is wrong. Why do you need others to validate your actions?

There was a time you delisted me once for no other reason then because I "respectfully" disagreed with you. Your reason was simply because you were trying to start a new service and the pionts I brought up in my post scared you.

You have changed since this all started Fred and I have found that the quality of QRZ has changed with it.

Wow. I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database. Was that really necessary? Are you going to do that to me now because I disagree with you? I can understand taking away his ablity to post. To do what you did seems more like the tantrum of a child.
"Wow. I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database"

What did you think this thread was about? Yeesh! The only thing I see that resembles a child's tantrum, is your entire post, WTC. Yes, Fred can de-list you or anyone if he feels like it, but as you can see, about 95% of voters in the above poll agree that the likes of K1MAN isn't wanted here. Not just because Fred "doesn't agree with him" either; but because Baxter goes very much further than that. Also, a website owner is responsible for its' content, that means Fred could be held responsible for Baxters' insane ranting on his bio page, and I think removing ALL of Baxters' BS from this and any site is a wise move. This site isn't a state-funded public-service, this is a private site, it belongs to Fred and he can darn well de-list anyone he disapproves of. Whether it's Baxter or Osama Bin Laden, if Fred doesn't like who he is and what he stands for, he has the right to ban him from his site and I would do the same, wouldn't you?

If you feel this site is "tainted", by all means, leave! No one is forcing you to be here.
You have the right to your opinion. Just like me.

You can go to bed knowing that you look better in Fred's eyes.

Feel better?

[KF6WTC]

Quote[/b] (k9po @ Nov. 04 2004,01:08)]K1MAN has the right to say what ever he wants to on HIS web site and to a lesser extent on the air (subject to FCC Part97 limitation). I have the right to not listen to his drivel and you have the right to not deal with him at all.

It is your website to do with as you please. The question now is will you delist everyone that you disagree with? If you do, and I am fine with that, at what point will your site become useless as it will not contain a complete database.

Your current policy is to allow us to list a weblink and a simple bio. Is the real issue that K1MAN wants more on your site?

There is a saying:
Don't wrestle with pigs. You'll get dirty and the pig will enjoy it.

This is the problem with K1MAN, he is a meglomaniac physcho that really needs some professional help. Don't give him any assistance with his paranoid dillusions.

73 es gud luck
K9PO
Thank you. This is how I feel on the matter as well.

[w4amp]

Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 04 2004,04:10)]Quote[/b] (K7JAZ @ Nov. 04 2004,00:15)]Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 03 2004,23:32)]Do whatever you wish Fred. I personally have found the quality of your site tainted. There is a right way to do things and a wrong one. You seem to take the wrong choice.

There was a time QRZ was my home page that I visited everyday. You lost quite a bit of my respect sometime ago.

Just your choice to "ask" others opinion is wrong. Why do you need others to validate your actions?

There was a time you delisted me once for no other reason then because I "respectfully" disagreed with you. Your reason was simply because you were trying to start a new service and the pionts I brought up in my post scared you.

You have changed since this all started Fred and I have found that the quality of QRZ has changed with it.

Wow. I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database. Was that really necessary? Are you going to do that to me now because I disagree with you? I can understand taking away his ablity to post. To do what you did seems more like the tantrum of a child.
"Wow. I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database"

What did you think this thread was about? Yeesh! The only thing I see that resembles a child's tantrum, is your entire post, WTC. Yes, Fred can de-list you or anyone if he feels like it, but as you can see, about 95% of voters in the above poll agree that the likes of K1MAN isn't wanted here. Not just because Fred "doesn't agree with him" either; but because Baxter goes very much further than that. Also, a website owner is responsible for its' content, that means Fred could be held responsible for Baxters' insane ranting on his bio page, and I think removing ALL of Baxters' BS from this and any site is a wise move. This site isn't a state-funded public-service, this is a private site, it belongs to Fred and he can darn well de-list anyone he disapproves of. Whether it's Baxter or Osama Bin Laden, if Fred doesn't like who he is and what he stands for, he has the right to ban him from his site and I would do the same, wouldn't you?

If you feel this site is "tainted", by all means, leave! No one is forcing you to be here.
You have the right to your opinion. Just like me.

You can go to bed knowing that you look better in Fred's eyes.

Feel better?
Four more years, yes we all feel much better.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[K7JAZ]

Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 04 2004,01:10)]Quote[/b] (K7JAZ @ Nov. 04 2004,00:15)]Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 03 2004,23:32)]Do whatever you wish Fred. #I personally have found the quality of your site tainted. #There is a right way to do things and a wrong one. #You seem to take the wrong choice.

There was a time QRZ was my home page that I visited everyday. #You lost quite a bit of my respect sometime ago.

Just your choice to "ask" others opinion is wrong. #Why do you need others to validate your actions?

There was a time you delisted me once for no other reason then because I "respectfully" disagreed with you. #Your reason was simply because you were trying to start a new service and the pionts I brought up in my post scared you.

You have changed since this all started Fred and I have found that the quality of QRZ has changed with it.

Wow. #I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database. #Was that really necessary? #Are you going to do that to me now because I disagree with you? #I can understand taking away his ablity to post. #To do what you did seems more like the tantrum of a child.
"Wow. #I just noticed you "edited" this mans callsign from the callsign database"

What did you think this thread was about? #Yeesh! #The only thing I see that resembles a child's tantrum, is your entire post, WTC. #Yes, Fred can de-list you or anyone if he feels like it, but as you can see, about 95% of voters in the above poll agree that the likes of K1MAN isn't wanted here. #Not just because Fred "doesn't agree with him" either; but because Baxter goes very much further than that. Also, a website owner is responsible for its' content, that means Fred could be held responsible for Baxters' insane ranting on his bio page, and I think removing ALL of Baxters' BS from this and any site is a wise move. #This site isn't a state-funded public-service, this is a private site, it belongs to Fred and he can darn well de-list anyone he disapproves of. #Whether it's Baxter or Osama Bin Laden, if Fred doesn't like who he is and what he stands for, he has the right to ban him from his site and I would do the same, wouldn't you?

If you feel this site is "tainted", by all means, leave! No one is forcing you to be here.
You have the right to your opinion. #Just like me.

You can go to bed knowing that you look better in Fred's eyes.

Feel better?
I really don't care how I look in anyone's eyes. I simply stated what I felt and what I know to be right. You may believe whatever blows your skirt up.

[KF6WTC]

Quote[/b] (K7JAZ @ Nov. 04 2004,00:15)]I really don't care how I look in anyone's eyes. I simply stated what I felt and what I know to be right. You may believe whatever blows your skirt up.

Ahhhh what you "know" is right. You mean your opinion.

I'm sorry that my post to Fred, and how he runs his board, upset you so much. My post must have the ring of truth to it for it to have upset you so much.

You don't know me. Have never heard me on the radio. Have never seen a post by me, yet you feel you know me well enough to hate me and flame me by my 1 post. You have also gotten off-topic to the main piont of this thread.

To clarify: I don't doubt K1MAN deserved what he got, but I don't feel it is QRZs job to change the output of the FCC Database as they see fit. This guy is still a ham, right or wrong. It is Fred's choice to do what he wishes. QRZ's database is just not a creditable source of information anymore.

[K7JAZ]

Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 04 2004,02:14)]Ahhhh what you "know" is right. #You mean your opinion.

I'm sorry that my post to Fred, and how he runs his board, upset you so much. #My post must have the ring of truth to it for it to have upset you so much. #

You don't know me. #Have never heard me on the radio. #Have never seen a post by me, yet you feel you know me well enough to hate me and flame me by my 1 post. #You have also gotten off-topic to the main piont of this thread.
You give yourself waaay too much credit. #What you say doesn't have a ring of truth in it, only the ring of annoying ignorance and typical arrogance. #

You say it's only my opinion? #It is not an opinion, it is a FACT that Fred is responsible for the content of QRZ.com. #It is a well-documented FACT that Baxter is abusing his license, NOT an opinion. #It's a FACT that Baxter's beliefs and practices are illegal and extreme. #Now why should Fred or anyone else have to accept, condone and even HOST his BS?

Also, how would you know if I've heard you on the radio, or read your previous posts or not? #Gimme a break.#Another typically ignorant and presumptious statement. Further, Fred didn't "change the output of the FCC Database". #How could he? #He only took K1MAN's listing out of QRZ. #You don't even know what you're arguing about.

Someone said "don't wrestle with pigs", that's good advice and for that reason I'm through wasting my time with you.

[n1mku]

K1man is providing a valuable service to ham radio. I listen when I can. I also listen to the crew on 3980 am (they oppose k1man and jam his transmission) this is sad. I enjoy these am operators,they are informative and very funny and entertaining. I also like to listen to the k1man broadcast. I think k1man should be able to transmit his service for the ham community without all the needless jamming. I disagree with you, I think k1man provides a valuable service to the amateur community. I hope you do not kick me off your site because I disagree with you. I believe K1MAN is doing most of the right things. I do not want the FCC to take our ham radio frequencies away. Do you know of any other news bullitens on our ham bands that are providing information to us? I don't:0

[kc0jez]

Two questions and a comment:
Why didn't the fact that K1MAN had to learn morse code screen him from getting a license? Part of the argument has always been the learning code will keep the nuts off the air. (Really now....someone had to turn this into a code dabate, right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Maybe a dumb question..but...why is it W1AW bulletins are legal, that the Ham Radio News I often hear on repeaters is legal? Can anyone simply start a legit Ham News program, publish a sched and start broadcasting?
And..when you get right down to it...isn't the ARRL a commercial venture? There are plenty of folks on salary there.
And finally....a few zillion posts back, someone referred to K1MAN as a "retard". That is an insult to the developmentally disabled.
73's and see you on 6
Tim

[k3pd]

Why doesn't everyone contact K1MAN and request FREE space on his web page to lambast him with his own fermented vermen waste!

Will he practice as he preaches!

One way street to nowhere.... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[W0UZR]

I suppose I'm repeting what all kinds of people said, But I'm not a fast reader. WOW, 12 pages in less than 12 hours. Talk about a hot topic.

I TOTALY agree that you shouldn't acknowledge Ted Basxtered at all. He doesn't Follow the law, the rules of part 97, or excersize any courticy what so ever. He is not a good example of ham radio, does not excercize any good amature radio practices.

2 times I wrote to the FCC and told them that I was using the frequency and this prick came on with his broadcast and put an end to my conversation.

And I think that this is a shining example of the FCC, Hollingsworth, and company's not doing their job also. How many years has this prick been ruining ham radio? There are the same QRMers that are doing their thing ever since I got on HF and their still there, k1man is still there. So doesn't that prove that the FCC is doing NO enforcement at all? It sure does.

[ON6ZK]

It is ridiculuous what this K1MAN is doing.
I send him emails with questions but he sends long return mails with idiot reply's.
He is just spoiling the bands and nobody is interested.
I wrote to FCC an email with the question if this is all legal what they are doing there. They are working on the case was the short answer.

I hope this sick guy will loose his license and that they HAMBANDS are used for what they are supposed to be used for.

This is my point of vieuw. Sorry for my bad English !
You can see my picture on QRZ.COM and the things I'm interested in. I'm; a real ham not an idiot like K1MAN !

HANS

ON6ZK

[wb4tjh]

There was a time when I may not have agreed with K1MAN, but I respected his right to his opnions. But over the past few months, I have come to the conclusion that he has degenerated to a state of near lunacy with his rantings and ravings and slanderous name-calling. So reluctantly, I now agree that the FCC is in the process of taking the proper actions. After listening to Mr. Baxter's continuous tirade over the last few months, I have concluded he's a NUT case.

[wd8bil]

In respect to the ARRL...
(1)they do provide a service
(2) their bulletins are short
(3) they don't totally kill a QSO.
A short standby and the QSOs running again.
They're FAR FAR easier to work around then the Belgrade Bastard !

[kf1z]

I agree with QRZ not allowing him web-space to air out his mis-guided views.....
He has plenty of other, more suitable forums to do that..

Yes, anyone can broadcast bullitens, and information regarding amateur radio....if you follow very simple guidelines.....



Bruce G
KE1LP

[N3NOP]

Baxter is a nut case. We do not need him degrading this
wonderfull hobby. This is supposed to be a fun. We do not need someone on a power trip. I hope to work every one on 10 meters and trade 10-10 numbers and check in with the 40 meter gang on E.C.A.R.S. on 3.955!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W1NK]

I can't help but think that the perceived lack of action by the FCC is for good reason.... namely they are building a case against K1MAN. #

From what I've read about this nut-job, if the FCC is going to yank or refuse to renew his ticket, you can be sure he'll show up to his hearing with lawyer(s) in tow. #They need to have a rock solid case against him.

Assuming they are building a case, if those who have been directly affected by his "broadcasts" were to document the events and submit them to the FCC it would certainly give their case more merit.

I know it's been done before, but #the more documentation received could turn what the FCC sees as a just handful of complaints into a truckload.

[KD4LEI]

I got a taste of what you all are talking about when I heard MAN on 14.277 a week ago for the first time. This guy thinks the FCC cannot do anything to him and starts talking about the court cases he is wanting to push against people.

The guy is fruity and frankly I hope he will be off the air permanently before too long.

[MW0HRD]

What on earth is this man doing. He sounds like he's running a commercial station on 20m. you cannot just take a frequency over and turn it in to a comercial station.He sould get a commecial licence.
MW0HRD

PS- if qrz removed K1MAN they must have had good reason.Its their right to do so #they have given me nothing but help. Thanks qrz. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[W1XZ]

I am glad QRZ put Baxter in the hopper. #It is the right of the owner to do so. #On a broader scope however the whole K1MAN bulletin is an interesting phemon. #Baxter has the right to say what he wants; to a degree. #
His transmissions do contain some interesting amateur related information. #They also contain rants and arguementary phone calls ins that have absolutely no place in a radio related bulletin service. #This is what differs from the league's transmissions. #
I think the reason the feds haven't done anything to him is beacuse he lives close to the edge and hasn't crossed it often enough to make a penalty worth the effort. #
Somewhere someplace along the line Baxter has slipped a cog or two and the cars now don't all line up. #
Has anyone had an actual on the air conversation with Glen outside of his call ins in the last few years? #The last time I heard him was on a swap net 15 years ago.
I am pretty sure he spends most of his time adjusting his Napoleon hat, dreaming up law suits, and detuning his transmitter for his next broadcast.

[wb4tjh]

Some years ago I did not always agree with K1MAN, but I did support his right to his opinion. But after listening to him over the past few months, I have concluded that he has degenerated into semi-lunacy with his rantings and ravings. The name-calling and slanderous things he says about people and Mr. Hollingsworth (hope I spelled it correctly), force me to conclude that Mr. Baxter has become a NUT case. Therefore, I support the decision of QRZ.com and hope the FCC can do what it needs to do.

[ke4pjw]

All I have to say about this, is as follows.

Mr. Baxter is claiming that QRZ.COM is infringing his "right" to "Free Speech" because he has been banned at QRZ.com while concurrently questioning Mr. Hollingsworth's legal prowess.

That is simply hilarious!

[W9GRN]

Quote[/b] (kc0jez @ Nov. 04 2004,04:21)]Why didn't the fact that K1MAN had to learn morse code screen him from getting a license? Part of the argument has always been the learning code will keep the nuts off the air. (Really now....someone had to turn this into a code dabate, right?
Total sadness and totally off the subject. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KU2S]

While the QRZ website is indeed private property, and as such the administrators and owner of the site have the right to refuse access to the system's forums to anyone, the callsign database is very often considered to be inclusive of all (at least all US) active licensees by many. #For that reason, K1MAN's call should be reactivated in the callsign database. #Continue to restrict access to the forums if you like, but in fairness to the other hams out there, the ones who expect a COMPLETE callsign database, re-list the call.

Thank you.

**EDITOR'S NOTE**

K1MAN is on QRZ. If you took the time to look him up, you would see his call sign and a link to the FCC Database that gives his License information. Our actions in no way reflect he is not currently licensed.

[kb9lei]

If someone rants and there is no forum to post it to, did it make any noise?

When I registered at QRZ, I agreed to abide by certain rules as set forth by the owner/operator. If I am warned that I'm violating those rules and must change to remain a member, I make the conscious decision to change or risk the alternative. Evidently, this poster repeatedly decided he was bigger than the "MAN".

It's just like the frequency knob on any device, you can change it. Only this time, the programmer is changing the frequency. Thanks

[ws4y]

K1MAN does have the right of free speech but that does
not mean QRZ.com or anyone else is required to provide
his soap box. BTW, has anyone ever heard K1MAN come
on 14.275 and ask "is this frequency in use"?

[aj4rk]

I thoroughly support your position on this issue and applaud the proper manner in which you have handled it. Keep up the good work.

[n0zu]

Quote[/b] (n1mku @ Nov. 04 2004,04:16)]K1man is providing a valuable service to ham radio. I listen when I can. I also listen to the crew on 3980 am (they oppose k1man and jam his transmission) this is sad. I enjoy these am operators,they are informative and very funny and entertaining. I also like to listen to the k1man broadcast. I think k1man should be able to transmit his service for the ham community without all the needless jamming. I disagree with you, I think k1man provides a valuable service to the amateur community. I hope you do not kick me off your site because I disagree with you. I believe K1MAN is doing most of the right things. I do not want the FCC to take our ham radio frequencies away. Do you know of any other news bullitens on our ham bands that are providing information to us? I don't:0

<span style='color:blue'>{K1man is providing a valuable service to ham radio} --</span><span style='color:red'>--
If you call playing the same recording over and over again of bitch sections with other hams a valuable service--you must be related to Baxter.</span>

<span style='color:blue'>{they oppose k1man and jam his transmission}--</span><span style='color:red'>--
They oppose K1MAN because his severice is a recording and does not make any sence, he plays the same thing for hours and days at a time.</span>

<span style='color:blue'>{I enjoy these am operators,they are informative and very funny and entertaining. I also like to listen to the k1man broadcast.}</span>
<span style='color:red'>If you think it is funny and intertaining to listen to Baxter (K1MAN) brake more rules by playing profane words like bastard, hell, dam,ass, and other words that are aginst FCC RULES and REGS,
What Baxter is playing is recordings and those recording could be omited from #being played on the air but Baxter, just keeps on playing them.

you see tv and radio can use those words They are (Brodcasters).
We as hams ar not to use those words.
when you took your test for ham radio it was in rules and reg that you studied to take your test, that profain words are not to be used on the air.</span>

<span style='color:blue'>{I believe K1MAN is doing most of the right things. I do not want the FCC to take our ham radio frequencies away.}</span>
<span style='color:red'>If you think that K1MAN Baxter is doing the right thing, that is your opinion,
as for the FCC to take our ham radio frequencies away, It is this kind of ( BS ) that is going to make the FCC take them away, from everyone fighting with each other.</span> http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KB1LQC]

When everyohne follows the rules, we all get to play happily ever after...

[W0LC]

Quote[/b] (W9GRN @ Nov. 04 2004,07:37)]Quote[/b] (kc0jez @ Nov. 04 2004,04:21)]Why didn't the fact that K1MAN had to learn morse code screen him from getting a license? Part of the argument has always been the learning code will keep the nuts off the air. (Really now....someone had to turn this into a code dabate, right?
Total sadness and totally off the subject. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Have to agree. #What a stupid and asinine remark.

Like to see where it was ever written or truly argued (rationally and intelligently) that passing a code test keeps "nuts" off HF. #

Get a grip and get real and stick to the posting.

As to K1MAN: QRZ is not an "open" website. They can choose to limit, restrict, set standards contrary to whatever anyone thinks. It is a privately maintained website. If K1MAN doesn't like it (or anyone else) go over to one of the other sites that will accept him.

I don't see an issue here.

[ac7dx]

I sent an email to Jack at Buckmaster Ham Call and he has locked K1MAN on his site. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ne1ll]

Free speech is not extended to slander and hate speach. QRZ is a private entity entitled to further it's position as it sees fit. K1MAN has it's own web site which has some very good items on it. While I don't agree with K1MAN on all issues there are some concerning his opinions I agree. Most of the people he opposes are doing their best and any problems are not because of malice. Perhaps anger management may be an alternative. QRZ should allow him to make an acceptable bio post.

[WA9SVD]

As undesirable as this fellow may be, his call should be listed as it appears in the FCC database. THAT should be the limit; no more, no less. He has no right to demand (or expect) anything more, but the callsign IS part of the public record.

[nw5m]

Fred,

It is your personal site. You can allow/disallow whomever you like. This really isn't a freedom of speach issue, it is a private ownership issue.

73,
Mike
NW5M

[N9CHZ]

Just took a look at K1MAN's American Amateur Radio Associations web site and was suprised to learn that Universal Radio, Glen Martin and Force 12 Antennas will give you a discount on product or shipping if you use his AARA credit card !!!!! I can't belive these people would want to be associated with this nut case.... Look's like I will not be buying products from those companies.

[WF7I]

I have not listened to K1MAN for several years, but from the descriptions on here, it sounds like he's one can short of a sixpack.

That being the case, I would not allow him to post on QRZ and I would deny him the ability to put a bio on his listing perhaps, but just for the sake of keeping a consistant database, I'd retain his callsign. There are other hams who have requested their calls be removed from QRZ because they have some argument or issue with QRZ. I also think that these calls should be retained. Otherwise, as others have pointed out, QRZ is no longer a consistant database.

[KD7PKP]

Is it me, or are their more nuts in the world today?

[ag4hy]

Quote[/b] (kd5foy @ Nov. 02 2004,16:33)]I strongly agree with the decision taken by QRZ to delist
K1MAN. #Now if we could get Riley to quit using the kid
gloves when dealing with Baxter and issue a very large
NAL and confiscate his equipment we could be rid of this
embarrassment and black eye to Ham Radio.
hello de ag4hy
ok i agree 1000% with fred as to k1man, right on, top-top.
question: why not lets all chip in and buy Riely a pair of boxing gloves with a horse shoe sewin in each, on the side facing out just for k1man?/ http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif
just a thought http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K5UJ]

Did the Radio Amateur Callbook ever erase someone from its pages for being a lid?

Does your local telephone directory remove people for being bad neighbors?

As a callsign directory, the criteria for listing should be only whether or not an individual is licensed. If qrz.com elects to delist a licensed ham then it makes the decision to turn a directory service into an editorial page. That's fine so far as qrz's being privately owned goes, however it calls into question the integrity of the database. Who knows who else will be delisted and for what reason? Perhaps me, for writing this? I think the usual standards for content on qrz's pages, to avoid libel claims among other things, should be enforced, but all hams should be listed with at least the minimal amount of directory information, as long as they are licensed.

[n2ow]

who is K1MAN anyway?

ra9usu@hotmail.com

Quote[/b] (KC0KBH @ Nov. 03 2004,15:21)]Ok. #We need to work towards getting this retard off the air. #He is such a rude and disrespectful moron.
Folks,

I am in full agreement that Glen is a detriment to the amateur radio service, but as a former mental health worker, I must point out that the use of terms such as moron and retard are perjorative ones normally used to diminish the humanity of persons with serious disabilities. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I'm certain that we can find more appropriate and precise language to describe this person. 'Criminal' is one which easily comes to mind. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


Thank you so much, and,

73

Charles, VE3HBB

[KF6WTC]

There goes the quality of the QRZ callsign CD. It's now worth about as much as all the AOL and Earthlink CDs I get in the mail.

[wd8bil]

Quote[/b] ]As a callsign directory, the criteria for listing should be only whether or not an individual is licensed. If qrz.com elects to delist a licensed ham then it makes the decision to turn a directory service into an editorial page.

ya know guyz .... ifn ya ain't likin' the way Fred runs his store... open your own !!!!
This is not the official callsign directory of the FCC. And whether or not the callbook ever erased anybody is of no concern here.
If you wanna know all about Mr. Baxter go to his website !! its not like Fred has blown any reference to him into oblivian !!!
Grow up !! He gone from here.

[ke0vh]

Unfortunate that we have to deal with people and attitudes such as K1MAN. Obviously he is USING the ham radio hobby to further his own interests. It is rediculous that he is even allowed a license when it is blatantly obvious that he is broadcasting. I hope that the FCC removes his license, equipment, or whatever they can do within the bounds of legality. I support the QRZ.com decision fully. Just like there is NO "separation of church and state", there is NO right to be heard where ever you please.

[w4amp]

Quote[/b] (ve3hbb @ Nov. 04 2004,14:16)]Quote[/b] (KC0KBH @ Nov. 03 2004,15:21)]Ok. We need to work towards getting this retard off the air. He is such a rude and disrespectful moron.
Folks,

I am in full agreement that Glen is a detriment to the amateur radio service, but as a former mental health worker, I must point out that the use of terms such as moron and retard are perjorative ones normally used to diminish the humanity of persons with serious disabilities. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif I'm certain that we can find more appropriate and precise language to describe this person. 'Criminal' is one which easily comes to mind. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


Thank you so much, and,

73

Charles, VE3HBB
I agree. Equating Baxter to those groups is an insult to them.

[kz8o]

Right on the boobster is on the way out and thanks fred for taking the bio off on ve7kfm a just as big of nut as glen boobster. check my bio for k1man info...

73 nd8v http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kz8o]

From: Brian Crow
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 1:12 PM
To: Riley Hollingsworth
Subject: Regarding felony violations


Dear Riley,

Since K1MAN is currently broadcasting disinformation 24 hours a day;
some hams will be confused about the law related to interference.

Is there anything illegal about using a frequency before a scheduled
K1MAN bulletin, and are hams required to move off frequency if they are
already using it, simply because he wants to broadcast his bulletin?

With your permission, I'd like to post your reply on the internet.

Thanks, K3VR

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: RE: Regarding felony violations
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2004 13:53:02 -0500
From: Riley Hollingsworth
To: Brian Crow


A posted schedule is meaningless, and does not give him any right to
reserve a frequency. Any licensed Amateur station on a frequency at any
time does not have to move off when K1MAN starts up on the frequency.
See the attached letter, April, 2004, paragraph 11. All frequencies are
shared. Moreover, it is not deliberate interference for the Amateur
station to stay on when K1MAN transmissions start up on top of him. This
may be quoted or posted as anyone feels necessary.


Paragraph 11:

"Regarding deliberate interference, we receive continuing complaints, and
our monitoring verifies,
that your transmissions start up on top of existing communications of
individual licensees as well as nets such as the Salvation Army Team
Emergency Radio Network. Such operation constitutes deliberate
interference. Stations engaging in ongoing communications are not obligated
to stop transmitting when K1MAN wants to start transmitting on a frequency,
and complainants are so advised by the Commission. You appear to believe
that the publication of a transmission schedule gives you the right to begin
transmitting on a certain frequency at a certain time, even if the frequency
is occupied. It does not."

Paragraph 12:

"All frequencies in the Amateur Radio Service are shared-no frequency is
assigned for the exclusive
use of any station, and your Amateur station has no greater rights to a
frequency at any particular time than any other Amateur station."

[kf1z]

Quote[/b] (n2ow @ Nov. 04 2004,11:05)]who is K1MAN anyway?

ra9usu@hotmail.com
Listen to 14.275 mhz, 3.977 mhz, and 3.890 mhz (am)...Listen for a while to this supposed bulletin service..
Then you'll hear for yourself who's being talked about here...

Also see: www.k1man.com
for more laughs.

[k1lwi]

i think k1man call be listed on qrz call lists but keep him from posting qrz forums he is still a lic ham this my 2nd on this #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
wendell 73

[na4c]

I agree with the QRZ decision 100%. Maybe Mr. Hollingworth will
eventually assist K1MAN in understanding that an amateur radio
license is a privilage not a right. Want to hear another person
who also does almost the same thing. Try 7.030 CW any of the
day.
73
W4TDB:(

[KG4ZPN]

"There's no such thing as an 'authority.' They've been wrong in the past and will be in the future. Which means they're wrong now." -- Carl Sagan

[kk7jo]

I just heard this fellow, k1man, on the air calling CQ on top of the Maritime Mobile Service Net on 14.300. Trying to be the friendly ham I came here to look up his call and hopefully his email address to let him know what he had done politely.

On second thought, I had better drop the idea. When I saw this post on the front page here on QRZ, I realized that there are bigger things afoot than I want to be involved in.

Thanks for taking action, Frank, and thanks for letting me know what is going on with this fellow.

Unfortunately, even the best of us can pop a cork. I hope the guy gets some help before something really, really, bad happens to him!

73 de kk7jo, Kerry

[n7spy]

Quote[/b] (KF6WTC @ Nov. 04 2004,11:17)]There goes the quality of the QRZ callsign CD. #It's now worth about as much as all the AOL and Earthlink CDs I get in the mail.
Ummmmm...

Fred did NOT de-list K1MAN entirely: whoever wants to QSL/contact him can do so.. by click ONE MORE TIME and going to his FCC information page.

If you think that the fact that you've got to click ONE MORE TIME to get his information is too much trouble.. that's your opinion...

... and if you don't want to buy the QRZ Directory because all of a sudden, in YOUR opinion, it has become as worthless as an AOL/Earthlink CD... that's ALSO your decision to make...

... all I have to say is.. "more for me!!" http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif and for many other people who will still buy the QRZ Directory.

Also, just like WD8BIL said, the QRZ Directory is not intended to be THE FCC ULS Depository. So if you don't want to rely on QRZ.com for your lookup needs then go to Buck.com (for a fee) or VanityHQ.com (oh no wait, he's no longer updating it) or you can always go to http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/ and download your own copy of the Licensing Files yourself.

Of course, if you happen to need DX Callsigns, you need to figure out the name/website for the Licesing Authority for that DX Entity and look up the person yourself... that is, provided that the Licensing Authority has their Licensing Directories online... which many don't have.

See? It's much less work to just rely on QRZ.com... besides, any HAM who wants to be found is already here... so what's the problem?

Oh, right... Fred is, in his own way, "censoring" K1MAN... well, guess what?? Like A LOT OF PEOPLE have said, this is Fred's website and he can run it any way he wants... and no one's telling you to come here.

[w1ajo]

As it has been said before, way to go QRZ! K1MAN has no right to be heard. Just tell him "sue us or shut up!".

He's always free to start his own site (his current AOL page is not a "site").

Tony
KG4SPA

[K8YS]

Quote[/b] (KU2S @ Nov. 04 2004,11:37)]While the QRZ website is indeed private property, and as such the administrators and owner of the site have the right to refuse access to the system's forums to anyone, the callsign database is very often considered to be inclusive of all (at least all US) active licensees by many. For that reason, K1MAN's call should be reactivated in the callsign database. Continue to restrict access to the forums if you like, but in fairness to the other hams out there, the ones who expect a COMPLETE callsign database, re-list the call.

Thank you.
heeheehee - WRONG! If someone really wants to look up K1MAN, they need to go to the source - www.fcc.gov

[k7ov]

Hi Fred,

The only exception I have to this thread, is the title! So far, all I have seen are congratulations on your actions. Who's critisizing you? Oh, I get it, Mr. Baxter. Hope you aren't losing sleep over that moron!

73,

Mike - K7OV

[n7htn]

I agree 100% on your right to delist K1MAN, the FCC needs to take out the garbage!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[k2lck]

Tho I agree with QRZ, if it was my decision, I would list only his QTH and prohibit anything further... Whether QRZ could/should also consider a "personna non grata" note on his listing, well, I am not sure that that is a bad idea..

[wx5nco]

Looks like this guy just received another letter from the FCC....

September 15, 2004


Mr. Glenn A. Baxter
RR 1 Box 776
Belgrade Lakes, ME 04918


RE: Warning Notice--Amateur Radio License K1MAN
Case #EB-2004-07


Dear Mr. Baxter:


On April 14, 2004, the Commission notified you of two areas of operation of your Amateur Radio station that, if not corrected, would lead to enforcement action against your licenses and/or designation of your renewal application for a hearing to determine if you are qualified to remain a licensee. Those were: 1) deliberate interference resulting from your commencing operation on top of ongoing communications, in violation of Sections 97.101(a) and (d); and 2) use of your Amateur station for pecuniary interests, in violation of Sections 97.113(a)(2)and (3).


We warned you that your transmissions start up on top of existing communications. We warned you that your publishing a "transmission schedule" does not give you the right to begin transmitting on a certain frequency at a certain time if there are ongoing communications on that frequency.


Regarding use of an Amateur station for pecuniary interest, we warned you you're your Amateur radio program transmissions regularly advertise your web pages at www.K1man.com, and on those pages you advertise items for sale, sales commissions and "overrides" that your State Directors and Section Managers can receive, and detail ways in which your Section Managers can earn money by recruiting members, selling hats, name badges or T shirts.


Not only have these violations not been corrected, but your web site that you continue to advertise offers credit cards and discounts for AARA card holders, in addition to the items and commissions mentioned above. Additionally, you advertised a physics conference and hotel rooms on June 6, 2004.


Additionally, we have received approximately a dozen complaints that your Amateur radio transmissions started on top of ongoing communications of individual operators, as well as on top of ongoing communications of the Salvation Army Team Emergency Radio Net, which handles health and welfare traffic for this season's hurricane victims.


Section 308(b) of the Communications Act of 1934, as amended, 47 U.S.C. Section 308(b), gives the Commission the authority to obtain information from applicants and licensees regarding the operation of their station and their qualifications to retain a Commission license. Accordingly, you are requested to respond to this letter within 20 days from receipt of this letter certifying: 1) what action you are taking to correct these deficiencies in the operation of your station; and 2) specifying what method of station control you have implemented for your Amateur radio transmissions.


Failure to correct the violations will subject you to enforcement action against your station and operator licenses.


In an inquiry of this type we are required to notify you that a willfully false or misleading reply constitutes a separate violation made punishable under United States Code Title 18, Section 1001.


CC: FCC Northeastern Regional Director
FCC Boston Office District Director
Honorable Paula D. Silsby, United States Attorney, U. S. Department of Justice,
District of Maine
David Collins, Assistant U.S. Attorney and Chief, Civil Division,
U. S. Department of Justice, District of Maine

[ks4xn]

If he's legally licensed then his callsign should be available for lookup of basic information. But I agree that the site owner(s) has the prerogative to limit or prohibit anything else they choose.

[k6lcs]

I love these morons who scream "censorship" and mistakenly believe that there are any Constitutionally-protected freedom of speech rights on non-government-run services like this one. Keep up the excellent work, editors and publishers of QRZ.com - your efforts ARE appreciated.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS

[n1wjo]

If everything that I have heard about this station is in fact true, then I have no problem with this person being de-listed. Anyone that does not abide by the laws and does not show good ethics to the hobby, should be delisted.

[K8KHZ]

I am not knowing of all