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W4TEY
10-13-2004, 05:24 AM
Lets start over. See below.
Got in a QSO with some 5's and 4's on 3.753. Slow paced pretty intelligent and really nice folks. Moved up to 3.875 and joined a QSO with a large group. Same conditions. Is this a growing trend on 80? Wouldn't it be great?
k9kxq
10-13-2004, 06:32 AM
Quote[/b] (W4TEY @ Oct. 13 2004,00:24)]Lets start over. See below.
Got in a QSO with some 5's and 4's on 3.753. Slow paced pretty intelligent and really nice folks. Moved up to 3.875 and joined a QSO with a large group. Same conditions. Is this a growing trend on 80? Wouldn't it be great?
Nope, not a growing trend! these gentlemen have always been there. The majority of the groups you will find are pleasant, willing to listen and most always acknowledge any station.
Definitely one of my favorite bands along with 10 meters, it don't get no better...
Thanks for a nice fresh thread and a clean change of pace...
kxq
W5HTW
10-13-2004, 02:01 PM
I agree with kxq. They've always been there.
What you read here on QRZ about 75 meters is from those people who find an objectionable group, then monitor them night after night, and think that's all there is to the band. They can't touch their tuning dial. It turns them on and off at the same time to listen to the crap. So they get on QRZ and complain about 75 being a CB band.
What they don't hear, because they are addicted to the bull on a single frequency, is hundreds of other contacts that are just plain good conversation between hams. But they post what they thought about that one frequency on here, and others read it, and agree, "Wow, 75 meters is all garbage."
It ain't so. But you can't convince them because they are addicted to the one or two every-night groups that ARE garbage, and they won't listen to anything else. Some of them just can't wait to get home from work and turn the radio on and dial in that 'special frequency' so they can hear something to complain about on QRZ.
Well, it's true. There ARE a couple of frequencies on 75 meters I wouldn't bother to listen to. So I don't. Instead I find good groups all up and down the band. They'll welcome you into them, and you can talk about ham radio, pickup trucks, hunting dogs, fishing, boats, cows, farms, cars, cameras, computers, furniture, building a house, plowing a field, fixing an engine, putting up an antenna, or a thousand other subjects, and be a part of the group.
Let the "bad boy" addicts make their complaints. Ignore them. Find your friendly group, and join in.
Glad you did exactly that!
73
Ed
Time for my "digital pitch" ! #If you don't like what you hear on SSB, why not try something else for a change? I personally have never run across a ham I have been sorry to talk to on the digital modes! #
The guys that are trying out MFSK, PSK, MT and some of the even rarer modes are all great conversationalists and highly interested in seeing what their setups can do, using the latest in digital technology!
I have never had to listen to anyone swearing, talking about their colonoscopies, harassing someone else, or any of those other negative things that seem to be the "normal" thing for so many voice operators to run in to ! #
Come down to 3680 USB dial reading any evening and join the "Digital Dummies" , otherwise known as the "Bubba Net" . There is a lot of good things going on, on the "digital" frequencies! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
73 from Jim
kb7aqd
10-13-2004, 05:49 PM
Try the CW portions, too. Check out the QRP frequencies on 80m near 3560 and 3579 kHz, and ask them about their homemade rigs. Greet Novices and Technicians from 3675-3725 kHz. And, listen for FISTS, Morse Preservation Society members around 3558 kHz. Always friendly conversations, so far. Wish I had more room for a bigger transmit antenna, though. Fun listening...
73 KB7AQD
Robert
73 KB7AQD
ai4ep
10-13-2004, 08:52 PM
They have been there all along. All some folks had to do was to turn the vfo knob a littel to the left or to the right to get away from the " potty mouths ".
But nooo...they had to use their lack of intelligence to tell all that " 75 meters is lousy " and other words.
Go back to a few threads and read the posts and see who said what.
I suppose they were just being their self.
k9kxq
10-13-2004, 10:01 PM
Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 13 2004,15:52)]They have been there all along. #All some folks had to do was to turn the vfo knob a littel to the left or to the right to get away from the " potty mouths ".
But nooo...they had to use their lack of intelligence to tell all that " 75 meters is lousy " and other words.
Go back to a few threads #and read the posts and see who said what.
I suppose they were just being their self.
How about that, and who was that lid who use to say all them mean, nasty things? what ever become of this mean hatefull individual? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kxq http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
ai4ep
10-13-2004, 11:36 PM
yep. and a few folks I have NOT seen any posts from lately...wonder why ?
KG4YUV
10-13-2004, 11:59 PM
Seems to me like everytime someone refers to it as '75 meters' they say it's the worst band in the world but everytime someone refers to it as '80 meters' there is nothing bad to be spoken of it in their context. Is it just me or does anyone notice this?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Well I have to say that 75-80 meters has always been my favorite band... Been lots of years ragchewing there and very very seldom have I heard any of the bad stuff that many here complain about... It seems to me that this band is always friendlier than 20 meters... I guess it's just like W5HTW said, them complainers just won't turn the dial and listen around because they get turned on by foul language and won't turn the dial...
k7unz
10-14-2004, 02:50 AM
Well, I can't say much about 75 meters and the SSB/AM bunch 'cos I just work CW....but I can say that my experience on 80 meter CW has always been enjoyable! #I have never met an op on 80 who didn't just want to have a chat with you, get to know you, and made you feel like you had really just made a new friend.
My only regret is that due to my antenna limitations ( a Butternut HF-9V) and the noise and crud generated from signals I have yet to understand, I don't get to operate there as much as I would like.
So, if you're really tired of what you hear on 75 meters, why not dust off the key and slide down the VFO a bit to 80 CW. #You won't regret it!
73, Jim/k7unz
W0BLH
10-14-2004, 05:17 AM
Quote[/b] (W5HTW @ Oct. 13 2004,09:01)]I agree with kxq. #They've always been there.
What you read here on QRZ about 75 meters is from those people who find an objectionable group, then monitor them night after night, and think that's all there is to the band. #They can't touch their tuning dial. #It turns them on and off at the same time to listen to the crap. #So they get on QRZ and complain about 75 being a CB band. #
I have to agree that 75-80 Meters is a great band. One of the former posters causing trouble is now gone from QRZ and the hate stirred up by thier postings has mellowed out. Here is what this person said in doing a self assement. It has been cleaned up a little with a * and $$. In their own words it speaks for itself.
"I'm the lazy b*stard that lives off his wife and sleeps all day and won't get off his fat a$$ and go out and get a job or contribute anything of value to society. #But most importantly, I'm also the worthless slug that doesn't have a life outside of amateur radio, and all I have to do everyday is just sit here on my fat a$$ in front of this radio, eat Bon Bons, and cause trouble for people all day long."
BLH
Ham Radio is a Hobby and Fun!
I agree with Jimmy too. I joined a group specifically because they had been maligned on QRZ here and when I listened, they sounded like nice folks.
No doubt in my mind that kc0ebm's antics caused a few folks to clean up their act on the air. But in the long run, there were no enforcement actions taken on any tape he sent in and the FCC came to view him as not to be taken seriously. My point is that he proved that one person COULD shake up things, but he was not necessarily the right person to do it.
Quote[/b] (W4TEY @ Oct. 12 2004,22:24)]Lets start over. See below.
Got in a QSO with some 5's and 4's on 3.753. Slow paced pretty intelligent and really nice folks. Moved up to 3.875 and joined a QSO with a large group. Same conditions. Is this a growing trend on 80? Wouldn't it be great?
Sounds like the 80 meters I know.
Quote[/b] (KG4YUV @ Oct. 13 2004,19:59)]Seems to me like everytime someone refers to it as '75 meters' they say it's the worst band in the world but everytime someone refers to it as '80 meters' there is nothing bad to be spoken of it in their context. Is it just me or does anyone notice this?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
The reason you will find some folks referring to the "75 meter" band and others to the "80 meter" band has to do with the fact that the entire band is so wide ( measured as a percentage of the center frequency) that in order to work at peak efficiency, antennas generally have to be tuned for the lower or the upper portion of the band, depending on the operator's favorite mode of operation.
I personally have not been above the middle of the band for years, and find no reason whatever to go into the phone portion ( 75 meters ) . #I have had numerous QSOs in the CW and soundcard digital modes on the 80 meter band, and get all the satisfaction I need, working other operators who feel as I do.
No, it is not "just you", and it was very astute of you to pick up on the difference in the terminology!
73 from Jim AG3Y
W0BLH
10-14-2004, 11:45 PM
Quote[/b] (k9kxq @ Oct. 13 2004,17:01)]Quote[/b] (ai4ep @ Oct. 13 2004,15:52)]They have been there all along. #All some folks had to do was to turn the vfo knob a littel to the left or to the right to get away from the " potty mouths ".
But nooo...they had to use their lack of intelligence to tell all that " 75 meters is lousy " and other words.
Go back to a few threads #and read the posts and see who said what.
I suppose they were just being their self.
How about that, and who was that lid who use to say all them mean, nasty things? what ever become of this mean hatefull individual? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
kxq #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
The ugly Troll lives under a bridge that crosses over the Raccoon River on Highway 141 in a Mid-Western State. Keep the Troll under the bridge!
BLH
Ham Radio is a Hobby and Fun!