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KG6JTB
10-12-2004, 04:48 AM
Senator Kerry thinks that Americans are just too concerned about terrorism, and longs for a simpler time when the global terrorist was a mere nuisance to our society, like prostitution and drugs. Some of Kerry's constituents like those who wish to legalize drugs and the pimps are quite offended by this comparison.
Considering the long periods of time between terrorist attacks (some 8 years between both WTC attacks), the terrorists would love for us to become complacent and let our guard down.
Even if you disagree with everything President Bush stands for, Kerry's recent comments reveal his weakness on issues regarding our national security. Let's all pretend it doesn't exist, and maybe it will all go away.
Kerry is the modern equivalent of Chamberlain.
Dave
KG6JTB
K6UEY
10-12-2004, 04:57 AM
Was Chamberlain a member of the Socialist Party, I don't recall,I think it is refered to as the Labor Party in the UK,they try to associate them selves with Labor here also. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
I wonder... what is Kerry's plan for an orderly withdraw from Korea, Japan and Germany?? These are long ago wars, more "wrong war, wrong time" wars (according to Joe Kennedy and Nevil Chamberlin, WW2 in Europe was the wrong war, wrong time)...
We still have troops in these foreign lands, what is Kerry's exit statagy for this?
dig my new phonetics:
Bob - K8YS
Bush over Bubba - Kerry Ate Yellow Snow.
w4glm
10-12-2004, 02:09 PM
You make your decision.
I for one believe that in keeping with all of today's
problem's it is more important than ever us to elect a
President with High Morals and Biblical characteristics
on ALL ISSUES, including abortion and gay marriage.
E-mail if you need Biblical references.
w4glm@starband.net
THE CHOICE IS CLEAR
Well, his daughter is an adult and if she wants to make her father look bad for some reason, she is entitled to do it. (I saw the film festival photos and wondered if she had something against her father of if the family itself feels it is no big deal).
I want to hear more about his "more sensitive" war against the terrorists around the world and in Iraq. I heard Edwards spin that it meant being more sensitive to France and Germany and could not believe it. I don't think Kerry believed it.
I hope Bush makes some hay with the nusiance and sensitive ware remarks. Stuff like this really shows an almost complete lack of understanding of the post 9/11 world.
73
George
K3UD
K0RGR
10-12-2004, 05:38 PM
Yes - there is a clear choice here.
President Bush and V.P. Cheney believe that to stop terrorism, you must use military force to overthrow the nations that sponsor terrorism and replace them with democracies. That is exactly what Dick Cheney said in the V.P. debate.
Kerry, on the hand, believes that war must be used as a last resort. Instead, all the civilized countries of the world need to work together to root out and destroy terrorism. You can pursue terrorists without conquering and occupying other nations.
What are the practical limits of military power? If we had known that the 9/11 attacks were underway, what kind of military force would have prevented it? What was needed was police/intelligence/security forces.
How many rogue nations are there that we would have to conquer in order to stop terror? How many decades will this war continue? How many million people will die in it? How many nukes will the real terrorists sneak past our borders while our troops and our money are fighting in Iran, or Syria, or http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
The Bush Administration is selling paranoia and nationalistic extremism. I'm not buying it.
N7AAO
10-12-2004, 06:37 PM
Quote[/b] (K0RGR @ Oct. 12 2004,10:38)]Yes - there is a clear choice here.
President Bush and V.P. Cheney believe that to stop terrorism, you must use military force to overthrow the nations that sponsor terrorism and replace them with democracies. That is exactly what Dick Cheney said in the V.P. debate. #
Kerry, on the hand, believes that war must be used as a last resort. #Instead, all the civilized countries of the world need to work together to root out and destroy terrorism. #You can pursue terrorists without conquering and occupying other nations.
What are the practical limits of military power? If we had known that the 9/11 attacks were underway, what kind of military force would have prevented it? What was needed was police/intelligence/security forces.
How many rogue nations are there that we would have to conquer in order to stop terror? How many decades will this war continue? How many million people will die in it? How many nukes will the real terrorists sneak past our borders while our troops and our money are fighting in Iran, or Syria, or http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
The Bush Administration is selling paranoia and nationalistic extremism. I'm not buying it.
Ya know, we tried the Kerry plan, under both Presidents Carter and Clinton.
Carter got Americans taken hostage and held for 444 days.
Clinton got at least two embassy bombings, a bomb on a US warship in harbor, and the first bombing of the WTC.
Bush had one attack, 9/11, and responded swiftly with overwhelming military force. And we have not had another attack on American soil since soon after the troops hit Afghanistan.
And, Qadaffi (sp?) voluntarily, I repeat, voluntarily gave up his WMD programs and invited, I repeat, invited in whatever inspectors we wanted to send. And all without firing a shot at Libya, because he was afraid he was next.
Carter/Clinton/Kerry "summit" plan, 0; Bush "shock and awe" plan, 2.
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KG6JTB
10-13-2004, 01:50 AM
Quote[/b] ]What are the practical limits of military power? If we had known that the 9/11 attacks were underway, what kind of military force would have prevented it? What was needed was police/intelligence/security forces.
Agreed. We learned from 9/11 that our intelligence services needed to be re-tooled.
We also need to go after state-sponsored terrorism. Not every nation is a candidate from democracy, but we certainly can make life painful for the governments that harbor terrorism.
The terrorists need to be pursued wherever they are.
I'm not paranoid. The president doesn't scare me. What scares me is supplying nuke technology to N. Korea to make nice with them.
Dave
KG6JTB
N7AAO
10-13-2004, 01:52 AM
Quote[/b] (KG6JTB @ Oct. 12 2004,18:50)]I'm not paranoid. The president doesn't scare me. What scares me is supplying nuke technology to N. Korea to make nice with them.
Dave
KG6JTB
But President Clinton got them to cross their heart and promise before he gave them the nuclear technology! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
ai4ep
10-13-2004, 02:30 AM
let us see
Clinton is a democrat
Kerry is a democrat
any questions ?
k9kjm
10-13-2004, 07:13 AM
K0RGR said it: "If we had known that the 9/11 attacks were underway, what kind of military force would have prevented it? What was needed was police/intelligence/security forces."
YUP! No kidding.
Problem is KERRY is one who voted AGAINST proper funding for the intelligence agencies! (Of the few times he actually voted on things that really matter)
While I sure do not agree that Bush has done the "right thing"
Kerry is clearly the WORST of two evils, And NOT a person to support once you know the truth.
K0RGR
10-13-2004, 02:42 PM
Yes, the world did change on 9/11, and it changed for everybody, not just the Republicans. But as great as that horror was, we can't let it drive us into acts of stupidity that do nothing to increase our security, which at least in the short run describes the current misadventure in Iraq. We can't let it drive us into never-ending warfare, which is exactly what the neocons think we need.
Who's next? Iran, Syria? We've already had a shot at North Korea - maybe GWB thinks he can do better there? Now, that would be a war to make any hawk proud, and it would be against real, live commies, too - not many of them around anymore. GWB will probably invade Cuba though, because its much closer and and easier target.
They just announced yesterday that millions of voter registration cards are unaccounted for in this state. Lots of people are going to show up at the polls and find out they aren't registered, because somebody only turned in the cards for their party! We're waiting to see which one. Is this America or Bolivia? We need U.N. election inspectors right here in Minnesota!