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g3zhi
10-07-2004, 09:49 AM
The International Space Station (ISS) is back on repeater mode as of October 7, 2004

145.800 downlink 437.800 uplink

download prediction program from .................................................. ..................

http://www.uiview.com


73 Ian G3ZHI

http://www.qsl.net/g3zhi - many ham radio links http://www.ukirlp.co.uk

G4NJI IRLP 5200 Echolink 135909 Rotherham simplex 145.2875mhz

GB3XN IRLP 5708 Echolink 153126 Langold 430.925 Mhz

Ian Abel G3ZHI 52 Hollytree Ave Maltby Rotherham Yorkshire S66 8DY Tel: 01709 799911 Mobile 0783 338 0578

kc2ftn
10-08-2004, 02:47 AM
BRAVO...I'm glad to hear it's back on!

KC2FTN
www.hamwave.com

kf4uel
10-08-2004, 05:42 AM
Heard it from Southwest Virginia, Kinda Exciting! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KI4GKW
10-09-2004, 01:32 PM
Heard it yesterday on an VX-150 HT, very interesting to hear. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

N1IG
10-09-2004, 09:08 PM
Had a QSO with Mike (Flight Engineer) on the ISS (NA1SS) on 08 October 2004 at 20:45Z. #The station was somewhere over the central part of the US, and I was mobile on Rt 270 near Rt 118 in MD. # Have tried several times at the home QTH, but it always seems to work better going through the ISS while mobile.
Thanks for the great QSO #!!!

Anthony N1IG

KI4GKW
10-09-2004, 09:32 PM
Can you please tell me the correct procedure for going through the ISS, I've been listening, but haven't figured it out

KC9ECI
10-09-2004, 10:32 PM
The downlink is on 145.80 MHz, uplink frequency is 437.80 MHz. All frequencies are subject to Doppler shifting. For further information on working satellites and adjusting for Doppler shift, please review Emily Clark's (W0EEC) excellent presentation on AMSAT's website, http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/Intro_sats.pdf

M3WBS
10-09-2004, 10:34 PM
I HAVE HEARD IT...EXITING AS A NEWCOMER TO THE HOBBY....SHAME OUR LICENSE WONT ALLOW US TO WORK IT...OR AM I INCORRECT.

MAYBE SOME ONE COULD CLARIFY FOR ME.
CHEERS
STEVE/M3WBS

M0MJH
10-09-2004, 11:47 PM
Same here... Are intermediate licensees allowed to use sats yet???

73

2E1MJH http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

10-09-2004, 11:59 PM
Quote[/b] (M3WBS @ Oct. 09 2004,15:34)]I HAVE HEARD IT...EXITING AS A NEWCOMER TO THE HOBBY....SHAME OUR LICENSE WONT ALLOW US TO WORK IT...OR AM I INCORRECT.

MAYBE SOME ONE COULD CLARIFY FOR ME.
CHEERS
STEVE/M3WBS
Good Question!

Firstly CAPS on most boards are considered SHOUTING and is not polite, but I have your answer.

This Link (http://www.issfanclub.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=992) gave me:-

ISS repeater and the M3 Licence

ISS Amateur RadioAnonymous writes "My question was...
As a M3 Foundation licence holder in the UK are we permitted to use the ISS repeater?

Several emails to the RSGB raised no reponce. An email to Ofcom did, and this was Denise Carter's reply, in short...
Foundation licensees are permitted to speak directly to and only to the astronauts on the ISS. Communications by voice data or other means via the ISS are not permitted.

So, just if your wondering... As an M3 Foundation holder you CAN speak to the Astronauts but, not use any other features of the ISS.

KD4CXG
10-10-2004, 10:58 AM
A Burbank, IL school talked to the ISS a few years ago, and I was a team member that helped set up. While I did not get to talk, it was really cool to see the excitement of the kids and to hear the ISS. We need to do this more and get kids interested in ham radio.

Thanks to AJ9N our engineer, the Burbank kids as well as the ham team had a wonderful experience.

Here are some notes form AJ9N.....
3. Remember that the ISS radios are not able to correct for Doppler as the
frequencies are channelized. So it is up to the ground station to do the
Doppler correction. For 2 meters, the Doppler is about +3kHz at the beginning and
goes to about -3kHz at the end. For 70 cm, the Doppler is about +10kHz at the
beginning and goes to about -10kHz at the end. The 70cm Doppler is roughly 3
times the 2m Doppler. Many of the tracking programs have the ability to
calculate the Doppler

Blessings,

Doug

www.kd4cxg.com

nc8x
10-10-2004, 03:33 PM
does anyone have any tips or techniques to working satellites from a icom 706 cant seem to figure out how to set the offsets to 2m/70cm. any detailed information would be greatly appreciated .

KI4GKW
10-10-2004, 04:54 PM
I believe any Ham operator can work the ISS, considering that the uplink is 70cm and the downlink is 2m. #Makes sence to me that any licensed operator can work it. #But that's just my guess http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

kb6ssn
10-10-2004, 07:38 PM
I heard a report that they may have to abandon the ISS if the Russians don't send their resupply ship on time. Has anyone else heard this?

KC9ECI
10-10-2004, 08:58 PM
Quote[/b] (kb6ssn @ Oct. 10 2004,13:38)]I heard a report that they may have to abandon the ISS if the Russians don't send their resupply ship on time. Has anyone else heard this?
Quote[/b] ]Expedition 9's Stay on ISS Winding Down; Expedition 10 to Arrive Next Week
Throughout the week, Expedition 9 Commander Gennady Padalka and NASA ISS Science Officer Mike Fincke prepared for their return to Earth. Their six-month stay aboard the International Space Station will wrap up Oct. 23.

Preparations for their return to Earth included fit checks of the custom-made seatliners in the ISS Soyuz 8 spacecraft in which they will return to Earth.

http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/

For further information on the ISS, visit http://www.issfanclub.com/index.php

M0MJH
10-10-2004, 09:38 PM
What about intermediates though. I got very close to using the crossband repeater on ISS one day but I thought I'd better not as I didn't know the legality of it.

73
2e1mjh

kb9vxq
10-11-2004, 05:11 AM
Quote[/b] (kb8wmz @ Oct. 10 2004,08:33)]does anyone have any tips or techniques to working satellites from a icom 706 cant seem to figure out how to set the offsets to 2m/70cm. any detailed information would be greatly appreciated .
KB8WMZ I don't believe the 706 is the best radio to do it with since you need to hear your downlink while transmitting so you can adjust for Doppler shift. I have only gotten into it once (because of insufficient antennas) but I use my dual band mobile. I listen on the 2m side and transmit on the 70cm side.
Good luck, Tracy KB9VXQ

KH2D
10-11-2004, 07:50 AM
does anyone have any tips or techniques to working satellites from a icom 706 cant seem to figure out how to set the offsets to 2m/70cm. any detailed information would be greatly appreciated .

Set VFO A to 145.800
Set VFO B to 437.800

Set the radio on VFO A, and then turn the SPLIT on.
(M1 SPL)

When you transmit, the VFO should change to the
B VFO.

Like somebody mentioned earlier, better to be able
to listen to the downlink all the time, but if it's the
only radio you have, go for it.

73, Jim KH2D

KB0ZUU
10-11-2004, 10:42 PM
i have #been listening to it #for #about 3 weeks in voice #mode and packet... although i dont have 440 rig here YET i do #enjoy listening in on it... i think the #stations #that #do get in to it real good are running SERIOUS power on 440 and are real #close to its pass ( in degrees) ....... does anoyone here know the #status and #operation #proceedings for ao-51? #and #are they gonna #put the #iss #back into 144.49 up and #145.800 down back in #anytime soon , ( #i wanna #get a contact of the iss too).... 73's ALL #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

N1IG
10-11-2004, 11:02 PM
I don't know about needing to run 'serious' power. I used my D-700 at 35 watts into a 5/8 wave mobile antenna on the trunk of my car.

Anthony N1IG

KC9ECI
10-12-2004, 02:46 AM
Quote[/b] (KB0ZUU @ Oct. 11 2004,16:42)]i have #been listening to it #for #about 3 weeks in voice #mode and packet... although i dont have 440 rig here YET i do #enjoy listening in on it... i think the #stations #that #do get in to it real good are running SERIOUS power on 440 and are real #close to its pass ( in degrees) ....... does anoyone here know the #status and #operation #proceedings for ao-51? #and #are they gonna #put the #iss #back into 144.49 up and #145.800 down back in #anytime soon , ( #i wanna #get a contact of the iss too).... 73's ALL #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
144.49 up and #145.800 down is for the packet system. You MIGHT catch a random QSO with one of the astro/cosmonauts on 155.8 down and 144.49 up. I keep that combo on a hotkey on my IC-V8000 after I heard Mike one morning and didn't have the uplink frequency handy.

k5co
10-12-2004, 02:44 PM
Well, it's nice that they have Ham radio to give them something to do. Otherwise, the ISS is an expensive boondoggle and the money sure could have been better spent on any number of space programs, including our aging telescope. I guess it gives the Russians a sense of doing something.

Kd5PSH

G3SEA
10-13-2004, 03:47 AM
To KD5PSH

The ISS crews are VERY busy which is why random contacts are infrequent.However the Repeat mode is a
great way to use the ISS without bothering the crew.

Yes it is an expensive venture but one ( like all pioneering efforts ) will prove it's worth in the experiments being conducted up there.

The Russians certainly are doing something.They are planning a multiple crew trip to Mars. We should join them #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Per Ardua Ad Astra # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

10-13-2004, 03:29 PM
Quote[/b] (KB0ZUU @ Oct. 11 2004,15:42)]i think the #stations #that #do get in to it real good are running SERIOUS power on 440 and are real #close to its pass ( in degrees)
No, it doesn't take a lot of power, though a directional antenna is helpful. #I built a handheld, two-band Yagi similar to the one shown at http://www.g6lvb.com/HomebrewArrow.htm and have been using it successfully with my HT transmitting at 5 watts on 440 MHz. #I use another HT (Radio Shack single band) to monitor the 2 meter downlink, so I don't need a diplexer and can hear my own signal.
#-- Bill, AB1AV

KC2ESD
10-13-2004, 04:53 PM
I heard the Station two times so far, once around Oct 2nd from Southern New Jersey and on Oct 10th while on Vacation in Nashville Tenn on my VX-2R. Heard calls from 4 land to 2 land during the pass. I did not transmitt for I did not know the uplink frequency. I'm going to give it a try once I config my radio for the split pair. 73 de Rick KC2ESD

K5VGU
10-13-2004, 06:46 PM
I have been able to make contacts via the ISS repeater using my Kenwood D700 and its usual setup in my vehicle. #Antenna is a dualband Larson mag mount...Power level was 35 watts on 440. # I have made 3 contacts in the past week on two different ISS passes. #The maximum elevation on these passes was 64 and 76 degrees.

I had no idea I could get into the ISS repeater with my current setup. #WHAT A THRILL!

Sounds like repeater will be up through Sat, Oct 16th.

"The Kenwood radio is currently in repeater mode and is expected to remain in this mode through October 16."
# # #-from item #4 on http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/ariss/

73s to all, and GOOD LUCK!
Duane, K5VGU

W8RCR
10-14-2004, 05:11 PM
The Space Shuttle launched last night, but I'm not able to track it using my software, even though I have downloaded the new elements. I can track ISS, but not the Space Shuttle.
Does anyone know why that is? Or, lead me to the information to do so?
73's
Richard
W8RCR

nc8x
10-15-2004, 12:35 AM
The space shuttle is not in orbit , the shuttle program is on hold and if you are using the elenents to track the Space Shuttle thats probably why. the Russian Soyuz Space Craft is what was recently launched to send supplies to the ISS. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KC9ECI
10-15-2004, 01:58 AM
The Soyuz TMA-5 transport spacecraft is what launched. You can track it with Satscape.

W8RCR
10-15-2004, 02:11 PM
Thank You both KB8WMZ & KC9ECI for your reply. I did read on the NASA site that it was the Soyuz TMA-5 yesterday afternoon, and at that time there was no Satellite in my files for that. The Soyuz TMA-4 was the last TMA number on file at that time. However, later in the evening the TMA-5 was available and I am now able to track that at this time. I'm using the Nova for Windows program and will try the program you suggested as well.
Again, Thank You
73's
W8RCR

KC9ECI
10-17-2004, 06:38 PM
ISS is back in packet mode 1400Z 17 October

W6NPS
10-18-2004, 04:27 PM
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Can anyone help me?

I have been trying to contact the repeater on ISS with my handheld with no success on 145800KHz down and 437.800Khz up.
Is it just a lack of power or must I have a CTCSS tone?
I get the satelite predictions from NASA. Should I wait until an overpass is directly over me?

TNX
Carl

W8RCR
10-18-2004, 06:17 PM
I haven't heard any voice from the ISS Repeater since the TMA 5 docked at 12:30 AM Saturday. Before that I could hear the ISS Repeater on 3 passes in a row when it was close enough.
Maybe someone could fill us in if the ISS Voice is functional at this time?

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W8RCR

KA7HTQ
10-19-2004, 02:31 PM
Hi , i noticed to me anew uplink for the ISS?
is this 437MHZ? voice F1 transmission and or both digital/packet/aprs???

was wondering so I can update may ISS ham radio page.... I have several recorded QSO voice with ISS crew members you can listen to them free at my ham radio page, 2 of them... I actally talked to Susan Helms of Crew #2 as she flew over Phoenix,Az,USA

73's traking this topic via e-mails + just got my APRS working... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
from
KA7HTQ

The falcon's Nest,Space (http://home.earthlink.net/~w0dfi/2nd.html)
Go to this page to learn a lot about voice communications(which is NOT a new function for ISS by the way...)The Falcon's Nest has updated links,info,procedures,traking the ISS over your house links,Space and Ham Radio News...good starting place for newbies http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KA7HTQ
10-21-2004, 02:43 AM
I couldn't find the news article on ISS? I read as of October 18Th ISS is in Packet Mode....from Arrl.org but here in the USA I never heard of an UPLINK to ISS on 70CM? 437MHz?? Just wanted to confirm this... It is possible to hear other mistaken calling on that frequency, but I may be completely wrong...
for the time being Im sticking with what I have used in the past
for USA 144.490MHZ UPLINK packet/F1 Voice and DOWNLINK from ISS 145.800MHZ.


Learn more hereThe Falcon's Nest,Space (http://home.earthlink.net/~w0dfi/2nd.html)


thanks for any new info,


{ I have contacted ISS,FM voice and PACKET/APRS on these frequencies}

kc2ndo
10-21-2004, 11:01 PM
On one of the other threads, they had mentioned an EchoLink node you could connect through to access the ISS. Is that still active, or does anyone know of any others?

KA7HTQ
10-22-2004, 04:28 PM
If anyone needs help as to contacting the ISSresources page all the links you need from Tracking it over your house to when they are most likely to be on the air....

http://home.earthlink.net/~w0dfi/2nd.html


My Webpage (http://home.earthlink.net/~w0dfi/2nd.html)

W8RCR
11-12-2004, 08:15 PM
Well, I don't know about everyone else, but I still have not been able to hear any voice from the space station since expedition 10 docked. I was able to hear the voice repeater for 3 rotations in a row before that. I'm still listening on 145.800 fm

Anyone else out there having any luck with the space station repeater lately?

Richard, W8RCR

KA7HTQ
11-12-2004, 10:31 PM
Your on the CORRECT listening frequency so keep listening, They do not always have time to talk, in fact they need a #lot of free time to Talk Sunday afternoons are good, I made my F1(FM-Voice) contact on a Sunday evening.
Persistence is the key!
stop by my site and learn more!
73's
ka7htq
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0dfi/falconbnr.gif

W8RCR
11-13-2004, 06:44 PM
Was your contact before or after the expedition 10 docking? I was able to hear other hams on the repeater before 10 docked. I have not heard any voice since then.

Thanks for your help

Richard, W8RCR