phone call

[wd0ct]

I just received a call wanting money for a pro Bush documentary to refute Michael Moore's Farenheit 911.
The person played me an audio clip of some conservative bashing the media and Michael Moore. Then a woman came on the line asking me what I thought of the media and Michael Moore and leading up to asking for money.
# # I politely told her what I thought of the media, the Bush administration, and Michael Moore. She thanked me for my time and hung up.

The funny part, to me anyway, is that I'm a registered democrat. I did just re-join the NRA though. This must have confused them.

Don't these orginizations, on both sides, have enough millions of dollars to last until November? I'm thinking this may have been a scam. How would these people have enough time to pay for and produce another documentary between now and November?

[WA5KRP]

LUCKY YOU!

You just got a call from a scam artist.


Do you seriously believe Bush or the RNC would try to hunt that pathetic dog?




WA5KRP
Texas

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (wa5krp @ Aug. 20 2004,15:23)]LUCKY YOU! #

You just got a call from a scam artist.


Do you seriously believe Bush or the RNC would try to hunt that pathetic dog?




WA5KRP
Texas
Not really. The swift boat people are doing their hunting.

[KA9VQF]

Shouldn't take all that much cash. Would be a da#n short film.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (wd0ct @ Aug. 20 2004,17:29)]The swift boat people are doing their hunting.
OK. Ever reckon they are acting on their own?


Overall, a survey of the two candidates, by even the most casual observer, clearly gives a sense of desperate damage control within one group of backers.


Michael Moore obviously has Bush in a death grip.


HAW!®



WA5KRP
Texas

[ae4fa]

You ACTUALLY answer the phone????????????????

That's why God invented answering machines - great for screening calls!

[wd0ct]

Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Aug. 20 2004,16:40)]You ACTUALLY answer the phone?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

That's why God invented answering machines - great for screening calls!
Yeah I answer the phone. Can't stand answering machines. The only thing worse than making a long distance call and getting an answering machine is getting a computer generated message.

[K8YS]

Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Aug. 19 2004,17:40)]You ACTUALLY answer the phone?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

That's why God invented answering machines - great for screening calls!
another rule of life... NO PHONE HAS A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE ANSWERED

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (K8YS @ Aug. 20 2004,17:39)]Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Aug. 19 2004,17:40)]You ACTUALLY answer the phone?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

That's why God invented answering machines - great for screening calls!
another rule of life... NO PHONE HAS A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BE ANSWERED
Amen!

The phone is just another interruption into my already too-interrupted life. I wouldn't drop everything and talk to a stranger at my door for 30 minutes (I send most door-to-door hucksters away within a minute or two), why the heck should I do it for someone on the phone?

[KA9VQF]

My dad, who’s opinion, I have always had great respect for, called the telephone “That %^*&#($& instrument of Satan” especially if it was some one wanting to sell aluminum siding or windows, at dinner time, or during his favorite TV show.

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (ae4fa @ Aug. 20 2004,17:40)]You ACTUALLY answer the phone?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

That's why God invented answering machines - great for screening calls!
Laughing my butt off...

Caller ID. #Best $6 I spend every month. #If it says "out of area" we don't answer and it rolls to a cheap answering machine. #Not once has any of these calls generated a message on the machine.

The phone is for MY convenience, not theirs.

[N7AAO]

I finally found a good use for Radio Shack! Behold, the Telezapper (http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F008%5F008%5F014%5F000&product%5Fid=43%2D2218)! If I understand the concept right, it sends a tone similar to the first tone in Ma Bell's "this number has been disconnected" message, which is supposed to make automated systems list you as "disconnected."

Not sure if it works, but it might be worth a try.

[KF0RT]

I've heard that the Telezapper actually works. Don't have one, but for the price, it might be worth trying.

73, Rob (KFØRT)

[N7AAO]

Here is another site about the TeleZapper (http://www.telezapper.com/), if anyone is interested. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ki4bgo]

Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Aug. 20 2004,20:02)]The phone is for MY convenience, not theirs.
Our phone is for my wife's convenience. I just use it to get on the internet, and keep my DirecTV receiver connected to, so I can order a PPV movie now & then! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif

[KF0RT]

Quote[/b] (ki4bgo @ Aug. 20 2004,19:28)]Quote[/b] (KF0RT @ Aug. 20 2004,20:02)]The phone is for MY convenience, not theirs.
Our phone is for my wife's convenience. I just use it to get on the internet, and keep my DirecTV receiver connected to, so I can order a PPV movie now & then! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif
Same here, but don't have Sat-TV and the Internet is piped in via cable.

I hate telephones. Have a cell phone and very few people have the number -- it's the only phone I answer. It's really wierd to take the family out to dinner and realize that everyone who has the number is in the car.

73, Rob "Guess I'll turn it off"

[ae4fa]

Quote[/b] ] wouldn't drop everything and talk to a stranger at my door for 30 minutes (I send most door-to-door hucksters away within a minute or two)
And THAT is why I live where I do. Been here about 10 years, and never had anyone knock on my door. Between the 350' driveway and the dogs, I got no problems!

'Course you gotta be a hermit at heart to get along out here . . .

[W0BLH]

If you have not registered for the "National Do Not Call List," do it. I have that and a telemarketer screener that our local phone company uses. If it is unknown, or an unlisted number the caller gets a message that "This individual does not take telemarketer calls. If you are a telemarketer hangup now and take the number off your list. If not, stay on the line or press 1." We can be gone for a couple of weeks and don't have any calls on the Caller ID as the ones we get calls from know we are gone. Millions of calls have been intercepted by the local phone company using this and not passed to the individual. The only ones that get through are the recordings. By the time you pick it up you hear the last couple sentences. The system works.

BLH

Ham radio is fun!

[K6UEY]

Just a quick comment on the original subject if that is permitted. Anyone who is paying attention knows the Bush Camp has over twice the contributions to finance the campaign that the DNC has, so it is very doubtful that they would be hawking funds like the Kerry campaign is doing. The "moveon.org" is pumping money into the support of Kerry off the books, but very little is mentioned as the primary motivation by the media is to oust Bush, not to elect Kerry. Most agree Kerry can't do the job as well,but the big money are willing to settle even for a Socialist if they can remove Bush,and screw up this country, actually ousting Bush will have World wide percussions, that will reflect negatively in several world economies. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[K8EEI]

Is that what they told you ?

You actually believe that ?

You're scaring me #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 20 2004,19:58)]Most agree Kerry can't do the job as well,but the big money are willing to settle even for a Socialist if they can remove Bush,and screw up this country, actually ousting Bush will have World wide percussions, that will reflect negatively in several world economies. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Like what? Give me one concrete example of a world economy that'll be hurt if Bush doesn't get re-elected.

Oh, maybe you mean the US-Australian Free Trade Agreement (http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/final-text/index.html), where Bush basically gives away many US markets in exchange for Aussie support of operations in Iraq and cherry-picking for a select few US corporations (think pharmceutical companies and you'll get the idea).

Hope you don't enjoy fresh beef.

[K6UEY]

K8EEI,
Well TONY, it ain't the heat!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[ki4bgo]

Quote[/b] (K8EEI @ Aug. 20 2004,22:05)]Is that what they told you ?

You actually believe that ?

You're scaring me #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif
Stuff like THIS really scares me:Quote[/b] ]the big money are willing to settle even for a Socialist if they can remove Bush,and screw up this country Bush needs to go so HE will stop screwing up this country! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[K6UEY]

Horse pucky!! You sound like a brain dead liberal.
Bush is doing an exemplary job,and is truly the right man at the right job,not only would it lack common sense to change horses in mid stream,but it would display total ignorance of the situation and what he is trying to achieve for the good of the country and the World.For the betterment of the whole world now sure as hell is not the time to play EGO gamesby putting an incompetent to handle possible Nuclear threats from unfriendly powers.Too many lives are at stake to trust a power hungry egomaniac in the white house,he has already shown he is unreliable from the games he plays with the US senate,the risk is not worth taking!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[W8EFA]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 20 2004,20:57)]Horse pucky!! You sound like a brain dead liberal.
Bush is doing an exemplary job,and is truly the right man at the right job,not only would it lack common sense to change horses in mid stream,but it would display total ignorance of the situation and what he is trying to achieve for the good of the country and the World.For the betterment of the whole world now sure as hell is not the time to play EGO gamesby putting an incompetent to handle possible Nuclear threats from unfriendly powers.Too many lives are at stake to trust a power hungry egomaniac in the white house,he has already shown he is unreliable from the games he plays with the US senate,the risk is not worth taking!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Horse Puckey yourself

Look around at GWB's approval rating. #Until last week it was below 50%. That is absolutely awful for a sitting president, especially in a time of crisis. #All he has left are a few people like you who refuse to consider the facts.

Look at world opinion - the whole world hates Bush. #In the televised coverage of the olympics the Greeks were quoted as saying "we don't like George Bush but we still like americans". Same thing the French, Germans, Italians, Irish etc. are saying. Yea go ahead - discount the rest of the world they are all just stupid. #That is exactly how your hero Bush thinks and acts.

Bush has not accomplished one thing yet that is un-disputably good for this country.

Goodbye GWB another one term failure like daddy

[K6UEY]

Well you got a point there,several times in history though those Socialist countries have been wrong,true Kerry will probably follow the suggestions,those countries give,he claims that several foreign groups are backing him,I mean in addition to Al Quada (SP)
What has BUSH done well he turned the Clinton recession back around,and prevented it from going into the depression it was headed for,and it did not take 8 years to do it.He handled 9-11 very professionally and competently,but A liberal would never hear of such things nor even understand why we went to Iraq,but where you guys rest your head not a lot of sound penetrates.
There is no rocket science involved to see why GWB must be reelected,but you Liberals never look past your nose. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KA9VQF]

<Too many lives are at stake to trust a power hungry egomaniac in the white house,>

this part of you rant is right on the money! It is why George W. Bush MUST GO.

He took a healthy economy with no deficit and destroyed it.

He personally signed the document that made it financially responsible for the company I was working for to box up everything and send it to Mexico.

You rant on about how he is such an educated man while I sit here waiting for my lights to be turned off.

Get a grip! Or at least a clue.

Or are you independently wealthy.

Try to get a job!!

There are none.

[W8EFA]

I think my point was that maybe you are not looking past YOUR nose.

You cite 911 as an accomplishment. That was my very point as to why his ratings are so poor. The majority of americans are dis-satisfied with his handling of Iraq! Keep in mind that he had a 90% approval after 911. Less than 50% ratings now means he has failed in the eyes of the MAJORITY of americans Orv.

I won't even comment on your quote he turned around the Clinton economy. Whaaat?

Let me KISS for You
Clinton years - Economy good
Bush - years Economy bad

How much the presidents have a direct effect on that is debatable but please don't confuse economic known FACTS!

[W8EFA]

Quote[/b] (KA9VQF @ Aug. 20 2004,22:50)]<Too many lives are at stake to trust a power hungry egomaniac in the white house,>

this part of you rant is right on the money! It is why George W. Bush MUST GO.

He took a healthy economy with no deficit and destroyed it.

He personally signed the document that made it financially responsible for the company I was working for to box up everything and send it to Mexico.

You rant on about how he is such an educated man while I sit here waiting for my lights to be turned off.

Get a grip! # # # # # # # # # # # # # #Or at least a clue.

Or are you independently wealthy.

Try to get a job!!

There are none.
The slight increase in jobs two months ago were from people like yourself only they were un-employed for over a year and had to take low paying service jobs as they got desperate. Now even those have stopped.

Anyway, Hope you find something soon that you are not over qualified for

[K6UEY]

You talk of the intelligence of the American Voter,I had a bet on Clinton's second term that he would not get re-elected, it was so obvious after the first 4 years what was going on,with savings gone and credit cards maxed out, more company's were filing for banckruptacy,the news papers were headlined every monday of the several thousands that were being layed off by large international corporations,many company's were closing their doors to go to Mexico, being run out of business from Clintons Unions.Clinton was cooking the books by changing the way the economy was figured making it look like some thing it was not.We all know what happened, yes tell me about the intelligent voter.
Since you fancy ratings, tell me why did Kerry's rating go down after the DNC convention, history has shown they always go up. Lets see after the Republican convention whose ratings go up and who starts their fatal plunge with the American Voters. Of course the main poll is the one on NOV. 2, or will the DNC say it was unfair again and contest it. Most BUSH backers have remained quiet,just waiting for the moment when being heard makes a difference. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cool.gif

[KA9VQF]

<Anyway, Hope you find something soon that you are not over qualified for>

That’s my problem, everyone tells me that I'm overqualified or under qualified. No middle ground.

My wife is younger than me and still lives in the 50’s or maybe the 60’s she thinks that the man of the house should be able to support the family.

She has 27 years with the same place and is now laid off. She is simply too dumb to get another job. All she knows it what she has done for all this time and refuses to even try anything else.

I don’t know what to do I don’t qualify for any training and can’t afford to go to school on my own. I’m thinking of taking what cash I have and traveling to Florida to see if I can get a job in the rebuilding efforts.

[KA9VQF]

There is a fellow who had a Bush Chaney placard in his yard last election.

He proudly voted for them.


Again has the placard in his yard with the words anybody but rudely painted over it.

I doubt that he will vote for them this time.

[K6UEY]

KA9VQF,
Sorry to hear about your unemployment,and yes I too know what it feels like to be over qualified.During a period while working in Silly-Con Valley Aero Space Industry the economy took a down turn and I went through that very same syndrome, for 2 years I was told I was too over qualified for any thing I came across,and at the same time the Personel people in the Silly-Con Valley took advantage of the turn down to lower the salaries, by all cooperating together. I'm sure it was an illeagal move,but those out of work were not going to complain.You can not blame the companies,it was obvious that any one hired for less money, would leave when the economy resumed,they knew that, we knew that. Bush is generating some 30,000 jobs a month in an effort to overcome the Clinton Era,some old jobs are no longer available,but there are training programs in place for many,often only small amounts of cross training is required to fill the new position.
Like I said ,been there done that,and survived,so you hang in there and hope Kerry is not elected before you find a job,I feel we haven't seen any thing yet,as to what it will be with him.This guy is known to be to the left of Ted Kennedy and that's really a stretch. Lots of LUCK to you,hope you find the one you are looking for....... #73, #ORV

[KA9VQF]

Tell me Orv who was in the whitehouse at that time?

[K6UEY]

KA9VQF,
Well let me put it this way,it was not my friend Ronald Regan, and it was Not George Bush Senior.It was the first time I had seen double digit inflation and Interest rates,and it scared the Hell out of me thinking they were going to last and be the norm.So you do have a little going for you the interest rates are low although if the economy keeps growing as it is they will probably raise them to cool things off,we don't need to go head long into inflation.The Unions were some what quiet this summer,no strikes to drive inflation up maybe because it is an election year.California just raised the minimum wage,bad move ,that will cost some low paid people their jobs,but welfare is a popular thing in this state we offer the highest in the nation,and others come from all over the country to take advantage of it.I think our new Governor will put a stop to that practice though.
Lot's of luck on your search,hang in there good days are ahead,Kerry has not a chance of a snow ball in Hell!! #73, #ORV

[KA9VQF]

Ya know I had a big reply but it would be wasted on you.
Thanks for the kind words.
I doubt that good economic times are soon to come.
I fear that George will win the election and if not he will attempt a military coo.

I don't trust the guy or his close advisors and controlers.

Buy ammo if you can.

Lock and load.

[N8CPA]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 21 2004,01:32)]Well you got a point there,several times in history though those Socialist countries have been wrong,true Kerry will probably follow the suggestions,those countries give,he claims that several foreign groups are backing him,I mean in addition to Al Quada (SP)
What has BUSH done well he turned the Clinton recession back around,and prevented it from going into the depression it was headed for,and it did not take 8 years to do it.He handled 9-11 very professionally and competently,but A liberal would never hear of such things nor even understand why we went to Iraq,but where you guys rest your head not a lot of sound penetrates.
There is no rocket science involved to see why GWB must be reelected,but you Liberals never look past your nose. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
That all the "Als" like Kerry is reason enough Not to vote for him: Al Gore, Al Sharpton, Al Franken, and Al-Qaida.

The Kerry campaign is pitching a royal one and demanding that Bush disavow the "lies" of the SBFT. But Michael Moore was seated next to Jimmie the wimp Carter during the DNC. The whale and the wimp, living in Democritical bliss. I love the irony. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Aug. 20 2004,20:13)]Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 20 2004,19:58)]Most agree Kerry can't do the job as well,but the big money are willing to settle even for a Socialist if they can remove Bush,and screw up this country, actually ousting Bush will have World wide percussions, that will reflect negatively in several world economies. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Like what? Give me one concrete example of a world economy that'll be hurt if Bush doesn't get re-elected.

Oh, maybe you mean the US-Australian Free Trade Agreement (http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/final-text/index.html), where Bush basically gives away many US markets in exchange for Aussie support of operations in Iraq and cherry-picking for a select few US corporations (think pharmceutical companies and you'll get the idea).

Hope you don't enjoy fresh beef.
Still waiting for the example...

[K6UEY]

KA8NCR,
Am I to assume you want to sit there and let me look up the facts to convinvce you that your are wrong,NO WAY JOSE' I'm no ones lacky. I stated my opinion and if you want to prove it wrong have at it. I sure don't know where this 21st Century idea came from that you can't express your opinion with out presenting a log of your reference's.You are the one who disagree's that places the burden of proof on you,it is not my job to keep you informed of what you want to believe.Besides you would not believe it unless it came from the "Daily Worker".You Liberals have your own little sources who only report your side of the picture,so why waste my time giving you the true picture. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 21 2004,06:24)]KA8NCR,
Am I to assume you want to sit there and let me look up the facts to convinvce you that your are wrong,NO WAY JOSE' I'm no ones lacky. I stated my opinion and if you want to prove it wrong have at it. I sure don't know where this 21st Century idea came from that you can't express your opinion with out presenting a log of your reference's.You are the one who disagree's that places the burden of proof on you,it is not my job to keep you informed of what you want to believe.Besides you would not believe it unless it came from the "Daily Worker".You Liberals have your own little sources who only report your side of the picture,so why waste my time giving you the true picture. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif
That's a Kerry style waffle you're holding there.

You're the one that made this assertion, not I. I generally give the benefit of the doubt whether what's said in public Internet posts is just opinion or other drivel or it has merits.

Unfortunately, I can only assume that it's your opinion and that's fine. But make no mistake, it's flawed. There are no global economies that will be hurt if Bush doesn't get re-elected. As I indicated with my post, it's likely certain economies here at home will be hurt because of Bush and his US-Aussie free trade agreement.

You see, Bush has no problem selling-out other people for political gains or the gains of his most ardent supporters.

On the outside, I have little problem with free trade agreements as long as they are balanced. But they are not; Bush's prescription insurance program doesn't allow free trade in pharmaceuticals and the US-Aussie free trade agreement over exposes certain US market segments for the benefit of just a few.

Here's another example. Bush wants broadband into everyone's home. He has told the FCC to make it happen and they're trying to do it with BPL. This again fits with his modus operandi of selling-out certain segments for the benefit of others. You know the story, kill HF communications so his buddies in the power industry and a few BPL equipment providers can make a buck.

How many more examples would you like?

By the way, the 21st century idea of providing references to the ideas you cite is actually quite an old concept. It's known as "credibility". Look it up and pass the word to your Republican sock-puppets, they need some.

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Aug. 20 2004,20:13)]Quote[/b] (K6UEY @ Aug. 20 2004,19:58)]Most agree Kerry can't do the job as well,but the big money are willing to settle even for a Socialist if they can remove Bush,and screw up this country, actually ousting Bush will have World wide percussions, that will reflect negatively in several world economies. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif
Like what? Give me one concrete example of a world economy that'll be hurt if Bush doesn't get re-elected.

Oh, maybe you mean the US-Australian Free Trade Agreement (http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/final-text/index.html), where Bush basically gives away many US markets in exchange for Aussie support of operations in Iraq and cherry-picking for a select few US corporations (think pharmceutical companies and you'll get the idea).

Hope you don't enjoy fresh beef.
Very interesting link.

In Chapter Three (http://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/negotiations/us_fta/final-text/chapter_3.html), I notice that there are price safeguards on many items, including "TOMATO SAUCES NESOI IN CONTAINERS LESS THAN 1.4 KG" and " TOMATO SAUCES NESOI IN CONTAINERS HOLDING 1.4 KG OR MORE."

And, did you know that the Heinz corporation, as in Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry (her full name), has a line of tomato sauces named Classico (http://heinz.com/jsp/classico_f.jsp)?

So the agreement you mention is actually helping Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry finance her latest husband's campaign.

As I said, very interesting link.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unclesam.gif

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Aug. 21 2004,07:09)]So the agreement you mention is actually helping Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry finance her latest husband's campaign.

As I said, very interesting link.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unclesam.gif
I doubt that considering the agreement hasn't been fully ratified in Australia.

Interesting point though that shows that certain segments of the economy benefit while others have been sold out. That happens a lot in this alleged fair government of the people; it just seems that it happens a lot more under the Bush presidency.

How many gifts do the pharmaceutical companies need, anyway? The medicare prescription coverage was one, now this free trade agreement?

[N7AAO]

One could also ask how many "farm subsidies" companies like Heinz need, anyway.

If I were you, I'd drop that line of thought. It is far more damaging to the heir to the Heinz fortune and her latest husband than it is to Dubya, who has no direct links with the pharmaceutical industry.

[KA8NCR]

Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Aug. 21 2004,07:43)]One could also ask how many "farm subsidies" companies like Heinz need, anyway.

If I were you, I'd drop that line of thought. It is far more damaging to the heir to the Heinz fortune and her latest husband than it is to Dubya, who has no direct links with the pharmaceutical industry.
What, Rumsfeld being the ex-CEO of Searle isn't obvious enough?

[N8CPA]

If Kerry wants to use outsourcing as a reason to vote for him, why doesn't he persuade Theresa to open more canneries stateside?

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (ka8ncr @ Aug. 21 2004,09:08)]Quote[/b] (N7AAO @ Aug. 21 2004,07:43)]One could also ask how many "farm subsidies" companies like Heinz need, anyway.

If I were you, I'd drop that line of thought. It is far more damaging to the heir to the Heinz fortune and her latest husband than it is to Dubya, who has no direct links with the pharmaceutical industry.
What, Rumsfeld being the ex-CEO of Searle isn't obvious enough?
Donald Rumsfeld is not Dubya, nor is he married to Dubya.

Also, you said it yourself... ex-CEO. Mr. Rumsfeld is no longer directly connected to the pharmaceutical industry. He severed those connections himself, if memory serves (but I could be wrong on that point).

It's really not that hard to understand, neither President Bush nor his wife has any direct connection with pharmaceuticals. Period.

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