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ai4ep
07-24-2004, 10:42 PM
In your humble opinion; it aint a matter of IF terrorists strike ( you know they will some day ).

My question is : WHERE do you think they will strike ?

Will it be at the democratic / republican conventions...
will it be at the Olympics...
will it be at a shopping area...
will it be at a high school football game...
will it be at a major traffic intersection ?

N7AAO
07-24-2004, 10:51 PM
NYSE or NASDAQ
Any of the Mints
Any state capitol
Any military base

Any of the above in a large city is especially vulnerable.

K6UEY
07-24-2004, 10:54 PM
I am a little confused by this post,are you trying to put together a list of good possible targets in the event they may have missed some thing ? Why do the leg work and planning for them,they have their own people who seek out targets ,don't try to give them a leg up on which targets we think they should hit first.
Besides I doubt they would touch the Democratic convention,that would not be a very smart move,they are counting on Kerry being elected. GWB in for a second term is bad news for the bad guys and they are smart enough to know that. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

w8ob
07-24-2004, 10:58 PM
Like the old saying " loose lips sink ships". Please memorize this and practice it in your everyday ventures.

N7AAO
07-24-2004, 10:58 PM
UEY,

They've already got their list, and are checking it twice... I seriously doubt that we could suggest something that they haven't already considered.

Fortunately, the only thing that makes Spokane a target is Fairchild AFB, and I doubt that base is high on the list of military bases to hit.

KC5SAS
07-24-2004, 11:06 PM
Back in the mid 1990s my militia group tried to figure where someone would attack on April 19. We tossed out many potential targets. I bet on the Houston Ship Channel figuring that it was vunerable and one sunken or burning oil tanker in the bay would shut down commerce there for months. Being in Texas where the Waco assault had occured would make it a more symbolic target in my mind. Others guessed Seattle or other targets. None of us guessed right and were suprised to see the reports coming in from Oaklahoma City the next day. We had been listeing to shortwave radio programs most of the night and expected a series of attacks by several groups that day but except of the OK City attack nothing else occured.
Terrorists will not strike obvious targets. They will pick a time and place which you probably would never put on a list such as this. That's the whole idea. To keep all of us guessing.

W7DJM
07-25-2004, 12:12 AM
Anywhere they want. There won't be a thing you or I can do about it, either.

KB1GYQ
07-25-2004, 12:13 AM
Who need terrorists, we already have political conventions! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif That is enough of a disaster!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

That and we have the "news media" telling them what the soft targets are! You want to improve security, kill your TV.

ai4ep
07-25-2004, 01:13 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif it would APPEAR that ( in some cases, which ONE is enough ) that the AMERICAN media is " anti - american ", revealing our SOFT spots for all ( including terrorists or POTENTIAL terorists ) ways to defeat our fragile country. The media appears to be " anti-BUSH " but that is another thread.

Now back to the original topic......

n0ov
07-25-2004, 01:27 AM
My opinion is we should not discuss something like this in this forum.

At the off chance one of the terrorist SOB's are reading this, I do not want to do anything to help ..............

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

KG4ZQZ
07-25-2004, 01:31 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 24 2004,20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who need terrorists, we already have political conventions! :p That is enough of a disaster!! :p

That and we have the &quot;news media&quot; telling them what the soft targets are! You want to improve security, kill your TV.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
- hmm... considering the Dems are meeting in Boston, here is a story concerning some more 'soft targets':

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2982171a12,00.html

KC9ECI
07-25-2004, 01:33 AM
Disco, WI....I can't and won't say why, but it's certain that will be the next target. I'd suggest to the terrorist that he should dress in all brown, tuck a white flag in his back pocket in case surrender should become an option and stricke between November 29th and December 8th. The 29th and 30th really are the best days to strike.

W5HTW
07-25-2004, 01:56 AM
Your militia group? Probably they'll try to enlist your aid!

What are the likely targets? Some are suggesting the conventions. I rather think the conventions will be a great diversion. Were I a terrorist (foreign or domestic variety) I'd let the convention hog the flame while I found a place less secure to do my deeds. And there are a million such places, from trains themselves to terminals, even bus terminals, communications sites, (no, not two meter repeaters!) major bridges, both roadway and railroad, my gosh, I can't think of as many as they can.

Anyplace lots of people gather. They don't have to be &quot;important&quot; (political, etc) people. Just the body count will do. An amusement park, for example. A beach. A concert.

And where-ever it may be, they have already picked it. We just have to be able to figure out where it is.

Ed

K6UEY
07-25-2004, 02:07 AM
A big Rock Concert might be a consideration,less chance of doing any serious damage!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KB1GYQ
07-25-2004, 02:21 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4ZQZ @ July 24 2004,21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 24 2004,20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who need terrorists, we already have political conventions! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif That is enough of a disaster!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

That and we have the &quot;news media&quot; telling them what the soft targets are! You want to improve security, kill your TV.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
- hmm... considering the Dems are meeting in Boston, here is a story concerning some more 'soft targets':

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2982171a12,00.html[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Given that &quot;s*x is the ultimate weapon&quot;, they best be careful!

KC9ECI
07-25-2004, 02:25 AM
Better yet, a Dixie Chicks or a Linda Ronstadt concert. Any rap concert. Leave the rockers alone, they are getting too old and slow to be much trouble anymore.

KC9ANQ
07-25-2004, 02:31 AM
We dont have to worry about anything

&quot;IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN THE USA&quot;

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

N0ZWG
07-25-2004, 02:57 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC9ECI @ July 24 2004,19:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Better yet, a Dixie Chicks or a Linda Ronstadt concert. #Any rap concert. #Leave the rockers alone, they are getting too old and slow to be much trouble anymore.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

k9kxq
07-25-2004, 03:15 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC9ANQ @ July 23 2004,20:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We dont have to worry about anything

&quot;IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN THE USA&quot;

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I too do not think it will be in the USA, we are well protected and our govenment agencies are at work to insure our safety.

kxq

k5rna
07-25-2004, 03:21 AM
No need to worry about an air attack at the convention.It will be too windy to fly.

KB1GYQ
07-25-2004, 03:27 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k5rna @ July 24 2004,23:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">No need to worry about an air attack at the convention.It will be too windy to fly.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yup, rising hot air causes turbulence.

ai4ep
07-25-2004, 03:47 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif yes I suppose they have already figured out WHERE they are going to strike, just a matter of WHEN they will actually DO something.

Our job, should we decide to accept it is to get them before they get us.

This 8 - track tape will self - destruct in about 45 - 50 seconds...if it aint started already.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif Well, if they are looking for intelligent life, they wont show up around here !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

AC4BB
07-25-2004, 03:55 AM
Linda Ronstadts, House oh, no Micheal Moore.

N7AAO
07-25-2004, 03:56 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AC4BB @ July 24 2004,20:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Linda Ronstadts, House oh, no Micheal Moore.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why would they attack their friends?

w6ez
07-25-2004, 04:05 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ July 23 2004,16:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am a little confused by this post,are you trying to put together a list of good possible targets in the event they may have missed some thing ? Why do the leg work and planning for them,they have their own people who seek out targets ,don't try to give them a leg up on which targets we think they should hit first.
Besides I doubt they would touch the Democratic convention,that would not be a very smart move,they are counting on Kerry being elected. GWB in for a second term is bad news for the bad guys and they are smart enough to know that. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah I can think of some good targets too but I am not posting here. Well except for that one target we all as Americans would hate to see hit. Namely that big spot out in the nevada desert, 100 miles from nowhere in each direction, right in the middle of the range where they test nukes. Now if the terrorist were to drive a bright orange van, with a flashing beacon on top, right out there and detonate a few blocks of plastic explosive that would drive terror into the hearts of all Americans as this area is one of our most unmentioned and sacred places. (PS, Mr Terrorist if you are reading this, please don't use my idea, it would be too, well, terrible,)

And as far as the DNC, it would be just as much a target as the RNC. The Islamic radicals hate the Republicans because they are hard nosed hawlks, and they hate the democrats just as much because they are seen in the Islamic world as promoters of obscene and unholy life styles. This seems to be something all the left wingers miss.

kc9esf
07-25-2004, 04:48 AM
my next bet is the renting of uhauls and filling them with barrels of fuel oil and fertilizer.


lets see the BATFE regulate/restrict THAT.

/still sore about model rocket engine regulations

ai4ep
07-25-2004, 04:54 AM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif according to some of those &quot; terrorists &quot;...the USA is nothing but the &quot;devils play ground &quot; and that we are all evil and the scum of the earth, no matter who we are, or what we do for a lving, or what we watch on tv.

According to them, we should all be dead and burned till there is nothing left but brittle bones to be walked on by them.

But we are &quot; ok &quot; try to rebuild Iraq, to build buildings for THEM to use, to get their ELECTRICITY &amp; WATER &amp; PHONES back working...just get the heck out of town when you are through.

Also, dont forget to arrest / kill all folks who oppose their way of life, even if it is their fellow Iraq people,
who are of a different religion.

n0ov
07-25-2004, 12:41 PM
Idiots!

This topic should be locked down and deleted.

ai4ep
07-25-2004, 01:12 PM
if it is such a bad and evil thread, what are YOU doing here ?

KC2HJN
07-25-2004, 01:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG4ZQZ @ July 24 2004,21:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 24 2004,20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Who need terrorists, we already have political conventions! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif That is enough of a disaster!! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

That and we have the &quot;news media&quot; telling them what the soft targets are! You want to improve security, kill your TV.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
- hmm... considering the Dems are meeting in Boston, here is a story concerning some more 'soft targets':

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2982171a12,00.html[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I guess the &quot;soft targets&quot; aren't descriminatory...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/206962p-178564c.html

N8CPA
07-25-2004, 01:24 PM
Might I suggest? If you can think of a good target, let Homeland Security know, because some hate-filled goofball has probably already thought of it, too.

KC5SAS
07-25-2004, 04:07 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5HTW @ July 24 2004,18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your militia group? #Probably they'll try to enlist your aid!

Ed[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah. Right. I can see that happening. &quot;Hey, Abdul, Call the bisexual atheist libertarian and see if he and his cop buddies want to blow up a building.&quot; Because we have sssooooo much in common. Tell you what, ED. If they call me I'll give them your number.

k6pme
07-25-2004, 05:04 PM
I have a few theories on potential terrorist targets and could probably put forth a good argument to support them. ._._.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

KA3RFE
07-25-2004, 06:48 PM
Well, prior to 9/11, who would ever have thought a hijacked airliner would be used as a bonb to hit WTC? And the hijackers were creative enough to bring box cutters as weapons that would pass through the security that was in place only to look for guns and bombs and not other weapons.

For sure, there will be another attack. There will be more than one future attack. And the attacks are going to be in places we probably have overlooked or are still highly vunerable or at symbolic locations that we don't think are important, but would be important to the terrorists, such as The Prophet's birthday or something.

We simply must be vigilant, observant, and ready to act when it happens and not be giving the enemy other suggestions for targets, so let's drop discussion of where specific targets may be.

73, Pete KA3RFE

N5RLR
07-25-2004, 07:05 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ July 24 2004)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:brown'>A big Rock Concert might be a consideration,less chance of doing any serious damage!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif</span>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
<span style='color:blue'>Not funny. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

In July 2003, terrorists struck at Tushino Airfield in the northwest area of Moscow, Russia. #The airfield was hosting the &quot;Krylya&quot; [Wings] festival -- a popular summer event for young music fans.

A terrorist attack of any public gathering is tragic. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif</span>

n9yb
07-25-2004, 07:41 PM
It is my belief that the largest disruption would happen in one of two ways.

1) Smalltown, USA - send the &quot;we can get you anywhere&quot; even in the center of your country message.

2) In a major marque shopping district during the period between Thanksgiving and Xmas. Every large city has one. It would screw up the economy as a whole if Xmas season shopping was at risk.

-m

PS: for those of you who think we are aiding and abetting (sp?) -- to think your enemy is less intelligent than yourself and has not thought of any of this already is excessively pompous. just because they hate us doesn't make them ignorant - just misguided.

KA9VQF
07-25-2004, 08:57 PM
This is just what all the news agencies did in the first gulf war. Saddam and his crew would send off a SCUD missile and all the news agencies would be right there telling every one how it just missed a synagogue or school or something. They were acting as the best forward observers Saddam could get. Hell they would even put up city maps most of the time.

N7AAO
07-25-2004, 09:47 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ July 25 2004,05:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Idiots!

This topic should be locked down and deleted.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah! That's the ticket! Don't let any information out about where the citizens of this fine Republic could be in danger! Don't allow the free discussion of possible danger! Let's encourage everyone to stick their heads in the sand and ignore the fact that death and desctruction could be coming to their neighborhood soon! Or, better yet, let's issue ruby slippers to everyone and have them click their heels and say &quot;There's no place like home,&quot; three times. Or, we can all gather around the campfire, hold hands, and sing &quot;Kum-by-yah&quot; while the trucks filled with explosives drive up!

Information about threats is one of the best weapons against those threats. And, let's be honest, there are some very devious and intelligent people on the other side, planning these attacks... I doubt that there is much we can say here that will come as a new idea to them.

n0ov
07-25-2004, 10:10 PM
Dave

I stand by my comment. This is an amateur web site, amateur radio not amateur anti-terrorism specialist.

There is nothing contructive about anything being said here.

Nothing about readiness, nothing about preparation. Just let see who will get hit next.

N7AAO
07-25-2004, 10:13 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ July 25 2004,15:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Dave

I stand by my comment. This is an amateur web site, amateur radio not amateur anti-terrorism specialist.

There is nothing contructive about anything being said here.

Nothing about readiness, nothing about preparation. Just let see who will get hit next.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Dan,

Did I miss where I resign my American citizenship when I became a ham?

We are all still citizens (unless I missed that box on the form), and knowing WHERE an attack is likely is a good first defense... one can get away from prime targets!

W5HTW
07-25-2004, 10:25 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC5SAS @ July 25 2004,09<!--emo&amp;:0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5HTW @ July 24 2004,18:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Your militia group? Probably they'll try to enlist your aid!

Ed[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah. Right. I can see that happening. &quot;Hey, Abdul, Call the bisexual atheist libertarian and see if he and his cop buddies want to blow up a building.&quot; Because we have sssooooo much in common. Tell you what, ED. If they call me I'll give them your number.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sorry. I just based that on my own experience with militia members (having worked with a few of them, listening to them talk about guns and emergency rations all day - and, heck, I LIKE guns! Have a few myself) and TV magazine/news shows about the militia. What I got out of it was the militia hates the US Government as much as, if not more than, the Mid-East terrorists. Sort of a common cause?

The ones I knew were burying SKS assault rifles in plastic bags in the woods, along with food, so they can take over the nation. Or living in huts in Texas, 20 guys claiming ten million Texans want to break away from the States. THAT sure sounds like Democracy. One of my co-workers was involved heavily with that group. He sure was paranoid for a week or so after that incident!

Having retired, I no longer work with them, so maybe they have mellowed out some? To be really honest, I thought militia was sorta passe these days, so hadn't given it much thought till I saw your post. Gosh, I would think you militia guys and gals have an image problem with mainstream America. Might want to work on that, to stop folks like me from getting bad impressions, thinking militia is just a bunch of outlaws, like those dudes in the Four Corners incident. Sounds like a lot of Americans may not know your value? Hey, toot your horn a bit, and get the news out. Maybe Fox News would like the story?

None of the militia guys I knew, by the way, qualified as bisexual atheist libertarians. Of course, I didn't ask, and they didn't tell, which suited me just fine.

Nah, don't give 'em MY number! I LIKE the nation AND the Government! Did my stints in military service as well as government service, 'in service of my country!&quot; And, yep, did the cop thing, too. I wouldn't be much use to them. I have no buildings I want to blow up, and no Americans I want to harm. I'd rather make my changes at the voting booth.

k6pme
07-25-2004, 11:24 PM
Hey, are the militia's still worried about the imminent U.N. take over and the secret Government concrete bunkers? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

KC5SAS
07-26-2004, 01:02 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG6QQL @ July 25 2004,16:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, are the militia's still worried about the imminent U.N. take over and the secret Government concrete bunkers? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I don't know. I never was. I was more concerned about the fools who took that stuff seriously.

KC7HDE
07-26-2004, 05:39 AM
I was going to guess where, but I thought again and I think that I would feel real bad if my guess came true.


73
Norm T.

k6pme
07-26-2004, 12:11 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC5SAS @ July 25 2004,18:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG6QQL @ July 25 2004,16:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, are the militia's still worried about the imminent U.N. take over and the secret Government concrete bunkers? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I don't know. I never was. #I was more concerned about the fools who took that stuff seriously.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm glad to hear that.

I had a group try to 'recruit' me once upon a time and that was their argument.

KA3RFE
07-26-2004, 03:38 PM
Well, if one considers the situation for a few minutes, it surely looks like our government is out to get certain sorts of individuals. Ruby Ridge is a good example. It's been shown that law enforcement officers were illegally on private property without a warrant. The property owner, hearing a dog get shot, responded with firearms of his own, not knowing who was there or what they why they were there. The upshot? Hundreds of armed men surrounding a little house with five or six people in it, two of whom were killed. One of those killed was a young boy and the other was an unarmed mother with her baby in her arms when she was killed. The alleged crime that the property owner was wanted on was a simple sawed-off shotgun charge that a paid informer had persuaded the owner to make for him. Not even a felony. To be fair, yes, Randy Weaver had a court date for something and he didn't show for it. But that's not a felony either. Weaver, like Koresh, could have been taken into custody on one of his trips into town. Instead, people died over minor and possibly trump-up charges.

I don't trust my government much any longer as a result of Waco and Ruby Ridge and some other local incidents here where people were shot and killed by LEOs needlessly. LEOs are too freely drawing and shooting their guns.

Just three weeks ago, someone kicked-in my side door while I was asleep. Once I noticed the door, I grabbed my pistol and called 911. I didn't know if the subject was still in my house and I told the 911 op that I was armed and I had a hearing problem and that I would go to my front door without the gun once the cops got there. She said to go on out as they just pulled up.

So what happens? I got three cops hiding behind trees in my front yard with guns pointed at me. One of the idiots had his finger on the trigger of his Glock. I told the 911 op to tell them I wasn't coming out with the gun yet they were acting like I was Dillenger or something. One false move on my part could have resulted in the idiot pulling the trigger on his gun even though I'm waving my hands above my head.

The burglar apparently got scared away by my cockatoo, who makes siren sounds and screams when people come in.

No, sorry, I don't trust government much any more.

73 Pete KA3RFE

k0ews
07-26-2004, 03:49 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, prior to 9/11, who would ever have thought a hijacked airliner would be used as a bonb to hit WTC? And the hijackers were creative enough to bring box cutters as weapons that would pass through the security that was in place only to look for guns and bombs and not other weapons.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Read Tom Clancy's &quot;Debt of Honor&quot; which was written in 1994. The primary bad guy is a Japanese airline pilot(who had an axe to grind with America going back to WW2) who crashes his 747 into the capitol during a joint session of congress. I remember it sounding far fetched at the time, but airliners were the primary thing used in the WTC.
Another thing I thought of with Clancy was when he wrote &quot;Sum of All Fears&quot; the primary target was Denver. He had written that it would be easier to hit a target in middle America because of less security. This really ran through my mind when a person took out a Federal building in Oklahoma City.
It can happen anywhere, using any means possible. We just need to keep our eyes and ears open.

k4uug
07-26-2004, 03:53 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ July 24 2004,18:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">In your humble opinion; it aint a matter of IF terrorists strike ( you know they will some day ).

My question is : WHERE do you think they will strike ?

Will it be at the democratic / republican conventions...
will it be at the Olympics...
will it be at a shopping area...
will it be at a high school football game...
will it be at a major traffic intersection ?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
They won't because that will start and ethnic cleaning of all muslims in the USA do not belive me ask the American Indians! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif It would cause vigilante's to join forces and wipe out these people,their place of worship would be bombed Do not belive me ask an American Indian! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif So the Muslims who know American History would turn on the terrorists and turn them in http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif



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KC5SAS
07-26-2004, 04:19 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KA3RFE @ July 25 2004,11:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, prior to 9/11, who would ever have thought a hijacked airliner would be used as a bonb to hit WTC?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh C##P! #Wake up. #You sound like Condalisa Rice trying to cover for George W. You want to know who could have imagined using a plane as a bomb? Our FBI? #Our CIA? #Our Military? #How about a 17 year old high school student? http://www-tech.mit.edu/V119/N22/littleton.22w.html That's right. #After shooting up the school they had other plans including hyjacking a plane and crashing it into NY.
And after you read that check out the pilot episode of the X-Files spin off series, The Lone Gunmen.
http://www.xfiles.stylicious.com/lonegunmen/1aeb79.php
Wow. Here's a TV series which opens with the threat of a fully loaded plane about to crash into the WTC.
The government is trying to cover it's backside. #They nknew the threat existed and they knew that we had vunerabilities in our security but were unwilling to plug the holes. #Truth be told, without the 9/11 attacks we would never have been able to get the security mesures we now have. #The citizens of this country would not have allowed the inconviences.
But don't even try to tell me that nobody could imagine a plane being used as a bomb. #The frigging kamikaze figured that out more 60 years ago.

k4uug
07-26-2004, 04:31 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC5SAS @ July 26 2004,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">But don't even try to tell me that nobody could imagine a plane being used as a bomb. #The frigging kamikaze figured that out more 60 years ago.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
kamikazes used the aircraft and a bomb so it was a flying bomb not just an airliner full of people and fuel.
No the libs who hate Bush think we should tell the japan sorry for dropping the H-BOMB on ya.Wait a min the Japs attacked us first?Go push I HATE BUSH some where else! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

w6ez
07-26-2004, 08:50 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG6QQL @ July 24 2004,17:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, are the militia's still worried about the imminent U.N. take over and the secret Government concrete bunkers? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm not, are you?

I have always been taught that the &quot;Militia&quot; is every citizen who is NOT wearing the uniform of the armed services.

N7AAO
07-26-2004, 09:04 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC5SAS @ July 26 2004,09:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Oh C##P! #Wake up. #You sound like Condalisa Rice trying to cover for George W.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You could at least spell her name right. It is &quot;Condoleeza&quot;.

m0dhs
07-26-2004, 09:09 PM
You build and live in trailers and wooden houses in places such as &quot; Tornado ally&quot; and you think you can win the fight against terrorists, when you cant even grasp the fact that Tornados, trailer home and wooden houses do not go together? Get real. Ha ha ha, only in America http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

N7AAO
07-26-2004, 09:20 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (m0dhs @ July 26 2004,14:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You build and live in trailers and wooden houses in places such as &quot; Tornado ally&quot; and you think you can win the fight against terrorists, when you cant even grasp the fact that Tornados, trailer home and wooden houses do not go together? Get real. Ha ha ha, only in America http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey, M0DHS, go read the thread about &quot;Sinking to a new low.&quot; And remember this: It didn't happen in America!

k0ews
07-26-2004, 09:29 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You build and live in trailers and wooden houses in places such as &quot; Tornado ally&quot; and you think you can win the fight against terrorists, when you cant even grasp the fact that Tornados, trailer home and wooden houses do not go together? Get real. Ha ha ha, only in America[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

That's why our homes out here in Tornado Alley have BASEMENTS. That's why we have a little thing called HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE. BTW, every geographical part of America has its pitfalls. Earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, ice storms, blizzards. Disasters notwithstanding, we are Americans, and we are not quitters, so what do we do? We put basements in our homes, we engineer our buildings to be able to withstand earthquakes, we enact restrictions against building in flood zones, we build snow plows and sand and salt our roads, and close them when it's necessary and, we build some of the most sophisticated resources in meteorology and storm detection there are in the world. Yep; I'll agree with you, old chap, ONLY IN AMERICA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

m0dhs
07-26-2004, 09:31 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N7AAO @ July 26 2004,14:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif9--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (m0dhs @ July 26 2004,14http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif9)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You build and live in trailers and wooden houses in places such as &quot; Tornado ally&quot; and you think you can win the fight against terrorists, when you cant even grasp the fact that Tornados, trailer home and wooden houses do not go together? Get real. Ha ha ha, only in America http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey, M0DHS, go read the thread about &quot;Sinking to a new low.&quot; And remember this: It didn't happen in America![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Reminds me of the American marine who used the internet to groom a 13 year old and abduct her. Chase ended up in Germany. Seems we all have our perverts but some will go further than others to get what they want, American resolve and determination.

kb3cvo
07-26-2004, 09:41 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (m0dhs @ July 26 2004,23:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N7AAO @ July 26 2004,14:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (m0dhs @ July 26 2004,14http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You build and live in trailers and wooden houses in places such as &quot; Tornado ally&quot; and you think you can win the fight against terrorists, when you cant even grasp the fact that Tornados, trailer home and wooden houses do not go together? Get real. Ha ha ha, only in America <!--emo&amp;http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Hey, M0DHS, go read the thread about &quot;Sinking to a new low.&quot; And remember this: It didn't happen in America![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Reminds me of the American marine who used the internet to groom a 13 year old and abduct her. Chase ended up in Germany. Seems we all have our perverts but some will go further than others to get what they want, American resolve and determination.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Gee...are you implying that the severity and depravity of child molestation is in direct proportion to the distance travelled to commit it?

07-26-2004, 10:04 PM
It must be a bummer to live in a country where all the people worth a crap left 200 years ago.

73, Marty WB2RJR

kb3cvo
07-26-2004, 10:11 PM
Back to the original topic, with our own &quot;news&quot; magazines publishing articles like the below listed link, it should be obvious that nothing we discuss here is new. With friends like &quot;Time Magazine&quot;, who needs enemas? (err....enemies)

http://www.time.com/time....00.html (http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1101040802-672632,00.html)

ai4ep
07-26-2004, 10:19 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif How about fussing at the folks who build / rebuild homes along the east and west coast of FLORIDA, all along the atlantic coastline; along the coast of the GULF of MEXICO, from the Alabama coastline through Mississippi and Louisiana and the coast of TEXAS...knowing dern well, that within 5 - 10 years a hurricane will come along and tear it up ?

You going to fuss at them for a while, or not ?

These folks spend multi-millions of bucks, and it gets all torn apart in a matter of a couple of days.

k6pme
07-26-2004, 10:28 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 26 2004,13:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG6QQL @ July 24 2004,17:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey, are the militia's still worried about the imminent U.N. take over and the secret Government concrete bunkers? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm not, are you?

I have always been taught that the &quot;Militia&quot; is every citizen who is NOT wearing the uniform of the armed services.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Nope! Not me. Lets just say that back in mid 90's during 'militia mania' certain folks thought my 1000 yard skills deserved a recruitment effort. We had some rather...ahhh....interesting discussions. They weren't very interested afterwards, which suited me just fine.

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N7AAO
07-26-2004, 11:19 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WB2RJR @ July 26 2004,15:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It must be a bummer to live in a country where all the people worth a crap left 200 years ago.

73, Marty WB2RJR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh, I dunno, they had a few good ones... Winston Churchill, for example... but the current generation of hams in Great Britain doesn't seem that great to me.

07-26-2004, 11:49 PM
AAO

Winston Churchill's mother was American, and his father had all recessive genes.

73, Marty WB2RJR

N7AAO
07-27-2004, 12:33 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WB2RJR @ July 26 2004,16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AAO

Winston Churchill's mother was American, and his father had all recessive genes.

73, Marty WB2RJR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Maybe they need to throw some chlorine in the gene pool?

07-27-2004, 03:35 AM
Thanks for reminding us about the &quot;forward observers&quot; (journalists) during the scud missile attacks. Forgot about that. Even I could have called Saddam and told him, a little to the right there, now a little bit shorter on this one. Hey, anybody remember that Saddam had real WMD's, in use, during that period. Ooops, the news forgot about those. Talk about acts of restraint, how did the Israeli's keep them selves from lobbing a few missiles back at Saddam during the Gulf War?

KA9VQF
07-27-2004, 03:46 AM
Well,…they did have several scud missiles but they were not considered a real threat. Indeed several of them just blew up on the launch vehical.
Didn’t stop ‘em from using them. What I have always wondered is how Saddam managed to keep breathing after he sent a few to Israel.
Everyone knows the Jews have the best assassins in the world. They are fanatically committed unto death, meaning they would die trying to take out their target.

n7wsb
07-27-2004, 04:28 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ July 24 2004,15:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GWB in for a second term is bad news for the bad guys and they are smart enough to know that. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually the terrorists have already endorsed bush as a canidate for next term,

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,114489,00.html

With endorsements like that how could you lose?