Earth-Directed Sunspot Now Size of 20 Earths

[kg4kww]

<span style='color:red'>From NASA NEWS</span>

<span style='color:orange'><span style='font-size:16pt;line-height:100%'>Earth-Directed Sunspot Now Size of 20 Earths</span></span>

At 20 times the size of Earth, the largest sunspot observed since the fall solar storm onslaught is now pointed directly at Earth. Its unusually large size also means that it's now visible with the naked eye (although you should never look at the Sun without a proper filter). The implications of this spot have scientists on the edge of their seats - if the active region generates coronal mass ejections (CMEs), massive explosions with a potential force of a billion megaton bombs, it will be a fairly direct hit to Earth and its satellites and power grids.

NASA NEWS --- GIANT SUN SPOT DIRECTED TOWARDS EARTH (http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/0723sunspots.html)

Can you imagine the effect that a CME from this sun spot
would have on radio communications on Earth?

[KA9VQF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 23 2004,22:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can you imagine the effect that a CME from this sun spot
would have on radio communications on Earth?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I guess we'll find out.
Wonder how long it took Marvin the Martian to get that PU238 exploding space modulator in position there.

[af2cw]

Current Solar Conditions (http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html)

[K8ERV]

DIVE!! DIVE!!!

TOM K8ERV

[ai4ep]

dern...is this all this ( dude ) does is &quot; gloom &amp; doom &quot; reports ?

1) end of cw
2) no life on saturn
3) giant sunspot threatens life as we know it

geez... what is next ?

attack of the giant mutant radioactive tomato bugs ?

[K9STH]

EP:

No! It will be the Attack of the Killer Tomatoes! Remember the &quot;cult&quot; movie by the same name. Just remember to keep your recording of the song that kills them plus a copy of the sheet music just in case one wears ear-muffs!

But, I don't know about what will help with the Killer Carrots that were spawing at the end of the movie!

This movie is considered by many experts to be the worst movie ever made! However, its popularity comes and goes as each generation becomes exposed to it.

Glen, K9STH

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I never did get the honor of seeing that &quot; cult &quot; movie about the killer tomatoes

I was always stuck with the BATMAN, and SUPERMAN and of course, the ( almost ) never ending &quot;star trek &quot; stuff for years &amp; years ( most of those actors have either went to making better movies, or went to network lawyer shows ( Shatner will be on some take-off of the PRACTICE this fall on abc ...it problably wont last more than a season or two )

Remember the saga of the &quot; killer rabbit &quot;that was supposedly chasing or after one of our past presidents ? It made news for weeks afterwards...if it occurs again, it will problably be a &quot;middle eastern terrorist &quot; with a micro-chip in its brain telling it to get near some one and &quot;blow itself up ' { a suicide rabbit ! }

( silly rabbit, trix are for kids ) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Wouldn't it be cool if the sun blew up? We'd have about eight minutes of awesome propagation before we got the Kp kicked out of us.

[k4uug]

VOICE MSG (http://www.gargaro.com/MaRvInWaVs/new3.wav)

[KB1GYQ]

http://killertomatoes.com/assets/images/movies_images/movies_AKT.jpg

[KG6OPR]

How about &quot;The Attack Of The Killer Cicadas!&quot; http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WA5KRP]

We had a huge solar flare/CME similar to this last year during CQ World Wide. #Everybody thought the event would be ruined. #In fact, the bands absolutely sizzled until about 18:00Z Sunday when we were visited by a &quot;sudden ionospheric disturbance&quot;. #The bands went dead just like somebody threw a switch. #It was so sudden and profound I thought the we somehow blew up the front end of my TS2K. #Scared the hell out of me! #40, 20, and 15 were SILENT. #After searching around for 20 minutes I found a station in Canada on 10. #I broke contest protocol and asked the guy if the bands had dropped out up there. #&quot;Oh heck yea! #Two of our guys thought their radios died.&quot; #The bands started to recover after 45 minutes. #

Just be aware of this particular phenomenon. #SID can be dramatic, and if you don't know about it, you'll think your radio bellied up. #Considering recent solar activity, I'm guessing we may have it show up in our near future.


73


WA5KRP
Texas

[k0ews]

KRP: I remember the same exact thing happening last year on Sunday of the ARRL CW Sweepstakes. I didn't do the CQWW but I do remember we had an X class flare here about 1800 Z. I wonder if we're not talking about the same contest. I remember being on 15, wall to wall QRM, and then it got really quiet. I thought my rig broke. Checked the solar page, and lo and behold, major flare.

[n5tjd]

I remember that X28 flare last November. I got treated to my first aurora, right here in Texas. I had never saw one before and thought I'd have to go to a northern state or Canada to see one. Turns out one of my goals in life was fufilled while sitting outside at my QTH.

It lasted for about 15 minutes, and was a brilliant red. It had &quot;ripples&quot; like a big curtain. I didn't have an HF radio, nor was I a General yet, so I do not know how that flare affected the HF bands.

[kg4kww]

This is what NASA is saying that a CME of this size could look like going through the Solar System. It's scary.

Don't take this lightly!!!

What A Massive CME Going Through The Solar System Could Look Like/ NASA NEWS (http://www.nasa.gov/mpg/61732main_flares4.mpg)

[WA5KRP]

EWS,

It was definitely CQWW. I didn't operate the CW Sweeps - I'm too slow. But you obviously know what I'm talking about. The bands go BONK.

WZB,

Local TV news talked about it be we had too much cloud cover in San Antonio. I've never seen the aurora. Lucky you! Kewl.


WA5KRP
Texas

[KB1GYQ]

Sound like lots of pretty lights, and headaches for HF ops. But since there isn't anything that can stop it, why worry.... Sit outside, operate VHF, and watch the show!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[WA5KRP]

KWW,


If Earth didn't have a magnetosphere and a hundred miles of atmosphere, that would be scary. You and I will never sense it unless we happen to see an aurora. Or we're trying to operate a ham radio.

Relax.



WA5KRP
Sunbaked, Texas

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 23 2004,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://killertomatoes.com/assets/images/movies_images/movies_AKT.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
&quot;doo dee doo doooo
puberty love..&quot;

Isn't that something like the music that killed the tomaterz?

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 24 2004,12:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 23 2004,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://killertomatoes.com/assets/images/movies_images/movies_AKT.jpg[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
&quot;doo dee doo doooo
puberty love..&quot;

Isn't that something like the music that killed the tomaterz?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
you got it... dem toe ma toes gotz better sense then peoples do when it comes to &quot;popular music&quot;.

Can't say the politics represented in the movie is too far off. What I want to know is.... where is People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegatables, or the Society for Prevention of Cruety to Vegatables?? Doesn't anyone care that 1000's of freedom loving tomatoes were stomped under foot?!

[ka5s]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 24 2004,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sound like lots of pretty lights, and headaches for HF ops. But since there isn't anything that can stop it, why worry.... Sit outside, operate VHF, and watch the show!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Imagine...

&quot;A massive solar event has destroyed millions of dollars worth of Broadband over Power Line equipment, causing heachaches for service providers and bringing anquished screams from subscribers. The coronal mass ejection forecast by NASA arrived right on time, wiping out radio propagation, and causing power, telephone and satellite problems from Georgia to Djakarta...&quot;

One can WISH, eh?

Cortland

[ai4ep]

where is djakarta ?

and which GEORGIA are you referring to...the state or the country ?

[KB1GYQ]

Djakarta is the capital of Indonesia.

[KA9VQF]

I’m guessing it took longer for me to down load the video clip than the actual event will take. I wish I could catch that plasmoid and put it in a box and sell all that energy later….sunblock 6000 anyone??

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KA9VQF @ July 24 2004,14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... I wish I could catch that plasmoid and put it in a box and sell all that energy later…[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
watch your email... soon will come the investment opertunites to do just that. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[WA2ZDY]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa5krp @ July 24 2004,09:55)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just be aware of this particular phenomenon. #SID can be dramatic, and if you don't know about it, you'll think your radio bellied up. #Considering recent solar activity, I'm guessing we may have it show up in our near future.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep, I remember it happening in the 70's as I was still at home and a teenager. I was on 20cw, working EU, and then dead. Nothing. Absofrigginlutely NADA. I thought for sure my R4C had taken a powder.

No WWV, no nothing. Then slowly I started to hear locals all trying to figure out what happened. We all commiserated.

Remember, this was before the internet so there was no way to &quot;check the solar page&quot; to see what happened. I had never experienced it before, so I assumed it was a solar event, but we all wondered.

Old Sol is amazing. Good and bad. Maybe after this things will improve on the bands. I'm kinda tired of hearing the next state on 20. I want to hear some DX!

[N2ACX]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif When the Sun farts.......people listen,and tan faster, will my eyes grow really big like that guy in Twilight Zone?

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N2ACX @ July 24 2004,14:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif When the Sun farts.....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Doesn't that belong over on the &quot;cr*p power&quot; thread?

[KA9VQF]

If I remember right there was a major black out in New York city and much of the east and lots of Canada in 1965. It was blamed on a solar flare at the time.

Seems it caused power stations to trip which over loaded one relatively small station that had to try to handle everything. Just a few years ago it happened pretty much the same way.

Don’t really remember the particulars and dates since it didn’t affect me directly it’s just a fuzzy memory here.

[kg4kww]

KB1GYQ Do you really think a Monster Size CME will generate Killer Tomatoes ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

What about Watermellons?

I think it will mean great DX on VHF SSB http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 24 2004,16:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KB1GYQ Do you really think a Monster Size CME will generate Killer Tomatoes ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

What about Watermellons?

I think it will mean great DX on VHF SSB http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
&quot;Giant tomatoes mean bigger pizzas!&quot;

&quot;More people are killed in train wrecks, auto crashes, and heart disease then by any single tomatoe.&quot;


Yup, CME means the &quot;death of amateur radio&quot; and great DX for VHF CBer's. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif time for an update...when is it gonna hit and what part of the planet will it hit first and worst ?

[K8ERV]

I hope it hits California first. And tomato does not end with an &quot;e&quot;.

TOM K8ERV

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ..go git them TOM...

if I see one more post that mentions tomato and they put an E at the end of it, geez... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I just dont know what I will do...problably get up and leave this computer and talk on my raddio !!

I will do just that http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

push me... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K3STX]

I don't know about killer tomatoes, but it ruined my weekend of DXing. I went downstairs to play for the night in the IOTA contest at 0200 and came back upstairs and went to be at 0500 UTC. Perhaps the most horrible conditions I have ever heard, K index of 5 (now 6). It ruined my all-nighter. There was some good stuff scheduled to be on, too. What bad timing.

paul

[N8CPA]

I don't know if an HBO annual tradition, but 24 years ago, they showed the movie on Thanksgiving as their &quot;turkey&quot; dinner movie.

My favorite parts were the tomatoes floating in the pool. #And the humans' secret agent, in disguise, asking the tomatoes if they had any ketchup.

Low brow humor at its finest and cheapest!

[k0ews]

Well, whatever is coming is here. Conditions are absolutely terrible here this morning at 1400 Z in the midwest. Our Sunday morning net on 75 meters, which we can usually get check ins for 200 miles or better, is barely audible, and even the guys 20 miles away are barely in there. Talk about dead bands.....pooooey! I suppose the qrp contest that was scheduled for later this morning will be a futile attempt. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[W4TEY]

The sunspot must have farted big time. HF has left the building. 1900 UTC

[ae2ny]

I'm sorry, I just have to say this, I absolutely rolled laughing when I heard the Marvin the Martian sound file. That my friends, was classic.

73

Anthony-KI4VPR

[kc7jty]

We had a rather bland but definitely noticible aurora last night in N. Idaho.

[KA9VQF]

Naturally this is all my fault. I just got my shiny new Windom in the sky.

[kg4kww]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:red'>AI4EP --- time for an update...when is it gonna hit and what part of the planet will it hit first and worst ?</span>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Oh, no, does this mean the end of the world, EP ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Does my busniess need to order more coffins?

Oh, no, the tomatoes really are going to come here via the CME!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[kg4kww]

This link will help you to understand what a Sun Spot Is!!

Click Here To See More Info On Sun Spots (http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Library/SolarMax/solarmax_2.html)

[K7JBQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8ERV @ July 25 2004,01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I hope it hits California first. And tomato does not end with an &quot;e&quot;.

TOM K8ERV[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I sure miss Dan Quayle.

73,
Bill

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I really aint interested in knowing if the surface of the SUN is smooth, striped or spotty.

As long as it shines when it should ( except of course for cloudy days ).

Please tell us all when this big hugh major sunspot is gonna strike the atmosphere of the planet earth, and how long it will last. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Also, we need to build spacecraft ( remote controlled, or if human control is needed, use terrorists ) to send nuclear waste to the sun...that way we can get rid of our nuclear waste and the terrorists can go visit their god allah or andy or whatever its name is !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kg4kww]

Good Idea EP http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[m0dhs]

As long as the skipfalls sort of America then Iguess we will not have to put up with all the abuse we hear you all writing about! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

English man and a Gentleman!

[G0GQK]

Stock up on Beer http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #Stock up on bread http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif #Keep a few spare logbooks http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif go to bed http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #but not by yourself #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif and when you wake up the nasty sunspots will have gone away

[kg4kww]

Please Click On The Link Below, This CME Thing Is More Serious Than Thought. #Latest From NOAA and NASA.
http://sec.noaa.gov/ImageGallery/stamp/8906201504hhsr.gif

Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Center (http://sec.noaa.gov/advisories/bulletins.html)

[ae4fa]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">A radiation storm, currently at the S2 level, began soon after the eruption was observed on the Sun. An Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME) was also observed and is expected to impact the geomagnetic field early on 27 July. This CME will likely produce periods of strong (G3) geomagnetic storming.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

S2 (current condition) hazards are described as:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Biological: none.

Satellite operations: infrequent single-event upsets possible.

Other systems: small effects on HF propagation through the polar regions and navigation at polar cap locations possibly affected.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
G3 (expected hazards are described as:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Power systems: voltage corrections may be required, false alarms triggered on some protection devices.

Spacecraft operations: surface charging may occur on satellite components, drag may increase on low-Earth-orbit satellites, and corrections may be needed for orientation problems.

Other systems: intermittent satellite navigation and low-frequency radio navigation problems may occur, HF radio may be intermittent, and aurora has been seen as low as Illinois and Oregon (typically 50° geomagnetic lat.)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
To sum up, we're looking at a temporary invconvenience in terms of amateur operations.

Will be very interesting to see how serious the satellite problems will be.

We've seen these conditions before, and we'll see 'em again.

So, stop with the Chicken Little routine &amp; get a life!

[nz3m]

I'm having fun with it!

Point those VHF yagi's to the north and get out your key. Last night, from here in South PA, I worked into MI , IN, ME, and Canada on 2m via the Aurora.

Dave

[k7dlx]

&quot;We're Doomed, I tell ya!

DOOMED!!!!&quot;

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KB1GYQ]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif9--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ae4fa @ July 26 2004,19http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif9)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... An Earth-directed coronal mass ejection (CME) ...expected to impact the geomagnetic field... will likely produce periods of strong (G3) geomagnetic storming.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

S2 (current condition) hazards are described as:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Biological: none.

Satellite operations: infrequent single-event upsets possible.

Other systems: small effects on HF propagation through the polar regions and navigation at polar cap locations possibly affected.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
G3 (expected hazards are described as:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Power systems: voltage corrections may be required, false alarms triggered on some protection devices.

Spacecraft operations: surface charging may occur on satellite components, drag may increase on low-Earth-orbit satellites, and corrections may be needed for orientation problems.

Other systems: intermittent satellite navigation and low-frequency radio navigation problems may occur, HF radio may be intermittent, and aurora has been seen as low as Illinois and Oregon (typically 50° geomagnetic lat.)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
OK! Set out the lawn chair, pass me a beer and the mic to my battery powered VHF rig! Enjoy the show, and work VHF DX cause HF will be useless for a while. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Fun is! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Now, about them giant tomatoes.... anyone seen the sequel?

[af2cw]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ae4fa @ July 26 2004,19:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, stop with the Chicken Little routine ...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So you mean I got an Army helmet and flack jacket for
nothing!!!!!!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif drats, drats and double drats!!

[ae4fa]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm having fun with it!

Point those VHF yagi's to the north and get out your key. Last night, from here in South PA, I worked into MI , IN, ME, and Canada on 2m via the Aurora.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

THAT'S the spirit! By tomorrow night, it should really be cookin'! Hope to catch you.

[KA9VQF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k7dlx @ July 26 2004,18:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">&quot;We're Doomed, I tell ya!

DOOMED!!!!&quot;

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Great now your a DOOMsayer!

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif oh drats...now here we are.........doomed....even BEFORE John Kerry gets in the white house !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[kg4kww]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AI4EP--oh drats...now here we are.........doomed....even BEFORE John Kerry gets in the white house !! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

It's because of the thought of Kerry in the White House that we are doomed!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Now back to this Killer Tomatoe thing. Could A CME really create Killer Tomatoes? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

I got a SH&amp;T Load of tomatoes in the ICE BOX and no BEER. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Better make run to the 7/11.

Also, charge up all the batteries you can, so, you have power for your rigs. And find something warm, soft and cudley to snuggle with.

2 mtr ssb was hopping earlier, I made a contact from FM17 to FN31.

Also, please continue to monitor the Space Weather Center For Updates. Link Below.

Official Space Weather Advisory issued by NOAA Space Environment Center (http://sec.noaa.gov/advisories/bulletins.html)

I wonder how this will effect the rovers on Mars and the probe oribiting Saturn. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Is it here yet ?

[KA9VQF]

as my hero Kool -Aid would say OOOOHH Yeah

[kg4kww]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">AI4EP--- Is it here yet ? [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Is what where yet EP?

The Saturn probe is orbiting Saturn, if that's what you are talking about.

Remember as an Undertaker and one who cares, I have to be prepared for doom and gloom. And also, remember that all sales are final.

However I hope that people will stay cool calm and collected during this thing.

Find a good women snuggle up to her, put your hands were ever and watch the show.

Remember this CME thing could interfear with the democratic convention telecast. Which means we wouldn't be able to see or hear Kerry's speach.

Offical Space Weather Advisory Link (http://sec.noaa.gov/advisories/bulletins.html)

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 27 2004,14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Remember this CME thing could interfear with the democratic convention telecast. Which means we wouldn't be able to see or hear Kerry's speach.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That would be soooooo sweet! Mother-nature pulls the pull on Kerry! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif poor ole KERRY
we might not get to watch him on tv tonight with the interference from the sun........
even the solar system is against him !!

I bet when he jumps he can jump higher than other folks, since gravity is problably less on him than the rest of us, and he may be afraid of drifting off into space.............. so maybe some day he can fly up and sit in the trees,

so he can say &quot; i flew up there &quot;

mebbe EDWARDS will fly up there and get him down !

...setting on that sack of seeds !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 27 2004,14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Find a good women snuggle up to her, put your hands were ever and watch the show.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Might miss the show doing that, -- or become the show for someone else. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[kg4kww]

Well if we keep having storms along the East Coast we will never know what's going on with this CME thing!! All it's been doing is storming left and right and right and left.

[ae4fa]

What do low-level atmospheric storms have to do with it?????????

You expect to see something? #Fireballs, maybe??????????

Sadly, no auroral scatter on 2 here. #40 meters still doing quite well, though . . .

[kg4kww]

Well in my never ending attempt to keep you all updated on current events, I shall attempt to convey to you all, that there is yet more activity getting ready to start in the skies above. What you ask?

The 2004 Perseid Meteor Shower, I say.

Well what is a The 2004 Perseid Meteor Shower?

you ask.
Click Here I say to learn more (http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/watchtheskies/25jun_perseids2004.html)

Click here to view a Meteor Shower and hear it's radar echo (http://www.spaceweather.com/meteors/perseids/images2001/suggscooke1.avi)

Click Here To Learn More About How Meteor Radar Works (http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/nasameteorradar.html)

Enjoy The Show http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

More to follow on the possible CME !!!!

[af2cw]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 28 2004,02:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">More to follow on the possible CME !!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Greg,

# # What are you trying to say/prove concerning this
CME? This phenomenon occurs all the time, granted
maybe not to the extent it is being predicted, but it
occurs.

# # The gloom and doom you are insinuating is really
quite funny. What do you think is going to happen as
a result of the CME? Please explain in detail all that
will happen to us common folk.

I don't mean, put a hyperlink up, I would like to hear
it from you directly. I would like you to explain it in your
words so we can truly appreciate the crux of this matter.
Put it in simple terms for all of us to understand.

[kg4kww]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KG2HG -- Please explain in detail all that
will happen to us common folk.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Did you ever see that movie, where the machines started to come to life during a major CME on Earth? The movie where the semi trucks were attacking people stranded at a gas stop, somewhere down South. That phenomenon was cause by a serious CME that played with our atmosphere in a very serious way. Don't you think that something like that could happen? Or people could be exposed to high levels of radiation and die from that?
I'm concerned not only about the effects on radio, but people. We don't really know enough about these CME's to say what a major hit from one could do. It's not doom and gloom, it's concern mixed with some humor.

Don't forget about The 2004 Perseid Meteor Shower.

[ae4fa]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We don't really know enough about these CME's to say what a major hit from one could do[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually, we do - you may not - but we do. #It's all laid out if you'd just bother to read it.

Oh, wait - - - that would involve actually LEARNING something . . .

Much more fun to simply apply what you saw in some cheesy, low-rent sci-fi flick . . .

[af2cw]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 28 2004,20:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Did you ever see that movie, where the machines started to come to life during a major CME on Earth? The movie where the semi trucks were attacking people stranded at a gas stop, somewhere down South. That phenomenon was cause by a serious CME that played with our atmosphere in a very serious way. Don't you think that something like that could happen? Or people could be exposed to high levels of radiation and die from that?
I'm concerned not only about the effects on radio, but people. We don't really know enough about these CME's to say what a major hit from one could do. It's not doom and gloom, it's concern mixed with some humor.

Don't forget about The 2004 Perseid Meteor Shower.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes I've seen the movie. Do I think it could happen?
No I don't, do you?

High levels of radiation? #I thought that was one of
wonders of the atmosphere, to act as a filter, to help
block out harmful radiation. #I'm also certain that
scientists are monitoring background radiation and are
studying this for future reference. I've never heard of
someone dying as a direct cause of a CME, have you?

I can almost buy the concern, notice I said almost.
This ole world has been exposed to numerous CME's in
it's life, as well as the human race. I have not seen any
scientific proof that CME's have caused the death of
one, ten, one hundred, or one thousand people. Until I
see some definite proof that a particular CME has
caused the death of someone, I am not overly worried
about it.

Now those with cell phones, satellite dishes might have
a problem, not to mention power grids(my line of work).

The humor aspect of your posts, well let's just say that
it has overstayed its welcome. It tends to make the
party attempting the humor to look a bit foolish and not
taken too seriously.

[kg4kww]

Well, I don't know if what happened in that movie could ever happen in real life,but, it does make one stop and think. #Right now, I would like to all hams band together and stop all this license class bashing. This is one of the reasons that the hobby is in the crapper.

Think about it the next time you are in the crapper.

[w6ez]

Just when are the effects of this big sunspot supposed to kill all of us and the rest of the dinosaurs?

Just so it doesn't fry the Direct TV satallites.

[kg4kww]

Here's the latest info that is known about the Sun and it's spots.

<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>Solar quakes fuel hot spikes on sun</span></span> (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5540180/)
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/040728/040728_spicule_jets_hmed.hmedium.jpg

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif dern space sure got a lot noisier and dangerous since the 1970 - 1980 s...

1) asteriods barely missing earth
2) solar flares
3) &quot; boogers &quot; found on MARS surface... where are they and who/what left them there ?
4) no telling what NASA has found at / near SATURN and it s moon s surface...sure the earth probes have already told them of how nice and peaceful that EARTH is, now what ever it IS will want to come to visit and take over EARTH.

That is all we need...alien life forms showing up at the Democratic National Convention...no one will recognise them or pay any attention to them...should blend in with the crowd extrememly well !!

[kg4kww]

Here's the latest Solar and Geophysical Forecast From NOAA


<span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>Latest Solar Forecast From NOAA</span></span> (http://sec.noaa.gov/forecast.html)

The next couple of days could be interesting!!!

[K6UEY]

Is the end of the world coming , AGAIN ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[KA8NCR]

Yes. So be sure to get those QSL cards in the mail.

[K4JSR]

NEVER ASK A KILLER TOMATO TO PASS THE CATSUP!

Sunspots? Now even the Sun has commercials? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

73, Cal K4JSR
Asleep in Ga.

[kg4kww]

Ok mates, in my never ending battel to keep you on top of things, Here's the Latest WWV - Geophysical Alert Message (http://sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/latest/wwv.txt)

Also, here's a little added extra I through in for good measure.

Aurora And How To View It (http://sec.noaa.gov/Aurora/)

Now, I don't know if it's da end of da world. And lets not start a panic untill it's needed. All I can say is if it's the end of the world, then I hope you made your peace as you prepare to make the best qso's of you life thanks to a giant sun spot.

How would Captian Kirk deal with this giant CME thing?

Do you know?

[n5tjd]

I don't know if it was already addressed previously in the thread, but that movie was called &quot;Maximum Overdrive&quot; and I think the earth was passing through the tail of a comet or something like that. I also believe it was written by Steven King.

Anyone know what the Kp index was when that X28 flare occured?

[kg4kww]

KD5WZB---- Here is some info that I hope will be of help to you and others.

Latest Geomagnetic K-indices (http://sec.noaa.gov/alerts/k-index.html)

<span style='color:red'>Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 772
Issue Time: 2004 Jul 30 0519 UTC

ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Threshold Reached: 2004 Jul 30 0500 UTC
Station: GOES12
Observed Yesterday: Yes
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 167000 pfu</span>

Latest Space Weather Alerts (http://sec.noaa.gov/alerts/archive/current_month.html)

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ July 29 2004,02:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That is all we need...alien life forms showing up at the Democratic National Convention...no one will recognise them or pay any attention to them...should blend in with the crowd extrememly well !![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Already happened! The DNC nominated someone who is supposed to have around 20 years experiance in &quot;public service&quot;, without spending much of any time highlighting his record in public service... either they just nominated an alien who recently arrived, or they figure his record won't help the campain - either way it's not pretty. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[kg4kww]

KB1GYQ The DNC nominated an alien life form Kerry.
Maybe he will scare away the CME!!!!

[N8CPA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD5WZB @ July 30 2004,02:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I don't know if it was already addressed previously in the thread, but that movie was called &quot;Maximum Overdrive&quot; and I think the earth was passing through the tail of a comet or something like that. I also believe it was written by Steven King.

Anyone know what the Kp index was when that X28 flare occured?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If it's the story I'm thinking of, by King, when it appeared in one of his short story anthalogies, the machines finally made their demands known by using--uh oh! I better not say it! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ July 31 2004,00:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KB1GYQ The DNC nominated an alien life form Kerry.
Maybe he will scare away the CME!!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Does he eat cats? The last A.L.F. I remember did.

[kg4kww]

Did You that Sun Spicules can affect radio transmissions?

Sun Spicules are usually associated with concentrated magnetic tubes called flux tubes, giant loops that link one region of magnetic polarity to another by arcing out from the surface and back to another spot thousands of miles away. The tubes are mostly vertical, but some are inclined away from the vertical, and that's where the sound waves tend to leak out

Sun Spicules Racing Outward (http://zorak.lmsal.com/bdp/press/images/nature_hm700_new0.qt)

Latest WWV - Geophysical Alert Message (http://sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/latest/wwv.txt)

Is a Solar Storm on The Way? could be. Only the shadow knows for sure.