Think about this...

[KB1JCY]

Will all the flame wars and pig fighting matter when you're SK and six feet under? Think about how you can contribute than tear the Amateur Radio service down. A human life is incredibly short compared to how long the universe has existed. Thanks.

[ky5u]

Well put JCY! Most important rules of Amateur Radio:

1. Enjoy Amateur Radio
2. Let others know how much you enjoy Amateur Radio
3. Ignore those who would seek to effect your enjoyment.

73

[KB1JCY]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG4YO @ July 23 2004,03:52)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well put JCY! #Most important rules of Amateur Radio:

1. Enjoy Amateur Radio
2. Let others know how much you enjoy Amateur Radio
3. Ignore those who would seek to effect your enjoyment.

73[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Spend an evening with a practicing Buddist. Puts things in perspective.

Even though life is suffering, there is too much suffering in the world. Compassion is the antidote for suffering.

As one poster used to end his posts with this tag line..


&quot;There is no problem that cannot be solved through the suitable application of high explosives!&quot;

(My apologies to the guy who used it. I forget who it was.. but it's a good one!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

&quot;A Smith And Wesson Beats Four Aces Anyday!&quot;

[KB1JCY]

Here's the Amateur Code:

http://www.arrl.org/acode.html

Print it out and stick it next to your computer. Read it before your post on a forum or before you get on the air.

[N7AAO]

How about taking my earlier suggestion and combining it with this one... sit down in front of the radio with a young person and see if you can spark some interest in ham radio. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Beam me up, Scotty!

[KB9YCO]

Polarizing and simplifying the issues is certainly nothing new; this being an election year there are some that have it down to an art form, albeit a sick one.
There does seem to be much more worry and frustration these days, it's really no suprise that it has trickled down into amateur radio. We can only hope that the majority of amateurs out there (regardless of license class, political affiliation, or philosophy) will continue to show the positive side of amateur radio for emergency communications, homeland security, advancing the art and technology of radio, and for just the plain enjoyment of communicating with others that share a similar interest.

[WB2WIK]

Act today as though each act will be your last, and you'll behave better.

Life is indeed short, and remember &quot;When you've been dead 100 years, you've just started being dead.&quot;

WB2WIK/6

[k0ews]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Polarizing and simplifying the issues is certainly nothing new; this being an election year there are some that have it down to an art form, albeit a sick one.
There does seem to be much more worry and frustration these days, it's really no suprise that it has trickled down into amateur radio. We can only hope that the majority of amateurs out there (regardless of license class, political affiliation, or philosophy) will continue to show the positive side of amateur radio for emergency communications, homeland security, advancing the art and technology of radio, and for just the plain enjoyment of communicating with others that share a similar interest. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Yeah, what Brett said. You know, I don't think the members of either side of this great debate will change the minds of the other side. Simply not going to happen. I like to discuss the various issues myself, as the devil is in the details, and it turns out that we all have most of the same things in common politically. What I find really interesting is asking questions of both sides, and then really, really listening, and not trying to convince them to agree with me. After all, they are entitled to their opinion whatever it is. You know, the best elected representative I ever had was when I lived in Iowa. 13 years ago, in the leadup to the Gulf War, there was a vote looming in the Senate to give President Bush the authority to use military force. Senator Grassley spent many a weekend traveling around the state to town meetings. His stance was that he knew what his opinion was, but was asking people with opposing views to speak and he would listen; not convince them of his opinion, but listen to theirs. He was the only Republican to vote against using the military in that war, but he really had heard both sides of the issue, and listened to his people. That's called a discussion. How does that apply here? We don't listen enough. Folks on both sides have strong views on many issues that won't change. We should really LISTEN and hear what they are really saying. That's just good policy in national politics, office politics, and especially amateur radio. That's called respecting the other side's opinion and that's what makes a democracy work. I for one am glad we live in a 2 party system and that we get to do this; it keeps us honest! Can anyone out there name a one party system that worked better? I didn't think so.
Most of the banter I see on the boards starts nice, but then it turns to flame throwing in a big hurry, and that's where the listening stops and the peeing contest begins.

[KB1JCY]

Posted at the reception desk of a client:

&quot;If you are shouting, I can't hear you&quot;

[kc0ebm]

Yes, its a shame that people make up their minds and hold bitterly to a concept without ever listening to the other side at issue.

If there was more honest dialog and a genuine interest in finding common ground, most issues could be resolved without a fight.

But all too often, a pundant will blindly jump to one side of an issue as though it were their own issue.

Experience taught me about 3 years ago that there are 2 sides to every story. Had I gotten the other side before I launched headlong in defense of the side I chose to defend, I would definitely have taken the other side at issue.

Same goes for political discussions.

EBM

Foks..

Please keep the DISTINCTION quite separate.

1) 'The Amateurs Code' is written specfically for, and about, how one comports oneself while OPERATING within AMATEUR RADIO.

2) The INTERNET (even those placed populated by hams) IS NOT AMATEUR RADIO as is the two are NOT equal, connected, or related - other than by the topical areas discussed or the fact that most of us are licensed hams.

Don't mix Plasma and Oranges.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ...and always remember to change your ARM &amp; HAMMER baking soda in your refrigerator at least once every 6 ( six ) months.

[N7AAO]

... and always remember to wear clean underwear in case you're in an accident so you don't embarrass your mom. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB1JCY]

Everytime you hijack a thread, God accellerates the FCC's approval of BPL. Just a reminder.

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb1jcy @ July 24 2004,09:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Everytime you hijack a thread, God accellerates the FCC's approval of BPL. Just a reminder.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
In that case, it should be in place universe-wide by now...

[w5zzq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WB2WIK @ July 23 2004,09:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Act today as though each act will be your last, and you'll behave better.

Life is indeed short, and remember &quot;When you've been dead 100 years, you've just started being dead.&quot;

WB2WIK/6[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
When you're dead - you're just DEAD! Larry......

[w5zzq]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ July 24 2004,06:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ...and always remember to change your ARM &amp; HAMMER baking soda in your refrigerator at least once every 6 ( six ) months.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Change that battery out in the smoke detector...........Larry

[kc7jty]

I can't enjoy amateur radio. I'm not interested in morse code.

[w8idb]

... and always remember to wear clean underwear in case you're in an accident so you don't embarrass your mom. #

If you are in an accident, chances are you will soil your underwear anyhow (cleaned that one up pretty good), so why bother.

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K3FT @ July 24 2004,08:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't mix Plasma and Oranges.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Add some vodka to that and you might have the next great drink!
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KB1JCY]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ July 24 2004,07:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can't enjoy amateur radio. I'm not interested in morse code.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
2/10

With all due repsect, IMO, that a cop-out. The hobby is like a huge Chinese buffet restaraunt. There's tons of fun even for a Tech. Have you tried sideband on 2m? There's satelite work too. Amateur radio is more than CW. It's all about communicating.

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb1jcy @ July 24 2004,21:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ July 24 2004,07:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can't enjoy amateur radio. I'm not interested in morse code.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
2/10

With all due repsect, IMO, that a cop-out. The hobby is like a huge Chinese buffet restaraunt. There's tons of fun even for a Tech. Have you tried sideband on 2m? There's satelite work too. Amateur radio is more than CW. It's all about communicating.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I believe the poster was employing sarcasm (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=sarcasm).

[K8ERV]

There was a recent cartoon of a guy selling underwear outside of the hospital. Bet he made a fortune!!

TOM K8ERV

[N8CPA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8ERV @ July 25 2004,04:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">There was a recent cartoon of a guy selling underwear outside of the hospital. Bet he made a fortune!!

TOM K8ERV[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I read an interview with James Lear, several yeas ago. #He talked about an engine failure in an early prototype of the Learjet: #&quot;How scared I was is between me and my laundry sevice.&quot;

[G0GQK]

Man that's deep thinking http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[KA3RFE]

I'd make some sort of pithy comment here, but I'm all pith out. Or is that off? Shrug....

73, Pete KA3RFE

[KB1JCY]

I'll contribute to the thread drift:

Anybody remember that bit on Saturday Night Live, &quot;Deep Thoughts by Jack Handey&quot;?

[KC9ECI]

&quot;I don't think I'm alone when I say I'd like to see more and more planets fall under the ruthless domination of our solar system.&quot;

* DEEP THOUGHTS *

[K4JSR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 24 2004,18:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif8--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K3FT @ July 24 2004,08http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif8)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't mix Plasma and Oranges.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Add some vodka to that and you might have the next great drink!
#http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Would that be a &quot;Torx&quot; Screw Driver?
Of course you could mix plasma, prune juice and vodka.
That would be a &quot;Pile Driver&quot;. Or worse yet;
Mix plasma, prune juice, milk of magnesia and tequila;
You would have a &quot;Mexican Stand-Off&quot;.
Mix plasma, tomato juice, gelatin and vodka and you
could have a &quot;Bloody Clot&quot;.

Bon Apetit! Mixed drinks for a mixed bag of hams! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

73, Cal K4JSR
Chigger, Ga. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb1jcy @ July 22 2004,09:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will all the flame wars and pig fighting matter when you're SK and six feet under? Think about how you can contribute than tear the Amateur Radio service down. A human life is incredibly short compared to how long the universe has existed. Thanks.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
But still, it is cool to have the meanest pig on the block.

[K3XR]

QUOTE:kb1jcy,July 23 2004,09http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif1]Here's the Amateur Code:

http://www.arrl.org/acode.html

Print it out and stick it next to your computer. Read it before your post on a forum or before you get on the air.



What does the Amateur's Code have to do with posting on #QRZ, or any other site on the Web. #That's a bit like feeding cat food to a chicken or reading your drivers manual when your dvd player stops working. #Posting on a web site, as far as I can tell, does not require you even possess an Amateur Radio License.

DAN, K3XR

[W0BLH]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc0ebm @ July 24 2004,02:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, its a shame that people make up their minds and hold bitterly to a concept without ever listening to the other side at issue.

If there was more honest dialog and a genuine interest in finding common ground, most issues could be resolved without a fight.

But all too often, a pundant will blindly jump to one side of an issue as though it were their own issue.

Experience taught me about 3 years ago that there are 2 sides to every story. #Had I gotten the other side before I launched headlong in defense of the side I chose to defend, I would definitely have taken the other side at issue.

EBM[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
EBM

Tommy, again your self-assessment is 100% correct and I whole-heartedly agree with you. Whatever you were taking, or on, when you made the posting you should continue with. I don’t know what a pundant is, but a pundit is a “learned man,” and I question that remark in your posting. Otherwise, you are right on.

It is a shame that the experience you speak of that was self taught took you 3 years to realize that there are indeed 2 sides to every story. Now 3 years later, after much frustration, you finally see the other side of the issue when it is too late. All the Buds have moved on.

Amateur radio is fun!

BLH

[9V1VV]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Will all the flame wars and pig fighting matter when you're SK and six feet under? Think about how you can contribute than tear the Amateur Radio service down. A human life is incredibly short compared to how long the universe has existed. Thanks.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
JCY - It's refreshing to read something like this. Although the internet is a great tool for learning and research, it can lead to misunderstandings, pent-up rage and frustration with a person who in other circumstances may have become a friend. Unfortunately we can't just sit down and have a beer and agree to disagree, in a civilized manner.
You probably know at least the rudiments of Buddhism and the law of karma. The same law is expressed in the holy Bible :

&quot;Whatesover a man soweth, that shall he also reap&quot;
(Gal 6:7)