A LOOK BACK AT APOLLO 11

[WA5KRP]

Every time I see images (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/sci_nat_apollo_11_as_never_seen_before/html/1.stm) from America's astronauts walking the moon's surface, I genuinely wonder how we ever convinced those guys to ride a contraption that looks far less roadworthy than my kids' rusty ol' go-cart. #Personally, I think they got a Mickey followed by an amphetamine chaser.

The real question is..........how did they fit those juevos into a space suit? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/ups/sicdeth/headscratch.gif



WA5KRP
Texas

[N7AAO]

Thanks for the pics!

I was about 3 when they landed, I think, so it's not surprising that I don't remember a lot about it.

Beam me up, Scotty, and set course for the Apollo 11 landing site. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[n9yb]

I had the high privledge and honor of meeting Mr. Armstrong a few years ago along with my son. Some day he will be old enough to appreciate his conversations with Mr. Armstrong. I on the other hand, already do.

[k0ews]

I'm in the same boat as AAO, pretty young to remember the first one, but I was at it's liftoff at Cape Canaveral. Matter of fact, I think I went to 4 of the moon shots all told, some of my first memories are of the launches, and I can remember being there, but cannot remember appreciating it. My dad worked for one of the contractors, McDonald Douglas, and most of the neighborhood kids in Merritt Island had parents that worked at the same place. I vividly remember standing on the beach in Titusville for them, and being more interested in looking for things on the ground than the big rocket sitting across the Indian River. I remember a couple of the launches quite well and the impression that it gave me; the one thing I do remember was that they took seemingly forever to get going off the pad, unlike the space shuttle. I just find it hard to believe that in over 30 years, we've never gone back.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 22 2004,14:09)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm in the same boat as AAO, pretty young to remember the first one, but I was at it's liftoff at Cape Canaveral. #Matter of fact, I think I went to 4 of the moon shots all told, some of my first memories are of the launches, and I can remember being there, but cannot remember appreciating it. #My dad worked for one of the contractors, McDonald Douglas, and most of the neighborhood kids in Merritt Island had parents that worked at the same place. #I vividly remember standing on the beach in Titusville for them, and being more interested in looking for things on the ground than the big rocket sitting across the Indian River. #I remember a couple of the launches quite well and the impression that it gave me; the one thing I do remember was that they took seemingly forever to get going off the pad, unlike the space shuttle. #I just find it hard to believe that in over 30 years, we've never gone back.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'll be doggoned, EWS, my Dad worked for GE, and I remember seeing some of the rocket launches from &quot;Cape Carnival&quot; too. Not sure if they were the same ones you saw, tho, but we were probably in Florida at about the same time. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Mind you, I will never go back to Florida if I have my way... too darned humid.

Beam me up, Scotty!

[k0ews]

That's really cool, and a heck of a coincidence! We moved out of there in 72, to St Louis for a while, and then to Iowa. Dad got out after his company lost the shuttle bid to Rockwell. My uncle also worked on the moon shots; he was at Collins at the time, and they did the radios for them.
Anyway, no, I've not been back since I was a kid, and Iowa is too humid for me now that I'm in the Black Hills, much less Florida.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 22 2004,14:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">That's really cool, and a heck of a coincidence! #We moved out of there in 72, to St Louis for a while, and then to Iowa. #Dad got out after his company lost the shuttle bid to Rockwell. #My uncle also worked on the moon shots; he was at Collins at the time, and they did the radios for them.
Anyway, no, I've not been back since I was a kid, and Iowa is too humid for me now that I'm in the Black Hills, much less Florida.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Try 7-land... very little humidity at all.

One of these days I'll have to look ya up for a ragchew. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Beam me up, Scotty!

[k0ews]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Try 7-land... very little humidity at all.

One of these days I'll have to look ya up for a ragchew. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Beam me up, Scotty! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

As a matter of fact, 7-land is only 10 miles away! 10 miles to Wyoming and about 20 to the Montana border! Ragchew indeed! I look forward to it! 73 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 22 2004,14:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Try 7-land... very little humidity at all.

One of these days I'll have to look ya up for a ragchew. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Beam me up, Scotty! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

As a matter of fact, 7-land is only 10 miles away! #10 miles to Wyoming and about 20 to the Montana border! #Ragchew indeed! #I look forward to it! #73 #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Where and when do ya usually hang out?

I am most active on PSK31 on 20m.

By the way, you're a bit farther from my QTH... I am in eastern Washington part of 7-land.

Beam me down a radio, Scotty!

[k0ews]

I have been into CW a lot lately but still run digital a bit. Matter of fact, I just did the RTTY contest last weekend. I used to do PSK31 on 20 quite a bit, and as I recall, I used to have a pretty good path into western WA. Not sure about eastern WA. I may have to go looking for you one of these evenings!

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 22 2004,14:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have been into CW a lot lately but still run digital a bit. #Matter of fact, I just did the RTTY contest last weekend. #I used to do PSK31 on 20 quite a bit, and as I recall, I used to have a pretty good path into western WA. #Not sure about eastern WA. #I may have to go looking for you one of these evenings![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Actually, right now I don't have a rig of my own, so I use the W4MQ RemoteBase... and its antenna is in Virginia.

Maybe when I can afford my own radio, and can figure out an antenna that won't upset my landlady...

Beam me up, Scotty!

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa5krp @ July 21 2004,14:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Every time I see images (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/04/sci_nat_apollo_11_as_never_seen_before/html/1.stm) from America's astronauts walking the moon's surface, I genuinely wonder how we ever convinced those guys to ride a contraption that looks far less roadworthy than my kids' rusty ol' go-cart. Personally, I think they got a Mickey followed by an amphetamine chaser.

The real question is..........how did they fit those juevos into a space suit? http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/ups/sicdeth/headscratch.gif



WA5KRP
Texas[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I had been out of high skool a year when that happened. Back then, I was so stoked on the whole moon landing program I would have gone even if I had known it was a one way trip.

Now, there isn't enough money anywhere.

[ky5u]

We stopped going to the moon because we needed the money to fight poverty, etc. Well, over 30 years later there is still poverty in the US and we wasted the opportunity to aspire to more in humanity than just war and politics.

[K0RGR]

The night Apollo 11 landed - shortly after the landing, I got on the air and worked a UA0 in Siberia.

In those days, we were definitely not friends with the Russians. Surely, their government propaganda machine would never allow news that the dreaded Amerikanskis had beaten their intrepid people's space program to the moon.

I was amazed when the op on the other end sent me &quot;congratulations on Apollo 11&quot;! At that point, I knew that this was news so big, that it couldn't be stopped.
Sadly, I don't know if the Chinese people have ever been officially told of this!

This is also one of the axes I grind about Fox news. They aired a &quot;documentary&quot; about the moon landing that was far, far, less balanced and reasonable than anything Michael Moore has ever done! They slanted everything to &quot;prove&quot; that it was all a hoax. They took statements from NASA and the astronauts themselves out of context. They made no attempt to balance the charges made by the conspiracy buffs with scientific fact.

The astronauts left a laser reflector on the moon. At the Mt. Hamilton observatory outside San Jose, you could see the reflection of laser beams fired through the telescope and being reflected. Another part of the elaborate hoax, I suppose.

The Japanese were supposed to be sending orbital vehicles to the moon that might be capable of getting photos of the landing sites from orbit. I've been waiting for a few years now for our astronauts to be vindicated!
I hope I am still around when we (or the Chinese for that matter) go back there.

[AG3Y]

Yes, and the Earth is FLAT , too !

Check out this web site, for irrefutable proof !

Especially note item # 14

http://www.flat-earth.org/platygaea/faq.html

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[k0ews]

RGR: Great story! Yeah, it burns me everytime they push that hoax theory down our throats. I remember last December when Bush came out with pushing the idea of the Moon again, along with going to Mars. I was telling my kids in class about it, and some 17 year old kid says to me, &quot;Wow, do you think they'll actually GO this time?&quot; It floored me. Dare I say, that a certain amount of cynacism in a society is probably healthy, but when we start doubting everything then there certainly is a problem. Fact is, we went. Who would have benefited the most from us NOT going and it being a hoax? The Russians. Who had the greatest capacity to prove that we didn't? The Russians, but the've never said a word. Also, with all of the leaks to the press from so many different areas of government, do you actually think for one minute that the government could cover something that big up? No way.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 23 2004,13:41)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">RGR: #Great story! #Yeah, it burns me everytime they push that hoax theory down our throats. #I remember last December when Bush came out with pushing the idea of the Moon again, along with going to Mars. #I was telling my kids in class about it, and some 17 year old kid says to me, &quot;Wow, do you think they'll actually GO this time?&quot; #It floored me. #Dare I say, that a certain amount of cynacism in a society is probably healthy, but when we start doubting everything then there certainly is a problem. #Fact is, we went. #Who would have benefited the most from us NOT going and it being a hoax? #The Russians. #Who had the greatest capacity to prove that we didn't? #The Russians, but the've never said a word. #Also, with all of the leaks to the press from so many different areas of government, do you actually think for one minute that the government could cover something that big up? #No way.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I get a laugh whenever someone claims there is a deep dark conspiracy in the government. Consider Watergate... the people involved had tremendous power and money, and a very definite interest in keeping it quiet, and how long did the secret last? If memory serves, about 10 days. And it was an insider that spilled his guts. And you wanna tell me that someone can keep a big secret for more than two weeks in DC? Don't make me laugh!

I just gotta... BEAM ME UP, SCOTTY!

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> It floored me. Dare I say, that a certain amount of cynacism in a society is probably healthy, but when we start doubting everything then there certainly is a problem. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

It is all part of the master plan by those who are the servants of &quot;the dark side.&quot;

Of course once &quot;they&quot; gain control they will re-write history and then no doubt or cynacism will be allowed. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Ok back to earth. Just when did this hoax thing about the moon landings start and who started it?

[WA5KRP]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 23 2004,15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just when did this hoax thing about the moon landings start and who started it?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Wayne Green started it in 1963. As far as I know, nobody has ever told him what happened in '69.



WA5KRP
Texas

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wa5krp @ July 23 2004,14:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 23 2004,15:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just when did this hoax thing about the moon landings start and who started it?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Wayne Green started it in 1963. #As far as I know, nobody has ever told him what happened in '69.



WA5KRP
Texas[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh, come on, if he hasn't heard about it yet, the guy must be living under a rock in Lower Slobovia. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[w6ez]

OH no! Poor ol' Wayne Green gets blamed again.

What was he saying in '63? That we weren't really strapping folks to rockets and hoping for the best?

[KA9VQF]

I’d love to go but I can’t handle the G-forces of a good roller coaster. I hurl on those ‘airplane’ rides. I can however just manage on a Ferris wheel, I can only guess what would happen if I were eternally falling.
Messy.
I remember in the early ‘60 everyone thought we would have flying cars, space stations, and colonies on the Moon and Mars by 2000.
Wonder what happened.
I guess the space station is a reality but,... is it or is it another elaborate hoax compleat with sudo ham QSO's

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif I remember it well, age 11 in 1969... what struck me about the situation from a child point of view was ( why are the pics in B &amp; W ? )

99 % of the tv stations at that time were not affiliated with CNN or any cable system... and they TURNED OFF the transmitter around 11;30 - 12;30 each and every night...with what was called a &quot; sign - off &quot; ( heck, I bet most of the tv stations these days could not FIND their old sign-off vcr tapes, much less know what was on them !! )

So here we were at 1 - 2 AM, watching these folks back down the ladder to be ON THE MOON ! I mean, this was BIG news for that time.

A far simplier time... a quieter time... a better time.

IMHO..man should return to the moon and settle there, only thing I wonder about is... when and IF the big rockets take off from the moon to go to MARS or wherever, will it effect the moons ORBIT around the earth...of course, with a weaker gravity on the moon, it wont take as much &quot; thrust &quot; to escape the gravity of the moon than it does from the earth....plus we will finally find out if there is a &quot; intergalactic 7 - 11 &quot; on the other side of the moon ??

[KA9VQF]

I’ve heard a lot about the dark side of the moon. Pink Floyd did a record with that name but doesn’t it get lit up pretty good a lot of the time. We just can’t see it when its lit. Like during a solar eclipse if nothing else.

[kg4kww]

I remember well that hot July Day in 1969 when I and my family held our breath and stayed glued to our new color TV, and watched history being made.

It really made you proud to an American.

I don't know why it's going to take so many years to go back to the moon, when we have the know how. I would like to be around to see it happen again and to see us land on Mars. But, with all the political red tape getting in the way, It's a wonder if it will happen again at all.

And yes, when they made their countdown to lift off the moon my family and every one else was glued to their TV sets and hoping that nothing went wrong.

These guys are what America is all about.

Also, lets not forget the nail biting experience well all went through when Apollo 13 had an expolision on board and had to do some untried and untested things to get back to Earth. That was another great moment in space flight history.

Click here to learn more about Apollo 11's Mission (http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/features/apollo11_35th.html)

[W0LPQ]

What was bad about any of the space missions from Mercury, Gemini to Apollo, was listening to TV and Chris Kraft only to be over-ridden by blabbermouth Cronkite. He never could keep his mouth shut. And he would make you believe that only HE knew what was going on and not Chris Kraft, the missioin director. It was not only CBS (Cronkite Broadcasting System), but all 3 had similar know-it-alls. I think that ABC was the only one with a true Science Editor who at least knew something.

Glad that NASA-TV is on our Dish Network. Proud of everyone of those guys who were out there..!

73

Bill, WØLPQ

[N8CPA]

I remember hearing the words, &quot;This is tranquility base. The Eagle has landed.&quot; For a brief moment, the camera panned back and the audience could see Cronkite, gleefully rubbing his hands together, with a big, proud smile on his face and quite possibly a tear in his eye.

It was hours later, listening around astronaut commentary, Armstrong said words to the effect that he was about to open the camera door. A minute later, he pulled the ring. Suddenly you could see his feet on the ladder. The feet moved, and he said the &quot;small steps...giant leap&quot; phrase.

At some point, he and his partner moved the camera to a tripod for a better perspective. Yes, the picture was choppy and grainy. And the vast distance the signal had to travel gave it a characteristic of stop action. But what a night for America!

I had just graduated from Highschool. I wouldn't start college until the following spring. And I had a bit of a list to port, politically speaking. I absolutely hated Nixon. But when they showed that split screen conversation beween him and the astronauts...well...my girlfriend and I actually broke up over the fact that I got tears in my eyes when they saluted the CiC from the moon.

My family was too poor for a color TV. So, when they announced there would be color and improved picture quality on future landings, I arranged to watch the moon walk at my sister's house. Imagine my disappointment when they misaimed the camera and burned out the image sensor.

Remember how much publicity the hoax allegation got from the release of &quot;Capricorn I.&quot; They even advertised the movie with the tag line, &quot;Could it have happened before?&quot;

[k4uug]

Who made the radios used in space to talk with ground control and from the lunar lem to the apollo 11. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Some guy told me they were made by Browning??I thought those browning radios were CB radios??? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[k0ews]

Collins Radio, now Rockwell Collins, made all of the communications equipment for the Apollo missions.

[k4uug]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k0ews @ July 24 2004,11:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Collins Radio, now Rockwell Collins, made all of the communications equipment for the Apollo missions.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
THANK YOU ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W0LPQ]

Collins made ALL of the stuff for Mercury, Apollo and Gemini missions. The transmitters were 20W.

Collins Radio Co. was acquired by Rockwell International in the early 70's. About 5 years ago, Rockwell International &quot;divested&quot; itself of the entity formerly known as Collins Radio Group of Rockwell International and basically became Rockwell Colllins. The former portion of the group that was the automotive group, became Rockwell International. Those of us who were with Collins to begin with, never forgot the name. Rockwell didn't either, recognizing that &quot;name brand&quot; is worth a lot, thus the &quot;Collins&quot; name was retained. Unlike Sperry and the former RCA Radar guys who became Sperry, which was absorbed by Honeywell.

73

Bill, W0LPQ
Collins Avionics Field Service, Retired

[k4kyv]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG4YO @ July 23 2004,08:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">We stopped going to the moon because we needed the money to fight poverty, etc. #Well, over 30 years later there is still poverty in the US and we wasted the opportunity to aspire to more in humanity than just war and politics.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I was in my early 20's when it happened. #I figured that by now we would have permanent settlements on the moon and would be exploring Mars. #Right about that time 2001 Space Odyssey was released, and the mechanics of space flight as depicted seemed realistic within the frame of what was happening in 1969 and looking 32 years into the future.

I didn't dream that it was ALL about politics and beating the Russians, and that once we had shown the world that we could do it, we would never bother to go back.

One problem, though. #Before humans or other living things can spend extended time in space, we will have to solve the radiation problem. #I understand that one of the Apollo missions just barely missed getting fried by a solar flare. #A permanent colony will need some type of radiation shield.

That poses a much greater problem for travel to Mars, since people would be living in a space module outside the protection of the earth's magnetic field for a matter of months, not days, and the likelihood of getting caught in a solar flare would be much greater, not to #mention dangers posed by the normal background radiation in deep space.

Since Mars has no magnetic field like earth's, long term residence on that planet poses the same problem as the moon. #It's very doubtful that#there is any kind of life there at present, since the planet's surface has been sterilised by the constant bombardment of radiation for thousands of millions of years, unless some form of life developed and evolved in deep underground water deposits .

[k4kyv]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG3Y @ July 23 2004,13:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, and the Earth is FLAT , too ! #

Check out this web site, for irrefutable proof !

Especially note item # 14

http://www.flat-earth.org/platygaea/faq.html

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif 73 from Jim AG3Y[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Or check out

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