Pix of BPL hardware on utility poles in Cincinnati

[k4kyv]

Click on "BPL Hi-Res" for close-up photos. Note the electrical tape on the low voltage side. #This junk even beats some ham installations I have seen.#

http://www.danielwoodie.com/BPLLORES.htm

[WA5KRP]

Not sure you saw my previous post, (http://www.qrz.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard.cgi?act=ST;f=7;t=66804;hl=cincinnati) but it appears to me Cinci is gonna be a major showdown between BPL and amateurs with the technological depth to confront it.


Those pics are funny..........my neighbor's eight year old daughter could put that mess together!


73


WA5KRP
Texas

[WA2ZDY]

Where else but from the land of Jerry Springer?

[n0ov]

This is sad.

If it looks this bad during a trial one can only imagine the quality of workmanship that will go into the full scale deployment once they get the go ahead from the FCC

[W8EFA]

Hey lay off the Queen City! # You live in New Jersey for goodness sake!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Not to play the devils advocate, but reading the response from Current #they claim that they have a statement from the ARRL stating there was no interference on the Ham bands in their tests?

What is up with that? #All I hear is the ARRL fighting BPL with a vengeance.

Photos can be tricks - those pictures could have been taken in the middle of the installation.

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 21 2004,16:09)]Not to play the devils advocate, but reading the response from Current #they claim that they have a statement from the ARRL stating there was no interference on the Ham bands in their tests?

What is up with that? #All I hear is the ARRL fighting BPL with a vengeance.
They better be squeaky clean up there. #There's a group of ham EE's monitoring for interference. #And they've got the brains and the hardware to make their case. #As far as the League fighting BPL....tell me who else is watching out for amateur radio's interests.

Incidentally, maybe it's being done correctly in Cinci - we'll see. #From today's ARRL newsletter:

Quote[/b] ]
==>ARRL GOES TO BAT FOR ARIZONA AMATEURS, SEEKS BPL FIELD TRIAL SHUTDOWN

The ARRL has asked the FCC to immediately shut down a broadband over power
line (BPL) field trial in the Cottonwood, Arizona, area because it's
causing "severe interference" to Amateur Radio communication. Electric
Broadband LLC and utility APS have been operating the BPL experiment at
two Yavapai County sites since June under a Special Temporary
Authorization (STA) the FCC granted Electric Broadband in March. Michael
Kinney, KU7W, filed the first Amateur Radio complaint in June. It cited
testing by the Verde Valley Amateur Radio Association (VVARA)
<http://www.vvara.org> in the 1.8-30 MHz range to show that BPL
interference made attempts at ham radio communication useless.

"The interference on typical Amateur Radio equipment shows received
undesired signal levels in excess of 60 dB over S9 on the receiver's
signal strength meter," ARRL General Counsel Chris Imlay, W3KD, told FCC
officials on the League's behalf. "The utility and Electric Broadband were
contacted, and no response was received." The ARRL asserted that both
companies are aware that the BPL field trial has been causing harmful
interference and "neither has taken any steps to either resolve it or
terminate the test."

The League said VVARA and ARRL testing indicates "extremely high" levels
of radiated RF energy on amateur HF allocations--well in excess of the FCC
Part 15 levels with which Electric Broadband told the FCC it would comply.
VVARA testing revealed "actual harmful interference" from the BPL system
to mobile stations in the vicinity and to a fixed station.

The League's shutdown request went out August 16 to FCC Enforcement Bureau
Chief David Solomon and Deputy Office of Engineering and Technology Chief
Bruce Franca.

ARRL called on the FCC to instruct Electric Broadband and APS to shut down
the BPL trial immediately and not resume operation until it can
demonstrate that all interference issues have been resolved. It also
insisted that the FCC immediately revoke any STAs granted for the
Cottonwood or nearby operations, and that it institute forfeiture
proceedings against the two companies for knowingly causing harmful
interference.

VVARA submitted a lengthy and comprehensive report to the two companies
and to the Commission in late July detailing the interference issues. The
club took baseline measurements in January, before the BPL trial began,
and it's continued taking measurements since the system's startup. ARRL
Lab Manager Ed Hare, W1RFI, conducted independent tests of the Cottonwood
BPL system in July, and the League attached a summary of his findings to
its letter.

The VVARA and ARRL measurements, the League said, indicate widespread
interference to Amateur Radio communication in an area within a mile of
the BPL field trial, and radiated emissions from BPL modems at levels
"several orders of magnitude higher" than the FCC Part 15 limits. One ARRL
measurement cited was more than 32 dB higher than Part 15 allows. The
League further accused Electric Broadband of misrepresenting facts to the
Commission by saying it would comply with §15.109 of the FCC's rules.

The ARRL said continued operation of the system while violating the
conditions under which the STA was granted constitutes "willful and
repeated interference," and both the utility and the BPL provider should
be subject to fines as a result.

"ARRL requests that this test station be shut down immediately and that
the appropriate monetary forfeitures be imposed against both Electric
Broadband and APS," the League concluded.


Reckon those hams in Arizona appreciate Ed Hare and the League backing them up?



WA5KRP
Texas

[W8EFA]

Hey I am all for the ARRL and all the local HAM's fighting this if it is truly a problem..

I was just confused they are claiming no interfence and the ARRL agrees?

I have not seen anything before from the ARRL to us members except that it is a problem.

[kf4lne]

BPL doesent have anything on this interference source. And this is a very common problem in my area and I'm sure as well as many other areas as well. This causes noise from the AM BCB and continues well past 900MHz with a peak in the 10MHz range.

http://sv1.ath.cx:8080/dan/pics/interference.jpg

[N7AAO]

Quote[/b] (W8EFA @ Aug. 21 2004,15:26)]Hey I am all for the ARRL and all the local HAM's fighting this if it is truly a problem..

I was just confused they are claiming no interfence and the ARRL agrees?

I have not seen anything before from the ARRL to us members except that it is a problem.
EFA, the ARRL Lab Director, Ed Hare, W1RFI, has been all over the interference thing... if you write him a quick e-mail I am sure he will fill you in on all the interference he's seen himself or had documented by other hams. I'm sure you can find his e-mail address on the ARRL website.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unclesam.gif

[WA5KRP]

Quote[/b] (kf4lne @ Aug. 21 2004,18:28)]BPL doesent have anything on this interference source.
http://instagiber.net/smiliesdotcom/ups/sicdeth/headscratch.gif Kudzoo?



WA5KRP
Texas