Sweeps period shows FCC’s hypocrisy

[KC9ECI]

...compared to sweeps.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4997812/

[KG4CGC]

Young Mr.Powell is in bed with big money where ever its source may be. It is too bad that, that is how his job is defined in raising money for the gubment.

[KB9YCO]

"All of this begs the question: Just what does FCC chairman Michael Powell think of May sweeps? Is he shocked? Appalled? Does he worry that our nation’s children will be infected by this semi-annual wave of prurient programming?"

He thinks what he's told to think. He's a tool and any excuse to prosper his narrow minded and neo-conservative outlook he will take. Don't be suprised if you see some more un-Constitutional action by the FCC in the coming months. At the very least I'm sure they'll whine about it with the usual excuses of social detriment and kids turning into raving sex maniacs as a result of a TV or radio show. Although, if it causes any interference to big business interests then I'm sure that he'll back off.
Freedom of the press, and the concept of The First Amendment, means nothing to these close-minded religious extremists. They seems to think that television and radio aren't part of the press because they have an agenda to prosper. Spooky.

[KC8QMU]

Yup, more messed up logic.

They will nail Howard Stern to the wall for borderline content on his RADIO MORNING show, but I guess anything flies on prime time TV when the kids are watching.

Very hypocrytical if you ask me, but it's nothing new.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif Are you folks griping about :

1) the enforcement that the FCC does do

or

2) the enforcement that the FCC does NOT do

some folks you can never make happy; they gripe if the rules get enforced, and they moan and gripe if the rules do not get enforced...there is NO happy medium.

gripe gripe gripe 24 / 7 gripe gripe gripe

just be thankful you are in a nation where you CAN gripe without being taken out back and shot, or would you rather BE there...if you can't stand it here in the USA, then go/leave/vamoose/scram/git ; move it -- today,
this hour, this minute ( no one will miss you !! ) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[W3MIV]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ May 18 2004,16:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">1) the enforcement that the FCC does do # #

#or

2) the enforcement that the FCC does NOT do[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I feel strongly both ways!

[KC8QMU]

Amen, brother.

[n0ov]

You think Powel made a trip to Belgium and saw how they advertise soap. (wow)

After that the Jackson stunt doen't mean much.

Considering the up roar it's nice to know the FCC is handling this issue about the same way there's working through BPL

[KC8QMU]

Working?

[K4JSR]

Janet Jackson only showed one side of the issue.
As always, with a Kerry, you can see both sides! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223099,00.html


http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[KC9ECI]

-JSR

There's enough crud on the net for kids to get into without you posting links to stuff like that on a family web site.

[K4JSR]

ECI- #When you open the barn door, don't complain about
what comes in. #Your link to JJ showing her stuff was really
family oriented, wasn't it? #Be honest with yourself before
answering.

[KC9ECI]

How can you even compare a MSNBC news article to the softcore porn your link led to?

[W3MIV]

Henry L. Mencken:

&quot;Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public.&quot;

Nuff said.

[KB9YCO]

I still don't get the whole Janet Jackson thing; there was no nipple exposure since it was covered by that stupid little jewel she was wearing, it lasted two freakin' seconds and most people didn't see it until it was replayed ten million times by the morons at Fox News and CNN. Now I have to listen to radio shows that have been the same for twenty years tip toe around issues that any 1st grader has heard on the playground because some hardcore bible thumper was offended? Time to run these communistic and socially retarded morons out of office, in the FCC and beyond.

[K4JSR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC9ECI @ May 19 2004,03:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How can you even compare a MSNBC news article to the softcore porn your link led to?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I sure can. Exposure of flesh is exposure of flesh whether it is
in your post or mine. A band-aid over 5% of a breast still is
rather graphic. MSNBC was being as soft porn as the &quot;SUN&quot;.
Can you explain how your rant is more justified than mine? You liberals seem to think that you have
a God given right to distort truth, make up lies, and fix
the blame on conservatives. I did not see one complaint from
you when Klinton was caught cavorting with an intern.
You were one of those who defended him, were't you?
You only have a sense of outrage when liberals are caught
doing something stupid. If Ms. Kerry did not want her picture
taken in that immodest attire, she would not have worn in
public. I think that you will find that while the &quot;Sun&quot; is a
tabloid paper in the UK, it is no worse than what you probably
gawk at while standing in line at your supermaket.
Besides, you miss the whole point, as liberal would,
you and your cohorts take real joy in damning the President's
daughters when they were acting like typical college students.
You try to damn the President about his National Guard
service while saying that it is patriotic to to question things
like this. So if the Bush twins got drunk a few times and it was a bifg deal to you liberals, then why is it that a total
indiscretion of a Presidential Candidate's daughter just as much fair game? Or questioning Kerry's actual war record and
mostly his voting record such a bad thing?
Because it jacks you liberals jaws and you think that isn't so nice when it happens to you, Bucko!
Have a nice day, sir.
Besides, I am only in this because nobody on QRZ wants to
discuss ham radio.
OUT!

[KB9YCO]

Oh no, someone saw a boob or two; if that's the worst thing your kids see in life you'll be lucky.
As far as the post about 'you liberals', you're assuming that anyone that posts criticisms to the current administration, or little Colin Powell Junior over there at the FCC, is strictly liberal in the fake liberal democratic party sense. Use some common sense and logic instead of always towing the party line. Criticism is not necessarily partisan, it's just criticism. Over and over I see these stereotypes about what one groups thinks or does; that attitude is what it causing most of the division and intolerance in this country.
By the way, if you've ever bothered to go beyond the Talk &amp; Opinions forum there is plenty on QRZ to learn and discuss about amateur radio. This is an opinion forum for people sharing the bond of radio and not strictly a radio forum, obviously.

[KC9ECI]

I can't even begin to formulate a reply to ignorance like that.

[K4JSR]

I can see that YCO and ECI Need to go back and see their
&quot;Daddy Kerry&quot; for some more &quot;Flip-Flop&quot; Juice!
AAAAAW poor little liberals got their &quot;Whine and Cheese&quot;
party upset. Poor babies! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Go get your Whino batteries recharged with &quot;FLIP-FLOP&quot;
juice and come on back!
HAW! and OUT!

[KC9ECI]

Just what part of your anatomy did you pull that assumption out of?

Last time I looked I was a registered Republican. #I could care less what Kerry or his family do, I'm confident that none of them will ever live in the White House.

Seems to me my only complaint was your posting a link to a revealing photo of a woman. #It had no place in this discussion nor indeed at this web site period. #The link I posted was to a topical article, involving actions or inactions of the folks that regulate our hobby/service/way of life.

BTW, it is 'Clinton,&quot; and I wasn't impressed with the amount of my tax dollars spent trying to find out if he had sex or not. #I really didn't care and outside of his wife, no one else should have either.

One more thing. #Copying's SY's HAW and OUT is weak at best. #It wasn't funny when he did it and it is less so when you do it. Try to be more original.

Now, dig deep and come back with whatever poorly organized attempt at a reply that you can come up with, and this time, try to include facts, not just personal attacks that are more suited to elementary school playgrounds.

[K4JSR]

So your url is good and mine is bad. So be it, RINO.
That is Republican in name only. #That must be true because
you seem to think that you have the license to send us to
a disgusting scene and then complain when someone else does likewise. #Your replies are those of a sub-cretin and not worthy having facts sent to a an open-mouth closed brain
individual. I will use HAW and OUT wherever and when ever I please. The only weak things around here are your lame arguments and baseless criticism. Go get a life!
Don't be such a spoiled sport about the responses you get to
the TROLL you started!
HAW! HAW! OUT! OUT! (You danged spot!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB9YCO]

Well, I can see that this thread to into very reasoned and well directed dialogue showing both intelligence and respect. Nice work.

[K4JSR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 19 2004,19:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, I can see that this thread to into very reasoned and well directed dialogue showing both intelligence and respect. Nice work.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
YCO- Didn't anybody ever tell you that you don't get Flip-Flop
juice from a nipple??? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
So which side are you on? JJ's single breasted appearance or
Kerry's daughter? Oh, I forgot! If you don't show any nipple
you can show everything else! Is that how you liberals keep
a breast on BPL?? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
This discussion is no better or any worse than any other
political debate on QRZ.
MegaHAWS! OUT!

[KB9YCO]

I've never flip flopped on the issue of censorship; the government has no right to tell a free press what they can and can't say, the people make the determination through support or lack thereof.
My comment was directed at the idiotic name calling and insults (including your stupid stereotype about me being a liberal yadda yadda) instead of just discussing the issue. If you can't discuss an issue without resorting to that sort of conduct you may have bigger issues than what your kids see on TV. Most of the topics on QRZ are discussed and people agree to disagree. Give it a rest already with the BS stereotypes and insults; it adds nothing. buhbyenow...

[K4JSR]

YCO, You have flip-flopped like a windshield wiper.
You want your kids looking at JJ's mammary, then you have
the large issues to deal with. You're the one who stereotypes
those of us who take issue with your nonsensical &quot;First
Amendment Rights&quot;. Flesh flashing on prime time during a
song of seduction, lewdness and prurient language is the
kind of freedom of speech that only Larry Flint, and evidently
yourself, would care to defend. Our country's forefathers were a lusty and hard drinking bunch, but they at least observed some modicum of discretion about their &quot;activities&quot;.
You and ECI seem to have the view that it should all hang out
and if the rest of us do not like it, tough!
You seem to have some stereotyping issues of your own, sir.
Mean while, you can go on expressing your views of liberty
with out responsibily. I will go on questioning your beliefs,
if you put them out for discussion.
Toodles and have a nice day!

[KG4CGC]

Uh, I know this is America but, has anyone seen Canadian television? It's HOT! Has Canada run amuck in chaos? No. Teen pregnancy in Canada is lower than here in the U.S. Restriction and regulation do not make up for lack of enlightenment.
Can't take credit for that one either.

[K4JSR]

Well Charles, if you like their weather and their tax structure
and their TV, why are you still here? Maybe you'll like their
socialized medicine up there as well. Although I have to admit
that I like their Ales and their cheaper prescriptions.
Walleye fishing is pretty good, too. But, I like eating at the
Varsity, Bass Fishing, Grits, NASCAR, SCCA Racing, warm weather for the Arthritis, ham radio, and jerking liberals'
chains. Never have learned to say &quot;EH&quot; and &quot;Hoser&quot; very well.
(that was for the benefit of my Canadian friend looking over my shoulder as I type this!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
73 and may I suggest that you check out some Hispanic TV
for &quot;hot&quot;. Cal K4JSR

[KC9ECI]

JSR-

Again, you are in error. My point was that we don't need all the skin. Not on tv, not on the net. You were the one that posted a link to a revealing picture.

Do you work hard to come up with stupid things to post here or does it just come natural to you?

[K4JSR]

Poor little ECI-Poo! Still believing that your incorrect assertion
will become truth if repeated often enough. It seems to me
that you, as the originator of this thread, steered us all to
a site that had the infamous JJ shot. You still think that your
sensationalism is just while any other sensationalism is unjust?
You seem to forget the rest of what went on with that JJ shot; Prime time at Super Bowl when millions of families world wide were watching a suggestive dance and and a blatantly
sexual song being performed. Then you bring it up again,
here, on what you refer to a family oriented reflector.
This, while chastising me for doing likewise with a UK News-
paper article. You, sir, are being hypocritical and arrogant to
an infinite extreme..
Your biggest problem is that you, like all Neo-Coms, don't
stand up well to arguement. Why? Because your original
hypothesis is totally incorrect. Totally lacking in logic.
By the way, keep hurling your insults. They make my case
stronger!
HAW! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif and OUT!
PS. WAAAAAAAH!!!

[KC9ECI]

Like you haven't been rude or insulting?

[KA3RFE]

This is the nastiest thread I have ever seen between any two people anywhere. Name calling, insults...

Why this is allowed to continue, I dunno, but I'm not going to read any more of it.

[KG4CGC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 21 2004,18http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well Charles, if you like their weather and their tax structure
and their TV, why are you still here? #Maybe you'll like their
socialized medicine up there as well. #Although I have to admit
that I like their Ales and their cheaper prescriptions.
Walleye fishing is pretty good, too. But, I like eating at, the Varsity, Bass Fishing, Grits, Nascar, SCCA Racing, warm weather for the Arthritis, ham radio, and jerking liberals'
chains. #Never have learned to say &quot;EH&quot; and &quot;Hoser&quot; very well.
(that was for the benefit of my Canadian friend looking over my shoulder as I type this!<!--emo&amp;http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
73 and may I suggest that you check out some Hispanic TV
for &quot;hot&quot;. # #Cal # K4JSR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well Carroll,
# # # # # # # # Wasn't really expecting a reply but since you did take the time to do so, I know it means you care and that you love me! Thanks dood, I love you too http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #It's good to see that Hams can share with each other without being overly demonstrative. And don't worry, I won't be leaving you anytime soon. I love it here in the Sunny South and it's good to know that we're within a stones throw of each other. Howdy Neighbor!
# You're totally correct about Latin television. Just gotta love Telemundo and Univision! I also like looking at Denise Austin in the morning. Man, that woman does NOT look anywhere near her age http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif !
# &quot;the
Varsity, Bass Fishing, Grits, NASCAR, SCCA Racing.&quot;
All great stuff. I like a little bacon in my grits though.
Best grits I ever had was when I was 13 years old. One morning while riding home from Florida on a Greyhound bus, we stopped at a little hole in the wall Mom-n-Pop restaurant in the middle of nowhere in south Georgia. Honest to goodness home made grits. Heaven! These days, it's damn near impossible to find a place ANYWHERE that uses something other than that instant crap. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #Sure do miss those grits.
# Now if you want to talk about bass fishing, I got to tell you, we have got some spectacular bass here between North Carolina and Georgia from Lake Jocassee to Lake Keowee to Lake Hartwell. Not to mention all the little stuff in between. We always catch and release UNLESS we're camping. I take the camera with me though so we can prove that we caught &quot;The Big One&quot;.
# Nascar and SCCA are great too. Got a Ham friend that I went to high school with that lives in Atlanta now. He and his brother are building an SCCA car and soon they will be driving it. It has pretty much taken over his life but that's what happens when it gets in your blood.
# Well Cal, that was your group hug ya Big Lug. Hope it gets in your blood and spreads like wildfire! Can everyone feel the love? Brothas and Sistas can I get an AMEN? Can I get an AWOMAN too? Gotta be equal you know. (Robin Williams 1978)
# Spread the love everywhere you go Brothas and Sistas. Life is too short for piddly crap. Too short for sexism, racism and all the other &quot;isms&quot; . Something a few posts back was misunderstood and somehow confusion set in, in my opinion.
# Can't we all just get along? (Rodney King)
We have such advanced technology at our fingertips yet sometimes we forget to feel the love.
# If I have offended you, just remember, I love you dood!
Like my Momma use to say, &quot;I you can't say anything nice THEN SHUT THE _ _ _ _ UP!&quot; http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #Gotta love Mom!

[K4JSR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC9ECI @ May 22 2004,11:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Like you haven't been rude or insulting?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Only in response to you. sir.
But what scares me more is that there are a couple of threads
where I have actually agreed with you! NOw that probably scares you, also! We may find other areas of agreement along the way, also. Spooky, ain't it?
We can end this amicably, though. Just admit I am right and you are wrong! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif No, I ain't waiting for a cold day! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
And Charles, Haw indeed! But not even SY comes around any more for what he started, &quot;THE QRZ GROUP HUG&quot;!
But then I don't think that Steve ever ate any grits! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
Another reason for loving GRITS: &quot;Girls Raised In The South&quot;!
Tell your buddy in Atlanta that racing is a real jealous mistress. And even more expensive! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif The best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a LARGE
fortune!
73, Cal K4JSR

[kc7jty]

JSR: Watch out...those emoticons are going to get you!

[KC9ECI]

OK. I'll admit it.
Here goes...

&quot;I am right and you are wrong!&quot;

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I think I might have to add ham radio ops to my tagline yet.

[K4JSR]

ECI- You took it the way I meant it! Your awright!
I apologize for any insults I cast your way during this
really weird argument we got in. I think I was all caught up
in the heat of the moment, so again I apologize.
It seems like we are not the only ones caught up in our passions about First Amendment issues. Wall Street Journal
On Line today provides some interesting insight on the subject
at http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110005119
Canada apparently has some real issues with freedom of speech and is actually passing laws to restrict it.
There has to be a better way to resolve those issues. Until
then, I don't think that we will be the only ones to have a heated exchange about it.
Now if I can just get JTY to quit pursuing me with all of
those emoticons! They are just sooooo noisey!
It makes me glad that I am not a Klingon and the emoticons
are tribbles!

73 Cal K4JSR

[K4JSR]

Hey Charles- CGC- you said,
&quot;I also like looking at Denise Austin in the morning. Man, that woman does NOT look anywhere near her age !&quot;
Yeah, I think that lady is tougher than Chinese Arithmetic!
She reminds of an aerobics instructor I had a few years back.
This lady was not only tough, but she was really tough!
She got pregnant three different times and kept beating us
guys up in class (No mercy at all) well into her third trimester,
just a few days before delivery day! She would always be back beating us mercilessly into submission before a month
was over from her delivery! Do you realize just how embarrassing it is to have a pregnant woman make mincemeat out of you in an aerobics class? Neither did the
bunch of us in her class. We stayed with her until her husband got transferred out of town. She was so tough
that on her middle pregnancy she ran the Peachtree Road Race while seven months pregnant! The Peachtree is a fun
little 10k road race always held on July 4th in Atlanta.
Yup, she was one tough lady. I miss those workouts, too.
73, Cal K4JSR

[KB9YCO]

Well, I see not much happened with this thread besides presumptions and generalizations by mister JSR. Again I have to ask, why can't you discuss without insults or presumptions of what you think I know or think? If you don't agree with free press and free speech, or even me personally, then just say so, no need to be an *&amp;@$#! about it. (That bulls**t line about 'freedom with responsibility' is, and always has been a cop out to avoid the real issue.)
So go ahead and berate me, I've never changed my opinion on this issue once (the government has no right to tell a free press what content they can and can't provide, that's parents and society's job, not the government's job to babysit) and I defy you to prove me wrong on this flip flop crap, which of course you can't do because I never did.
Go ahead and tow the party line and let them tell you what to think (that goes for both parties), and live in your world of stereotypes and insults (those that can't discuss hit), I for one could care less. But do us all a favor and try to act civil, we can discuss without resorting to the type of conduct that you have displayed here. ...buhbyenow...

[kc7jty]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 24 2004,11:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Go ahead and tow the party line and let them tell you what to think (that goes for both parties), and live in your world of stereotypes and insults[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'll bet he votes too. Its because of his power thinking (yeah right) type that our out of controll government feels it has carte blanche. IMO he is the personification of this country's biggest problem right now: Voters who have neither the will nor the ability to THINK for themselves and feel they are doing their patriotic duty by supporting the candidates placed before them. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

[KC9ECI]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 24 2004,10:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ECI- #You took it the way I meant it! #Your awright!
I apologize for any insults I cast your way during this
really weird argument we got in. I think I was all caught up
in the heat of the moment, so again I apologize.
It seems like we are not the only ones caught up in our passions about First Amendment issues. #Wall Street Journal
On Line today provides some interesting insight on the subject
at # http://www.opinionjournal.com/forms/printThis.html?id=110005119
Canada apparently has some real issues with freedom of speech and is actually passing laws to restrict it.
There has to be a better way to resolve those issues. Until
then, I don't think that we will be the only ones to have a heated exchange about it.
Now if I can just get JTY to quit pursuing me with all of
those emoticons! #They are just sooooo noisey!
It makes me glad that I am not a Klingon and the emoticons
are tribbles!

73 #Cal #K4JSR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Like my wife says about me, I'm not all bad, just mostly so.

I apologize too, but I'm not going to hug you. I have to draw the line somewhere.

Odd you should mention Klingons. I have a Klingon tattoo.

[K4JSR]

Tom, Klingons Rule. They told me so!
This DIRTDAVIS dude made it hard to find this thread.
Talk about a busy little &quot;Poster Child&quot;! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
73, Cal K4JSR

[KG4CGC]

Cal, JSR,
One they took off the air over here that was out of Canada was Cynthia Kerulack (sic)? Man I miss that show!