May 19th 2004

[KD7QYU]

May 19th 2004
It has been calculated that if everyone in the United States did not purchase a drop of gasoline for one day and all at the same time, The oil companies would choke on their stockpiles. At the same time it would hit the entire industry with a net loss of over 4.6 billion dollars which affects the bottom lines of the oil companys.
Therefore May 19th 2004 has been formally declared "Stick it up their behind day" and the people of this nation should not buy a single drop of gasoline on that day.
The only way this can work is if you tell as many people as you know as quickly as you can. Call your friends and family. Copy this article and send it via email to everyone you know.Get the word out.
Waiting on the administation to step in and control the prices is not going to happen. What happened to the reduction and control in prices that the Arab nations promised two weeks ago?
Remember one thing, Not only is the price of gasoline going up but at the same time airlines are forced to raise their prices, Trucking companys are forced to raise their prices which effects prices on everything that is shipped. Things like food, clothing, building materials, medical supplies ect. Who pays in the end? We all do!
We can make a difference. if they dont get the messege after one day, We will do it again and again. So do your part and tell everyone you know. Mark your calanders and make May 19th 2004 a day that the citizens of the United States say "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH"


73 #
Jud # kd7qyu http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD7QYU]

Come on folks, Read this post its important!

Jud kd7qyu

[W0UZR]

Yes everybody,,,

NO ONE buy gas on the 19th

Let's give them a MESSAGE!!!!!

[W0UZR]

P.S.
I'm not a FWD, FWD man, but the topic starter copied and pasted an Email just like I got. And it said to FWD to everyone I know,,,And in this case, I agree.

So copy the post and FWD to all of the people in your adderess book

[w5klb]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD7QYU @ May 17 2004,23:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">May 19th 2004
It has been calculated that if everyone in the United States did not purchase a drop of gasoline for one day and all at the same time, The oil companies would choke on their stockpiles. At the same time it would hit the entire industry with a net loss of over 4.6 billion dollars which affects the bottom lines of the oil companys.
Therefore May 19th 2004 has been formally declared &quot;Stick it up their behind day&quot; and the people of this nation should not buy a single drop of gasoline on that day.
The only way this can work is if you tell as many people as you know as quickly as you can. Call your friends and family. Copy this article and send it via email to everyone you know.Get the word out.
Waiting on the administation to step in and control the prices is not going to happen. What happened to the reduction and control in prices that the Arab nations promised two weeks ago?
Remember one thing, Not only is the price of gasoline going up but at the same time airlines are forced to raise their prices, Trucking companys are forced to raise their prices which effects prices on everything that is shipped. Things like food, clothing, building materials, medical supplies ect. Who pays in the end? We all do!
We can make a difference. if they dont get the messege after one day, We will do it again and again. So do your part and tell everyone you know. Mark your calanders and make May 19th 2004 a day that the citizens of the United States say &quot;ENOUGH IS ENOUGH&quot;


73 #
Jud # kd7qyu http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh good grief-here we go again.

Let me repeat this one more time:

Boycotts do not work. Why? To Boycott is do without something-period! The day after this &quot;gas out&quot; you will go right back to using your car and burning gasoline.

You're not hurting OPEC.

You're not hurting the oil companies (they will be still be in business the day after).

A one day &quot;gas out&quot; won't do NOTHING for already short supply of gasoline.

You will be hurting the small local independant operator and quite possibly your local economy. Think about this-is this what you really want to do?

Business that are in the transportation industry will ignore your &quot;gas out&quot; because they have to keep their vehicles on the road to make money to pay their bills.

What WILL work in the long term:

Carpool

Drive slower.

Do not take any unecessary trips.

Keep you engine tuned and have proper maintenance regularly.

Check your tires for proper inflation.

In other words- CONSERVE!

This you can do EVERY DAY instead of just ONE SELECTED DAY.

This will do more for the price on the gallon gas than anything else. We can do this-we have done it before in the early 70's.

Conservation is the route I'm taking. Any one here ready to disipline themselves and join me in this effort?

[w5klb]

Some other things to take into consideration:

A barrell of oil is 41 bucks (pretty steep).

China (PRC) has increase their oil imports by 36%

OPEC has cut production by 1 billion barrells of oil per day plus another 1.5 billion in overproduction.

There numerous changes to US fuel thus adding more cost on a gallon of gas.

Specifications curtailed imports into the US dropping gasoline inventories.

We import 62% of our oil.

Good luck with trying overcome these market forces with your &quot;one day boycott&quot;! This &quot;boycott&quot; is the equivalent of trying to put out a volcano with a bucket of water.

Can you say C-O-N-S-E-R-V-A-T-I-O-N boys and girls? I knew you could.

Reality can sometimes be cold and crule. I don't like either but a ONE DAY &quot;boycott&quot; ain't cutt'n it for me.

[n9yb]

If you let the price of gas rise high enough - long enough, it will create the driving force for R&amp;D towards alternatives. #Without high gas prices for some duration, there is not enough financial incentive...



BTW...a big chunk of what you pay at the pump is taxes...lets vote in some folks who want to put that money in the people's pockets not their own.

[n3mvf]

Whaaaaaaaaaa.....I want cheap gas for my gas guzzling SUV. #If you can afford the SUV, don't gripe about the gas price......you use it, you pay. I lived through the gas lines of the 70's because of price controls being released. #At least in this decade....you can get gas!!!!!

If you haven't lived through gas lines and rationing, you'll appreciate high prices as a choice of the least evils.

73
Greg

[KC9CIL]

Nonsense. Just another variation on popular Urban Legends. Check the url Snopes Urban Legends Reference pages (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp). Some people are naive and gullible. You can fool some of the people all of the time ........
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif You can find 99.9 per cent of the chain mail (forward to every one you know) discredited at this site. The .1 per cent that is based on truth is usually something we can do nothing about.

73
Curt

[w3bny]

Really wanna stick it in there behind (I was going to put some comment about medical practitioners )

Push for Bio-Diesel!

1. B-100 has no fossil fuel in it what so ever
2. Bio-Diesel is cleaner and burns as well if not better than &quot;dino-diesel&quot;
3. its made out of soybeans and left over KFC/Mc D' grease and oil!

Who would you rather give yer money to? An American soybean farmer...or the Shiek.

P.S. There are some really nice diesel cars now a days (look at the overseas BMW's etc!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Heck you only have 24 hours...how are you going to get the message out to so many folks in such a shortr amount of time ?

Also, will the stations cooperate and not SELL you any gas, even if you drive up to the pump ....or ...have pylons sitting out there to make you drive elsewhere in the parking lot ( I doubt it, since you will be taking money OUT OF THEIR pockets too )

It is a basic GREAT idea, I just dont see it working in reality. Some folks will say &quot; aint gonna stop ME from buying gas today.grumble, snide remarks, etc &quot;

Another idea that will not work is to charge by the size of the vehicle....suv would pay more per gallon than a pinto ( then wal-mart would run out of 5 gallon cans...folks would buy gas in 5 gallon cans then take it home to put in their suv in the carport with the drive-in doors closed so the neighbors wont see you

.....then the fumes would stifle the air supply in the carport, the human would be over come by the enclosed areas with the gas fumes... then the EMT would take you to the E R, then you would have a hospital bill to pay, all over 10 gallons of gas

NOTICE the car ad s on tv...they do NOT mention mpg on fuel...they just want to sell you a vehicle ( p u / suv / van / etc....hardly any one mentions the mpg of that vehicle any more.

oh well

procrastinators meeting has been rescheduled for...


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[W4LTM]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ May 17 2004,06:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Heck you only have 24 hours...how are you going to get the message out to so many folks in such a shortr amount of time ?
---ai4ep--- http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My wife and I have already received two emails (not amateur radio related) each from various sources claiming a boycott day on Wed. I was kind of surprised to get those emails... I guess the word is out?

[n0ov]

If people were serious and wanted to send a message they would do this three days in a row.

Unfortunately, fuel is needed to get to work -- I drive a sub compact car and fill up every 2 days. I could stretch that to three but it would be tough.

I understand there are alot of economic drivers causing the price of fuel to reach this point. I also understand the gas companies are posting record profits.

Can't help but believe someone is doing their very best to keep this crisis going so they can keep their profits high.

[W0LPQ]

This is an urban ledgend. Has been around for a while. Look up www.snopes.com and check out ALL of the urban ledgends that have been about the net in the past couple of years.

T'aint gonna work..!

73

Bill, W0LPQ

[KG4CGC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ May 18 2004,02:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Can't help but believe someone is doing their very best to keep this crisis going so they can keep their profits high.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Exactly!

T'aint gonna work..!
Twill Too!

[K8YS]

THIS WILL NOT WORK

Everyone, rush out the night before and fill-up, drive all day of the boycott, then fill-up on the day after....

they still sold the SAME AMOUNT OF GAS!

Want to &quot;stick it to the oil companies&quot;?

Import LESS OIL, get our oil from DOMESTIC sources, Alaska, off shore TX, LA, FL, CA.

I got an idea, we have a standing army in the middle east, seize control of the oil fields and provide the USA and out allies, with oil -- AT COST, Russia, France, and the other wimps, sell at US$50/barrel.

CONSERVE, proper air in the tires, proper tuned engine, WALK, ride a bike, buy a motorcycle...

and here is a RADICAL IDEA.... send your kids to LOCAL schools and not ship them across the city or county for &quot;racial harmony&quot; How much oil would we save?

[K0RGR]

Conservation can go a long way toward eliminating high prices and gas lines. But, worldwide gas consumption has increased, with most of that increase in the developing countries.

I believe that we are looking at a long term oil shortage that will only get worse. We are already facing serious shortages of heating oil and natural gas - something those of us who live here in the frozen tundra can get fairly emotional about! There aren't enough trees left in Minnesota to keep us from freezing in February, even if we convert them all to firewood by hand.

We need to deploy alternative energy solutions as rapidly as possible.

If we just let the free market steer our energy future, the outlook is not promising. It is not in the interest of the current energy producers to encourage us to develop the technologies we will need when their products peter out. With very few producers, the energy companies can work to maximize their profits, rather than letting competition guarrantee a reliable, low-cost fuel supply.

Eventually, we will be faced with a crisis - one that could lead to millions of deaths. So, we must intelligently guide those energy developments ourselves, in order to prevent us from falling off an energy &quot;cliff&quot;.

We can replace many gas and oil fired powerplants with wind, solar and other 'natural' renewable energy sources. I think we need get over our national phobia about nuclear power - there is a place for nukes in our power grid, and we should resurrect the 'breeder reactor' project, so that we can reuse nuclear fuel rods over and over.

Our national policy of &quot;trust the oil companies&quot; will most likely not serve us well in the 21st century. I say &quot;trust and verify&quot;, and work to make the future happen.

[KD7QYU]

What a bunch of pesamist!

kd7qyu

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ...yea. yea we all TALK Abut conserving, saving that, doing less of this kind of waste...but in the long run: we do not.

You know it, I know it... we do not conserve any thing to amount to any thing... Suuuure one family out of 10 might do their fair share, but what about the other 9 families ?

The best way to bring the USA down on its knees is to do 2 simple things :

1) cut off our electricity
2) cut off our gasoline


half the population could not survive the first 6 months. YOU know it, I know it...no electricity or gasoline for 6 months. That would be world war III. Simple &amp; to the point.
Worst case scenerio... no bombing of any buildings, not a shot fired, just cut off the ac power and cut off all incoming fuel . Half of the USA population would be dead within 6 months. You know how and why already. It might only take 3 months in winter.

Not a pretty sight, but one that IS possible, if the right folks get their act together.

---ai4ep---

[W9JI]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8YS @ May 18 2004,13:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">THIS WILL NOT WORK

Everyone, rush out the night before and fill-up, drive all day of the boycott, then fill-up on the day after....

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I agree,,,,,,,,

I have received this same email and have yet to figure the loss? If,, I do mean IF we purchase fuel today or the day after then there still is the sale of the gas JUST NOT ON THAT DAY and at the end of the week payroll is still met and the same amout of fuel is sold,,,wheres the loss?

Well I am off to roam the area just for the fun of it in my H2,,,maybe burn up a tank of gas and not care about the cost of it since I cant take the money with me when I die anyhow. Catch you guys on the air from the mobile. Maybe sit on top of a hill and bump the idle up turn on the A/C and talk some DX, enjoy life,,,,,,,

[KA8NCR]

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I got an idea, we have a standing army in the middle east, seize control of the oil fields and provide the USA and out allies, with oil -- AT COST, Russia, France, and the other wimps, sell at US$50/barrel.

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Russia is sitting on oil reserves that are equal to or greater than what's in the middle East. Saudi Arabia is the largest exporter of oil followed by Russia.



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Excellent advice.

[k6ncx]

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Calculated by whom? Based on what data?

Bull####.

Think about it a minute. Do you think they have pipelines going out to all the gas stations? Do you think the stations are getting deliveries every day?

[KG4CGC]

I like the idea of a boycott only because there is a part of me that would like to tear the greedy bast**ds a new one. I know it won't really work and I do remember oil embargo of the early seventies. By the mid 70's and early to mid 80's we had to deal with crappy cars mainly due to emission standards and poorly built four bangers. Technology advanced because JAPAN showed us how to build zippy 4 cylinder engines. THEN, we went backwards and went back to those big huge V8's that I love. Now it's come back to bite us in the behind.
I think we could have, should have continued on the course of advancing 4 cylinder technology that we are now 20 years behind on. We are behind on advancing all sorts of alternatives and we all know why. We can only blame ourselves for not demanding other options and now the only ones who have been demanding it have had to go so far to the left that they are called &quot;environmentalist wackos&quot;.
Necessity is the mother of invention but big oil has slapped that mother to death. Again, we, ourselves are to blame.
Just a thought.

[WA5KRP]

I'm in. #I won't buy gas on Wednesday.


OK if I buy some on Thursday?





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[KD7QYU]

I just finished watching the local news here. They did a spot on Weds boycott . They said that emails have spead nation wide and the boycott is on! I dought that enough people will particapate to have any effect. But I guess we will see.

Jud # # kd7qyu http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[kd7eze]

This has been tried before...to no avail. If everybody were to stop buying gas for a couple of months, maybe. Anyway, today is the big <span style='color:red'>NO BUY</span> day, and as luck would have it, my gauge is pegging the big E. When I get low on petrol, I just go fill it up, I'm not really concerned about the price. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KI4FDW]

For years the American Auto industry has had the technology to build more effiecient vehicles...ie the toyota prius can get up to 60 miles to the gal. In Europe they have an extensive rail system that most use for transportation. I would much rather pay $3/day and ride a rail service than to not only pay High gas prices but also the vehicle tax, and insurance.

With all this talk about the ecomomy that is getting worse since ALL prices on goods are going up due to the higher gas prices. Along with the talk about conserving energy and problems with the enviroment. We should ALL be petitioning the government and those running for office this year to establish a better and more efficient way of rail transportation. Water and Wind have a much more effictive means of power. Not to mention the fact that it is alot cleaner! And what ever happened to ETHONAL?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I would rather pay a farmer for growing corn or soybeans!!!

No I am not one of those radical enviromentalists. I would rather go back to horse and buggy and not have to worry about the price of gas. I just think that all of the complaining that WE do is to no avail unless WE decide to do something CONSTRUCTIVE with it!

but, this is only my 2 cents worth.

73's
kevin
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[KD7QYU]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When I get low on petrol, I just go fill it up, I'm not really concerned about the price. #


I am so glad that you have all the money in the world and dont have to worry about the price of fuel and everything else going up because of it. Must be nice to have all that money! You must be #Bill Gates son. Can you kick me down a couple million?

73
Jud #kd7qyu[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>