My President the Cowboy [Archive]

05-17-2004, 08:37 PM

JTY. i know.. I know.. I said I wouldn't.. but I thought.. just perchance (Wishful thinking on my part, I know!) that the major media outlets broadcasting the fact that a WMD was FOUND in Iraq would have caused you to rethink your position.

Obviously, not.

Ahh well.. Like casting pearls before the proverbial ........
We continue to seek to educate with the truth.. but like the pearls.. all that happens is that they get trampled beneath the hooves and buried in the dirt (hmm.. like a certain arty shell with Sarin!)

UEY.. I don't believe the following, but in deference to others who MIGHT be looking for another straw to grasp onto.. how does this 'conspiracy theory' sound to you??

I think. what REALLY Happened is that when Sec. Rumsfeld went to Iraq.. he had that shell in his coat pocket.

During his travels to the prison, he stopped alongside the road, buried it, wired it up, and waited.

Does that sound plausible to you? I mean.. to some other folks on here.. that would FIT well with their theories, wouldn't it??

<BIG GRIN>

K3FT

KB9YCO

05-17-2004, 08:45 PM

...in a gum drop house on lollipop lane...

N0PU

05-17-2004, 08:51 PM

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Bush to the UN 2002:

"U. N. inspectors believe Iraq has produced two to four times the amount of biological agents it declared, and has failed to account for more than three metric tons of material that could be used to produce biological weapons. Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons.

"United Nations' inspections also revealed that Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard and other chemical agents, and that the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons."
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Dec 2003 interview:

DIANE SAWYER: But stated as a hard fact, that there were weapons of mass destruction as opposed to the possibility that he could move to acquire those weapons still -

PRESIDENT BUSH: So what's the difference?
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He's obviously gave it up 5 month ago... Why can't ya'll... He know's he lied... Why can't ya'll see it...

K6UEY

05-17-2004, 08:53 PM

K3FT,
By Jove, my good man I think you have got it !!
I never considered the real reason for Rumsfeld to have made that trip. I'm not too good at figuring and following conspiracies,I'm far too trusting and willing to take some one at their word,I know that is old and archariac, and has no place in this modern 21st Century world,but old proven methods are hard to break! I guess that's why I would never be a Good Democrat (is that an oxymoron ? ).

KB9YCO

05-17-2004, 09:08 PM

No, it's good politician that is the oxy moron.

ki4bgo

05-17-2004, 09:12 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N0PU @ May 17 2004,15:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">He's obviously gave it up 5 month ago... Why can't ya'll... He know's he lied... Why can't ya'll see it...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It's that whole "cult following" thing again....slightly...no, like W8EFA said....VERY disturbing! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

05-18-2004, 12:41 AM

I guess that if a ten-gallon hat and a horse's a** make one a "cowboy", then Bush-wack is your man.
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nx6d

05-18-2004, 12:59 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 17 2004,09:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Click on the link below to understand more about our greatest President.

My President the Cowboy (http://www.catsprn.com/cowboys.htm)

Now how do you want to vote this November?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
eeeeewwwww....

Goebbels would have been proud...

kg4kww

05-18-2004, 02:50 AM

Yea, OK, Maybe the greatest President line was over doing it a bit. I mean, he hasn't gotten rid of code yet!!! So, we will retract that part of the statement. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Now, if Bush would just have the BALLS to go after that SADAR Cleric Dude and punch his ticket in NAJAF, that would put an end to this crap once and for all.

w9obf

05-18-2004, 03:22 AM

I can see why the Sarin cannisters were important to the Bushies. Good news has been in short supply lately. But it looks like the Geneva convention-bashing goes all whe way up to the White House. These guys and gals make Nixon look like a Boy Scout. The best parts about W are his wife and mother. And in no way shape or form am I praising our ex-president (and my ex-Governor) Clinton. They couldn't even name the part of the street for him (Pres. Wm. J. Clinton Avenue) that runs in front of the old Excelsior Hotel, which Paula Jones would have been familiar with.

KA9VQF

05-18-2004, 04:54 AM

In order to have a war you must have an enemy. If a proper enemy doesn’t exist one must be created. No problem the US has been doing it’s best to make enemies all its life. Especially in the middle east. Gorge Bush made the mistake of not making the war in Saudi Arabia ‘popular’ with the average American. You may still have your “I support out troops but not necessarily our government” tee shirt or button. I do.
Now George Bush JR. has the support and guidance of the neocons who have been planning since before Bush SR. left office. They have people in key positions and have had for years. Almost makes you wish McCarthy were still around to root them out. Perhaps something like that will eventually happen when we have a regime change or a revolution.
I like almost every other American wanted to smack someone up side the head when the terrorists flew the planes into the World Trade Center towers in New York. I thought ‘finally we’ll go to Afghanistan and get the AQ bunch and put an end to Bin Ladin‘. Sure enough boots were sent in and things were going pretty well. Suddenly I start hearing a call for war on Iraq.
The focus of ‘The war on terror” had shifted and our great leader who supposidly wants to put and end to AQ says he don’t know where Bin Laden is and don’t care.
Granted something needed to be done in Iraq. The sanctions, while working, were not doing the job very effectively. It makes me wonder if maybe that attack wasn’t a covert operation that the administration was not fully aware of. From what I’ve read in the documents that have cleared the freedom of information act, the attack on Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen to whip the American public into action and so as to not let the Japanese know we had their codes.
It was considered a ‘fair trade’ to get the US involved in the war the allies were not able to win with out us and our vast wealth of money and equipment. There were key people who made lots of bucks in the deal just as today. The US was able to provide jobs to its people and recover from its economic depression from the war effort.

K6UEY

05-18-2004, 05:32 AM

VQF,
Well you may not be batting a 1000, but you are correct on some things. History has proven this country recovers from a WAR faster than it can recover from a Depression or even a recession.Ask some of the old dudes they lived it and saw it happen. So after the dismal condition the country was in after the last Administration,maybe good times are ahead. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
Elect GW for a second term, keep the "good times ball rolling "..........

05-18-2004, 05:33 AM

Interesting website, to which my reaction is:

Exactly so!

The unthinking call him a cowboy, apparently not realizing they are really praising him...which is not surprising, because they dont THINK to begin with.

I find it a amusing pastime to watch the unthinking call the prez "Dubya" and a "Pinhead" (Really? tell me someone...how did a "Pinhead" become the leader of the free world?) and try to portray everything that happens as some evil plot of "Dubya" and Haliburton (Which, to be true, "Dubya" would have to be a all powerfull dictator, which, he obviously is not-But the unthinking are old hands at ignoring inconvenient facts).

After 50 years on this planet, over 30 of which the Democrats/liberals were in control, I have learned to discard the chaff and find the facts. The truth allways makes logical sense (Regardless of the hysterical screams from the unthinking), assuming, of course, that you survived the Government run screwel system with any of your brain intact to begin with.

I tell ya...the internet is much better than TV. The BS is real and not written by some hack in Hollywood. It's the only place where you REALLY get maximum bang for your ISP dollar.

w5klb

05-18-2004, 07:00 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 17 2004,13:36)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Just for a little perspective here; the majority of the cowboys on that list are fictional characters and not really a true reflection of what cowboys really were.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Care to come to Oklahoma and make that statement to some real cowboys? I know quite a few cowboys that may take issue with that statement.

If you want to read about a true cowboy/lawman go and read the TRUE story of Frank Eaton. He is the guy who is displayed on the side of the Oklahoma State University football helments-otherwise known as "Pistol Pete". Very interesting reading.

"Just for a little perspective here..."

"My heros have always been cowboys..." lyrics from an old Willie Nelson Tune.

KB9YCO

05-18-2004, 02:17 PM

"Care to come to Oklahoma and make that statement to some real cowboys? I know quite a few cowboys that may take issue with that statement." KD5WPW

Easy there toughguy, I didn't say real cowboys were bad people, I said that basing a real person on fictional characters from the old west is inaccurate for both. I hate to shatter your illusions but cowboy movies aren't exactly historically accurate.
Maybe the real old west gunlinger is a better characterization for Bush; arbitrary decisions in opposition to law, reasoning, common sense, logic, do what you want to because you have a bigger gun, with a dose of the bloodthirsty hick. Now that you mention it, he is a cowboy!
I still say HOWARD STERN FOR PRESIDENT ! !
Or how about Willie Nelson?! I got to see Willie last year in Milwaukee, I'd vote for him instead of these scumbag politicians that are our current choices.

KG4CGC

05-18-2004, 03:58 PM

Simply put, to the rest of the world, Cowboy = Imperialist.
If you want to see a real cowboy, I believe there are still 4 or 5 living in Argentina.

N8CPA

05-18-2004, 04:45 PM

Interesting cowboy trivia: #Buckaroo is a corruption of the Spanish word for cowboy, vaquero. #Vaca is the Spanish word for cow. The cowboys in Argentina are called gauchos--from an adjective for clever horsemen.

Regardless of language, I'd rather have a clever cowboy than a catsup gigolo in the Whitehouse.

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KB9YCO

05-18-2004, 05:04 PM

I'd rather have someone in the Whitehouse that doesn't need to put on an act all the time and uses common sense and logic. I suppose that's asking too much these days, just look at the choices we're given. Eeesh.

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 06:01 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 17 2004,13:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KC7JTY,
No Bill, I just enjoy feeding the animals once in awhile .......... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Personal entertainment Orv....thats what its all about.

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 06:17 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 17 2004,19:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yea, OK, Maybe the greatest President line was over doing it a bit. I mean, he hasn't gotten rid of code yet!!! So, we will retract that part of the statement. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Now, if Bush would just have the BALLS to go after that SADAR Cleric Dude and punch his ticket in NAJAF, that would put an end to this crap once and for all.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Seems the problem with Iraq would be erased if we would just DISARM the whole country. Thats what our gvt. would like to do with us. Why don't they just do it. #
# # # # # # # # # # # #Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
#Someone needs to tell me now that we don't have need of firearms in individual's hands because we are protected by a modern police force.
#
BTW: that pansy has the same amount of testicular material as Hillery does.....oh wait.......that wasn't what I meant.

KWW: I just noticed you were a kid in the 50s. Me too. I was checking for your age on the database. (thought you were much younger) I think if a person ever has to fend daily for his life and live on the street by his wit, he soon learns that the real world is very much different than the popular one. One learns human behavior or dies. If you understood human behavior you would know that the most obvious and simplistic solution to a problem is often the worse possible route to take.

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 06:31 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w9obf @ May 17 2004,20:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">#The best parts about W are his wife and mother. #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Bullsh*t......Are you serious?

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 06:41 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 17 2004,22:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Elect GW for a second term, keep the "good times ball rolling "..........[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yeah...and the country's offspring in debt up to their eyeballs for generations.

Israel's financial aid from us is not $2.5B/yr. They forgot to include the $150B (or whatever the hell it is by now) spent on this Iraq fiasco.

n0ov

05-18-2004, 06:44 PM

Yawn. Not a Bush problem.

Only way to reduce the debt is to get more people back to work. More people work, more taxes are collected, the more able we are to reduce the debt.

Get of the cross, someone else needs the wood.

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 06:56 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8GHB @ May 17 2004,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(Really? tell me someone...how did a "Pinhead" become the leader of the free world?)

#[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The Pinhead is a Puppet. DICK Cheney, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, and countless others set him up.

You support W and you say the truth always makes logical sense?.....WHA?

C Span, PBS, & Harpers Magazine are much more apt to have people with considerably more gray matter than you might find on the internet forums.

What is ISP? (I know its not the Idaho State Police).

BTW: You are 100% on with the screwel system.

ki4bgo

05-18-2004, 06:59 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 17 2004,21:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yea, OK, Maybe the greatest President line was over doing it a bit.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
A BIT!?! ...took me 15 minutes, to clean all the puke off my monitor, after reading it! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

n0ov

05-18-2004, 07:01 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 17 2004,12:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8GHB @ May 17 2004,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(Really? tell me someone...how did a "Pinhead" become the leader of the free world?)

#[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The Pinhead is a Puppet. DICK Cheney, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, and countless others set him up.

You support W and you say the truth always makes logical sense?.....WHA?

C Span, PBS, & Harpers Magazine are much more apt to have people with considerably more gray matter than you might find on the internet forums.

What is ISP? (I know its not the Idaho State Police).

BTW: You are 100% on with the screwel system.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That's not the real question.

How did he get elected for two terms?

Have to ask Cowboy Bill

While your at it -- look at the number of times old Bill deployed the military during his 8 years in the saddle.

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 07:07 PM

LNU: Oh, I'm sorry...I thought he was talking about George W Bush.

n0ov

05-18-2004, 07:09 PM

Look past the last 3 years and you'll find another, bigger pin head.

Seriously -- everything is cause/effect.

Some of the things that happened while Clinton was in office did not have a good effect.

Don't be sorry, not everyone is perfect http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

kc7jty

05-18-2004, 07:17 PM

I think the problem with the mindless wonders is that anyone who opposes W is automaticly a democrat who supported Clinton as well as all Democratic politicians.

I said this before and here goes again: I absolutely hated that SOB Clinton.

K0RGR

05-18-2004, 07:23 PM

Well, pilgrim, I loved John Wayne in the movies, but I would not elect him president. I suspect even he would have better sense than that. Wayne (real name: Marion Morrison) grew up in Iowa. Buffalo Bill Cody was another famous Iowan.

If you want to see real cowboys, take U.S. 50 East from Fallon, Nevada. There are lots of them out there, and I bet none of them learned to ride in Kennebunkport, Maine.

I used to wear cowboy boots all the time. This president proves that not everything is as it appears. Normally, the B.S. is on the outside of the boots.

kg4kww

05-18-2004, 09:18 PM

Well, Pilgrims, I just want to say that since cowboy George has been in office, there have been not other terrorist attacks on US Soil since 9/11. So, he and his band of cowpersons must be doing something right.

The only thing he needs to do is replace the FCC Chairman and get rid of code.

Now as for the chemical bombs found by our troops this only goes to reinforce what he said from the begginning. There are WMD'S in IRAQ.

Later, GW is on the red line, and I must take the call.

KC8UGM

05-18-2004, 09:53 PM

I can only imagine how Gore would have handled #9/11.Even IF GWB doesnt get elected for another term.He handled this right.Never forget the people that were killed on 9/11.
God Bless America !!!!!!!

N0PU

05-18-2004, 10:02 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 18 2004,15:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, Pilgrims, I just want to say that since cowboy George has been in office, there have been not other terrorist attacks on US Soil since 9/11. So, he and his band of cowpersons must be doing something right.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The Swiss haven't invaded us either, so he must be holding them at bay too...

No major reports of Alien invasion either...

Yep, ole GW's doin' a grand job by those measures...

Get real!

N0PU

05-18-2004, 10:06 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8UGM @ May 18 2004,15:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I can only imagine how Gore would have handled #9/11.Even IF GWB doesnt get elected for another term.He handled this right.Never forget the people that were killed on 9/11.
God Bless America !!!!!!![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep..I can agree with that...

And IF he had kept it up in Afghanistan, We might have found Bin Laden and cleaned up a lot of the AQ... With all the troops we have in Iraq, He could have had them hold hands and walk acroos all of Afghanistan and found him...

BUT, He screwed it up with this distraction of this stuip Iraq crap... What a waste of manpower... What a waste of lives... What a waste of Money... and most of all what a waste of our National standing in the World arena...

Basically what a waste...

w5klb

05-18-2004, 10:29 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 18 2004,07:17)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Care to come to Oklahoma and make that statement to some real cowboys? I know quite a few cowboys that may take issue with that statement." KD5WPW

Easy there toughguy, I didn't say real cowboys were bad people, I said that basing a real person on fictional characters from the old west is inaccurate for both. I hate to shatter your illusions but cowboy movies aren't exactly historically accurate.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thank you for that clarification OM.

Hollywood does seems to take a LOT of liberties when protraying cowboys on the big screen and on TV.

I'll put my guns back in their holsters.

Pilgrim, if ya ever ride down to my neck of the woods, I'll take ya to my favorite watering hole and treat ya to a sasparilla. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

w9obf

05-19-2004, 03:13 AM

KC7JTW - Man, you sound like is small-town drunk looking for his next bar fight. And I recall how most of those turned out back home. I am a certified liberal who has never voted Republican, and yet you find fault with my statement that the best part of W is his wife and mother? I think they are nice gals, just wrong-headed. So, big-thinker, tell me in specific terms what is wrong with them? When I look left and see guys like you, I begin to shiver. Frankly, you seem like the anti-Swaggert/Falwell/Robertson. I'm sure the righties love to see this.

K4JSR

05-19-2004, 03:16 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w9obf @ May 18 2004,20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KC7JTW - #Man, you sound like is small-town drunk looking for his next bar fight. #And I recall how most of those turned out back home. I am a certified liberal who has never voted Republican, and yet you find fault with my statement that the best part of W is his wife and mother? #I think they are nice gals, just wrong-headed. #So, big-thinker, tell me in specific terms what is wrong with them? #When I look left and see guys like you, I begin to shiver. #Frankly, you seem like the anti-Swaggert/Falwell/Robertson. # I'm sure the righties love to see this.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Naw! This is what the "Righties" like to see!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223099,00.html

John Kerry isn't the only one who flips and flops!
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K6UEY

05-19-2004, 03:36 AM

Can some one explain some thing,why is it when talking about or debating politics,the vernacular turns into"baby talk ".Lefties, righties and the one that demostrates a display of utter stupidity "Bushie". After all he is the president of the United States,and the leader of the free world.Whether you like, approve, or disapprove of his actions is it not possible to show at least some common courtesy for the office ? Is that the kind of Kindergarten rhetoric that is taught in the 21st Century schools ?? It is no wonder in these times of war that our enemies think we are total wimps and push overs,when they witness the total disregard of common decency and respect of our leaders.I think maybe our school year should be extended to a full 12 month year. Obviously the present 8 month year is not getting the job done.

w9obf

05-19-2004, 05:02 AM

K6UEY - With 1723 posts. you are not ecactly a shy guy. Your last post leave a lot to be desired, credibility-wise.
You folks on the other side seem to be squirming. Even though all of us liberals don't agree, we still are on the high moral ground on the quagmire in Iraq. This thing is tearing the country apart. Have any suggestions?

05-19-2004, 06:09 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 18 2004,11:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8GHB @ May 17 2004,22:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">(Really? tell me someone...how did a "Pinhead" become the leader of the free world?)

#[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
The Pinhead is a Puppet. DICK Cheney, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, and countless others set him up.

You support W and you say the truth always makes logical sense?.....WHA?

C Span, PBS, & Harpers Magazine are much more apt to have people with considerably more gray matter than you might find on the internet forums.

What is ISP? (I know its not the Idaho State Police).

BTW: You are 100% on with the screwel system.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Really? So George bush was "set up" by dick Cheney and pals? He's just a "pinhead" (Never mind a topflite education at one of the premier Universities on the planet), to be ordered around and manipulated by the powers that be?

LMAO. I think you need to re evaluate your thinking and get a clue. "Pinheads simply dont get elected to the most powerfull office in the world. I have news for the liberals:

FLASH! The american people are not anywhere near as stupid on the whole as you think/wish. You had your chance and now it's too late. Live with it.

And, yes, the truth allways makes logical sense. Cause and effect, grasshopper.

I read the posts here and I can agree with you about my having considerably more gray matter than many I find here and on the internet.

ISP=Internet Service Provider.

LMAO...This is good popcorn. Pardon me while I kick back and chuckle some more.

KB9YCO

05-19-2004, 02:34 PM

"Pilgrim, if ya ever ride down to my neck of the woods, I'll take ya to my favorite watering hole and treat ya to a sasparilla."

Oh come on, everyone knows it's sasparilly, jeez.

K0RGR

05-19-2004, 06:32 PM

Yes, Orv, we need to display respect for the office. Sadly, some of us think that this president and his predecessor have degraded the position a great deal.

You're right, 'Bushie' is a bit disrespectful, though 'Bushies' is a pretty widely used descriptor for those who comprise his cabinet and advisors, or those who support him. #When the columnists refer to 'Wolfie' and 'Rummy' we know who they're talking about.

On the hand, describing his statements as 'BUSHLIT' is an accurate depiction of the facts. (No, that's not a typo and I'm not poking fun at the president's occasional struggles to keep both feet out of his mouth).

K6UEY

05-19-2004, 07:09 PM

KØRGR,
Of course I respect your right to make choices ,based on your expectations of the Office. Yes The past Adminnistration was a disgrace to the office and the nation,and may have been a contributing factor to some of the foreign problems we are having now.I am still in wonderment as to how the second term ever came about, I know the voters are smarter than that,some one was a sleep at the switch on that one.
As to the present administration I for one am very pleased with what was promised and what was delivered,seldom what you see is what you get.I am also aware we on this side of the rockies may have a different set of expectations from our leaders than they do on the East coast. Out here we respect a man who says what he means and means what he says. We tend to keep our distance from those who wimp, and check the wind direction to decide the next move.
Could be G.W.Bush is ahead of his time,and the majority of the populace have not yet come up to speed. His move into Iraq was a bold move at securing world peace,and as he said in the beginning it will not be a quick walk in the park,but upon completion the world will be a safer and better place for all to live.
It has been awhile since Ronald Regan held that office it was time to once again let the world know who we are and what we stand for. It is always a good feeling to vote for a winner,so once again I will get that chance G.W. has my vote.

n0ov

05-19-2004, 07:52 PM

Only issue I have with GW Bush is his axis of evil speech. #In that one address he sent a message to the world he was looking for a fight.

The net result was he closed the door to discussions and the world became a much unsafer place to live -- especially from the North Korea stand point.

President is not only commander and chief -- he is also the head honcho in charge of foreign relations. #

If there is any lesson to be learned out of the first term is we cannot afford to burn bridges (that speech is also likely responsible for the lack of support from traditional allies before all our leaders made the decision to move on Iraq) (To head off the arguments that will be coming -- the President took this case to Congress and based on the best information available the risks were weighed and the decision to move forward with Iraq was made. That is what leadership is all about -- making the really tough decisions and standing pat when things go to hell in a handbasket)

I do agree on one thing -- Bush is a straight shooter -- you may not like what he says (or how he says it) but at least the cards are on the table.

November is going to be a tough call -- was hoping for another choise but Kerry is not showing me much

kg4kww

05-19-2004, 08:11 PM

Look Pilgrims, I just got off the <span style='color:red'>Red Line </span> with GW and he's pretty pissed about all this Bin-Laden / Kerry Crap.

He said that he's going after Bin-Laden using a new TOP TOP TOP SECRET Method. It's so, top secrect that he doesn't even know all the in's and out's. But, he has assured me that he will have Bin-Laden by the BALLS real soon.

Remember this GW might be a little slow on the uptake but, Kerry would be even worse. Because if Kerry were in office, SADAM might be released from jail to ride again.
Now, put that on your saddle and sit on it.

Yes GW knows, that he needs to go into NAJAF and get that SOB SADAR. He's just concerned about the backlash that it might have in an election year. Now, if the American public would tell him to lead the charge, he just might go into NAJAF and get that SOB.

What Ya Thank?

Oh yea, GW said he's in favor of code extermination...

kc7jty

05-19-2004, 10:46 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N0PU @ May 18 2004,15:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">BUT, He screwed it up with this distraction of this stuip Iraq crap... What a waste of manpower... What a waste of lives... What a waste of Money... and most of all what a waste of our National standing in the World arena...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Looks like something I'd post.......Hey Harry.....you're allright!

kc7jty

05-19-2004, 10:59 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w9obf @ May 18 2004,20:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KC7JTW - #Man, you sound like is small-town drunk looking for his next bar fight. #And I recall how most of those turned out back home. I am a certified liberal who has never voted Republican, and yet you find fault with my statement that the best part of W is his wife and mother? #I think they are nice gals, just wrong-headed. #So, big-thinker, tell me in specific terms what is wrong with them? #When I look left and see guys like you, I begin to shiver. #Frankly, you seem like the anti-Swaggert/Falwell/Robertson. # I'm sure the righties love to see this.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Do you mean JTY? I don't go to bars. Can't see spending top $ for cheap beer and have to rub elbows with a lot of low life cigarette loosers.
I'm a nice guy, just a big *ss hole (depending on who gets polled). What the h*ll are you talking about just wrong headed? Isn't that enough to get someone on the sh*t list? I suspect they are *@(^%$# ....but like I said its just a suspicion.
As far as the rest of your post: I'm NEITHER CONSERVATIVE NOR LIBERAL. I'm a free mind. I defy description.
"The righties love to see this"....give me a GD break. I'm anti numb skull Americana mainstream is what I am.

P.S. I would say some less than positive things about fundamentalist christians but it would be inappropriate here.

kc7jty

05-19-2004, 11:04 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 18 2004,20:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Naw! This is what the "Righties" like to see!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223099,00.html[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Give her a break. She is in FRANCE. The French aren't juvenile, puritan, prudes like we are.

KA9VQF

05-19-2004, 11:14 PM

I looked at this photo too. I think that any non fag..., I mean homo..., no that ain’t right…., queer?..., na …,GAY that’s it. Wouldn’t mind seeing something like this.

kc7jty

05-19-2004, 11:20 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KA9VQF @ May 19 2004,16:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I looked at this photo too. I think that any non fag..., I mean homo..., no that ain’t right…., queer?..., na …,GAY that’s it. Wouldn’t mind seeing something like this.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Did you notice her face?

KA9VQF

05-19-2004, 11:45 PM

Well..., not right at first.

K4JSR

05-19-2004, 11:47 PM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif4--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 19 2004,16http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif4)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 18 2004,20:16)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Naw! This is what the "Righties" like to see!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2004223099,00.html[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Give her a break. She is in FRANCE. The French aren't juvenile, puritan, prudes like we are.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I am giving her the same break you "Lefties" give to Bush's
daughters. #Oh, I forgot! #Only you bed wetters have the
attack with impunity license! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
You forgot to mention that the French are also a bunch of
snail eating surrender mongers, also!
Besides, I am only in this fracas because nobody around here
talks about ham radio any more.
Now that you LEFTY LIBERAL ANIMALS are fed, please have a nice day! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

73, #Cal # K4JSR

kg4kww

05-20-2004, 12:37 AM

DAMN!!! That's one Kerry I would vote for http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
She has a nice set of coconuts and isn't afraid to showum either...

Now can imangine if she had been in the Oval Office dressed like with Clinton, instead of Monica??

WOW WOW WOW!!!

Now, to get back to GW. GW is anti smut, therefore he wouldn't approve of a picture like this of his daughters. Hell, GW's daughters are still VIRGINS.

Do you think Kerry's daughter is?

Do you wonder if she's as good as she looks?

Could this be a plot to get votes for daddy?

You tell me, why hasn't this pic made the networks?

Later, I'm in conferance with GW on this matter.

ai4ep

05-20-2004, 01:04 AM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I wonder if GEORGE BUSH s twin daughters will allow pictures like that to be taken of them....2 women are twice as much fun as one !!

w5klb

05-20-2004, 02:34 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 19 2004,07:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">"Pilgrim, if ya ever ride down to my neck of the woods, I'll take ya to my favorite watering hole and treat ya to a sasparilla."

Oh come on, everyone knows it's sasparilly, jeez.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Dag nabit!!

Quit confusing me with the facts!!

HOW DARE YOU!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kg4kww

05-20-2004, 05:10 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wonder if GEORGE BUSH s twin daughters will allow pictures like that to be taken of them....2 women are twice as much fun as one !! [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

It could garner him some much needed votes, maybe even Clinton would vote for him!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

But, I would hope his daughters would have higher standards than that.

Well back to my 2mtr ssb pile up later. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KB9YCO

05-20-2004, 01:29 PM

All I've got to say is HEY NOW ! ! !

kc7jty

05-20-2004, 06:02 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 19 2004,16:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You forgot to mention that the French are also a bunch of
snail eating surrender mongers, also!
Besides, I am only in this fracas because nobody around here
talks about ham radio any more.
Now that you LEFTY LIBERAL ANIMALS are fed, please have a nice day! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

73, #Cal # K4JSR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Good golly....you sound rather emoticon. I'd prefer to live in a French world as opposed to the US/Israeli imperialist blood thirsty one you so rabidly embrace. Escargo anyone?

kc7jty

05-20-2004, 06:11 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 19 2004,17:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">She has a nice set of coconuts and isn't afraid to showum either...

Do you wonder if she's as good as she looks?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Are we lookin at the same pic? She looks like someone who could stop a clock by glancing at it. Those cocos as you call em look like frizbees to me.

BTW: On frontline on PBS here tonight is the story on GWB and the Jesus factor. Tune in kiddies and learn something about your great leader.

kg4kww

05-20-2004, 06:15 PM

I wouldn't mind living in France, their women wear see through dresses, with no under draws http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Maybe that style of dressing will catch on here.

GW, get rid of code and go get them terrorists SOB's,
ya hear!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

God Bless The USA!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

kc7jty

05-20-2004, 06:23 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ May 20 2004,11:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I wouldn't mind living in France, they womwn wear see through dresses, with no under draws http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Maybe that style of dressing will catch on here.

GW, get rid of code and go get them terrorists SOB's,
ya hear!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

God Bless The USA!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
French women don't shave their armpits.....are you sure you could handle that? The closer to reality you get the less comfortable the average American becomes.
#Join a nudist colony nearby, you don't have to go to France.

kc7jty

05-20-2004, 06:26 PM

Open invitation to any fundamentalist christian to engage me in a discussion about Israel. Any takers?

ki4bgo

05-20-2004, 06:36 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0LNU @ May 18 2004,13:44)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yawn. #Not a Bush problem.

Only way to reduce the debt is to get more people back to work. #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
....Back to work WHERE? At one of those companies outsourced to other counties? And it's not a "Bush problem"....uh...OK...sure. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

K6UEY

05-20-2004, 08:57 PM

KI4BGO,
Why not go to the source of the problem,and demand you be given work. Let the people who caused the work to be outsourced know how you feel about what they are doing to the country.Have them deduct your dues from the millions in #campaign money they give the Democrats to insure they can continue to destroy the economy of the country.Explain to them how having a job to go to is worth more than demanding a salary 4 times what your worth and have no jobs.It is fairly simple High School math, 4 x Ø = Ø .......

ki4bgo

05-20-2004, 11:40 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 20 2004,15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Have them deduct your dues from the millions in #campaign money they give the Democrats to insure they can continue to destroy the economy of the country.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Always the Democrats! Everytime this country's under republicrook rule, we've got economic trouble, but it's ALWAYS the Democrats' fault! I'm truly amazed, at how many blind people can type around here! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif #

kg4kww

05-21-2004, 01:04 AM

Folks, lets face it, if want to work, we are going to have to pull up stakes and head to India. That's the new frontier. Only problem, is their women don't dress like them thar french babes and they don't bath regular. PUUUUUUUUUUU !!!!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

And they don't eat meat!!!

Excuse me GW is back on the red line with Condi Rice.

Later

K4JSR

05-21-2004, 05:32 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 20 2004,11http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Good golly....you sound rather emoticon. I'd prefer to live in a French world as opposed to the US/Israeli imperialist blood thirsty one you so rabidly embrace. Escargo anyone?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
<!--emo&http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif There is an emoticon. #I don't hear it saying anything or making any sound at all!
Since you would rather live in a French world than here,
please go! #Delta is ready when you are! (But you better hurry, Delta is facing bankruptcy due to Carter Administration
de-regulation.) #Your snails and slugs await you!
Bon Apetit!
Yuk! #What some animals will eat! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
Oh yeah, remember to take your white flag with you!
You'll need it when the Jihadists come to get you. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
At that time you would probably scream that the country you hate needs to come rescue you and your quick to surrender
anti-semite friends. #
Please have a nice day, in France.
Oh, by the way, don't lay-over in the UK on your way to
suck down some snails. #You seem to have angered some UK
hams a few times by calling them limp.

kc7jty

05-21-2004, 06:23 PM

JSR: Do ya want me to check out some of those hairy armpits on the French women for ya?

Are you saying the French are anti-semite? And if you are is that a bad thing or do they have to be politically correct like us?

Wanting to point out MAJOR problems and make necessary repairs doesn't mean I hate this country. I'm sure you are all for freedom of speech and thought......untill, of course, you actually hear it.

BTW: Thomas Jefferson knew who our greatest enemy would be (and it wasn't from outsiders).

K6UEY

05-21-2004, 06:36 PM

I believe it was "POGO" who briefed Thomas Jefferson on that problem some years back. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

K4JSR

05-21-2004, 06:46 PM

JTY- How could Jefferson have predicted you?
You are the one who said that you'd rather live over there
rather than here. I just asked that you expedite your journey.
I want you to be happy eating snails and sniffing hairy armpits. You think hating Jews is a good thing?
I think hating anybody is wrong. I do not even hate you.
I think you are a silly "know-it-all-troll" who has no real
beliefs except what you, yourself state, such as:
1. You hate the USA and Isreal. You would rather live in France.
2. You hate Jews and are not the least apologetic about it.
3. You are the one who hates other's freedom of speech and
and have demonstrated that on many posts.

I could go on, but I prefer to stick your comments on this post
to show show your inconsistencies.
If you do not wish to live in France, try Syria. They don't like Jews, either. And you can probably use you KKK sheets for
clothing there and fit right in. Just a suggestion.
You seem to want to spout hate and would fit in nicely in
Syria. I just want you to be all you can be.
Toodles, Happy Camper!

K0YNE

05-21-2004, 06:54 PM

Oh, by the way. American products sold around the world has dropped from 30 percent to 27 percent. Atta way cowboy Bush. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

K6UEY

05-21-2004, 06:58 PM

JTY,
If you choose to go to Syria, please be careful where you step,the place is saturated with WMD. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

kc7jty

05-21-2004, 06:59 PM

JSR: Preferring to live in a French world as opposed to an Israeli/US imperialist one doesn't mean I'd rather live in France.
You are good at reading the American propagandist ideaology into everything I say. Continue on in your fabricated world while our country goes to hell, its what your lying, deceatfull, they don't trust us government wants.

n0ov

05-21-2004, 07:16 PM

Time to change what everyone is drinking.

Someone has spiked the punch! Hey folks, last time I looked the jews didn't fly planes into the towers. Also, last time I looked, they also didn't grow an entire generation of terrorist willing to blow them selves up for a cause (or a little pocket change when Sadam was around and in a giving mood)

If you're going to bash a country, at least bash one that has NO history of trying to help others. Some of the foreign policy decisions the US makes is, well for lack of a better term STUPID, however I would like to think we have helped more people than we harmed.

Perhaps this war and election stuff has taken too much of a toll -- consider taking a look at some of the good things that are happening too. Will help keep things in perspective

K4JSR

05-22-2004, 04:39 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 21 2004,11:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">JSR: Preferring to live in a French world as opposed to an Israeli/US imperialist one doesn't mean I'd rather live in France.
You are good at reading the American propagandist ideaology into everything I say. Continue on in your fabricated world while our country goes to hell, its what your lying, deceatfull, they don't trust us government wants.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
What a magnificent patriot you are, JTY. How many
"Militias" are you a member of?
There are times when I am not as fond of America as others,
but I have never reached the extreme level of hate you have
achieved. Keep on ranting! You are an excellent spokesman
for your cause. I am certain that millions will flock to your
location to hear you preach your doctrine. Don't be bashful,
now. Spit it on out and let us all know how you really feel!
We are waiting for your words of wisdom!
Do have a nice day!
73, Cal K4JSR

K4JSR

05-22-2004, 04:43 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 21 2004,12:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Where is Rodney King when you need him ?? I hope he is at least sober!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Orv, I believe that Mr. King is back in jail.
I seem to remember hearing that on the news a while back.
Sigh!
73, Cal K4JSR

w5klb

05-22-2004, 07:22 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 20 2004,11<!--emo&http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">... I'd prefer to live in a French world as opposed to the US/Israeli imperialist blood thirsty one you so rabidly embrace. Escargo anyone?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
For Sale

French military weapons-never been used and only dropped once.

k4uug

05-22-2004, 11:04 AM

John Kerry's Purple Heart's http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/16837.jpg

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/16574.jpg

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k4uug

05-22-2004, 11:22 AM

The Little Red Hen

Once upon a time, on a farm in Arkansas, there was a little red hen who scratched about the barnyard until she uncovered quite a few grains of wheat.

She called all of her neighbors together and said, "If we plant this wheat, we shall have bread to eat. Who will help me plant it?"

"Not I," said the cow.
"Not I," said the duck.
"Not I," said the pig.
"Not I," said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.

And so she did; The wheat grew very tall and ripened into golden grain.

"Who will help me reap my wheat?" asked the little red hen.

"Not I," said the duck.
"Out of my classification," said the pig.
"I'd lose my seniority," said the cow.
"I'd lose my unemployment compensation," said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen, and so she did.

At last it came time to bake the bread. "Who will help me bake the bread?" asked the little red hen.

"That would be overtime for me," said the cow.
"I'd lose my welfare benefits," said the duck.
"I'm a dropout and never learned how," said the pig.
"If I'm to be the only helper, that's discrimination,"
said the goose.

"Then I will do it by myself," said the little red hen.

She baked five loaves and held them up for all of her neighbors to see.

They wanted some and, in fact, demanded a share. But the little red hen said, "No, I shall eat all five loaves."

"Excess profits!" cried the cow.
"Capitalist leech!" screamed the duck.
"I demand equal rights!" yelled the goose.
The pig just grunted in disdain.

And they all painted "Unfair!" picket signs and marched around and around the little red hen, shouting obscenities.

Then a government agent came, he said to the little red hen, "You must not be so greedy."

"But I earned the bread," said the little red hen.

"Exactly," said the agent. "That is what makes our free enterprise system so wonderful. Anyone in the barnyard can earn as much as he wants. But under our modern government regulations, the productive workers must divide the fruits of their labor with those who are lazy and idle."

And they all lived happily ever after, including the little red hen, who smiled and clucked, "I am grateful, for now I truly understand."

But her neighbors became quite disappointed in her. She never again baked bread because she joined the "party"
and got her bread free.

And all the Democrats smiled. 'Fairness' had been established. Individual initiative had died but nobody noticed; perhaps no one cared, as long as there was free bread.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

k4uug

05-22-2004, 11:26 AM

Compassionate Cowboy

Leftists, particularly Leftists from dinky European nations like France,Belgium, Denmark and Vermont, have contempt for any American 'cowboys.' Cowboy means more that plain old cowboys; it means hillbillies, roughnecks, lumberjacks and any other men who live a tough outdoor life. Cowboys are supposed to be dangerous dummies who drink too much and shoot revolvers on town streets.

Americans view cowboys very differently. We see John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Clint Eastwood and Gary Cooper. We see the good guys who stand up to bad guys. We see men with guns who stop Nazis from murdering Jews, Taliban goons from raping girls and Baathist party thugs from torturing children.

It is not accidental that the two American presidents most loathed by Leftists are also the two most commonly called 'cowboys' - Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. It is also not accidental that these two cowboys have proven most successful in directly confronting militant evil in the world.

These sort of Americans, Leftists say, are 'reckless' and 'trigger happy.' No, they are not. They are men who shoot back. A defining moment occurred on August 20, 1981. Qaddafi, the dictator of Libya, had announced that the Gulf of Sidra was part of Libya and that it was the 'line of death' to anyone who crossed it.

President Reagan authorized the American Navy to ignore the cautions of Carter. When Qaddafi sent two warplanes to threaten the USS Nimitz, two American F-14 Tomcats rose to encounter them and when the Libyan planes fired on our Tomcats shot back and shot them down.

Hyperactive reporters peppered Reagan officials with questions: "Did anyone wake the President when this happened?" "No" was the calm answer. Our naval vessels were in international waters and we were asserting our right to be there. If Qaddifi challenged us, we would defeat his challenge - and we did. There was no need to wake the President up for that.

Cowboy presidents befuddle Leftists of all nationalities, who have no true conception of real America. These Leftists mistake simplicity for stupidity, resolve for recklessness and compassion for carelessness.

They cannot conceive of a president whose Cold War strategy is: "How about this - we win; they lose?" They also cannot conceive of a president who identifies evil as evil and cooly says that America will defeat evil. Leftists do not associate compassion with defeating monsters who brutalize innocent people. Cowboys and other ordinary Americans correctly understand that standing tough and being kind go together.

One consequence of Leftist delusions is that they cannot see what the rest of America can so plainly see: President Bush, like President Reagan, are first and foremost good and noble men. Their courage - their cowboy confidence - comes from abiding moral certainty. They act from love, and not from hate.

We look at President Bush as we looked twenty years ago at President Reagan. When we see these sorts of men, we see Gary Cooper or Jimmy Stewart on riding into town with his revolver and rifle in easy reach, determined to clean up a town terrorized by vicious outlaws. We know that the Duke never draws first and he always warns the bad guys that they better move along, if they know what is good for them. Some do, but others learn the hard way.

When the good guys have run the bad guys out of town, the people of the town are safe. The bullies who horsewhipped the old sheriff are now six feet under ground...at least. The mothers who were afraid to send their kids in the street are not afraid anymore. The shopkeepers fix repair their stores. The farmers plant crops. The choir in the church starts singing again.

Leftists have never understood the beauty and the sweetness of this image. They see men who fight as all the same. Leftists do not grasp that a 'hillbilly' like Sergeant York, a marksman of incredible skill who lived in the beauty of the backwoods and read the Bible seriously, could be a good and gentle man, who had to think hard about whether or not he could even kill another man.

The tricks and shadows of the Leftist mind can not conceive that a bundle of virtues like courage, independence, patience and strength could also be naturally connected to compassion, earnestness, honesty and faith. The Left does not see that cowboys are good, not bad.

That includes cowboys in the White House, who protect us from the outlaw gangs which understand only a steely eye and a well aimed barrel. The rest of us - normal people in Bagdad, Birmingham, Basra or Butte - understand and appreciate compassionate cowboys.
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K4JSR

05-22-2004, 04:02 PM

Rick, May God Bless you as you have blessed us with your honorable service to this great Nation.
I have forwarded your posts to my son who is with the 101st
at Fort Campbell.
Your post epitomizes all that is right and good about America.
None of the negativety of the leftist elite.
I think since the the left likes to stereotype us as neo-cons
that we should return the favor by calling them the NEO-COMS-- Short for Neo Communists.
Come on you Neo-Coms, let's see some of your rage over
getting just a small dose of your own medicine!
HOOOOAAAAAH!
73, Cal Neff K4JSR Charter Member, Vast Right Wing
Conspiracy. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kc7jty

05-22-2004, 07:16 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 21 2004,21:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Orv, #I believe that Mr. King is back in jail.
I seem to remember hearing that on the news a while back.
Sigh!
73, #Cal #K4JSR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
JSR: I'm interested in your "sigh!" here. Is that because Rodney King is your hero and is unjustly in jail because of the white, racist, bigot pigs who put him there?

BTW: The "S" word has now come into the Iraqi prisioner photo dilema. Thats S as in SODOM AND GOMORRA. The world has always known how prison inmates in the US are treated, I guess now it extends to our POWs as well.
http:/www.antiwar.com/orig/mercer.php?articleid=2583

k4uug

05-22-2004, 10:45 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4JSR @ May 22 2004,12:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have forwarded your posts to my son who is with the 101st at Fort Campbell. #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I served with the 101st Airborne Div Scout Platoon Co.D 1/327th and the 101st Pathfinder (Airborne)detachment!I hope all is well with your son God Bless him and keep him safe. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

k4uug

05-22-2004, 10:57 PM

Differences Between Republicans & Democrats

Q: What's a conservative?
A: A liberal who made it through adolescence

Q: How many republicans does it take to raise your taxes?
A: None. The democrats do that.

Q: What is the difference between a liberal and a puppy?
A: A puppy stops whining after it grows up.

Q: What is the difference between an intelligent liberal and Bigfoot?
A: Bigfoot has been spotted.

Q: What is a conservative?
A: A liberal who's been mugged.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a trampoline?
A: You take off your shoes before you jump on a trampoline.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a prostitute?
A: The prostitute give value for the money she takes.

Q: What's the difference between a dead skunk in the road and a dead Democrat in the road?
A: Vultures will eat the skunk.

Q: What's the difference between a Democrat and a catfish?
A: One is an ugly, scum sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.

Q: What do you get when you cross a bad politician with a lawyer?
A: Chelsea.

Q: What do you get when you cross a pilgrim with a democrat?
A: A god-fearing tax collector who gives thanks for what other people have.

Q: Why should Democrats be buried 100 feet deep?
A: Because deep down, they're really good people.

Q: What happens when you cross a pig with a Democrat?
A: Nothing. There are some things a pig won't do.

Q: Why did God create Democrats?
A: In order to make used car salesmen look good.

Q: What is a recent Democrat graduate's usual question in his first job?
A: What would you like to have with your french fries, sir?

Q. How many Democrats does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A. Just one, but it really gets screwed.

Q: How many Democrats does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: It's irrelevant; they still don't know they're in the dark!
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KA8NCR

05-22-2004, 11:01 PM

I used to be a Republitard, until I realized that Bush and company were selling this country out to their cronies.

Now I'm independant and will vote for the party that doesn't control Congress. That way, there will be at least two years of gridlock and nothing gets done.

k4uug

05-22-2004, 11:07 PM

A Democrat Dies and Goes to Heaven

While walking out of Hillary Clinton's office one day an elected Democrat is tragically hit by an ACLU truck full of creches, crosses, and Ten Commandment monuments, and dies.

The Democrat's soul arrives in Heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance.

"Welcome to Heaven," says St. Peter. "Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see an elected official around these parts, let alone a Democrat, so we're not sure what to do with you."

"No problem, just let me in," says the Democrat.

"Well, I'd like to but I have orders from higher up. What we'll do is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity," St Peter says.

"Really, I've made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven," says the Democrat.

"I'm sorry but we have our rules," St Peter says.

And with that, St. Peter escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell.

The doors open and he finds himself in the middle of a beautiful green golf course with a big sign saying, "Welcome to Hell."

In the distance is a luxurious club house and standing in front of it are all his Democrat friends and politicians who had worked with him. Everyone is very happy and elegantly garbed in fancy evening dress.

The Democrats run to greet him, hug him, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at the expense of the people when Bill Clinton was president.

They play a friendly game of golf and then amble over to the club house dining room to dine on lobster and caviar washed down with champagne.

Also present is the Devil, who really is a very friendly guy and is wearing a Hillary for President button. He is a wonderful host and joins in the dancing and telling jokes.

They are having such a good time that, before the Democrat realizes it, it is time to go.

All the other Democrats give him a big hug and wave while the elevator doors open. "Come back soon," they all laughed.

The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for him.

"Now it's time to visit Heaven," he says.

So the the Democrat joins a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp, and singing.

They are having a good time but, for a Democrat, it was very boring and the Demmocrat felt really threatened when the group started praying. "This is too much like being in a sectarian church," the Democrat grumbled. Before he realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.

"Well then, you've spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose where to spend eternity."

The Democrat reflects for a minute, then answers trying to be politically correct: "Well, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but after thinking it over, I think I would be better off in Hell."

So Saint Peter smiles and escorts him to the elevator and he goes down, down, down to Hell.

Now the doors of the elevator open and the Democrat is in the middle of a barren wasteland covered with garbage and discarded Elect Hillary Clinton for President signs. He sees all his friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash, putting it in black bags, moaning and groaning.

The Devil comes over, glares at him, lays his arm on his neck, and hands him a stack of garbage bags.

"I don't understand," stammers the Democrat. "Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and club house and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. Now all there is a garbage dump and my Democrat friends look so miserable."

The Devil looks at him, laughs his evil laugh, and says, "Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted for us!"

kg4kww

05-23-2004, 02:43 AM

N1OBN - Good Post.

At least with Bush we have not had a Monica Gate in the
Oval Office, and that's good news. It shows that Bush knows when and where to fly fish. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Now, the question of questions:

Since GW is the President, does that mean that his daughters wouldn't be allowed to show the Oval Office to their beaus when daddy wasn't present and the staff was off? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I will vote for Bush if he has MP get rid of code..

Otherwise,I will vote for Alexandria Kerry ... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Later

KA8NCR

05-23-2004, 03:00 AM

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Since GW is the President, does that mean that his daughters wouldn't be allowed to show the Oval Office to their bows when daddy wasn't present and the staff was off? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I think you mean beau and the answer is no. They were too busy drinking on fake IDs while they were underaged.

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I will vote for Bush if he has MP get rid of code..
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

You seem to have a lot of displaced aggression toward code. What's up with that?

k4uug

05-23-2004, 10:44 AM

Bush Took My Job& Killed My Sons

Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak my mind. I lost my job this past year. When Clinton was president I was secure and prosperous, but in the last year, we had to close our operations. We simply could not compete with foreign labor. This foreign labor worked for low pay under very bad conditions.

They worked very long shifts, and many even died on the job.

This competition could hardly be called "fair." I was forced out of the place where I had worked for 34 years.

Not a single government program was there to help me.

How can Bush call himself "compassionate?" Far worse, I lost two of my sons in Bush's evil war in Iraq. They gave their lives for their country, and for what? So that Bush's oil buddies can get rich. My pain of losing my sons is indescribable.

While it is trivial next to the loss of my sons, I regret to say that I also lost my home. I simply have nothing left. How can Bush call himself a Christian when he neglects people like me? I am a senior citizen with various medical problems. I'm not in a position where I can begin a new career. I was reduced to the point where I had to live in a hole in a ground, all because of President Bush.

And when the authorities found me there, did they have any compassion for my misfortune and ailments? No, I was arrested. Mr. Bush, I dare you to look me in the face and tell me you are a compassionate man! I dare you to look me in the face and tell me you are a Christian! If I had any money left, I would donate it to the Democrat Party.

If Al Gore had been elected in 2000 I would still have a job, a home, and most importantly, my dear sons!

Regards,
Saddam Hussein
http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/15455.JPG

k4uug

05-23-2004, 11:00 AM

John Kerry used footage of President Bush' carrier landing to attack his Iraq policies.

Anyone remember the "principled" position the Democrats took on this issue a few months ago?

From the DNC Website http://www.democrats.org/news/200305090001.html

May 9, 2003: Democrats call on President Bush Not to Use Carrier Landing for Campaign Commercial

Washington, DC -- Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman, Terry McAuliffe issued the following statement:

"Considering the expense to the American taxpayer and use of American military men and women as 'extras' for this media stunt, the President should pledge that his landing not appear in any presidential campaign commercials and videos.

"This whole stunt has been misrepresented by the administration and no wonder, as the whole thing is increasingly indefensible. They have wasted taxpayer dollars, misled the public about the facts and wasted the time of the American military. There will be plenty of footage of George Bush walking the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln. This footage should not be included as an 'in kind' campaign contribution by the American taxpayer."

Apparently, like campaign finance reform limitations, principles only matter to Democrats when they think there's nothing in it for themselves. It's okay to use the troops as props to attack Bush, but demeaning to use this same footage to support Bush.

http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/9862.jpg

K3XR

05-23-2004, 12:14 PM

Very strange, the Party of diversity and PC seems to discriminate when it comes to cowboys.

DAN, K3XR

KA8NCR

05-23-2004, 01:32 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K3XR @ May 23 2004,05:14)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Very strange, the Party of diversity and PC seems to discriminate when it comes to cowboys.

DAN, K3XR[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You're right! But take heart, they only discriminate against the stupid ones.

K6UEY

05-23-2004, 07:11 PM

If two men were standing talking and the first man was the President of the United States and the Leader of the Free world, and the second man did not understand what the first man was saying or trying to do,which one would you suspect is the stupid one ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

KA8NCR

05-23-2004, 07:34 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 23 2004,12:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If two men were standing talking and the first man was the President of the United States and the Leader of the Free world, and the second man did not understand what the first man was saying or trying to do,which one would you suspect is the stupid one ? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I completely understand what Bush says and is trying to do. That's why I'm not voting for him this time around.

Yeah, you heard right, I voted for him the first time. And I may vote straight ticket against the Republitard party too.

I need to find the responses to the letters I wrote to the county Republitard party and the national office. I saved them because they were just so insipid that they bear a place in the national archives under "how to destroy your political party".

The Republitards need money, but they've failed to realize that they need the vote of people like myself in order to actually maintain the power they so desperately crave. They can't do it with just the votes of people who contribute scads of money. They've made it abundantly clear where people like myself stand within the Republitard plans.

Ergo, after reading their letter and seeing their actions, I've told them to shove-off.

kc7jty

05-23-2004, 07:58 PM

Orv: Are you going to go down with the ship (Iraq) or start swimming with the rest of the rats at the last minute?

K6UEY

05-23-2004, 08:21 PM

KC7JTY,
Bill if you are asking do I support the President of the United States and his actions,the answer is an unequivocal yes !! I believe it to be a Bold, but sincere attempt to bring peace to the middle Eastern area and the World. It will upon completion protect the sovereignty and the defence of the United States for decades to come, as I have outlined in a previous posting.
Do I think G.W. Bush should be re-elected to finish the job "You betchum Kimo sabe!" As Harold Smith of Nevada used to say "Always quit winners".It was the Cowboy who tamed first the West, now the World !!

KA8NCR

05-23-2004, 08:30 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 23 2004,13:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KC7JTY,
Bill if you are asking do I support the President of the United States and his actions,the answer is an unequivocal yes !! I believe it to be a Bold, but sincere attempt to bring peace to the middle Eastern area and the World. It will upon completion protect the sovereignty and the defence of the United States for decades to come, as I have outlined in a previous posting.
Do I think G.W. Bush should be re-elected to finish the job "You betchum Kimo sabe!" As Harold Smith of Nevada used to say "Always quit winners".It was the Cowboy who tamed first the West, now the World !![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm beginning to agree with your cowboy analogy.

Ride across someone else's lands for your own commercial interests, and when confronted about why you shouldn't be there, shoot them dead. If you are opposed by the true owners of the lands you're currently occupying, shoot them dead too.

Wonderful! I have seen the light. Thank you for making this Iraq thing so much clearer.

kc7jty

05-23-2004, 08:31 PM

Orv: I'm well aware of your positions on current affairs. I'm asking you, when the time comes and the US finally abandons its original objective with Iraq (which will be at odds with GWB since he has vowed to "stay the course") will you continue to side with GWB in his original plan or will you accept the new direction?

kc7jty

05-23-2004, 08:32 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ka8ncr @ May 23 2004,13:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm beginning to agree with your cowboy analogy.

Ride across someone else's lands for your own commercial interests, and when confronted about why you shouldn't be there, shoot them dead. #If you are opposed by the true owners of the lands you're currently occupying, shoot them dead too.

Wonderful! #I have seen the light. #Thank you for making this Iraq thing so much clearer.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Do you know any modern day American Indians?
Many still are not fond of the white man....too late now though.

KA8NCR

05-23-2004, 08:52 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 23 2004,13:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ka8ncr @ May 23 2004,13:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm beginning to agree with your cowboy analogy.

Ride across someone else's lands for your own commercial interests, and when confronted about why you shouldn't be there, shoot them dead. If you are opposed by the true owners of the lands you're currently occupying, shoot them dead too.

Wonderful! I have seen the light. Thank you for making this Iraq thing so much clearer.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Do you know any modern day American Indians?
Many still are not fond of the white man....too late now though.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sure do; from the Brule Sioux. And while hatred is not expressed across the entire white race, some things are never forgotten nor forgiven.

It's good to see we're still able to sow the seeds of hatred.

Joke time:

During the 60's, it was not uncommon for NASA to send its astronauts into the New Mexico desert in spacesuits for testing and training. One day, two astronauts came walking across a little Navajo boy and his grandfather. The grandfather was amused and curious, but not speaking English he could only ask his grandson questions for translation.

He asked what these strange men were doing and the little boy translated. The astronauts replied that they were training to go to the moon and when the little boy explain this to his grandfather, the old man became excited and spoke very quickly. The little boy turned to the astronauts and said that his grandfather would like them to take a message to the moon.

Well you know how our government works; NASA saw this as a wonderful PR opportunity and went to the village where the boy and old man lived with a tape recorder so the old man could record the message in his native language. Once they were situated, the old man spoke slowly and deliberately into the microphone, and at the end paused and gave a wry smile. Once the taping stopped, the old man turned to his grandson and gave a stern look and said something very brief and obviously were some strong instructions.

The people from NASA asked what the old man said on tape and the grandson only giggled and said "sorry, my grandfather has instructed me not to repeat what was said, it is a message between an old chief and the chief of the nation of the moon". The grandson continued to giggle.

Obviously not satisfied with this answer, the NASA people took the tape recorder into town and found a couple Navajo people in a bar. They told the various Navajo people that they have a message from an old Navajo man that they were taking to the moon and wondered if they could translate it. They played the tape and they simply busted out in laughter, but wouldn't translate it.

NASA was on a mission now to find out what the old man had said. They contacted other government agencies to find a translator and after a few weeks, a Navajo-looking man in a dark blue suit from the FBI showed up and asked them to play the tape. NASA played the tape and true to form, the Navajo man started laughing.

He said the old man's message was "Hello to the nation of the moon from the Navajo nation. Watch these sons-of-b****es because they're here to steal your land too".

K6UEY

05-23-2004, 09:04 PM

KC7JTY,
Bill there is no second option in IRAQ,previous Administrations buried the options long ago.If the US does not stay the course and see this to it's final completion, we will not be able to show our face any where in the world.History repeats it self. And you will not need a fiddler to see the repeat performance of "The Fall Of Rome ". We walked out on the sheites (sp) causing many to be slaughtered,we walked out on the Kurds,causing many to be slaughtered,we walked out on the Pakistani's allowing the Talleban (sp)to take over Afghanistan and providing a base for Bin Laden to train his people to kill 3000 here at the WTC,how many times will the world sit back and allow us to tuck our wimpy tail between our legs and run home yelping like an injured dog.? No there is only one intelligent option this country has and that is to allow GW to finish the job he started.I think the American people will rally behind him, hell look at Clinton,he embarked on a program to ruin the economy and the people allowed him a second term to finish it off. This time they can make up for that decision by making a smart move .

w5klb

05-24-2004, 02:24 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 23 2004,13:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you know any modern day American Indians?
Many still are not fond of the white man....too late now though.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
JTY:

You could not convince most of them or me of this. I live in a state that speaks more different languages then any other place in the world! Native Americans participate and have helped with numerous civic activities involving the "white man". They choose to work with him. I know this because I live in the Cherokee Nation and in close proximity to the Osage Nation here in Oklahoma all my life exept for my military service. They have also served in the military and have helped us win WWII. Remember the Navajo Code talkers?

P.S. I am also part Cherokee, Potowatame, and Mohawk. That would make me a "modern day American Indian" wouldn't it? I am damn sure going to vote for George Bush like a whole lot of other Native Americans I know. Most of us "Injuns" here like him.

Nuff said.

kg4kww

05-24-2004, 03:09 AM

Look Hard Heads, I'm going to say it one more time.

At least with Bush we have not had a Monica Gate in the
Oval Office, and that's good news. It shows that Bush knows when and where to fly fish.

Also, there have been no more terrorist attacks on US Soil. So, the cowboy wearing the white hat (Bush) has scored again. Anotherwords the terrorists are scared of him!!!

Now, the question of questions:

Since GW is the President, does that mean that his daughters wouldn't be allowed to show the Oval Office to their beaus when daddy wasn't present and the staff was off?

I will vote for Bush if he has MP get rid of code..

Otherwise,I will vote for Alexandria Kerry ...

Later

KB9YCO

05-24-2004, 06:50 PM

As I recall we had the largest surplus in history with Clinton, but don't let me bore you with those facts. That whole Monica thing was bad , no one has claimed to be proud of it either, but I'll tell you what's worse:

How about a president that not only spent the entire surplus but also bankrupted the treasury and set the record for the biggest annual deficit in history?
How about a president that set an economic record for the most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period and set the all time record for the most foreclosures in a 12 month period?
How about a president whose economic policies set the all time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market?
How about being the first president in United States history to enter office with a criminal record and appointed more convicted criminals to his administration positions than any president in United States history?
Or a president that changed United States policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts? And then set the highest record for number of administration appointees who violated United States law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. (There's something to be proud of!)
Or how about a president that in the first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their jobs? (Many of these things started before 9-11, so that excuse doesn't work either, I know someone out there would've tried that one.)
How about a president that cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history? #
How about a president that presided over the biggest energy crisis in United States history, and then refused to intervene when corruption was revealed?
Or a president that presided over the highest gasoline prices in United States history? (I thought he was the oil president?) #
I wonder who that could be? Yeeehaw Dubya, ya'll is the winner!
Sorry, didn't mean to bog down this thread with facts.

n0ov

05-24-2004, 06:55 PM

CYO

To have a tax surplus you have to have jobs to bring income in. #Fact is economy was starting to show signs of recessionary behavior right before the election. (Clinton also has the record of the biggest abuse of a fine cigar, but we won't go there)

Also, in war time a lot of funding is needed to support our troops in the field. #This is also a major contributor to the red ink.

Can blame this stuff on Bush. #Fact is the only thing you can blame on Bush was that stupid Axis of Evil speech. #(That alone is enought for me to evaluate other options during the next election)

As for the Cowboy post, where can I get one of them Bush Cowboy Hats!

kc7jty

05-24-2004, 07:01 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K6UEY @ May 23 2004,14:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KC7JTY,
Bill there is no second option in IRAQ,previous Administrations buried the options long ago.If the US does not stay the course.........etc[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Its a sad state of affairs all right. I feel we will fail in Iraq....but then again what is failure? (after all we got Sadaam). We've been at it for some time now (failure), as you admit.
We are doing more damage to ourselves by making all these blunders. The camel jockies are right....they are playing us like a fiddle. We will cause our own demise by our own hand. It will not come from pay back by those we have wronged over decades. We can head off this problem by waking the h*ll up but, alas....I don't think we have the ability to do it.

kc7jty

05-24-2004, 07:13 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5wpw @ May 23 2004,19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kc7jty @ May 23 2004,13:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Do you know any modern day American Indians?
Many still are not fond of the white man....too late now though.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
JTY:

You could not convince most of them or me of this........[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Good deal for these of whom you speak. I am familiar with native americans (pc speak) in AZ, MT, and the Dakotas many of who "live" on the rez. I also spent considerable time on the road (I have well in excess of 100k miles riding freight trains hobo style all over the continental US) many of the N As I met aren't fond of the white man. Then again they have very serious problems and need someone to take the blame. Ever see a man get drunk drinking hair spray who didn't give a damn if he lived or died because of it?

N0PU

05-24-2004, 07:36 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YCO @ May 24 2004,12:50)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about being the first president in United States history to enter office with a criminal record and appointed more convicted criminals to his administration positions than any president in United States history?

Or a president that changed United States policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts? And then set the highest record for number of administration appointees who violated United States law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. (There's something to be proud of!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Sorry, didn't mean to bog down this thread with facts.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I know about Elliott Abrams, but does he have other convicted Felons on his staff?

Just curious... Maybe we DO need one more law... No convicted FELONS in high offices! ... Jeeezzzzzzz... I never thought I'd say we need another law... that's disgusting... Thanks Bush...

K6UEY

05-24-2004, 08:20 PM

NØPU,
Come on Harry, your are smarter than that, don't let them suck you into believing all that BiaS....

KB9YCO

05-24-2004, 08:51 PM

OK Orv, if it's bias then refute any of the facts I've listed. Go ahead, give it a try.
Contrary to what you so often assume about me, I don't allow partisan politics to cloud my thinking.

KB9YCO

05-25-2004, 03:09 PM

I didn't think so.

n3ijw

05-25-2004, 03:38 PM

I'll give it a shot.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about a president that not only spent the entire surplus but also bankrupted the treasury and set the record for the biggest annual deficit in history?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Spending power resides with Congress, not the President.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about a president that set an economic record for the most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period and set the all time record for the most foreclosures in a 12 month period[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
And when Clinton was in office, the same could have been said about him. And GHWB. And Reagan. And Carter. Etc, etc.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about a president whose economic policies set the all time record for the biggest drop in the history of the stock market?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Nope. That was October 19, 1987. In fact, any decline in the stock market during GWBs entire term to date doesn't even rank in the top ten of all market crashes.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How about being the first president in United States history to enter office with a criminal record[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
A DUI in 1976? Wow. He's right up there with John Gotti!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">appointed more convicted criminals to his administration positions than any president in United States history?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Please provide evidence for this assertion.

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or a president that changed United States policy to allow convicted criminals to be awa