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W4TEY
05-17-2004, 01:39 PM
Have any of you heard of a boycott on gas this Wed. Seems to me this was done a few years ago and it worked. Rumor here in E. TN. is that we are being asked not go buy any fuel this Wed. the 19th

ai4ep
05-17-2004, 02:38 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif GREAT idea !! IF EVERY ONE would not buy any GASOLINE on one particuler day...it would SHOW what effect the general public CAN have on gas sales......even if it were a lot more on the day before / after .

I am in favor of it !!

I will be looking here for more info to pass around here in north Alabama.

One small point to make : It wouold be OK to stop at these gas stations and BUY cigarettes, drinks, ice, food...but do NOT buy any gasoline ... just make a BIG point not to buy any gasoline.


73


---ai4ep---

K4JSR
05-17-2004, 02:54 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ May 17 2004,07:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif GREAT idea !! IF EVERY ONE would not buy any GASOLINE on one particuler day...it would SHOW what effect the general public CAN have on gas sales......even if it were a lot more on the day before / after .

I am in favor of it !!

I will be looking here for more info to pass around here in north Alabama.

One small point to make : It wouold be OK to stop at these gas stations and BUY cigarettes, drinks, ice, food...but do NOT buy any gasoline ... just make a BIG point not to buy any gasoline.


73


---ai4ep---[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
And when we go in there on Wednesday to buy misc. goodies
we could all eructate loudly and give them the gas! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Just think, you could change BP to BurP or BraP! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Boy! That would sure show 'em a thing or ten! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Make all of the politicos in DC ride around the Belchway!

Yeah, sure, it'll work! You can always trust everything you
receive on the internet! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

73 and HAW! Cal K4JSR

PS. EP, I guess I'll just have to miss my annual pilgrimage to
the 'Coon Dog Cemetery in Red Bay this year!! Sadness!

KI4DYA
05-17-2004, 03:04 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It wouold be OK to stop at these gas stations and BUY cigarettes[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Oh it had better be! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I suffer from terminal forgotthesmokes whenever I'm in ANY store other than a gas station.

w5klb
05-17-2004, 03:47 PM
Here are some of the reasons why our gasoline prices are so high:

-Gasoline markets are tight

-Crude oil is selling for $41 dollors a barrell (an all time high).

-OPEC cut 1 million barrels of oil per day plus another 1.5 million in over production.

-We import 62% of our oil.

-Numerous changes in US fuel formulation. From what I understand that these specifications have dropped our imports and have dropped our inventories

-China (PRC) has increase their crude oil imports by 36% making an a significant impact on oil markets.

The Department of Engergy has had numerous investigations concerning the price of gasoline at the pump and has found no evidence of wrong doing.

Source: American Petroleum Institute

Boycott all you want if you think it can overcome some these market forces. I'm not trying to dampen anyone's spirit here, but I personally do not think a one day boycott will not do much good, but I will give you all an &quot;A&quot; for the effort.

Good consevation efforts might help like slowing down your speed while driving, don't make any unnecessary trips, carpooling, and quite buying those gas gusslers (I'm guilty as charged on this one). This would do more for the price of gas than ANY one day boycott.

AG3Y
05-17-2004, 04:01 PM
So what are you going to do after your gas tank runs dry, WALK to work ? # #For me, that would be a pretty good trek, 44 miles over two mountain peaks. #

No, don't suggest that I get another job, I like putting together prototypes for a Satellite Entertainment company.

And don't suggest that I move closer to my job. #The average price of a nice house in my town is $125 K , but down where I work, it is &quot;low 300s&quot; #! #You can still buy a lot of gasolene for the difference in costs!

Oh, and there is still this little matter about the &quot;record high profits&quot; being reported by the gas companies, that bothers me just a little bit ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

73 from Jim AG3Y

KG4CGC
05-17-2004, 04:21 PM
Let's just add a little twist to the boycott. What if no one showed up for work on the same day as the gas boycott. That would get a lot of attention. Too bad I can't take credit for that idea as my own.
KG4CGC

w5klb
05-17-2004, 04:25 PM
Jim, AG3Y,

Going to work 44 miles away is NOT an unecessary trip. Ya gots to work in order to eat and pay bills but are you the only one that drives this 44 miles? All I am saying that if EVERYONE do their part and try conserve fuel where ever they can, it can save some big bucks on the fuel bill. This is something that if people thought long enough and hard enough on they can find ways of doing this. This is something that they can do EVERY DAY!

I am old enough to remember the 1970's and the oil embarrgo and what we had to do to conserve. We may have to resort to those &quot;old ways&quot; again if this situation gets any worse.

I think this idea would work better than any ONE DAY boycott.

k7dlx
05-17-2004, 04:32 PM
Obligatory Snopes Link (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp)

73!

Richard
K7DLX
ex: W7WWB

w5klb
05-17-2004, 05:05 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w7wwb @ May 17 2004,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Obligatory Snopes Link (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp)

73!

Richard
K7DLX
ex: W7WWB[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep, like I have beenposting: Boycotts DON'T WORK!

Conserving fuel WILL work-EVERY DAY!

Thanks Richard for the link. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KM5FL
05-17-2004, 05:07 PM
I already did my part. I didn't buy any gasoline the entire month of April.. A tank of gas takes me over 600 miles and lasts me about 6 weeks.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif


KM5FL

K3UD
05-17-2004, 05:18 PM
Lets have the government enforce it one day a week....OOPS... they already tried that in 1974... Actually there were 4 days out of the week when you could not buy gas. Anyone remember the gasless Sundays and the odd/even license plate numbers which dictated on that days of the week you could buy gas?

73
George
K3UD

WA5KRP
05-17-2004, 05:22 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W4TEY @ May 17 2004,07:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Have any of you heard of a boycott on gas this Wed.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sounds like sour grapes.


Caesar Chavez

W4TEY
05-17-2004, 05:31 PM
WA5KRP,No, sour grapes would require a boycott on French wine. HMMMMM not a bad idea. Thanks W7WWB for the link. Another internet myth demystified! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

K9STH
05-17-2004, 05:31 PM
The last time oil hit over $40 a barrel the cost of a gallon of gasoline was less than 80 cents a gallon! Would someone tell me why the almost 3 times the price today!

Something doesn't &quot;sound&quot; right here!

Glen, K9STH

KG4CGC
05-17-2004, 05:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ May 17 2004,06:31)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The last time oil hit over $40 a barrel the cost of a gallon of gasoline was less than 80 cents a gallon! #Would someone tell me why the almost 3 times the price today!

Something doesn't &quot;sound&quot; right here!

Glen, K9STH[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Glen I would have to say off the top of my head that it is higher taxes and everyone is making a larger profit at every step of the process from barrel to pump.
KG4CGC

W3MIV
05-17-2004, 05:43 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K3UD @ May 17 2004,13:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Lets have the government enforce it one day a week....OOPS... they already tried that in 1974... Actually there were 4 days out of the week when you could not buy gas. Anyone remember the gasless Sundays and the odd/even license plate numbers which dictated on that days of the week you could buy gas?

73
George
K3UD[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Not only do I remember it, but at that time I owned a Plymouth with a big V8 that a tank that would only take ten or eleven gallons. Sitting in a gas line one morning, I was had must moved through an interesectin when the light changed behind me. The line moved, and I moved up, and before the light changed again, some innocent woman turned into the line just behind me and we all moved up again. The light changed and the car behind her came across the intersection and stopped. The driver got out and began berating this woman with the most abusive language imaginable about &quot;jumping in line in front of him.&quot;

Two or three guys in the line got out and tried to calm this guy down without success. He continued ranting as he went back to his car and got a ball-peen hammer (looked like a 32-ouncer to me) and methodically began breaking out every one of this woman's lights. She wailing and screaming; he yelling and cussing.

Cop finally arrived and had to subdue this guy at gun point. All of us were so amazed and transfixed that the line in front of me went all the way to the filling station and people started getting impatient and honking at me because others (obviously far smater than I) were now going around me to get in the front of the line.

Took the cops to solve the line dilemma and bring order to chaos.

Needless to say, I sold the car soon after (taking a beating and not giving a damn).

Just a glimpse of what may be in store.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

KD4LEI
05-17-2004, 05:53 PM
Which reminds me, I need to fill up today and that should take care of gas for the next week.

W3MIV
05-17-2004, 06:04 PM
Hoooooo, boy! I can't wait. Got three gallons stashed, just waiting to put 'em on eBay.

Yassureeeeee, man. Gonna buy me one of those IC-7800s.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

K3UD
05-17-2004, 07:08 PM
I was living around Philadelphia back then and there were reports of fights, gas line rage, and even a shooting or two. For those who never experienced it, those gas lines were incredible and when I tell young people about it today, they are uniformly incredulous, especially when I explain how the rationing system worked via odd and even numbered license plates linked to days of the week.

There were some ways around the rationing though. My wife (ex) had an odd last number on her plate and I had an even number on mine. By switching plates we could go to a gas station and get our $2.50 or $5.00 worth of gas (it seemed to vary by the week) every day of the week except for Sunday when only a large bribe by a group of people with the same interest to certain station owners would work.

Philadelphia has several large refineries and ports on the Delaware bay/and river area. I remember watching the oil tankers just sitting out in the bay their captains apparantly waiting for the ok to unload when crude hit a certain price per barrel.

I had a 50+ mile round trip to work and back and was driving a 69 Olds 88 with the 455 (at 8-11 MPG). Yes, the black market did pretty well around the Philadelphia for about 4 months until the price stablized at about .65 a gallon and all was right with the world.

This really played havoc with the car market. I remember classified ads where people would be trying to trade their guzzlers (even Cadillacs and Lincolns) for VWs and the like.
I knew of one guy who traded a problem plagued Austin America (probably the Yugo of its day but it got over 30mpg) for a Lincoln Mark III or IV. It was crazy.

73
George
K3UD

KC5SAS
05-17-2004, 07:29 PM
As if the price of gas wasnt bad enough already, the Baton Rouge area is making the switch to a reformulated gas which will raise the price between 8 and 15 cents a gallomn. This is due to a EPA mandate to enforce Claen Air standards. The problem is that expert have already said that the emissions which air monitors to recorded as being abouve the acceptible limits are not produced by cars. Every environmental expert who studied the situation pointed to the release of pollutants from the areas chemical plants and shipping activity on the Mississippi River. But the way the EPA has set up the Clean Air act we have no choice but to switch to the more expensive reformulated gas even though the experts say that it will have virtually no effect on the polution rate of our area. Area city and Parish(County) governments have begun the process of sueing the Federal government over this unfair burden but are given almost no chance of winning.

K4JSR
05-17-2004, 08:00 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w7wwb @ May 17 2004,09:32)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Obligatory Snopes Link (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/nogas.asp)

73!

Richard
K7DLX
ex: W7WWB[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Thanks, Richard! I tried to tell everyone that loud, hideous
eructation would do more good! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
But HEY! We are Americans, our minds are made up and we will not be swayed with facts! Youse guys already have SY
rolling around in HAWmone overdrive! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
OUTGAS! OOOOPS! I mean OUT! HAW!
73 Cal K4JSR

KA8NCR
05-18-2004, 03:44 AM
If you're cheesed off about the energy costs, how about you actually pressure your Washington representation to come up with a plan to fund alternative fuel research? Or perhaps open up domestic oil production?

Of course, it's easier to pass urban legends around via email than participate in government.

WA5KRP
05-18-2004, 05:15 AM
I get an awful gut feeling when reading threads like this one. It doesn't take John Maynard Keynes to figure out the crippling economic effects of a strike against a U.S. refinery - take out three or four.............never mind. I don't want the FBI to swoop down. I'M ON OUR SIDE, GUYS!

WTF doesn't Bush tell the tree huggers where to go, promote the construction of new refineries (none built in in over 20 years), provide tax incentives, and indemnify the operators from idiot lawsuits?

BTW, open up ANWR.



WA5KRP
Wildcat, Texas

05-26-2004, 01:06 AM
Do not forget to write your anti-BPL letters,
encourage new amateur radio participation and generally be nice
to one another. That is all.