Giving up CB bashing for lent...

[kd5kfl]

I'm not Catholic, but I'm giving up CB bashing for lent.

Old saying: The best way to argue with a fool is to allow him to continue to speak. CB certainly speaks for itself.

I frequently hear "sophisticated" folk laughing at the rustics in the small town I live in. Making wise remarks about the shaggy unkempt flatland hillbillies. Utterly unaware that in this college town, half the rough looking folk they see have a Masters in computer science or PhD in astrophysics. That's how I feel about recent trends on this board. Like I'm one of the sophisticated city folk.

Seems to me, if Cbers are a bunch of ignorant banjo picking sister...uh, Kickers, we are making sport of retarded people. I'll keep my opinion to myself.

So, may favorite saying will be my guide to deportment, for a while:

Intelligent people talk about ideas.
Average people talk about things.
Stupid people talk about people.

[KC7ATO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5kfl @ April 09 2004,10:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Intelligent people talk about ideas.
Average people talk about things.
Stupid people talk about people.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
&quot;Old Pharts/Farts&quot; just like to talk and talk and talk and do nothing! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5kfl @ April 09 2004,10:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not Catholic, but I'm giving up CB bashing for lent.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Bless you, my son.







Others, I am sure, will take up your cudgels!

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ...you sure this is not an 8 day late April Fool joke ??

[N0KLT]

I just gave up for Lent!!

[W5HTW]

Much easier to give up Lent

[K9STH]

But Lent is over this Sunday!

Not much of a sacrifice!

Glen, K9STH

[KC7ATO]

Can you use a &quot;Dustbuster&quot; to clean up after Lent? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif at least he did NOT put it off till tomorrow !!

[k5rna]

Hey don't be jealous of cb'ers and bash them.Give it a ittle more time until te 5 wpm code test is dropped and we will all be up their leval.Not much farther to go,if any.

[N1XHF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k5rna @ April 09 2004,19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey don't be jealous of cb'ers and bash them.Give it a ittle more time until te 5 wpm code test is dropped and we will all be up their leval.Not much farther to go,if any.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
huh......Or just maybe the written test? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KC7HDE]

Easy on the Banjo jokes will ya.






73
Norm T.

[k6pme]

HEY! Us born, bred and raised native &quot;mountain folk&quot; take very serious offense to harrassment from FLATLANDERS!

Criminies, A FLATLANDER is worse than the worse CB'er to the tenth power.......

Don't be comin' around Ol' Hangtown with that kind of talk. You will be arrested under the charge of &quot;Flatlander in town after dark&quot;! May God have mercy on your soul if you pull out a compass or GPS on a weekday. (we tolerate tourist's on the week-ends.....)

Ship 'em all back to the cities I say, Ya'all just be muckin' up our woods......me thinks the spotted owl is ready to come off the fire now. Dinner is served............

HAH!

Do I sound like SY yet? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[w2wp]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KG6QQL @ April 09 2004,15:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HEY! Us born, bred and raised native &quot;mountain folk&quot; take very serious offense to harrassment from FLATLANDERS![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I live in NJ right outside NYC and everything 1/2 mile west of me is flatlands! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KC7HDE]

Them owls aint so spotted once ya get the feathers all pulled off. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif






73
Norm T. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[k6pme]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC7HDE @ April 09 2004,20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Them owls aint so spotted once ya get the feathers all pulled off. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif






73
Norm T. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yup! They kinda look like the pheasant's we gotta go down to the flatlands to git. Ding Dong fish and fur cops don't know the difference once they been plucked. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif leep the 5 word per miute morse code requirement and start worrying about IMPORTANT things like B P L !!

[KB9YCO]

I gave up religion for lent, much easier.

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif praise the lord !!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N5RLR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k5rna @ April 09 2004,21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:green'>Hey don't be jealous of cb'ers and bash them.Give it a ittle more time until te 5 wpm code test is dropped and we will all be up their level. #Not much farther to go,if any.</span>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
<span style='color:blue'>Let's see here...[*rustle*rustle*crash*rustle*]...fishin' pole, barber pole, antenna pole, North Pole, South Pole, somebody who says he's a Pole...nope, no ten-foot pole. #Ain't touchin' this! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

*Burp!* http://www.flamebunker.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_belch.gif

That's my http://forum.goregasm.com/images/smilies/twocents.gif an' I'm stickin' to it! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif</span>

[ki4bgo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k5rna @ April 09 2004,21:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey don't be jealous of cb'ers and bash them.Give it a ittle more time until te 5 wpm code test is dropped and we will all be up their leval.Not much farther to go,if any.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Here we go again....Code or Die...CODE or DIE...CODE OR... it'll be SO quiet on here soon! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #(I will pass my 5wpm anyway, but I won't miss this no code/know code crap!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[KG4ZQZ]

- rest easy - Element 1 is here to stay, at least for nearly two years...

[KA9VQF]

I will be busy sunday an may not be able to post so I'll have to do it now and let it be post dated.

Comform or be cast out

KA9VQF
&lt;form subdivisions, I like Rush&gt;

[N5RLR]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ki4bgo @ April 10 2004,16:35)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"><span style='color:red'>http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Here we go again....Code or Die...CODE or DIE...CODE OR... it'll be SO quiet on here soon! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #(I will pass my 5wpm anyway, but I won't miss this no code/know code crap!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif</span>[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
<span style='color:blue'>No, it won't be quiet here soon. #If the Morse-testing requirement is dropped, then you'll see [on this forum and many others] and hear [on the air] the &quot;old pfharts&quot; wailing and bemoaning its demise.

Has anyone other than myself, thought of having a Morse Code endorsement for an existing license? #It could be a separate test, with differing levels [5-, 13-, 20-, 30-, 50WPM, etc.]. #This could be administered by VEs/VECs, with or without blessing from the FCC. #This would give those who learn/use CW something for which to hone their skills, and have proof of their profiency [such as a certificate]. #Which, could come in handy if trying to obtain a local operator-license in a country that requires Morse testing for their license exams [vacations, DXpeditions, anyone?].</span>

[K9STH]

RLR:

I wouldn't touch that with a 3.048 meter pole!

Glen, K9STH

[N0KLT]

I see Glen has been educating his donkey again http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Happy Easter or whatever


73

Gary NØKLT

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N1XHF @ April 09 2004,20:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k5rna @ April 09 2004,19:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Hey don't be jealous of cb'ers and bash them.Give it a ittle more time until te 5 wpm code test is dropped and we will all be up their leval.Not much farther to go,if any.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
huh......Or just maybe the written test? :p[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep when we are all CBers, (Coming soon to a ham band near you) then would CB bashing be self-abuse?

[K9STH]

KLT:

Nope! He has been educating me! Besides, my number 2 granddaughter loves horses and burros so she can keep me in educators.

Glen, K9STH

My question would be &quot;why bash them??&quot; How many HAMs are the result of a background in CB??? I know I am, &amp; I can name at least another 4-5 just on the repeater I frequent. Not ALL of them are bad - a lot of them just don't get taught courtesy, etc.
Actually, there is a better idea. Don't bash - CONVERT!! If they stand a chance of losing a radio license for some of their shenanigans, the worst ones might even learn to be civil. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[k5rna]

Hey.Think some of you missed what i was getting at.I was being facetious but still stuck to the facts.I was never into the code no code uproar.Some one ask about the written test and i repeat,what written test?Also back when the fcc engineers gave the test you had to send code with a straight key and the engineer lisented to see if you were sending at least 13 wpm readable code for the general.Wonder how that would work under todays system?And IMOP for the life of me i can't see how it can be called a written test now.Read some questions and answers then mark them down is not a test.All i was getting at was get off the cb kick.Why knock som one who is not much different?

[w5klb]

Ahh, I see we are still having a code/no code, and CB subjects posted.

I gave up my CB quite a while ago. Keeping the unit around for some spare parts if I need 'em.

Been studying on my upgrade. I think I will pass with no problems.

This former sailor from &quot;Native America&quot; wishes y'all a wonderful and peaceful Easter Holiday.

Keep the Troops in your prayers.

[K7KBN]

I gave up my New Year's resolution for Lent.

[bigdog]

I keep a &quot; CB &quot; around just to see what the other side ( the dark side ) has to say once in a while.
I have noticed that nothing good has come of this as of yet.
So far just a bunch of foul mouthed kids and older adults with a chip on their shoulders for I have not figered out yet why.
Bashing &quot; CB &quot; is a god given rite in my mind.



out http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

[bigdog]

JUST LIKE GAY MARRIAGE...............oooooops! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KA9VQF]

Hey big dawg you wouldn’t be SY using a pseudonym would you?
KA9VQF

[bigdog]

I am going to lay down and die now and maybe this larg size 14 foot will discharge from my mouth in good time and alow me to be more polite.

Sorry if I have offended any one.


73

[KA9VQF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (bigdog @ April 11 2004,01:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Sorry if I have offended any one.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Likewise
KA9VQF

[W3MIV]

[sfx: loud bell]

OK, fellers, Lent's over. Y'all can start up on the CBers again.

Let's party!!

[N8YV]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5kfl @ April 09 2004,12:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm not Catholic, but I'm giving up CB bashing for lent.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why not do us all a favor, and give up CB bashing permanently?

Few topics on this website are as unproductive and pointless.

[W3MIV]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N8YV @ April 11 2004,05:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Why not do us all a favor, and give up CB bashing permanently?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
OK, suggest something else that is more fun to bash?

Bashers, after all is said and done, need a bashee. I vote for CBers, because removing them from the bashers' sights might permit them to refocus their spleen on white-haired, Caucasian males of age 61, and I am far too sensitive to withstand the abuse.

So, puleeeeeze, let sleeping dogs lie!

[N8CPA]

Wouldn't you just love to see a note of gratitude from Charlie Chickenbander right now?

I certainly would. Gosh, I miss Steve [Heavy SY!]

[K9STH]

SY wasn't banned! He just objected to cleaning up his language at times.

Glen, K9STH

[KA9VQF]

Yeah, its kinda funny what with all his highly educated ranting about how the block headed chicken banders needed to conform or be cast out, then couldn’t allow himself to be compromised in his own blockheadedness. Makes ya wonder.

[KB1GYQ]

Hey if we keep taunting him, we might get him to come back http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif It's a linquistical challange to slam someone without making personal attackes or using foul language - are ya up to the challange SY?

R u 10-7 good buddie, or did the candyman say ur 10-30? Is ur footwarmer broke, cause we got no copy on ya! Sure hope you ain't 10-34. We're 10-12 out here, so keep it clean. Come on strawberry yogurt. U got ur ears on?

[w4rot]

SY is no blockhead. I doubt to many blockheads get published in QST. So what...the mods fired a warning shot...that is their job..SY gave you his POV. I'm doubt too many of those in DaveMade 10-4 land could walk that walk.
I'm sure if he does come back, it'll be one bitchin' post and those little hairs on your neck will salute.
Sorry about the female dog refererence, but I had no other alternative, IMHO.
w4rot

[KA9VQF]

Seems to me, when you make a stance and continually demand that others around you modify and change their ways but won’t do it yourself,….you’re a blockhead. Perhaps there is a better word for it but I don’t know it.

I don’t mean to demean Steve’s intelligence, education, or personal ability in anyway.
I just don’t understand how you can tell people to change and conform then refuse to do it yourself.

I agree in principal with a lot of his arguments, just not some of his actions. #
Granted I was a and still am to an extent a C.B.’er. I became a ham to get away from the bucket headed ones that were ruining the hobby. There were several C.B. types in our area that also became hams to get away from the Sesame Street attitude. It was ‘Us’ against ‘Them’ in the late ’60’s. In the ’70’s it became much worse after the FCC decided to let it be deregulated.

'Uncle Charley' paid a visit to my 10-20 several years ago because several of the people in my town sent them a petition. He found my radio in compliance with the rules and had been monitoring in the area for over a week and seemed to think that I was using proper operating protocols and etiquette. I was one of the few that bothered to use my call sign.

Several years later I tried to get some of the ‘new’ C.B.’ers in town to quit using their linear amplifiers. The FCC said they no longer had field agents for the 11m band.
I sincerely think that if the FCC had taken a proactive stand then we would never have had the problems with the disgusting C.B. types. All it would have taken would have been the confiscating of a few radios I think.

Well that’s enough for this ignorant uninformed rant I guess.

Being ignorant I don't know what IMHO is so please tell me. It took me a month to finally ask whay LOL ment. {I'm really a bit shy}

Back to you.

[w4rot]

VQF,
Yo dood..You write pretty good. We're just HB's, all with OP's trying to HF with what we have. I hate when an OF get's HMed caused by an OP. OP's form and that's that. We all are JT2HF and PBTR. You done good and a post is a post. Wait til you start playin with CW and there will be a gazillion ABB to RMBR, but hang in there and keep ROTFL...

***Legend***
HB..Home Boy
OP..Opinion
HF...Have Fun
HM...Hammer
OF...Old Flatulance
JT2HF...Just trying to have fun (but could be a DX station)
PBTR...Playing by the rules
CW..Continuous wave
ABB..Abbreviation
RMBR...Remember
ROTFL...Rolling on the flooring laughing
IMHO...In My Humble Opinion.
B2U..Back to you or Best to you which ever works.
***This is not an official list***

I'm out..getting a bit dizzy here.
EY..Enjoy yourself et.al.,
w4rot

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KA9VQF @ April 11 2004,14:01)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I became a ham to get away from the bucket headed ones that were ruining the hobby. There were several C.B. types in our area that also became hams to get away from the Sesame Street attitude. It was ‘Us’ against ‘Them’ in the late ’60’s. In the ’70’s it became much worse after the FCC decided to let it be deregulated.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


And where do the hams go to get away from the CBization of ham radio?

And I didn't know there was an X-rated Sesame Street ...

Actually the above comments are facetious ... BUT ... One of the things in nature we note is escaping from an environment, in this case CB, is not easy, if you take it with you. I recall my young daughter always thinking she would do better in a different school, as she would not have the problems she had. But when we moved, she took her problems with her, and eventually dropped out of school entirely. (Later, as an adult, she was fortunate to get a GED and a good job, but that doesn't normally happen.) Same with the influx of illegal aliens to our nation. They don't escape; they just bring it with them, recreating the very environment they are running from where they are running to.

As the CBers enter ham radio, they bring at least some of their habits, styles and attitudes with them. It is inevitable. Consequently the face of ham radio changes to become more like what they wanted to leave behind. Today ham radio is probably populated mostly by either ex-CBers or those who are currently participating in CB or even Freebanding. And that carries over. Not all of it, or course. We are fortunate we don't yet have the level of profanity that exists on the CB channels. We don't yet have the level of deliberate interference that exists on 27 MHZ.

But note the word &quot;yet.&quot; It IS growing, and has been for more than a decade. In fact, it can be traced back to the late 1980s. Consequently today's Old Timers are often those who migrated from CB after the VE program went into effect and the FCC stopped doing examinations. The &quot;sound&quot; of the ham bands changed after that. And it continues to change now. Of course, part of the problems have nothing to do with CB, but are simply caused by increased ham population. (More warm bodies, Mom.)

It will change more, even if no restructuring takes place, and certainly some will, with perhaps dramatic changes in the very near future. Again the sound will change, and again there will be those looking for an escape. For many of us, the move to CW (lots of us have long been there) will be the last frontier. I think, though, eventually a lot of today's hams will leave the hobby as it accelerates in its changes. They will again see something new, and there is nothing new on the horizon to replace it.

Only the setting sun.

Enjoy
Ed

[W3MIV]

HTW:
Is there any area of life or society that does not proceed along the same basic path? Change in never easy and always undesired by the group who, for whatever reason, noble or ignoble, is resisting the change.

Our whole society has changed radically in the 61 years I have trod the sod, and most of those changes have been, in my view, undesirable. May as well try to hold back the tide as cling to the past. However better it may have been, in reality or in memory.

[w6ez]

I was just looking back 90 days to see what was being discussed.

Here is a thread about giving up CB bashing, but it really turned into a bash fest.

Back on the current threads, July 10, there is yet another thread about CBers. In between, there are MANY CB threads. (I didn't check back over 90 days but I'll bet there are a lot more.)

For a radio operation type that some of us place ourselves in such a supposedly superior position over we sure spend a lot of time talking about them.

I don't get it.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 10 2004,11:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For a radio operation type that some of us place ourselves in such a supposedly superior position over we sure spend a lot of time talking about them.

I don't get it.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
In order to think yourself &quot;superior,&quot; there needs to be an &quot;inferior&quot; to look down upon. For many of these &quot;superior beings,&quot; that's CBers.

Me, I know enough to know that I don't know everything yet. I also realize that I am not &quot;superior&quot; just because I am an Extra. I just spent the time and effort to learn the material and pass the test. Anyone with a reasonable amount of brain power can do it, if they are willing to study... even a CBer.

[KB1GYQ]

How did this thing get resurrected?

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1GYQ @ July 10 2004,17:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How did this thing get resurrected?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
No idea. But since Lent is over (and I don't do dat anyway) -- time to resume! GO GET 'EM!

ed

Someone 'lent' this thread a new life and restarted it!

As Marc Antony said, on the day that Caeser was murdered in the Senate.

'Friends, Romans, Countrymen! lent me your ears! I come to bury Caeser not to praise him!'

A sign on a Catholic Church.. 'House for Lent, inquire within'

What kind of soup do you eat on that day? 'Lent'il soup, of course!

What do they call that piece of would above the doorway in a good Catholic's home? Why the 'Lent'il, of course!

BADDA BING!

[ai4ep]

...and now a moment of silence.









ok now back to what you were doing, but wash your hands first.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ July 12 2004,12:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok now back to what you were doing, but wash your hands first.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I was washing my hands when you interrupted with your moment of silence!

[N8CPA]

Doesn't the Lenten season end with a Resurrection? So has this thread. Please let us know if anyone experiences an Epiphany or Pentecost.

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N8CPA @ July 12 2004,13:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Doesn't the Lenten season end with a Resurrection? #So has this thread. #Please let us know if anyone experiences an Epiphany or Pentecost.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Epiphany? Pentecost? In this group?

You're more likely to see Judas revered as a saint. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif oh when the saints go marchin in
when the saints go marchin in


i forgot the other lines...I DO know all the words to FREE BIRD and SWEET HOME ALABAMA...yea yea yea

[N8CPA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ai4ep @ July 12 2004,17:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif oh when the saints go marchin in
# # # # #when the saints go marchin in


i forgot the other lines...I DO know all the words to FREE BIRD and SWEET HOME ALABAMA...yea yea yea[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
...Oh, Lord I want to be int that number
When the Saints go marchin' in.

Oh when that horn begins to blow,
Oh when that horn begins to blow.
Oh Lord I want to be in that number...

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You're more likely to see Judas revered as a saint.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Now let's not be too hard on Judas.
He was just doing what he was supposed to do to make the whole thing work.

(Hacha! Still on page one.)

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 14 2004,11:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You're more likely to see Judas revered as a saint.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Now let's not be too hard on Judas.
He was just doing what he was supposed to do to make the whole thing work.

(Hacha! Still on page one.)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now, you don't want to get me started on the theological concept of free will, do ya?

Besides, how many babies do you know of named Judas? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K3FT @ July 12 2004,11:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Someone 'lent' this thread a new life and restarted it!

As Marc Antony said, on the day that Caeser was murdered in the Senate.

'Friends, Romans, Countrymen! lent me your ears! I come to bury Caeser not to praise him!'

A sign on a Catholic Church.. 'House for Lent, inquire within'

What kind of soup do you eat on that day? 'Lent'il soup, of course!

What do they call that piece of would above the doorway in a good Catholic's home? Why the 'Lent'il, of course!

BADDA BING![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Badda Bing? Isn't that the name of the bar Tony Soprano owns/runs in The Sopranos?

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N7AAO @ July 13 2004,12:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 14 2004,11:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You're more likely to see Judas revered as a saint.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Now let's not be too hard on Judas.
He was just doing what he was supposed to do to make the whole thing work.

(Hacha! Still on page one.)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now, you don't want to get me started on the theological concept of free will, do ya?

Besides, how many babies do you know of named Judas? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
But if Judas hadn't done his thing...

[K7KBN]

With the increasing popularity of Biblical names for children, I can't help wondering about people and their reactions when I proudly introduce my new son, Satan.

[w6ez]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif4--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k7kbn @ July 13 2004,14http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif4)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">With the increasing popularity of Biblical names for children, I can't help wondering about people and their reactions when I proudly introduce my new son, Satan.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I have not come across a child named satan.

Now in my younger years, I can remember being called the spawn of....

[N8CPA]

All the years I spent in Catholic schools, I never once had a classmate named Luther. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N8CPA @ July 15 2004,06:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All the years I spent in Catholic schools, I never once had a classmate named Luther. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Are ya sure &quot;Lou&quot; wasn't short for &quot;Luther&quot;? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[N8CPA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N7AAO @ July 15 2004,09:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif2--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N8CPA @ July 15 2004,06http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif2)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">All the years I spent in Catholic schools, I never once had a classmate named Luther. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Are ya sure &quot;Lou&quot; wasn't short for &quot;Luther&quot;? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Nope! Given the nature of our Catholic indoctrination in those days--the &quot;eternal&quot; law of catholicism that all others go to hell--such a Lou would have ended up in the loo, or down the loo. In either case, his hair would always be wet. Every Lou identified him/herself as Louis or Louise.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, meanwile back in the jungle.......

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.... #The Bard

To get back to the original post: #I am an old-timey, 1965 CB'er. #I started out as a SWL, tried to learn code, built different antennas, &quot;kits&quot;, and experimented with circuits. #My first &quot;transmitter&quot; was a 100mw, AM, Broadcast-band rig. #Later, I bought a KnightKit C-11 CB tranceiver kit and put it together. #One channel xtal-controlled transmit and a very broad, Super-regenerative reciever. #Despite a few wiring errors, they were corrected and the thing work! #LOL!

There were only twenty-five of us in Shreveport, LA. at the time, in a city of 150,000 folks. #It was used for business purposes and if you could help relay a message to someone else's Unit 5, then you helped out. #In turn, if you needed help you got it as well. #Most of us became like a family after 5 PM. #We even had get-together's like picnics and such on certain weekends. #We visited each others homes and business's. #Yes, there were a couple of red-necked, dirt clods, but we just ignored their remarks. #Times they were agood.

As more folks joined our ranks in S'port. #We developed close ties with those as well and still Life was good.

Then, the Explosion began and the 18-wheelers and Good Buddies began to invade us with all the trash talk. #Arguements broke out, # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif #Folks met up with other folks, threats, violence, and fights broke out. #Some were seriously injured and hospitalized. #People demanded you get off #their frequency (like 75 meters today... #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ) #If someone didn't like you, they pinned your coax and your transistor rig went up in smoke. #Needless to say, THAT is when I seriously began LQ^QKing at getting my ham ticket. #That was 1980.

I was finally licenced as KA5LQJ and got my 'ticket' in the mail on 1 April, 1981....An omen? # LOL!

I'm now a &quot;General&quot; class, and work 75 meter AM, 40 meter AM and other bands. #I'm appalled at the discourtsey, profanity, and racial remarks being made over-the-air, like no young child or Lady is listening. #Some folks have adopted the policy of getting right below or above another on-going conversation and crank up, deliberately interfering with the on-going QSO. #Yeah, you know who you are. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Sure, CB isn't perfect now or has been for a long time, but as our ham ranks thin with old-time, gentleman, Hams becoming S/K's, it makes me sad #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #to think of how ham radio has dropped to the Red-neck CB'er's or Internet chatrooms mentallity .

How about we at least think before we speak, key-up, and clean up our operating practices?

Now, if you want to e-maul (flame) me, then go right ahead. # All flames will be turned over to the proper authorities and legal council. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Respectfully submitted,
73,

Buck/K5MKE

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K5MKE @ July 15 2004,08:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Meanwhile, back at the ranch, meanwile back in the jungle.......

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.... The Bard

To get back to the original post: I am an old-timey, 1965 CB'er. I started out as a SWL, tried to learn code, built different antennas, &quot;kits&quot;, and experimented with circuits. My first &quot;transmitter&quot; was a 100mw, AM, Broadcast-band rig. Later, I bought a KnightKit C-11 CB tranceiver kit and put it together. One channel xtal-controlled transmit and a very broad, Super-regenerative reciever. Despite a few wiring errors, they were corrected and the thing work! LOL!

There were only twenty-five of us in Shreveport, LA. at the time, in a city of 150,000 folks. It was used for business purposes and if you could help relay a message to someone else's Unit 5, then you helped out. In turn, if you needed help you got it as well. Most of us became like a family after 5 PM. We even had get-together's like picnics and such on certain weekends. We visited each others homes and business's. Yes, there were a couple of red-necked, dirt clods, but we just ignored their remarks. Times they were agood.

As more folks joined our ranks in S'port. We developed close ties with those as well and still Life was good.

Then, the Explosion began and the 18-wheelers and Good Buddies began to invade us with all the trash talk. Arguements broke out, <!--emo&amp;<!--emo&amp;http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Folks met up with other folks, threats, violence, and fights broke out. Some were seriously injured and hospitalized. People demanded you get off their frequency (like 75 meters today... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ) If someone didn't like you, they pinned your coax and your transistor rig went up in smoke. Needless to say, THAT is when I seriously began LQ^QKing at getting my ham ticket. That was 1980.

I was finally licenced as KA5LQJ and got my 'ticket' in the mail on 1 April, 1981....An omen? LOL!

I'm now a &quot;General&quot; class, and work 75 meter AM, 40 meter AM and other bands. I'm appalled at the discourtsey, profanity, and racial remarks being made over-the-air, like no young child or Lady is listening. Some folks have adopted the policy of getting right below or above another on-going conversation and crank up, deliberately interfering with the on-going QSO. Yeah, you know who you are. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Sure, CB isn't perfect now or has been for a long time, but as our ham ranks thin with old-time, gentleman, Hams becoming S/K's, it makes me sad http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif to think of how ham radio has dropped to the Red-neck CB'er's or Internet chatrooms mentallity .

How about we at least think before we speak, key-up, and clean up our operating practices?

Now, if you want to e-maul (flame) me, then go right ahead. All flames will be turned over to the proper authorities and legal council. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Respectfully submitted,
73,

Buck/K5MKE[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Buck,

Well said, I could not have done better myself.

My first introduction to radio was also CB. I have found CBers to be far more helpful than some hams, as well.

In every group there are good people, and there are jerks. This is true of CBers, and it is true of hams (if you don't believe there are jerks among hams, just read some of these threads... you'll see a number of them).

Is it right to call all hams jerks? Nope. It is no more right to call all CBers jerks based on the actions of a few.

How many of you have ever listened to real CB conversations? I mean the ones that happen daily on the 40 legal channels? Even for an hour or two? Probably not one in ten of you have. And yet you sit there and presume to pass judgement on every single person that's ever picked up a CB mic? I think the Bard of Avon has a quote that fits that sort of thing quite aptly:
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">it is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
(Macbeth, Act V, Scene V).

--David, N7AAO

For decades, CB users have been junior hams who would be hams if it weren't for having to take a test. And that's the nicest thing I can think of to say about them, so I'll stop talking now.

-LB-

[N7AAO]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (4Q2OM @ July 15 2004,13:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">For decades, CB users have been junior hams who would be hams if it weren't for having to take a test. And that's the nicest thing I can think of to say about them, so I'll stop talking now.

-LB-[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh, so now I am a junior ham? Gee, I'd better send this Extra class license back to Gettysburg, and go looking in Cracker Jack boxes for my Junior Ham License.

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K5MKE @ July 14 2004,09:08)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Meanwhile, back at the ranch, meanwile back in the jungle.......

Me thinks thou doth protest too much.... The Bard

To get back to the original post: I am an old-timey, 1965 CB'er. I started out as a SWL, tried to learn code, built different antennas, &quot;kits&quot;, and experimented with circuits. My first &quot;transmitter&quot; was a 100mw, AM, Broadcast-band rig. Later, I bought a KnightKit C-11 CB tranceiver kit and put it together. One channel xtal-controlled transmit and a very broad, Super-regenerative reciever. Despite a few wiring errors, they were corrected and the thing work! LOL!

There were only twenty-five of us in Shreveport, LA. at the time, in a city of 150,000 folks. It was used for business purposes and if you could help relay a message to someone else's Unit 5, then you helped out. In turn, if you needed help you got it as well. Most of us became like a family after 5 PM. We even had get-together's like picnics and such on certain weekends. We visited each others homes and business's. Yes, there were a couple of red-necked, dirt clods, but we just ignored their remarks. Times they were agood.

As more folks joined our ranks in S'port. We developed close ties with those as well and still Life was good.

Then, the Explosion began and the 18-wheelers and Good Buddies began to invade us with all the trash talk. Arguements broke out, http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif Folks met up with other folks, threats, violence, and fights broke out. Some were seriously injured and hospitalized. People demanded you get off their frequency (like 75 meters today... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ) If someone didn't like you, they pinned your coax and your transistor rig went up in smoke. Needless to say, THAT is when I seriously began LQ^QKing at getting my ham ticket. That was 1980.

I was finally licenced as KA5LQJ and got my 'ticket' in the mail on 1 April, 1981....An omen? LOL!

I'm now a &quot;General&quot; class, and work 75 meter AM, 40 meter AM and other bands. I'm appalled at the discourtsey, profanity, and racial remarks being made over-the-air, like no young child or Lady is listening. Some folks have adopted the policy of getting right below or above another on-going conversation and crank up, deliberately interfering with the on-going QSO. Yeah, you know who you are. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Sure, CB isn't perfect now or has been for a long time, but as our ham ranks thin with old-time, gentleman, Hams becoming S/K's, it makes me sad http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif to think of how ham radio has dropped to the Red-neck CB'er's or Internet chatrooms mentallity .

How about we at least think before we speak, key-up, and clean up our operating practices?

Now, if you want to e-maul (flame) me, then go right ahead. All flames will be turned over to the proper authorities and legal council. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Respectfully submitted,
73,

Buck/K5MKE[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You are right on point.

[w6ez]

ok, sorry to keep this thread alive, but have any of you seen this webpage?

BIG radios (http://www.bigradios.com/avis/)

Gee, if this is for real these guys are insane!

[W5HTW]

Wonder how often their kids eat? And what? Left over alternator belts?

Anyway, I'm glad Lent is over and we can return to some good ol' fashioned bashin'

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w6ez @ July 20 2004,17:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">ok, sorry to keep this thread alive, but have any of you seen this webpage?

BIG radios (http://www.bigradios.com/avis/)

Gee, if this is for real these guys are insane![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Why not make friends.... perhaps they could &quot;operate&quot; on a schedule so as not to interfere too much ( well no more than a contest does http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ) with amateur radio; but have them take out BPL completely. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w5lda]

What do you guys get out of bashing cb?Is it fun?Does it give you a better sex life?Does it make your kahonies
seem bigger?I was a cb'er for 30 yrs and for the most part,people are not the way you seem to think,although there are the bad apples in every walk of life.Don't beleive me?Just tune to 75meters and see for yourself.
I have worked the world on 11 meters and had a great time doing it.But wanted to see what the other side was all about,and frankly,i'm not too impressed with some of you guys.Don't get me wrong,i have made some good friends since i got my ticket,but i wont go back to 11 meters and lose what i,ve got

Larry kd5vsg

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5HTW @ July 19 2004,16:58)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Wonder how often their kids eat? And what? Left over alternator belts?

Anyway, I'm glad Lent is over and we can return to some good ol' fashioned bashin'[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well I'm not sure if I am doing any real bashing but that Big radios webpage was amazing.

The idea of a 454 on a bottle to pull the load of the alternators when the guys keys down is just mind blowing.

[W5HTW]

Get your super, king size Ranger Ham-CB right here:

QTH.COM, classifieds, under HF Radios. (July 21) An almost new 12-10 meter Ranger 29 something or other. Mint. Oh, yes, it has been &quot;tuned and peaked&quot; and it can include a roger-beeper microphone. Mint? Tuned and peaked? And plumb full of them thar roger beeps just dying to be released.

I note the fella selling it has no call sign.

Ed

[kg4ivt]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5HTW @ July 21 2004,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Get your super, king size Ranger Ham-CB right here:

QTH.COM, classifieds, under HF Radios. #(July 21) An almost new 12-10 meter Ranger 29 something or other. #Mint. #Oh, yes, it has been &quot;tuned and peaked&quot; and it can include a roger-beeper microphone. #Mint? #Tuned and peaked? #And plumb full of them thar roger beeps just dying to be released. #

I note the fella selling it has no call sign. #

Ed[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Funny. #Most Ranger RCI-29*0's have a roger beep built in, or at least they did last time I looked at them. #Multitone ETS's are cool though, if done tastefully......or thru a rig's PA at nearby pedestrians.

I am TIRED Of CB bashing! Why have you guys got it 'in' for the Navy??!!

I mean.. the Construction Battalion (CB) guys are the ones who built the airfields, facilities,and the like so our guys can do what they gotta do!

So NO MORE Construction Battalion (CB) Bashing or they'll come over to YOUR house and do a '12 hour removal/renovation' job!

TAIN FOUR????!!

PIMNGGGGGG!

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4ivt @ July 20 2004,16:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5HTW @ July 21 2004,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Get your super, king size Ranger Ham-CB right here:

QTH.COM, classifieds, under HF Radios. (July 21) An almost new 12-10 meter Ranger 29 something or other. Mint. Oh, yes, it has been &quot;tuned and peaked&quot; and it can include a roger-beeper microphone. Mint? Tuned and peaked? And plumb full of them thar roger beeps just dying to be released.

I note the fella selling it has no call sign.

Ed[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Funny. Most Ranger RCI-29*0's have a roger beep built in, or at least they did last time I looked at them. Multitone ETS's are cool though, if done tastefully......or thru a rig's PA at nearby pedestrians.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I have one of those early 2950s for 10 meters.
I had to do a LOT of work on the noise blanker
to get it quiet enough to use in my mobil set up.
I also had to get in on frequency as it was off there as well.
It didn't look very good on the scope with a two tone input so I had to adjust the alc as well to get it to at least look like it wouldn't splatter. I always got good audio reports so I guess it was ok after I fixed it. If they are all like the one I have I wouldn't want to use one right out of the box.
HRO used to sell them but I don't know if they still do.
I think the new ones do 10 and 12 meters and there is a 6 meter version as well.

I used to communte 200 miles a day and it was fun for working JAs in the afternoon along with 10 meter repeaters when the band was running hot.

I understand they are hot items with the CB crowd.
They aren't &quot;chanelized&quot; so I guess some CBers know how to set the frequencies once they have been modified.

It is still in the car, but I don't commute anymore so I haven't used it in a long time.

Not my idea of a real good radio, but cheap and not
too big of a loss if someone were to steal it.

Are there really still people on CB? I remember it was popular for about six months in the 1970's, thanks to a popular song and a movie or two.

I would have thought that with entry level Amateur licenses becoming so easy to obtain, most all of the CB operators would have migrated to the ham bands. I see that many of them are here in this forum. I assumed CB would be a ghost town by now.

[w6ez]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">
I would have thought that with entry level Amateur licenses becoming so easy to obtain, most all of the CB operators would have migrated to the ham bands.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Ahhhooogah!
Ahhoooogah!

Fish on!