A Tech's Thoughts?

[KB1JHJ]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif I for one was & still am a Technician class amateur that was studing to become a General. I had bought the book for the General class studies, and the computer CD disk to study for code(Money For Nothing?). I am disabled now and unable to work the way I use to. So this hobby has been a great outlet for me. I had set goals for myself, and had lots of plans for moving up as time went by. But now all that seems to be gone,(If This Passes)! I know there are other Tech's out there that feel the same way. I just don't want to be looked down upon over something I had no control over, Thanks to the ARRL! I guess I got into the hobby at a bad time. There sure is a big storm a brewing! Note: I'll use the study aids no matter if it counts or not! Just to better myself at this great hobby! I know there are a lot of other Tech's out there that will do the same. So please don't let the ARRL's plan make you think we all want something for nothing. We don't! 73 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

[n0ov]

You never throw your time away by learning a new skill.

Study for General, pass the code and get on the air. You'll be able to make contacts and feel the satisfaction of learning something that is a skill not too many folks have any more.

Good luck!

Keep studying for what you want to get out of amateur radio. Don't worry too much about this proposal; it may be a long time before we see any changes, and this proposal is just that-- it's far from a done deal and there will probably be some changes to it along the way. Good luck, don't worry and have fun.

[kg4kww]

Don't Worry Be Happy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif Look at it this way, you can still study the General Book and get something out of it.
Don't be intimidated by the Generals and the Extra class folks comments. It's called sour grapes. Code is out dated and not as widely used as some would have you believe.

Have you tried 2 meter ssb or 6 meter ssb?

you can make some great contacts on these bands
both local and dx. Yes, it's not as easy as HF to make
a DX contact, that's because to work UHF/VHF DX takes some skill. But, continue to study your General book and give VHF SSB a shot. Who knows you might like it.

Smile Be Happy, Your ship has finally come in and maybe
your pier won't collapse(that's to say the rule change will pass). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73

[K3STX]

JHJ,

Great attitute. And remember, there are very few who will displace their anger towards YOU.

Now for KWW, that might be a different story. You might consider looking before leaping. If you were my kid I would give you a "time-out".

paul http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K2ACX]

Well, there's no reason to stop now! As others have pointed out, it will be a while before the FCC acts on the proposal- assuming they agree to it at all.

So why wait? By the time they get around to making their decisions, you'll already be ordering your second logbook!

Best of luck,
Brian K2ACX

[N8CPA]

Congratulations, more appropriately, thank you for your commitment to amateur radio. Some licensees don't even recognize that what makes this radio service currently worthwhile is its historical disciplines. Those that do, follow the same course as you.

Steve

[W0LC]

Bobbie,

I applaud your efforts. Keep at it. Don't give up. Remember, there are few who actually "look" down on anyone in your situation, regardless of what some of the uninformed tell you.

It is truly unfortunate that a minority few who appear too lazy, unmotivated to go through the paces are making this situation what it is. I for one agree with what you say, regardless of what is posted, any assinine lists, etc. Go for it!

Let's meet on the air sometime. I am sure you will find the majority of ops very friendly out there. They may not agree with everything, on everything, but one thing is for sure, you and "them" are licensed operators!

73 and keep up the good work and don't hesitate to contact a local club if you need assistance in what you are doing. Many have programs to help those studying, regardless of disability, etc.

[W0LC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg4kww @ Jan. 23 2004,09:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Don't Worry Be Happy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #Look at it this way, you can still study the General Book and get something out of it.
Don't be intimidated by the Generals and the Extra class folks comments. It's called sour grapes. Code is out dated and not as widely used as some would have you believe.

Have you tried 2 meter ssb or 6 meter ssb?

you can make some great contacts on these bands
both local and dx. Yes, it's not as easy as HF to make
a DX contact, that's because to work UHF/VHF DX takes some skill. But, continue to study your General book and give VHF SSB a shot. Who knows you might like it.

Smile Be Happy, Your ship has finally come in and maybe
your pier won't collapse(that's to say the rule change will pass). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Laughing too hard at this post. Won't bother replying to those kinds of trolling comments. Hi

[K0RGR]

Yes, it will definitely be a while before anything happens on this. In fact, I recall that FCC had their own agenda for implementing changes due to the WARC conference, and that was something like 4th quarter of 2004. Assuming this falls into that category, they'll just leave us bleeding for another year. I hope they move much more quickly, but unless they elect to simply eliminate Element 1 entirely, I think it's unlikely. They've already got the needed proposals and comments to do that.

If anything changes, it probably will be the 'instant upgrades'. FCC might decide to keep both the Tech and Advanced licenses on the books and require them both to pass the higher grade tests in effect at the time. However, this is dependent on whether or not it can be handled within their computer system - they've made it clear before that they do not want to spend any money on reprogramming it, and that may be the real deciding factor in this. Keeping the Advanced without making any adjustments to their frequency priveleges will make this plan much more complicated than it deserves to be. The new 'top' license will be one with a code test and any technical test beyond General. It should probably be renamed. Hopefully, in the future, it will be as hard to earn as the Extra was back in the early 70's.

It shouldn't be too hard for them to just add the Novice priveleges to the Tech license and require element 3 for upgrade to General now, or the new General test when it is ready in the future. Frankly, either way is acceptable to me. I think ARRL is looking down the road in an effort to avoid creating yet another orphaned license class, in a comprehensive re-organization.

[kc7jty]

You can get a friend to test you for the 13 &amp; 20 wpm code speeds too you know. You wouldn't want to miss out on them either would you? Then you can really take a departure from the norm and learn (if you don't know anything about it now) radio electronics. Then when you get your General or higher ticket you'll be able to tell everyone of your additional accomplishments every time you sign. I'm sure no one will shed a tear for you then.

[KB1JHJ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wc5rr @ Jan. 23 2004,13:34)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Bobbie,

I applaud your efforts. #Keep at it. #Don't give up. #Remember, there are few who actually &quot;look&quot; down on anyone in your situation, regardless of what some of the uninformed tell you.

It is truly unfortunate that a minority few who appear too lazy, unmotivated to go through the paces are making this situation what it is. #I for one agree with what you say, regardless of what is posted, any assinine lists, etc. #Go for it! #

Let's meet on the air sometime. #I am sure you will find the majority of ops very friendly out there. #They may not agree with everything, on everything, but one thing is for sure, you and &quot;them&quot; are licensed operators!

73 and keep up the good work and don't hesitate to contact a local club if you need assistance in what you are doing. #Many have programs to help those studying, regardless of disability, etc.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
To Chris and all the others that have sent kind words of encouragement to continue with my studies, I say thank you. And I will do so. And yes I do belong to the local club. And they have been a big help to me. N1BUG is a good friend and owner of the local 2 meter repeter. He is there to answer any questions I may have. W1ALS has also been there as an Elmer for me, And WA1PBR put up my antennas because I physically can't do it. They didn't have to but they did. I guess the point I was trying to make is, I hope this ARRL thing doesn't tear the hobby apart. With all the Technicians as the fall guys for their mistake! I feel as many others ARRL is looking after their own welfare (Money), and not that of its (I am not one yet!)members. This is like a fraternity, and one I am proud to be part of. My baby daughter who is 13, also is looking at becoming an amateur soon. But I want her to approach it with respect for the proper way things should be done! Not with I'll cheet on the test Idea! Lets hope for the best in what ever may come. And lets all pull together to keep it going for another 100 years. Just one Tech's thoughts. 73 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KC0OFZ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I for one was &amp; still am a Technician class amateur that was studing to become a General. I had bought the book for the General class studies, and the computer CD disk to study for code(Money For Nothing?). I am disabled now and unable to work the way I use to. So this hobby has been a great outlet for me. I had set goals for myself, and had lots of plans for moving up as time went by. But now all that seems to be gone,(If This Passes)! I know there are other Tech's out there that feel the same way. I just don't want to be looked down upon over something I had no control over, Thanks to the ARRL! I guess I got into the hobby at a bad time. There sure is a big storm a brewing! Note: I'll use the study aids no matter if it counts or not! Just to better myself at this great hobby! I know there are a lot of other Tech's out there that will do the same. So please don't let the ARRL's plan make you think we all want something for nothing. We don't! 73 [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

This is the attitude that I like to see. I may come off as being anti tech in my writting some (most if you will) of the time. To techs such as yourself I offer my humble appologies for that message. I applaude your attitude about wanting to upgrade and am more than willing to help people that wish to learn. Keep up the good work and will look forward to talking to you on the air.
73

[KB1JHJ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0OFZ @ Jan. 23 2004,19:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> I for one was &amp; still am a Technician class amateur that was studing to become a General. I had bought the book for the General class studies, and the computer CD disk to study for code(Money For Nothing?). I am disabled now and unable to work the way I use to. So this hobby has been a great outlet for me. I had set goals for myself, and had lots of plans for moving up as time went by. But now all that seems to be gone,(If This Passes)! I know there are other Tech's out there that feel the same way. I just don't want to be looked down upon over something I had no control over, Thanks to the ARRL! I guess I got into the hobby at a bad time. There sure is a big storm a brewing! Note: I'll use the study aids no matter if it counts or not! Just to better myself at this great hobby! I know there are a lot of other Tech's out there that will do the same. So please don't let the ARRL's plan make you think we all want something for nothing. We don't! 73 #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

This is the attitude that I like to see. #I may come off as being anti tech in my writting some (most if you will) of the time. #To techs such as yourself I offer my humble appologies for that message. #I applaude your attitude about wanting to upgrade and am more than willing to help people that wish to learn. #Keep up the good work and will look forward to talking to you on the air.
73[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
To me no appology is needed. I can understand the anger. But The direction of that anger should be toward the powers that be. And not toward those that are trying to follow the teachings of those that made this hobby what it is today! I guess there may be some that want the free ticket. But for me its going to be like taking the wind right out of my sails. But I guess as I said before I'll keep plugging or pounding away! And maybe one day real soon I'll be on the HF, chewing the rag with you guys. 73

[KC0OFZ]

KB1JHJ
&quot;Directed to the powers that be&quot; is totally correct although they may be deaf. #Yes, you WILL pass soon and we WILL hear you on the air with your present &quot;go for it attitude&quot;. Good luck

73 #KC0OFZ http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[W1SK]

KB1JHJ,
Good to see another Mainer on here. I am a current general and felt like that current ARRL proposal is crap because not more then 2 months ago I passed the code and written general, and now it might not matter. I also felt like I wasted my time, but you know what? Thats B.S. because you never waste time when you are learning. I hope you feel the same.

73,
Joe

[KB1JHJ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB1KDY @ Jan. 24 2004,11:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KB1JHJ,
Good to see another Mainer on here. I am a current general and felt like that current ARRL proposal is crap because not more then 2 months ago I passed the code and written general, and now it might not matter. I also felt like I wasted my time, but you know what? Thats B.S. because you never waste time when you are learning. I hope you feel the same.

73,
Joe[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I think I have heard you on 147,000 repeter before, out of Lincoln? Anyway yes I do feel the let down. I don't like what the ARRL is doing. But guess what? They can't take away what I've already learned! And I plan on taking the General test before all this is passed. I still feel they are doing it for the bottom line, (MONEY). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
If you hear me on the air some day lets talk!
73 Bob

[w5klb]

KB1JHJ,

I'm studying for my upgrade to General also. I plan to take Element 1 also. Don't wait around for the &quot;powers that be&quot; to make up their minds on the licensing restructuring. It's been said before here that it might be some time before anything is done. Remember that &quot;Uncle Sugar&quot; takes his time on everything.

KWW,

Don't wait for your ship to come in. Swim out and meet it! I beleave you make your own luck. I also beleve that this is a service and a hobby of tradition. Let's all hope that there will always be new modes operation and new ideas. We need them! But let's never forget the traditions that some of the ol' timers, those that have gone before us, have set in place. They are what makes Amateur Radio a great place to be and I am extreamly greatful for that!

P.S. After I get my upgrade, I hope I get to work both of you! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[K0YNE]

Another way to accelerate in this hobby and electronics is to contact someone who can work with you from time to time. there are many &quot;old timers&quot; retired, with nothing better to do.
Many have an indepth experience in electronics, that will make learning a lot easier and faster. Use this forum to pose questions from time to time. There are many experts handing out advice for those who really need it. Good luck