Were Are All the Almers?

I have postd mesageas on this site befure adn was not greetd very. well.

I no I dont; use engish well but I was only lookng for help with my 60m amp. Well i neede an almnerwhere have all the almerns gone!

Will somone help me wit the 60mm amp problme.

Tubeman

[w3sy]

60m amp? 60mm amp? I give up. What problem are you having, dood? As long as we're not talking about a Chicken Band amp, I'll try to help.

I know English is difficult for you, so I will type s-l-o-w-l-y.

Over!

[K9STH]

First of all, the "Almers" are out on the street panhandling! "Elmers" is the term often used to mean those who help other amateur radio operators.

As for your 60 meter amplifier question: Use of such an amplifier is not legal! You are limited to no more than 50 watts peak output on the 60 meter band. Since the vast majority of amateur radio opeators do not condone illegal operation then I do not think that much help is going to be forthcomming!

If you happen to be in a country that allows more power on this band (there are a few other countries that do allow operation on the 60 meter band) then post your call sign. If it is legal to operate using more than 50 watts peak output from your country then I would suspect that you will get all the help that you require.

If you are not licensed, or if you are operating from the areas that are governed by United States regulations, then this information is not going to come forth! The 60 meter band is primarily a "test" set of frequencies that have been set up by the FCC to see if amateur radio operation is compatible with other services in the same frequency range. It wouldn't take much, like operating with illegal power, to make the FCC reconsider and eliminate the 60 meter band.

Glen, K9STH

[K9STH]

SY:

In his previous post he was trying to get help so that he can modify his linear amplifier to run at least 400 watts on the 60 meter band. Since this power level is illegal in the United States and posessions, no one was willing to give him information.

Glen, K9STH

[w3sy]

Hey Glen,

Ah. I see. Well we shall see if he posts a call sign.

Are there really commercially available 60 meter amps? Wonder if his is homebrew. If so, how should WE know how to modify it in the first place?

Seems fishy. Snff snff... Is someone wearing Essence of Troll cologne?

By the way, I was going to make a quip about "almers," but I thought I'd spread the Joy and let someone else take it.

Haw!

[w3bny]

Hey! I gots some 60m amps over here... oh yeah they are all USN xmtrs too!

Still trying to persuade the folks down here to let some of there spare HF stuff fall off the back of there truck (and into my truck! )

[AG3Y]

An amplifier might be legal on 60 meters , IF and I repeat IF, he is trying to bring a QRP SSB rig up to the alotted power on the band. #However, from the content of his posts, I am not sure if he fully understands all the legal implications of operation on that band. # Heck, I'm not even sure I understand all the legal implications of operation on that band!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I think we are going to see more of this as we see the bar on entrance into the hobby lowered further and further! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

73 from Jim AG3Y

[kkq8960]

man you guys never cease to amaze me. someone ask for help and automaticlly THAT IS ILLEGAL!!! whatever !!


BOBBY

[w3sy]

Booby, KKQ8960 --

It's not illegal to ask for help. But it IS possible that someone might ask for help in doing something illegal. Does that make sense?

Here, lemme say that again, and I'll type s-l-o-w-e-r this time...

Haw.

Nobody here is going to help someone break the law. We don't know yet if tubeman is trying to break the law, but if he is, he's gonna be s.o.l. seeking help here.

Buh bye.

[AG3Y]

Basically, we are trying to help a guy stay OUT of trouble! What is so wrong with that ? ? ?

Jim

[ka9cwk]

Actually, all us almers are trying to remember what the question was. #Who am I..........where am I?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? #What!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

Is this 1942http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?..........................

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ....methinks you folks are problably right... i offer no ideas of any type.....plus I dont know much about 60 meters any way ( I DID use it the first week or two it became legal till the new wore off ; you know how kids are !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif )...now for my part 60 meters is without me. I focus at the moment on talking on 3.955. after 10 pm local time.......a couple of 40 meter frequencies and a smittering of other HF frequencies around 18 - 21 Mhz...never get up to 12 meters or 10 meters anymore..........but back to the topic of this thread; if he gets any info, he will get it from some one else for I just have read what all you folks have posted and agree with you. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ***less than 10 days till christmas *** ... kd4amg http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[NI1N]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You are limited to no more than 50 watts peak output on the 60 meter band[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That is not accurate; on this band they go by ERP. #You are limited to 50 watts effective radiated power with reference to a half wave dipole. #Thus, if your antenna provides 3db of gain, your transmitter output cannot exceed 25 watts (PEP).

This is the only band where the maximum is placed on the ERP instead of tramitter power.

Here is a nice colorful chart (http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/Hambands_color.pdf) from the ARRL.

[WB2WIK]

Because this band has an e.r.p. limit and not a power output limit per se, you could run 500W PEP to a -10dBd antenna and be legal.

Or, possibly 5000W into a 60 meter rubber ducky

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

I never give advice about operating, amplifiers or much of anything else to anyone who hasn't posted a valid amateur callsign (I check).

WB2WIK/6

[K2WH]

Not this guy again!

K2WH

[XV2PS]

You are all wrong and can't read his English:</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">60m amp[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

this means 60 milli amperes...... far under 50 watts. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[K9STH]

NI1N:

That is quite true! The 50 watts effective radiated power is from a dipole antenna that has a theoretical gain of 2.14 dB over an isotropic.

In fact, the FCC has basically said that feedline losses should be ignored when a dipole is used unless you are using some &quot;really bad&quot; feedline!

Glen, K9STH

[ki4bgo]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WB2WIK @ Dec. 16 2003,20:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or, possibly 5000W into a 60 meter rubber ducky

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
...Anyone for smoked duck? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD7VKR]

Time for another thread on the need for callsign as username?
&quot;sorry, kkq8960 is not in the database...sorry,

[nz3m]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ki4bgo @ Dec. 16 2003,19:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WB2WIK @ Dec. 16 2003,20:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or, possibly 5000W into a 60 meter rubber ducky

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
...Anyone for smoked duck? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I can almost taste the Old Squaw now. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

AB3BK

[nz3m]

OldSquaw (http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/tools/duckdist/oldsquaw.htm)

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif
73 AB3BK

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG3Y @ Dec. 16 2003,13:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Basically, we are trying to help a guy stay OUT of trouble! What is so wrong with that ? ? ?

Jim[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
We've already done that. Now he's back with the same question again. Maybe his comprehension skills are as bad as his writing skills. He has asked the question before, been told he is asking for something illegal, so now he's asking again. I say ignore him. Totally.

Ed

Ok i guess i am not geting any. help hear. #I unnerstan that i catn us a 60 amp on 60. #I will try te amp on 80mm #you guys are prety auful the way u treet peoples.

I wil try Eham for ansers to any othr qestions. Oh and sorry for the spellng. I liv in W. Verginia and didnt get a reel eduction.

Tubeman

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif no need in using what USA state you are from as an excuse...I am from ALABAMA and I dont use that as an excuse. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ....also you said you &quot; did not get a reel eduction &quot;; if you dont know any better, then how do you know that you did NOT recieve a &quot;reel eduction&quot;. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ....oops ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ....happy holidays to you any way....

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd4amg @ Dec. 17 2003,07:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif no need in using what USA state you are from as an excuse...I am from ALABAMA and I dont use that as an excuse. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ....also you said you &quot; did not get a reel eduction &quot;; if you dont know any better, then how do you know that you did NOT recieve a &quot;reel eduction&quot;. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif ....oops ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #....happy holidays to you any way....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I know how smart. I am. and even tho i pissed my leg wen takin the test for my lisense i did it?

I am a lisense ham but will nout given them out becuse i am enbarast,

Tubeman

[K2WH]

I'm sorry Tubeman but I just can't get off the floor I'm laughing so hard.

This guy has got to be pulling a very long chain. This cannot be real. No one is this unfortunate.

K2WH

[K7PIG]

I hope I'm om the correct subject: ELMER or ALMERS.
I do believe it's ELMERS.
Short story this Spring and Summer. I had 2 boys, ages 12 and 9 plus a young lady of 13, of course they were interested in this fansinating service. Well, Spring and Summer past, no interest any longer, Trouble is the answer for them, good, one day they may wake-up and think.
Mother's are all around me and the children, heck with Mother, the childern &quot;WERE&quot; showing the interest, at that time.
No longer, the interest is lost, maybe next year, if I'm alive.
Too much extra work is also a possible problem, I don't konw.

Kids find the great enjoyment of shooting B-B's or Pellet rounds at car windows, house windows, totally destroying Federal Mailbox Locks, flattening automobile tires, anything else I left out ?

Why should I spend time helping kids to better themselves and &quot;LEARNING&quot; something new? WHY?

[N8CPA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K2WH @ Dec. 17 2003,08:20)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm sorry Tubeman but I just can't get off the floor I'm laughing so hard.

This guy has got to be pulling a very long chain. #This cannot be real. #No one is this unfortunate.

K2WH[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I dunno. It doesn't take all kinds to make a world. You make a world, you'll get all kinds. And, unfortunately, not all of them can be saved.

A couple years ago, at a VE session, a couple from an Appalachian county refused to take a test. Neither one of them could read, so we volunteered to read the questions to them. But they declined our offer when we refused their request to only read the correct answers to them. They wanted us to give them the answers. They thought the &quot;test&quot; session was just a fancy name for a licensing session. That the rules that govern licensing were so much paperwork, nothing more. Ham radio was just something they heard about on CB. They decided to stay on CB.

!!

[w3sy]

Tubesteak says:

Ok i guess i am not geting any. help hear. #I unnerstan that i catn us a 60 amp on 60. #I will try te amp on 80mm #you guys are prety auful the way u treet peoples.

I wil try Eham for ansers to any othr qestions. #Oh and sorry for the spellng. #I liv in W. Verginia and didnt get a reel eduction.

Tubeman

Haw... okay... You are SO BUSTED!! Thanks for the comic relief, Tubesock, but the jig is up. Nice satire, though, and a tip of the Callsign Cap to you, sir.

When ya go just a little too far over the top, you blow your cover. Gotta KEEP IT REAL, mah man! #You could have milked this thing for at least a couple weeks. Oh well. Was funny, though.

MFC to you and yours!

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 17 2003,09:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Tubesteak says:

Ok i guess i am not geting any. help hear. #I unnerstan that i catn us a 60 amp on 60. #I will try te amp on 80mm #you guys are prety auful the way u treet peoples.

I wil try Eham for ansers to any othr qestions. #Oh and sorry for the spellng. #I liv in W. Verginia and didnt get a reel eduction.

Tubeman

Haw... okay... You are SO BUSTED!! Thanks for the comic relief, Tubesock, but the jig is up. Nice satire, though, and a tip of the Callsign Cap to you, sir.

When ya go just a little too far over the top, you blow your cover. Gotta KEEP IT REAL, mah man! #You could have milked this thing for at least a couple weeks. Oh well. Was funny, though.

MFC to you and yours![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
W3SY, I have no idea what you are talking about. #All my posts have been original and I think fair and balanced. #You can be assured, I will not be using my 60 meter amp on 60 meters. Hi Hi

While I do not live in West Virginia, I still need advice on certain things and this is the place to find it. #I want to thank all who gave me such helpful advice and I will look for more in the future. #Oh btw, I took a class in typing and spelling last night. #Is this better?

Yours truly,

Tubeman

[N5CTI]

You shouldn't have dropped the façade there, Tuber. Before, you were an amusing sock puppet. Now, you're just an annoying sock puppet.

Give us the old Tubeman back so we can have a good chuckle...please?!?!

[N3TTN]

Fudd was the best Elmer I ever knew, I just have the greatest respect for that man. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[N8CPA]

When I put together a FD site, I'm a kind of Elmer.
So I always put together a list of call signs I've worked during previous contests to give my charges something to look for on the air. I call it the &quot;wabbit&quot; list. So what do we do during Field Day? We hunt wabbits! heh Heh HEh HEH. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[W5HTW]

Actually I'm glad Tubeman blew his cover. And I'm glad we had the opportunity to enjoy the satire. Hope he comes back in April

Ed

[w3sy]

So Tubemeister, you got a call or what?

Yes, the typing and English lessons have paid off. heh...

MFC to one and all! HO HO HO! EMMMM EFFFFF CEEEEEEE!