Cell Phone Idiots and Other Maggots [Archive]

w3sy

12-13-2003, 09:48 PM

Ever been in the car behind some jerk weed talking on his cell phone.... And he's leaning to the right at about a 45 degree angle while talking and driving? What in hell is up with THAT?

Yes, I own a cell phone. Yes, I sometimes have to take a call while driving. But I keep the call as short as possible. Somehow, though, I find a way to sit upright while I talk and drive.

I tried driving while leaning at a 45 degree angle. It's not easy! Your perception of the road becomes distorted. Who started this retarded practice?

And even though I see this happen every day, I still get honked off when I see someone flick a lit ciggie butt out a car window. Ever see the schmucks who flick it way up in the air so it comes down on your hood? Wonder if anyone ever flicked one thru the sunroof of the car behind.

Damn I hate "other" drivers.

Out.

ai4ep

12-13-2003, 10:39 PM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif yes like the ones following you that just " have to PASS " ...then they get ahead of you and go about a half mile or less and turn LEFT ( on a 2 lane paved road, and YOU have to wait for them to get clearance from oncoming traffic to turn left )...if it is at night I just put my lights on bright. It is not seen by the oncoming traffic in their eyes, but the one in front of me sees it all , right in his rear view mirror. guess they did not plan on that happening. Then after they turn left, I dim my headlights and go like nothing happened. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

KM5FL

12-13-2003, 10:41 PM

Steve:
Regardless of what others tell you, don't ever stop posting your rants on this forum.. I love 'em and they seem to make you feel sooooo much better... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KM5FL

n5tjd

12-13-2003, 11:23 PM

Maybe they aren't getting good reception? I don't have a cell, I figure if they want to talk to me that bad, just leave a message on my answering machine... now, cells come in handy in emergencies... and I wish I had one if only for that.

I havn't really noticed the ciggie-butt flickers, but I see their handywork on the sides of the road in the form of long blackened stretches where they started a fire.

People that pass for the kicks of it annoy me also. Tailgators are worse in my book... I'd rather a stupid driver be in front of me than behind me...

ai4ep

12-13-2003, 11:23 PM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif ...and do not forget the use of the #HORN button... if you happen to have a vehicle with a really GOOD one; not one of those " #dime store buzzers "....(lol ) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #and do not forget to WAVE AT THEM WITH ALL 4 FINGERS UP and THUMB OUTSTRETCHED, that really bumfuzzles them #( giving folks the " finger " is sooo " out of style " ). http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

KC5JSR

12-13-2003, 11:28 PM

Hi Steve, I know where you are coming from, Hey buddy, time for your meds. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
They're a bunch of idiots on 'da road, but you can't get 'em all.
Breathe in, Breathe out!
73'
John C

KC5JSR

12-13-2003, 11:34 PM

One more thing Steve, Paxil Cr is some good stuff, ask your local witch doctor about it. It's done me wonders.
I talk to my-self all the time, Haw.
Chill dood! We need you to be around a bit longer!
73'
John C.

P.S. No need to get your Dipole in a knot!

KC5JSR

12-13-2003, 11:38 PM

Steve, YOU DA MAN

KI4BOO

12-14-2003, 06:25 AM

The leaning while driving always had me wondering...

I dont see why anybody would want to get out of bed in the morning, only to LAY BACK DOWN in their cars. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

I tried it once myself, thinking I was missing out on a very comfortable way to get from place to place. It was just frustrating having to sit up to see out the window to make turns and such... Seemed like it was much less work to just sit upright.

Then again, I guess if you don't look out the window before you make a turn, it would be a much better way to go about it. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

w9ass

12-14-2003, 09:56 AM

Steve, you never cease to amaze me with your insight on other drivers, hams on HF, and other assorted morons. The 45 degree angle is really stupid IMHO, and is usually a practice seen in the shadier parts of town (ie: Dolton, Calumet City, and Gary IN). Notice that the moron will have a serious lean action going, and is unable to sit upright when making his call. This must be a fashion statement, man.

73,

KC9DGM
Founder, Upright Motorists Brigade

k5rna

12-14-2003, 10:20 AM

Hey Steve and the rest of you guys.Quit bragging about how nutty the drivers are where you live.I will put out nutty rude drivers up against yours any time.And i wish some one would.Tracy

12-14-2003, 01:04 PM

I must miss a lot by not having a cell phone. 2M does fine for me.

TOM K8ERV

ai4ep

12-14-2003, 01:26 PM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif 2 meter radio checks ? #suuure...if you want to know if your rig is working, just engage in normal conversation; surely who ever you are talking to will tell you if your audio is low or lots of " white noise " ...but I hear an increasing number of folks on 146.880 in Birmingham and 147.240 in Huntsville asking for " radio checks " ( and those that DO have a call sign either dont say it or ramblethroughitsofastyoucannottellwhatletters ornumbersweresaid)....heck ...makes HF so much more appealing !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

nx6d

12-14-2003, 03:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 13 2003,13:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I tried driving while leaning at a 45 degree angle. It's not easy! Your perception of the road becomes distorted. Who started this retarded practice?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It's called "gangsta leaning", brother Steve! See it alot out here on the west coast.

SoNoCo (Sonoma County) and MarinCo are Mecca for cellphones and SUV's. We have the biggest, cleanest, shiniest Hummers, Escalades and Excretions, oh excuse me, Excursions that you have ever seen. Very few of these vehicles have seen anything remotely close to four-wheeling.

These vehicles always seem to be driven by some soccer mom with two screaming brats in the back seat. And of course, the soccer mommies are ALWAYS on the phone. Who could they be talking too? None of them work!

There are so many SUV's here that they had to restripe the parking lot of the new Safeway for bigger vehicles. I'll be glad when this fad bites the dust.

WAAAAY OUT!

WX7B

w3sy

12-14-2003, 03:56 PM

It would be better if they leaned way to the LEFT.... That way, a car passing from the other direction might lop their damn heads off!

Speaking of the Gangsta thing... I have noticed that some ethnic elements like to sit real low and lean BACK when they drive. If that's not the most a$$-brained thing I've ever seen, I don't know what is.

Yes, I'll take my pills now, as soon as my hands stop shaking long enough to open the bottle.

OUT OUT OUT!!!

w3sy

12-14-2003, 08:40 PM

Here's another DEAD GIVEAWAY that you are a Stupid Person:

Wearing a construction-style HARD HAT to a football game. Who the hell started THIS retarded practice?? Some people wear ball caps to baseball games. I get that. But why a HARD HAT to a football game? Are you also supposed to bring a heavy tool belt and a metal lunch pail? How about a rivet gun and some arc welding gear? You can build a new upper deck on the stadium during halftime.

Maybe this is just my perception, but when I see a football fan wearing a hard hat, I immediately think "dumbass." It's usually a big, fat, stupid looking guy. From time to time, I see a WOMAN wearing a hard hat in the stands. Decorum forbids that I say what though THAT puts in my mind.

If baseball fans wear ball caps, why not have football fans wear football helmets? That's a stupid idea too, but a football helmet, even with the big grid-like Defensice Lineman style facemask, makes more sense than a construction hard hat.

Speaking of football, the San Francisco 49'ers REALLY suck. What a piece of crap team. The Bungles are whipping their butts right now, and the 49'ers are supplying the whip. They suck.

kd5sdi

12-15-2003, 01:06 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 13 2003,17:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ever been in the car behind some jerk weed talking on his cell phone.... And he's leaning to the right at about a 45 degree angle while talking and driving? What in hell is up with THAT?

Yes, I own a cell phone. Yes, I sometimes have to take a call while driving. But I keep the call as short as possible. Somehow, though, I find a way to sit upright while I talk and drive.

I tried driving while leaning at a 45 degree angle. It's not easy! Your perception of the road becomes distorted. Who started this retarded practice?

And even though I see this happen every day, I still get honked off when I see someone flick a lit ciggie butt out a car window. Ever see the schmucks who flick it way up in the air so it comes down on your hood? Wonder if anyone ever flicked one thru the sunroof of the car behind.

Damn I hate "other" drivers.

Out.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
3sy,
based on the posts that I have read of yours over the past three months I have a question. Is there and damn body that you don't hate? You sir, are the most visceral, whining, malcontent that I know of. Considering who I am and what I do for a living that is a bold statement. I would suggest that you seek serious psychological help.

AB8RU

12-15-2003, 01:29 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd4amg @ Dec. 14 2003,11:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif 2 meter radio checks ? #suuure...if you want to know if your rig is working, just engage in normal conversation; surely who ever you are talking to will tell you if your audio is low or lots of " white noise " ...but I hear an increasing number of folks on 146.880 in Birmingham and 147.240 in Huntsville asking for " radio checks " ( #and those that DO have a call sign either dont say it or ramblethroughitsofastyoucannottellwhatletters ornumbersweresaid)....heck ...makes HF so much more appealing !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Sounds like 2 Meter Chicken Buzzard mentallity 2 me I call that time for some major training in communication protocol, and you wonder why I love HF especially 10 Meters today I got replies from 4 states in a CQ Contest today !

AB8RU

12-15-2003, 01:40 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 14 2003,18:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here's another DEAD GIVEAWAY that you are a Stupid Person:

Wearing a construction-style HARD HAT to a football game. Who the hell started THIS retarded practice?? Some people wear ball caps to baseball games. I get that. But why a HARD HAT to a football game? Are you also supposed to bring a heavy tool belt and a metal lunch pail? How about a rivet gun and some arc welding gear? You can build a new upper deck on the stadium during halftime.

Maybe this is just my perception, but when I see a football fan wearing a hard hat, I immediately think "dumbass." It's usually a big, fat, stupid looking guy. From time to time, I see a WOMAN wearing a hard hat in the stands. Decorum forbids that I say what though THAT puts in my mind.

If baseball fans wear ball caps, why not have football fans wear football helmets? That's a stupid idea too, but a football helmet, even with the big grid-like Defensice Lineman style facemask, makes more sense than a construction hard hat.

Speaking of football, the San Francisco 49'ers REALLY suck. What a piece of crap team. The Bungles are whipping their butts right now, and the 49'ers are supplying the whip. They suck.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Steve :
Recall the Village people? the ( How should I say this without getting in trouble with the A.C.L of U. or the politickilly korrect, or labeled as a ? person who is of some anti deforatory group, Label ??) dude who wears a hard hat and belt someone will probably say his name I guess, the ones who sang Y.M.C.A. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif well am I right maybe they still go to disco dance places, ( John Travolta was doing Saturday Night Fever ABT a month back on Dish ) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

also if you get one of those BNC style antenna kits sold a Radio Shack that slides on the window just use a Greenlee chasis punch to put a hole in the top of that metal hard hat and assemble the unit there , you may get avg. height gain of say 3 to 4 feet for your HT http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

metal hats would improve the ground plane at least
LOL !

ai4ep

12-15-2003, 01:50 AM

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I have seen folks at ham fests with about a 20 inch vertical antenna sticking out of a hat walking around...dont remember if it was a metal hat or another type... wondered about the rf so close to your brain... i suppose they knew what they were doing http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif ...maybe some one that has done that will tell the rest of us all about it... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

AB8RU

12-15-2003, 01:57 AM

OK now to put in my overall response very good info. here !
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OK first of all I discovered on occasion that phone patches cannot be accessed by untrained users of the repeater I wish to use in an EMERGENCY !!

also any Business affairs by my employer, and all things I would rather have it digitized communications for privacy reasons, since that would fall under misuse of Amateur Radio Service while being paid.

Let alone there are some people I would not want to listen in my conversation anyway.

Cell service while it's rapidy growing industry, has its shortfalls.

Misuse while driving like an Idiot I think that unfortunately Law Enforcement should at least look at how may violations occour before that person is pulled over, unless they get a plate comes back WARRANT ! or WANTED ! now the light show starts.

also Cell phones after 1994 according to the FCC can legally dial 911 calls if an emergency occours, I have a Bag phone as back up to get into analog areas, where digital is a dead zone, let alone the old Bag units are 3 watts compared to Digital .3 watts and hand analog is at .6 watts , unless you had time to force it into analog .

Unfortunately the 45 degree driver If you get lucky if someone has access to license plate look ups have his address mailed a free spinal evaluation by a well known chriopractor http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif my Chrio usually wants me to ask people as referrals.

I knew one was a CBer back in the 1970's

N0KLT

12-15-2003, 02:15 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 14 2003,14:40)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here's another DEAD GIVEAWAY that you are a Stupid Person:

Wearing a construction-style HARD HAT to a football game. Who the hell started THIS retarded practice??[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Maybe they got into the habit for selfprotection. I remember being at one game at a major midwestern university in the early 70's or late 60's and having a drunken home fan throw an empty wine bottle (somebody said later it was a Boone's Farm bottle) at a noisy obnoxious fan down in front of where I was sitting minding my own business. It was so close to my ear I could hear the thing go by and the guy next to me said he saw the thing go by and it was well below top-of-head level and passed cleanly between his head and mine before hitting someone in front of me a couple of rows. Man alive, I wish I had a hard hat that day. I also watched the rest of the game and any further games I went to in that stadium with one eye on the field and kept glancing around to see what the wine(?) drinking neanderthal up behind me was doing.

BTW that was the same stadium where I once got stuck in front of the Greek section, which they segregated from the rest of the student section and an empty 16 gallon beer keg came rolling down the cement steps. Yeah they ban all alcohol in that stadium and search everyone coming in, if you don't believe it, just read the signs on the out side of the stadium.

I would rather see fans(?) in hard hats at football games then some of the really odd to really outrageous outfits some of them wear.

On sort of the same subject, why do college kids(usually) cut up good basketballs and wear them on their heads as hats and/or masks to basketball games, what's with that fashion statement???

73

Gary NØKLT

N5CTI

12-15-2003, 02:38 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5sdi @ Dec. 14 2003,20:06)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">3sy,
based on the posts that I have read of yours over the past three months I have a question. Is there and damn body that you don't hate? You sir, are the most visceral, whining, malcontent that I know of. Considering who I am and what I do for a living that is a bold statement. I would suggest that you seek serious psychological help.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Wes, I don't know who you are are what you do (you didn't say, nor is it on your QRZ.com page), but my analysis is that:

1) you'd be better off if you grew a sense of humor, and
2) if you think Steve is the most visceral, whining malcontent that you know of, you must not get out much.

I'm sure there's a grain (or maybe even a boulder) of actual discontent behind Steve's complaints, but so what? There are things in life that irritate us. Steve vents with humor in occasional QRZ.com posts. Isn't that healthier than just grinding your teeth and keeping your anger at the morons and self-centered b*stards capped up inside?

I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but I had to express my 180° disagreement with your opinion.

W5HTW

12-15-2003, 03:24 AM

Here's something to ponder. You know that all the people you speak with personally will tell you they are not part of the cell phone while driving problem. They are, they will tell you, perfectly capable of handling the car, in traffic, at 65 mph, and chatting on the phone. And they have never had an accident related to that, nor have they received a ticket.

I tell them, "Ya wanta know why?" It's because the good driver beside you on the freeway saw you weaving into his lane and HE avoided YOU. You went merrily on your way, not aware you had nearly caused an accident. It's because the car ahead of you, slowing in the traffic on the freeway, saw you looming in his rear view mirror and he changed lanes to get out of your way. So you missed him. But who was the good driver? It sure wasn't you.

I can't count the number of times I have steered clear of the "little woman" on the cell phone, also stuffing a pacifier into the baby's mouth, and checking her make-up. She has no idea how many people beside her and behind her helped her avoid an accident. Heck, she didn't even see a close call!

Or the guy shaving as he goes to work, coffee in one hand, battery razor in the other, as he steers with his thumb - or is 'steers' the right word? "Wanders" may be more appropriate. I slow down and avoid him, and he has no idea how close we were. He wasn't looking. But I was.

Or the little lady I used to see more mornings before dawn, riding along the freeway at 40 MPH, an open hardback book propped on the steering wheel, the dome light her reading light. I let her get totally off the road and onto the shoulder one morning before I finally awoke her with my horn. Of course that didn't change her. Next morning she was on a different chapter, same road, same stupidity.

Who avoided whom? All these folks tell you "I'm a good driver. I can handle it." What they don't tell you, for they don't know, is they are a lousy and dangerous driver, and it is the other guy who is protecting them. They never know. They go through life thinking how great they are.

How sad.

Ed

KI4BOO

12-15-2003, 05:06 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N5CTI @ Dec. 14 2003,19:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Isn't that healthier than just grinding your teeth and keeping your anger at the morons and self-centered b*stards capped up inside?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yea. If he didnt get on here and vent, he might end up on 75 Meters running 1500 watts and complaining about QRM, DeeEcks-ers, and them damned Contesters. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

w3sy

12-15-2003, 06:29 AM

KD5SDI checks in with:

"3sy,
based on the posts that I have read of yours over the past three months I have a question. Is there and damn body that you don't hate? You sir, are the most visceral, whining, malcontent that I know of. Considering who I am and what I do for a living that is a bold statement. I would suggest that you seek serious psychological help."

Hey, and Happy Holidays to you TOO, sir! HAW!!

I'd be happy to consider who you are and what you do for a living. Who are you, and what do you do for a living?

Sit down, and lemme explain something to ya. In this forum, we express our opinions -- WHATEVER they may be. Some topics are as serious as a heart attack. Some are totally frivolous. Me, I lean toward the totally frivolous.

Perhaps the most mentally HEALTHY thing a person can do is cut up and innocently blow off steam -- often with tongue planted firmly in cheek -- in a forum of this type. Works for me. Hey, I'm cool. You don't see me angrily busting the b@lls of people I don't know..... But if angrily lashing out at me dropped YOUR blood pressure a point or two, I'm happy as a clam.

Chill out. Lighten up.

Out.

kd5sdi

12-15-2003, 12:25 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N5CTI @ Dec. 14 2003,22:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5sdi @ Dec. 14 2003,20http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif6)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">3sy,
based on the posts that I have read of yours over the past three months I have a question. Is there and damn body that you don't hate? You sir, are the most visceral, whining, malcontent that I know of. Considering who I am and what I do for a living that is a bold statement. I would suggest that you seek serious psychological help.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Wes, I don't know who you are are what you do (you didn't say, nor is it on your QRZ.com page), but my analysis is that:

1) you'd be better off if you grew a sense of humor, and
2) if you think Steve is the most visceral, whining malcontent that you know of, you must not get out much.

I'm sure there's a grain (or maybe even a boulder) of actual discontent behind Steve's complaints, but so what? There are things in life that irritate us. Steve vents with humor in occasional QRZ.com posts. Isn't that healthier than just grinding your teeth and keeping your anger at the morons and self-centered b*stards capped up inside?

I don't want to start a flame war or anything, but I had to express my 180° disagreement with your opinion.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well, I am a visceral whining malcontent. That was part of it. The other part, is I am a paramedic.

N5CTI

12-15-2003, 01:36 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5sdi @ Dec. 15 2003,07:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, I am a visceral whining malcontent. That was part of it. The other part, is I am a paramedic.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh, well I suppose that kinda explains it. Plus, there must be a whole lot of very nice, calm people up there in PA. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

w3bny

12-15-2003, 02:01 PM

Thats why I have the full hands free kit in my diesel snortin two parkin spot takin pickumup truck (which I may add has more space inside than a crown vic!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Anyhoo.. if it rings.. it only rings once then auto answers and let the other party end the call. all my speed dials are programmed just press and hold the 2-8 button 9 is 911. nothing too hard there. If the conversation gets too envolving or notes are needed. I pull over. Otherwise yeah I'll bring eggs home.

Happy holidays.

OOOT.

N8CPA

12-15-2003, 05:26 PM

SY and HTW nailed 'em! Stupid people have no idea who they are.

No tickets, no accidents? Have they looked in the mirror to see the accidents they cause other drivers to have?

Several years ago, locally, 5 people were killed by some one who had never had an accident. And the offending driver suffered no impact, no injury, no damage.

She was skipping lanes and a cut short a dump truck. Truck driver slammed on his brakes to avoid hitting her and slid sideways into the assured clear distance of the car off his port quarter, clipping the station wagon in the process. The station wagon bounced and landed atop a concrete divider, the wheels hanging on either side of the barrier, sliding at speed metal on concrete. It skidded until it hit a lightpole where it burst into flames, killing a mother and 3 children 2-5 y.o. The pole fell on the truck killing the driver.

Witnesses to the accident identified the erratic car and its driver who drove on her merry way. She was found and prosecuted, and is now serving her sentence. No accidents, no tickets, five lives. Six, if you count her time in the pen.

!!

w3sy

12-15-2003, 05:47 PM

King Bunny Three --

You have a good system with the Hands Free. #Some people use those cell phone head sets... The ones that make you look like Garth Brooks or "Judy the Time Life Operator." Those supposedly give you "hands free" cell phone operation too, but some of the most erratic Cell Phone Maggots I've seen have been using those devices. WHY?? Because they use their "free" hands to write, eat, pick their nose, tie their tie... ANYTHING but to keep their sweaty meat hooks on the steering wheel.

I was happy to see KD5SDI check back in with a much calmer post. Paramedic? I salute you -- that's a tough job even on a GOOD day. Wes, there isn't a damn thing wrong with being a whining malcontent here. In fact, it's encouraged. The more you unburden yourself HERE, the less of a pill you'll be out in The Real World.

Hey, here's a BONUS PET PEEVE for ya: What's with the dorks who tie their sweaters around their necks? Especially the "men" (I use that term loosely) who do this. Either wear the damn thing or leave it home. Only thing worse than that is people who wear the sweaters around their necks AND have the reading glasses that they push down their noses and look over the top of 'em at ya. I don't QUITE need the reading glasses yet (YET), but if I ever wanna look like a condescending a$$ho1e, I'll get the little half-sized glasses, wear them on a string, slide them the .25 miles down to the end of my oversized schnozz, and peer coldly at people over the top of them.

For Steve N8CPA -- From time to time, I'll see someone driving like that - weaving in and out, cutting people off, riding bumpers. And every now and then, the vehicle will have a company name and phone number on it. Do I pick up the phone and rat them out to their boss? Yep. Glad to be of service!

Out.

Out.

ki4bgo

12-15-2003, 08:12 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 15 2003,14:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">King Bunny Three --

You have a good system with the Hands Free. #Some people use those cell phone head sets... The ones that make you look like Garth Brooks or "Judy the Time Life Operator." Those supposedly give you "hands free" cell phone operation too, but some of the most erratic Cell Phone Maggots I've seen have been using those devices. WHY?? Because they use their "free" hands to write, eat, pick their nose, tie their tie... ANYTHING but to keep their sweaty meat hooks on the steering wheel.

Hey, here's a BONUS PET PEEVE for ya: What's with the dorks who tie their sweaters around their necks? Especially the "men" (I use that term loosely) who do this. Either wear the damn thing or leave it home. Only thing worse than that is people who wear the sweaters around their necks AND have the reading glasses that they push down their noses and look over the top of 'em at ya. I don't QUITE need the reading glasses yet (YET), but if I ever wanna look like a condescending a$$ho1e, I'll get the little half-sized glasses, wear them on a string, slide them the .25 miles down to the end of my oversized schnozz, and peer coldly at people over the top of them.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
OK Steve, NOW ya' did it.... I could't SEE past the TEARS from laughing so hard this time!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

n0ov

12-15-2003, 08:14 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 12 2003,15:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ever been in the car behind some jerk weed talking on his cell phone.... And he's leaning to the right at about a 45 degree angle while talking and driving? What in hell is up with THAT?

Yes, I own a cell phone. Yes, I sometimes have to take a call while driving. But I keep the call as short as possible. Somehow, though, I find a way to sit upright while I talk and drive.

I tried driving while leaning at a 45 degree angle. It's not easy! Your perception of the road becomes distorted. Who started this retarded practice?

And even though I see this happen every day, I still get honked off when I see someone flick a lit ciggie butt out a car window. Ever see the schmucks who flick it way up in the air so it comes down on your hood? Wonder if anyone ever flicked one thru the sunroof of the car behind.

Damn I hate "other" drivers.

Out.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Boy -- glad hams (talking on the repeater, adjusting their HF rig, or answering an APRS terminal) never do things like this.

:-)

n0ov

12-15-2003, 08:15 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 14 2003,11:47)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">King Bunny Three --

You have a good system with the Hands Free. #Some people use those cell phone head sets... The ones that make you look like Garth Brooks or "Judy the Time Life Operator." Those supposedly give you "hands free" cell phone operation too, but some of the most erratic Cell Phone Maggots I've seen have been using those devices. WHY?? Because they use their "free" hands to write, eat, pick their nose, tie their tie... ANYTHING but to keep their sweaty meat hooks on the steering wheel.

I was happy to see KD5SDI check back in with a much calmer post. Paramedic? I salute you -- that's a tough job even on a GOOD day. Wes, there isn't a damn thing wrong with being a whining malcontent here. In fact, it's encouraged. The more you unburden yourself HERE, the less of a pill you'll be out in The Real World.

Hey, here's a BONUS PET PEEVE for ya: What's with the dorks who tie their sweaters around their necks? Especially the "men" (I use that term loosely) who do this. Either wear the damn thing or leave it home. Only thing worse than that is people who wear the sweaters around their necks AND have the reading glasses that they push down their noses and look over the top of 'em at ya. I don't QUITE need the reading glasses yet (YET), but if I ever wanna look like a condescending a$$ho1e, I'll get the little half-sized glasses, wear them on a string, slide them the .25 miles down to the end of my oversized schnozz, and peer coldly at people over the top of them.

For Steve N8CPA -- From time to time, I'll see someone driving like that - weaving in and out, cutting people off, riding bumpers. And every now and then, the vehicle will have a company name and phone number on it. Do I pick up the phone and rat them out to their boss? Yep. Glad to be of service!

Out.

Out.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
My favorite is people reading the morning news papers driving in rush hour traffic.

K8YS

12-15-2003, 08:31 PM

I enjoy blowing the horn at distacted cell phone users... it is my civic duty to help them maintain control!

I had one jackass nearly hit me me one morning rush, I blew the horn and he raised his phone and international greetings finger to say "quiet please, I'm on the phone"... I followed him for half a mile - sending CQFD, CQDX, HIHI, UR599 on the horn... it made my week!

I have since added an airpowered horn for more phone users to enjoy.

Yes, I own a cell phone, yes, I talk while I am driving, but I pay attention to the road too... just like all mobile radio users should.

N8CPA

12-15-2003, 08:46 PM

Other drivers is why I won't use a vox headset on 2 meters. It would turn the band blue. Folks with a full set of neuromuscular digital coordination are fortunate. They simply give the automotive semaphore and drive on their way, completely vented. Me? I gotta verbalize in the safety of comfort of rolled up windows.

I gave up trying to give the highway salute. When I tried it all I got was funny looks. My version of the digital looks like the backside of a boyscout salute--the one they use when they recite the oath. Twenty years ago, or so, I told some coworkers I flunked out of ASL because I spoke it with a lisp. A few years ago, a deaf comedienne started using the same line in her stage act.

Which came first, the atlatl used by moundbuilders, or the wamura used by the Australian aborigines? Parallel development!

I use a line off the top of my head as introductory self-deprecating humor in an office. She uses the same line several years later from a stage and gets paid for it repeatedly. My luck!

!!

KA4DPO

12-15-2003, 09:36 PM

n4ems

12-15-2003, 11:29 PM

So, I suppose we could outlaw cell phone use in the same fashion as the better-than-thou are trying to do with cigarette smoking. #Or maybe we could make it a serious misdemeanor, (felony in some states), to talk on the cell phone and drive, kind of like drinking and driving is. #I could see it now, 1st offense, fine, 30 days jail and one year mandatory CA (Cellulars Anonymous -- "Hi, my name is John, and I have been cell free for six weeks" -- room applaudes and congratulates). #The 2nd offense is double the fine, 90 days jail and two years CA. #Than, for those habitual offenders, maybe we could just glue the phones to there ears and make them talk to telemarketers all day long! #Of course, if this were a felony, than, based on some other hams thoughts and opinions, these dangerous members of society couldn't be hams cause they wouldn't pass the mandatory background check. #Of course, that is a whole other topic.

To counter some of the statements made about poor cell habits and driving inability being done mostly in the "shady parts of town", I strongly disagree. #It seems to me that the majority of the time I run into a problems with a cellularly impaired driver, it is the suburban born, white, 30-50 something year old male, driving around in his over priced, over sized SUV while toting around his over sized ego. #I would think that there is some kind of relation between the size of the truck and the drivers....never mind, I won't go there.

As a side bar, I have heard and seen many a ham who can't radio and drive at the same time. #America's newest epidemic on the highways: Vehicular Hamicide!! #Let the presses roll.

Ta Ta for now!

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w3sy

12-16-2003, 02:26 AM

Vehicular Hamicide! I like it....

Steve N8CPA -- I can relate to the VOX problems! When my kiddies were younger, and I'd drive with one or both of them in the back seat, I'd sometimes "forget" they were there and let loose with the usual motherfather, Ice Hole, Froggin' Ice Hole, and Gotterdammerung Ice Hole when another driver did something stupid. Whoops! Now that they are older, they fight all the time back there, so I'm reminded of their presence.

K8YS - (mirror image of SY) - Kay Ate Yellow Snow - Nice touch with the mobile CW. Could you hook up a Vibroplex Bug to the horn relay? You could qualify for one-way Rag Chewers Club (30 minute QSO) while riding down the road. QRM'ing cell phone QSO's! Damn, I wish I'd thought of that. OOOOOOoooohhhhla!!!

Beeeebebeeeebeep Beeeebeeeebebeeeeeeeeeeeeep!!

ki4bgo

12-16-2003, 03:05 AM

You guys need to quit! ...Actually Thanks! I haven't laughed so hard for so long!!! I think I busted yet ANOTHER gut!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

k6pme

12-16-2003, 01:44 PM

Hey dude.......I've driven in MD. before, it's not so bad. You wanna see some screwy drivers come to Calicrazia for awhile.

I work in the fire service and I've seen more than one accident (and 2 fatalities) because of cell phones.

I'm probably the only adult in Calicrazia that doesn't own a cell phone......

N8CPA

12-16-2003, 01:53 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n4dmj @ Dec. 15 2003,16:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">So, I suppose we could outlaw cell phone use in the same fashion as the better-than-thou are trying to do with cigarette smoking. #Or maybe we could make it a serious misdemeanor, (felony in some states), to talk on the cell phone and drive, kind of like drinking and driving is. #I could see it now, 1st offense, fine, 30 days jail and one year mandatory CA (Cellulars Anonymous -- "Hi, my name is John, and I have been cell free for six weeks" -- room applaudes and congratulates). #The 2nd offense is double the fine, 90 days jail and two years CA. #Than, for those habitual offenders, maybe we could just glue the phones to there ears and make them talk to telemarketers all day long! #Of course, if this were a felony, than, based on some other hams thoughts and opinions, these dangerous members of society couldn't be hams cause they wouldn't pass the mandatory background check. #Of course, that is a whole other topic.

To counter some of the statements made about poor cell habits and driving inability being done mostly in the "shady parts of town", I strongly disagree. #It seems to me that the majority of the time I run into a problems with a cellularly impaired driver, it is the suburban born, white, 30-50 something year old male, driving around in his over priced, over sized SUV while toting around his over sized ego. #I would think that there is some kind of relation between the size of the truck and the drivers....never mind, I won't go there.

As a side bar, I have heard and seen many a ham who can't radio and drive at the same time. #America's newest epidemic on the highways: Vehicular Hamicide!! #Let the presses roll.

Ta Ta for now!

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What a great line! I'm going to take it a bit further...

It just kills me when "other maggots" use CB terminology on the ham bands. That's vernacular hamicide!

!!

w3sy

12-16-2003, 04:57 PM

You BOTH should be sent to the Punitentiary.

Saw a jerk kid changing his shirt and tying his tie while aggressively changing lanes and riding bumpers. What a fargin' ice hole motherfather.

w3sy

12-16-2003, 05:09 PM

For KG6QQL - First, kudos and thanks for your work in the fire service. Hey, depends where in MD you go. If you are down on the Washington DC beltway (495), that's a different breed of driver there. They can make the worst Kalifornia Kamikaze pull over and cry. Drivers down there, especially the ones with the Virginia tags, will go out of their way to mess with you. You wanna merge? Change lanes? "OK BIG MAN, LET'S SEE WHAT YA GOT! CUZ YOU AIN'T GETTIN' BY ME, JACK!" That's the message. And that's just the female drivers. The guys are a LOT more dangerous.

Turn signals are a sign of weakness. Any gap between his front bumper and your back bumper is wasted space.

Closer to Baltimore, you just get the "Where the Hell am I going? What the Hell am I doing?" drivers. Their specialties are coming to a dead stop on the onramp, slowing down to 30 mph a half mile before the offramp, and NOT getting up into the intersection to wait for the chance to make a left turn. More frustrating than threatening.

dit dit!

w3bny

12-16-2003, 05:31 PM

Amen brother SY!!

I am a survivor of the heathen beltway (Gawd how I hate going to meetings up Pentagon way! )

And down here in sunny Southern MD (the land that time forgot... ) its not much better. You otta see the NAS PAX 500! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

n3ijw

12-16-2003, 05:41 PM

In defense of Virginia drivers, at least we (sometimes) use our turn signals while passing people with 3 inches to spare at 85mph.

In defense of myself, I grew up in northern VA and southern Maryland...now I have ALL the bad habits #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

kd5sdi

12-16-2003, 09:23 PM

My absolute fav is getting pulled over while I am running lights and sirens, and the cop saunters up to my truck and says, and I swear I'm not making this up, "Whats the hurry?" When you get this from the cops you can imagine what the general public is like.

KC5JSR

12-16-2003, 10:29 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5sdi @ Dec. 16 2003,14:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My absolute fav is getting pulled over while I am running lights and sirens, and the cop saunters up to my truck and says, and I swear I'm not making this up, "Whats the hurry?" When you get this from the cops you can imagine what the general public is like.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm taking a guess here, but are you a volunteer fireman?
If so, you should really try and remain cautious in your driving, Even if you're coding.
You're not going to be much help if you get into a TC, right? I'm not sure but maybe you guys have some one bullet Barneys up there, I know we have them down here. If this is the case, Well, oh well.
But even when Lights and sirens are in use, you still have to watch out for the safety of others which occupy the road.
73'
John C.
P.S. I might add, that we used to monitor the local fire and ambulance Freq's. If they were running even code 2, without a dispatch being confirmed, they could be stopped, and cited.

n4ems

12-16-2003, 10:42 PM

Actually, seeing as it is drivers in general that this post is tending to drift towards and the many follies of they so willingly display I think I can honestly say I have you all beat.

Growing up in Detroit and learning to drive there, I thought that I had seen some idiotic driving. #Mostly aggressive, high speed stupid stuff but stupid stuff just the same.

Then, in 2001, I moved to the beautiful "Sunshine State". #All I can say is - HOLY SH**!! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

The drivers in Florida are some of the WORST I have ever seen. #You get the little old lady driving 35 in the left lane of a 6 lane divided highway with her left blinker on for 20 miles while keeping a death grip on the wheel. #You dare not honk your horn, as, if you do, she will weave violently, striking the curb and bouncing back in front of you, of course at a much slower rate, causing an accident. #Of course, you could cause her to piddle in her depends and that wouldn't be very nice.

Than, you have the other little old lady, you know, the one wearing her fashionable pink and red polyester suite with her hair neatly done, (and of course, covered in a babooshka, in the 90 degree heat) and of course wearing one of those designer pair of wrap around sunglasses that the hospitals give you when you have cataract surgurey. #So, you follow this highway mama from hell and, of course, she too is driving at 35 in the left lane of a 6 lane divided with her left turn signal on for a couple of miles before you decide that you are going to venture out into the wildness of the other lanes pass her and her four Bunco friends. #As you pass them, they all look at you, with those neat wrap around glasses, and if you are lucky, you might, just might get Evil Ethel to flip you off. #Chances of this are MUCH better if you catch them as they are leaving there secret hiding place, commonly known to the general public as The Cracker Barrel.

The worst of the worst however, is the little old man who has not a clue as to where he is, driving his brand new Buick with the bright blue bug spoiler that came off of his 1976 Buick, in the right lane and suddenly decides to make the left turn, against the red, at 35 mph. #Thus, causing a 5 car pile up and and a 10 mile back up, (it takes our seniors longer to gawk for some reason). #Of course, when the old man leaves his final destination, he complains outloud, and usually over the local 2M repeater #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #, about the traffic problems all those damn kids/tourists cause. #Go figure.

Oh yeah, if it is Snow Bird season and Tourist season, why can we hunt them?

Ta Ta for now. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

W0LC

12-16-2003, 10:43 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Dec. 13 2003,14:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Ever been in the car behind some jerk weed talking on his cell phone.... And he's leaning to the right at about a 45 degree angle while talking and driving? What in hell is up with THAT?

Yes, I own a cell phone. Yes, I sometimes have to take a call while driving. But I keep the call as short as possible. Somehow, though, I find a way to sit upright while I talk and drive.

I tried driving while leaning at a 45 degree angle. It's not easy! Your perception of the road becomes distorted. Who started this retarded practice?

And even though I see this happen every day, I still get honked off when I see someone flick a lit ciggie butt out a car window. Ever see the schmucks who flick it way up in the air so it comes down on your hood? Wonder if anyone ever flicked one thru the sunroof of the car behind.

Damn I hate "other" drivers.

Out.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So tell me Steve, how does that make you feel?

Do you feel anger?
Do you feel threatened?
Do you feel like throwing a code key at them?

Just pulling your chain.

My favorite commerical is I think one for Volvo. It shows a car, drivers windown open and no driver. It goes on for like 20 seconds. Then, a dude pops up with a CD in his right hand "there it is".

Volvo
Because he's out there.

I love it! So true unfortunately!

You failed however to mention the other morons out there:

1. Guy shaving with cordless razor
2. Guy with newspaper on steering wheel
3. Guy with coffee cup and donut, in both hands.
4. Women putting on make up, doing hair, in the rear view mirror (love to hit the brakes in front of them and watch that lipstick go down the side of their face!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
5. Guy punching in cell phone numbers, head down, head down, head down, etc.
6. I love the older drivers too. You follow them at a safe distance, and the head goes from looking straight ahead to the rear view mirror like ever 3 seconds. Almost spasm like.
7. The ones that change lanes without turning a head, moving an eyball, just turning the wheel.

I am glad I sit high and dry around these folks!

6 inch suspension lift, grill guard and a 45 in the dash!

w5alt

12-17-2003, 12:51 AM

You guys don't have a clue as to bad drivers. Try running around Jakarta for a while - that'll humble you.

Here in YV it's not quite as bad, but a tremendous experience, even so. Some examples:

1) This guy in a pickup ran over a motorcycle. The cyclist jumped off and wasn't seriously hurt, fortunately. The pickup driver was yelling at the cop that the cyclist just jumped out in front of him. The cop pointed out that the pickup driver was driving on the sidewalk.

2) Between cities, it is very easy to get 3 cars passing a slower one. All at the same time. On a 2 lane road. That makes 4 cars abreast.

3) A lady driver hit a fellow crossing the street. He wasn't hurt badly, but ended up on top of her hood. She jumped out of the car screaming and started hitting him with her purse for messing up the car she just had washed. Never did put her cell phone down, though.

4) A guy parked his car in front of a no parking sign and went into a store while I was drinking coffee outside. After about half an hour, a cop pulls up, yells on his speaker for someone to move the car - no reponse. Then he calls for a wrecker, which takes another 10 - 15 minutes to get there. The wrecker hooks up to tow the car off just as the guy comes out of the store and starts arguing with the cop. As he's arguing, 3 old ladies who can hardly walk show up and start pummeling the cop with their parasols.

5) Up to about 3 years ago the cops didn't have cars here. When there was a wreck, the people would call the cops and wait, since they needed a report to settle with the insurance. It was nothing to have to wait 4 or 5 hours, sometimes a whole day would go by with the cars blocking the road. Initially the people would get out and start yelling at each other. Then someone would go get some cold drinks (it's always summer here). Then someone would bring a boom box. Then the neighbors would come out with empanadas. Then relatives would show up with beer. Then someone would order pizzas. By the time the cops finally got there, a good time was had by all.

These things really did and do happen here. You guys don't know what you are missing!

73,

KI4BOO

12-17-2003, 01:15 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n4dmj @ Dec. 16 2003,15:42)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Growing up in Detroit and learning to drive there, I thought that I had seen some idiotic driving. #Mostly aggressive, high speed stupid stuff but stupid stuff just the same.

Then, in 2001, I moved to the beautiful "Sunshine State". #All I can say is - HOLY SH**!! # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

...and so on and so forth...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You arent kidding! If Ethel isn't holding up traffic for 10 miles, Jim Bob is 3 inches from your back bumper, close enough for you to see the dried mud stuck between his tire treads. You know him... The guy with the truck so tall you cant see in his windshield?

If it isnt him, then it's the killer bees, buzzing in and out of their lanes at 90MPH, sporting the green and purple underbody lights. Nothing like spending $50,000 on a $10,000 car...

No emissions testing in Florida, so anybody who is ANYBODY has a car that burns more oil than gas. You arent cool unless you leave a smoke trail down the highway. The REALLY cool guys have the cars with the "collectable" designation on their license plate.

License plate..? Who needs those?!? Just write some letters on a piece of cardboard and tell them the original was lost. They'll believe you.

...and so on, and so forth...

KM5FL

12-17-2003, 02:12 AM

I couldn't let this thread go by without posting one more time, so here's mine..

What about the inconsiderate wanna be biker that parks his murdercicle in the striped area beside the handicapped parking space.. The handicapped person, has to maneuver around the motherfarther's scooter, into the lane of traffic.. Thus exposing himself to all those other motherfarthern ice holes everyone's eluding to..

KM5FL

N0KLT

12-17-2003, 04:00 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (wc5rr @ Dec. 16 2003,16:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You failed however to mention the other morons out there:

1. Guy shaving with cordless razor
2. Guy with newspaper on steering wheel
3. #Guy with coffee cup and donut, in both hands.
4. #Women putting on make up, doing hair, in the rear view mirror (love to hit the brakes in front of them and watch that lipstick go down the side of their face!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
5. #Guy punching in cell phone numbers, head down, head down, head down, etc.
6. #I love the older drivers too. #You follow them at a safe distance, and the head goes from looking straight ahead to the rear view mirror like ever 3 seconds. #Almost spasm like.
7. #The ones that change lanes without turning a head, moving an eyball, just turning the wheel.

I am glad I sit high and dry around these folks!

6 inch suspension lift, grill guard and a 45 in the dash![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I have seen most of the ones on the list you just gave but I have seen at least one other one that scared me more then those. Years ago before I got smart and started taking the city bus to work. I am driving on the the inside lane, and when I look over to my left I see this guy brushing his teeth while driving. I am just thankful I was on his right so that when he spit I was well away from the left side of his car.

And granted we don't have the traffic problems in Nebraska that you folks in California or on the beltway have or the bluehairs in Florida, but if you have never seen somebody with a car tag from one of the far west and very deserted counties in Nebraska, you have never seen strange driving. If the county number is in the 80's or 90's you probably are seeing one of the few cars in that county. Nothing like driving in bumper to bumper 4-6 lane traffic with vehicles that normally share the road with a bunch of tractors, a pickup or 2 and several cattle trucks and a combine or 2. Now thats fun. Beats playing bumper tag with Hell's Angels and the soccer mom's in SUV's all hallow for excitement.

73

Gary, NØKLT

kd5sdi

12-17-2003, 01:05 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC5JSR @ Dec. 16 2003,18:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kd5sdi @ Dec. 16 2003,14:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">My absolute fav is getting pulled over while I am running lights and sirens, and the cop saunters up to my truck and says, and I swear I'm not making this up, "Whats the hurry?" When you get this from the cops you can imagine what the general public is like.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'm taking a guess here, but are you a volunteer fireman?
If so, you should really try and remain cautious in your driving, Even if you're coding.
You're not going to be much help if you get into a TC, right? I'm not sure but maybe you guys have some one bullet Barneys up there, I know we have them down here. If this is the case, Well, oh well.
But even when Lights and sirens are in use, you still have to watch out for the safety of others which occupy the road.
73'
John C.
P.S. I might add, that we used to monitor the local fire and ambulance Freq's. If they were running even code 2, without a dispatch being confirmed, they could be stopped, and cited.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Volunteer Firefighter, volunteer paramedic, and paid paramedic. You are correct about protocol concerning lights, sirens, and reduced speed. I was in a clearly marked rescue squad truck and had a critical patient in the back. I was going about seventy in a 60 mph zone (four lane highway) #which is the #absolute maximum I will ever push the truck. But you are correct, we will get a ticket if we are using too much speed for the seriousness of the call. OH, and the one bullet barneys are called captains here. CHAOS (Chief Has Arrived On Scene)

KC5JSR

12-17-2003, 06:41 PM

We have a whole lot of Officers in this area that don't even know the term "Post Councel Certified"
I became an MP in 1984, and went civilian in 1988.
That didn't count for experience, so I started to school.
It's a crying shame when one of these guys will stop an ambulance, that might have someone in the back coding.

That is the main reason we monitored. To correct my-self, the dispatcher monitored. It sounds like they could use an upgrade on their Comm. system.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, 73'
John C.
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KC5JSR

12-17-2003, 06:45 PM

Oh, and by the way, Stay safe and Gods speed.
73'
John C.

n4ems

12-18-2003, 02:13 AM

To the Paramedic who was stopped by a police officer while transporting a critical patient. #This is how I would have handled it. #Don't stop. #You are in a marked and licensed emergency vehicle. #In most states, the law is somewhat vague as to what you are allowed to use as a maximum speed. #In most cases, it is "due regard" and that is open to a lot of interpretation.

You could have had your partner contact your dispatch via radio and instructed them to contact the law enforcement agencies dispatch to tell the officer that if he wants to talk to you, it will be at the hospital.

As a paramedic, your first obligation is to provide patient care. #Stopping for a traffic violation, in this case what sounded like a civil infraction, is not in the best interest of the "critical" patient. #If the police department wanted to push the issue and try and cite you for fleeing, you could have countered with the fact that it is a felony to interfere with a paramedic in the course of there duties, much like that of interfering with a police officer in his line of duty. #The officer would have opened himeself, the department, you and your agency to civil and possibly criminal liabilities if the patient were to suffer from any harm as a result of this traffic stop. #Since in a civil case it is the preponderance of the evidence and not guilt beyond a shadow of a doubt, you would stand a good chance at loosing.

As I stated, you are in a marked and licenced/certified emergency vehicle with emergency lighting and audible siren activated. #You have the right of way and the laws of the highway are not subject to enforcement against you provided you are operating with due regard. #If you were in fact doing 70 mph in a 60 mph zone, operating in emergency mode, it would be my opinion that, unless traffic and weather conditions prohibited, you were operating with due regard. #In most cases, 10 mph over the posted limit in emergency mode is the gold standard. #

Always remember, pt care is your critical responsibility.

73

Eric
N4DMJ
EMT-Paramedic (MI, FL), EMD