View Full Version : YEMEN!!
KC7YRA
04-29-2012, 05:22 PM
http://dx-world.net/2012/yemen-activity/
Get it now as it may never happen again LOL.
Brad
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 05:34 PM
RATS!!!! That is right when I am driving to Dayton! Doesn't say when it will start, but it supposedly ends May17th. Not a word of this was mentioned at Visalia, so this was a super secret deal. N6PSE was there at Dayton too, you would have thought he would have said something. The website says it might start within a week. This will be the MOTHER of ALL PILEUPS!!! And a real BEAR for West Coast, yet it might be possible long path. I did work the ST0R, so there is Hope!
They WILL have beams and Kilowatts, and top operators, so this is very promising!
KC7YRA
04-29-2012, 05:43 PM
Ya, it was kept very quiet. Althought, N6PSE was talking about a top 10 entity being activated this summer. He was just quiet as to who.
I am holding out hope for this. I have been able to get into the log on all of the recent DXpeditions lately and only missed out on YI9PSE. As long as propagation does not flatline, I think i'm good to go. But YES. The pileups will be hugenormous!!
One CW contact is all I need LOL!!!
Brad
AF6LJ
04-29-2012, 05:53 PM
Pat there are plenty of mountains on your route from which you could work them.
All you really need is to get that ALS-500 for the TC and get it installed before you leave.
UA6JD
04-29-2012, 08:06 PM
For more information about 7O6T DXpedition click to image below:
http://imagesbase.com/upload/view/metall_133573_1_9_enqyz12568.jpg (http://www.yemen2012.com/index.php)
www.yemen2012.com
Supposedly QRV tomorrow.
Latest tweets, they are onsite:
http://twitter.com/#!/7o6t/status/196696225964244992
The pileups will be INSANE!
My amp is ready, beam is aimed...
N0AZZ
04-29-2012, 09:42 PM
Never thought I would see it happen. I'll be all over that one!
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 09:47 PM
Starts TOMORROW!!!! APRIL 30th!!!
WARM UP THE KILOWATTS!!! You will need EVERY MILLIWATT of it!!!! Time to SMOKE those antennas!!!!
Hope they plan to listen at least up 5 Khz on 20m SSB. If not, the U.S. is screwed!
The pileups will be INSANE!
That's putting it lightly, good luck on working 'em, Ryan.
How many threads will now get started regarding, lids, tuner up'ers, QRM'ers & other malcontents during this DXpedition?
Ho hum, broken record alert!!!
Tom KCØW
This will be a big one, but the team is first rate. The SFI is above 115 so the west coast should have propagation on 15-30 and likely 40.
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 10:48 PM
Will watch the first day and see what time the West Coast has propogation. Wonder if I oughta call in sick on Tuesday? I can ALWAYS get another job. I CAN'T always work Yemen!
Hope they plan to listen at least up 5 Khz on 20m SSB. If not, the U.S. is screwed!
I will look for them on CW too.
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 11:28 PM
CW is probably our best hope!!
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 11:29 PM
OOPS! Dupe!
Starts TOMORROW!!!! APRIL 30th!!!
WARM UP THE KILOWATTS!!! You will need EVERY MILLIWATT of it!!!! Time to SMOKE those antennas!!!!
Where did you get that info, Pat? I don't see anything on their web site, unless I missed it.
...........Bob
WA6MHZ
04-29-2012, 11:59 PM
Someone posted it on the DX Summit
"
DL1SBF 7O6T operation will get started at 21:00Z on April 30 and until 21:00Z May 15 2057 29 Apr"
W6OGC
04-30-2012, 12:04 AM
Somehow tweeting from the site takes all the allure and magic out of it.
CW is probably our best hope!!
I'd rather have a root canal without pain killers....
KJ4VTH
04-30-2012, 02:03 AM
Got 'em! Card is in the mail. :cool:
Maybe P5 will come up soon as well-miracle #2 if it does. I have Yemen confirmed but am missing P5 to have them all. Good luck to all who need 7O
Wonder if I oughta call in sick on Tuesday?
Last time I looked, I had 360 hours of vacation time accrued so I'm good!:cool:
AC0FP
04-30-2012, 03:21 AM
I agree, working DX is no longer what it used to be! I think there should be a new category "computer assisted contact". I don't tweet!
73,
fp
N0AZZ
04-30-2012, 10:38 AM
I agree, working DX is no longer what it used to be! I think there should be a new category "computer assisted contact". I don't tweet!
73,
fp
I think there is a new one it's called Bi*ch, Bi*ct, Bi*ch and then cry if you don't like to work DX that way DON'T!
Everyone else will be especially this one I'm running 3 radios on 3 different antennas on different bands with 2 different amps and using 3 computers. I'm going all out on this one I will never get another chance. Computers are here to stay the best thing that ever happened to this hobby as far as tools and modes being able to work plus for DX and Contesting.
Somehow tweeting from the site takes all the allure and magic out of it.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. For me it just added to the anticipation and the excitement.
i already worked them - hehe.
I agree, working DX is no longer what it used to be! I think there should be a new category "computer assisted contact". I don't tweet!
73,
fp
I see that you have fairly modern gear with modern features instead of boat anchors. Maybe there should be a "new catagory" for that too?
Someone calling CQ on their 20 meter CW frequency but is a pirate apparently. This one's going to get ugly!!
I see there web site has been updated to indicate they intend to start at 2100Z today . . . just about half and hour from now!!
WA6MHZ
04-30-2012, 08:54 PM
Watching DX Summit. No spots with 3 minutes to go!
14.024 already is a ZOO! I mean really . . . .
14.024 already is a ZOO! I mean really . . . .
like they have a right to that freq? they would do well to start someplace else first. lids.
working lots of EU. we'll have to wait.
working lots of EU. we'll have to wait.
Loud here in FL but the Europeans are impossible to break through!
K9ASE
04-30-2012, 09:18 PM
DX watch has them on SSB working split 14.145 working up
think I just heard W4UM work them on 17!
K9ASE
04-30-2012, 09:27 PM
think I just heard W4UM work them on 17! they're loud on 17M 18.145 I just need an antenna to work:( them oh well back to 20M:)
WA6MHZ
04-30-2012, 09:29 PM
I still have 2 hours before I can go home from work. Also spotted on 7065 & 3504 working EU
K6ND says he worked them on 21024, and another report from SoCal on 17. GRRRR!!!!! I HATE having to work. But maybe the pileups will whittle down in a few days. WOW! So many bands at once! They are really going hard at it!
got them on 15m
http://soundcloud.com/three_oscar/7o6t-15m-cw
i'm surprised i got through.
WA6MHZ
04-30-2012, 09:43 PM
FB!!! congrats! man, that is fast CW!!!
Looks like 17M is the band to snag them on, but all I have is a miserable R5 vertical on that band. Am thinking about one of those MFJ 1775W rotatable dipoles; but at $250 not sure it is worth it.
Sucks not having a good antenna for 17 and 12!
W5BIB
04-30-2012, 10:49 PM
Damn!, they ain't wastin' no time... VERY fast & strong on 21024.7 (on a east-west dipole)... think I'll wait a few daze! ...whew & sheesh!... 2150z this date listening up & it's a JUNGLE!!!...
Been strong for the past hour on 18145 working by the numbers. We'll see when they get to 7's if I can get em on a WARC band.
The band police with southern accents are outdoing themselves. Doubt seriously if any of them will work the 7O but they are vowed and determined to keep everybody on the right track. The rarer the DX the worse they seem to be. Sorry folks but I've been licensed for 54+ years and this just keeps getting worse. Good operating practices seem not to count much anymore.
WB2WIK
04-30-2012, 10:58 PM
The band police with southern accents are outdoing themselves. Doubt seriously if any of them will work the 7O but they are vowed and determined to keep everybody on the right track. The rarer the DX the worse they seem to be. Sorry folks but I've been licensed for 54+ years and this just keeps getting worse. Good operating practices seem not to count much anymore.
Less of them on CW and the accents are gone.:p
Less of them on CW and the accents are gone.:p
the CW has it's own sweet sound ;)
K9ASE
04-30-2012, 11:03 PM
Damn!, they ain't wastin' no time... VERY fast & strong on 21024.7 (on a east-west dipole)... think I'll wait a few daze! ...whew & sheesh!... 2150z this date listening up & it's a JUNGLE!!!... I gave up awhile ago I'm trying to work some other middle east stations that are getting a little less attention because of these guys
KD8FYI
04-30-2012, 11:05 PM
Well they are working 7's now and I'm an 8!
73,
Ed
Well they are working 7's now and I'm an 8!
73,
Ed
get club calls for all 10 regions ;)
KD8FYI
04-30-2012, 11:14 PM
get club calls for all 10 regions ;)
Oh, Is that why that's done? Unfortunately the longer his working 7's the weaker his signals is getting.
We'll try anyway,
Ed
K9ASE
04-30-2012, 11:17 PM
Oh, Is that why that's done? Unfortunately the longer his working 7's the weaker his signals is getting.
We'll try anyway,
Edthat's the joy of having a 9:)
you
K9ASE
04-30-2012, 11:20 PM
heads up saudi station just said they'll 7O6t will be on 21.295 shortly so he's moving
KD8FYI
04-30-2012, 11:22 PM
that's the joy of having a 9:)
you
Now he's working 8's!
KE3FG
04-30-2012, 11:28 PM
15Meter 7O6t is strong here in Pa., but often someone throws a carrier right on the DX freq. He doesn't use LOTW, so I am not too thrilled about fighting the pileup to work the DX.
KD8FYI
04-30-2012, 11:32 PM
that's the joy of having a 9:)
you
He's working 9's now, I missed him. Oh,well.
73 and have fun,
Ed
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 12:03 AM
Hopeless from West Coast! Notta peep on 18Mhz, or 14. He might be there on 15 but the QRM has buried him! THIS IS EXACTLY where a rig like a FTdx5000 would pay off. Being able to use all those Filters and DSPs to dig his signal alone out from under the mess!! Not looking good! IF I can't hear him, I SURE can't work him!
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 12:31 AM
Well, ATLEAST I finally worked the YJ0VK on CW, so the radio still works!
Somehow tweeting from the site takes all the allure and magic out of it.
No it doesn't.
I'm sorry that you feel that way. For me it just added to the anticipation and the excitement.
Absolutely this!
i already worked them - hehe.
Got them on 3 bands so far (20, 15, 17). 30 meters was a MESS I tell you. 20kHz wide split and wall to wall pileups. Oh the humanity!!!
I hope they go on 40 cw soon.
KC7YRA
05-01-2012, 02:29 AM
Phew! Not easy lol. 35khz spread on ssb and 25khz on CW. Signals are mostly good for me but as anticipated the pileups are epic.
Gonna earn this one from the left side.
Brad
XYL drug me to the baseball game but I'm back and worked them on 17 and 20, CW and SSB!!
They are on 40 cw right now, 7.004. Just worked them but unbelievably rude ops on frequency. Great GOD!!
PS: I merged a couple of Yemen threads to keep all in one place.
KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 03:04 AM
http://dx-world.net/2012/yemen-activity/
Get it now as it may never happen again LOL.
Brad
I'd like to have them in the log. At the same time, I just heard the pileup on ten meters. I wouldn't wade into a pileup like that to work Marconi's ghost calling CQ DX from Pyongyang. If the pileup thins out to about 1/100th of what I'm hearing now, then I'll jump in. Will be a little surprised if that happens though, simply because it's a pretty rare entity.
K7JBQ
05-01-2012, 04:24 AM
I'm listening to the pileup now on 20. Can't hear a peep from the DX.
But the pileup is nothing compared to the two biggies in the late '80s, when both Viet Nam and Albania came back on after many years of silence.
Those were pileups!
73,
Bill
I'd like to have them in the log. At the same time, I just heard the pileup on ten meters. I wouldn't wade into a pileup like that to work Marconi's ghost calling CQ DX from Pyongyang. If the pileup thins out to about 1/100th of what I'm hearing now, then I'll jump in. Will be a little surprised if that happens though, simply because it's a pretty rare entity.
W5BIB
05-01-2012, 04:44 AM
Hopeless from West Coast! Notta peep on 18Mhz, or 14. He might be there on 15 but the QRM has buried him! THIS IS EXACTLY where a rig like a FTdx5000 would pay off. Being able to use all those Filters and DSPs to dig his signal alone out from under the mess!! Not looking good! IF I can't hear him, I SURE can't work him! Switch on one of ur R-390A's..........
W5BIB
05-01-2012, 04:47 AM
Well they are working 7's now and I'm an 8!
73,
Ed It's what they call; "S O L" ..........
AC0FP
05-01-2012, 04:52 AM
I see that you have fairly modern gear with modern features instead of boat anchors. Maybe there should be a "new catagory" for that too?Yes, they call it "solid state" and I mention that on my QSL cards! Therefore, my conscience is clear.
fp
UA6JD
05-01-2012, 06:21 AM
Forward from DXLab Mailing list
Just a heads up on 7O6T......
Socotra Is. is in Zone 37, Africa, IOTA AF-028. Regular 7O is Zone 21, Asia.
Make sure u log 7O6T in the right zone and continent.
Eric / W4DXX
I can hear them just fine on 20 and 17 CW. I hear them the best on 17 and well into the evening up to about 0530 UTC while they were working non US stations.
On phone they were a bit touch and go. I heard them a little while on 15 phone but again, touch and go.
It's a dangerous place to be these days. Sure hope they can stick it out the whole time.
I saw a spot that asked PSE PSK31.
Give that funny man a rubber nose and a job in the circus!!
UA6JD
05-01-2012, 09:43 AM
File format /{date}-{time GMT}
20m SSB http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/10may-0453
17m CW http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/10may-0500
15m CW http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/10may-0506
15m SSB http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/10may-0518
10m CW http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/03may-1043
12m CW http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/03may-1040
17m SSB http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/03may-1046
15m SSB http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/01may-0827
20m CW http://soundcloud.com/ua6jd/01may-0829
Nice you worked them. Heard them on 20 CW last night but there were primarily working East Coast (No surprised there) and Russians. Very few in my area got thru from the hour I sat listening. Perhaps later in the week? Hope they won't just be working easy pickins...LOL
WA8UEG
05-01-2012, 11:39 AM
Got em right away on 20 SSB but took a half hour on 15 CW. Think I'll wait a few days for other bands & modes.
i listened for a few hours while i did some work and would drop my call here and there. many stupid people out of band and telling people they were out of band on 14.145.
Yeah, always a lot of that, and never have understood why. In any regard, you should snag them easily from there as compared to here...hopefully, they will weed down the pile quick and the silliness will die out...
i listened for a few hours while i did some work and would drop my call here and there. many stupid people out of band and telling people they were out of band on 14.145.
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 01:23 PM
Need reports on when the West Coast has a prayer so I can take off work and come home to work them. I don't want to leave for Dayton without atleast ONE contact in the log. Right now I am fighting Propogation to them. I gotta be able to HEAR them before I can work them!
Right now I am fighting Propogation to them. I gotta be able to HEAR them before I can work them!
Now you know how I felt with Spratly!! The Yemen fellows have had great signals into Florida. They were just coming up on 15 this AM to where I could hear them when they went QRT. Maybe later. I spent the first hour yesterday trying to work them on 17 when they were 10 over S9 on 15 and I never listened there until a minute before having to leave the shack. So hopefully they'll be back on 15 later today.
.............Bob
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 02:00 PM
Spratly ops had very poor antennas and ran qrp. So they were tough here on the West Coast too! I only nailed ONE contact with them! Yemen is a first class DXpedition with lotsa quality ops, Beams and Kilowatts. Confidence level is high on this one, after all the East coast has them on all bands and modes and enough insurance contacts are made. The salvation compared to DXpeditions of the long past is ON LINE LOGGING!! This way, the DXer can SEE if he is in the log on that particular band, so he doesn't need to work him again and again just to make sure he IS in the log! In the past, I am sure there were countless multiple contacts on the same band and mode just because the DXer had no for-sure guarantee he had been worked.
I know when I sent off for the A51B card, I had about a 20% confidence I was in the log. I THOUGHT I had heard them send back my call correctly, and evidently they did. Since it was on CW, I can never be sure since I am a very VERY poor copier of CW. (though I am getting better)
CW may be my only prayer on this one, but I will take it. A MIXED #1 Honor Roll is better than NONE! Up until now, I had virtually ALL my contacts on Phone. Only in the past 6 months or so have I even ventured into CW DXing. But, You gotta go where the DX is, and if they are on CW, that is what you hafta do to WORK THEM!
KA7JUN
05-01-2012, 02:18 PM
Nobody in my neck of the woods got through yet. They were an S5 on 20 SSB and CW last night which was a great surprise. No straining to hear the DX this time!! But they must have been much louder to the east coast and EU as that is what they were running. If this were just a 2 or 3 day "pedition", I would not be at work today. I would be at home hitting it hard. Since they are going for a few weeks, I'm not worried.
Brad
OH crap, I was logged in under my buddies account. This is actually Brad KC7YRA. That's what I get for using his computer!!!!!!!!!
KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 03:56 PM
Anyone know how long this DXpedition is supposed to last? I didn't spot that info on their website.
UA6JD
05-01-2012, 04:24 PM
Anyone know how long this DXpedition is supposed to last? I didn't spot that info on their website.
.....until 21:00z May 15 (more two weeks)
KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 05:05 PM
.....until 21:00z May 15 (more two weeks)
Awesome. That's quite a while. I'll wait until the second to last day or so. That's a strategy that has served me extremely well over the years and spared me much pileup time.
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 05:25 PM
They were calling for West Coast USA on 18145 at 1640Z. So some are getting through.
you will get them Pat. have faith brother!
Awesome. That's quite a while. I'll wait until the second to last day or so. That's a strategy that has served me extremely well over the years and spared me much pileup time.
I wouldn't be so sure.
Some operations QRT early because they are either forced to by the authorities or because of logistics and/or weather.
I would try while you can. Use a friend's station if you have to, or improve yours, or simply be persistent. But don't wait until the last minute because there probably won't be one!
Exactly. Can't always bank on an operation lasting the posted time due to weather, supplies, political conditions that can change with the drop of a hat...like what happened with P5. He was told he could operate, and then suddenly, get out, leave your radio equipment, bye bye....
FYI: Past Yemen Operations:
7O1AA by 9K2DR and 9K2EC May/June 1990
7O8AA by F2VX and F6EXV July/August 1990
7O1YGF by DLs in April 2000
7O/OH2YY in May 2002
But with the current "issues" with that general region, who knows when another operation may occur.
Just a tid bit of info from the past.
KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 08:20 PM
I wouldn't be so sure.
Some operations QRT early because they are either forced to by the authorities or because of logistics and/or weather.
I would try while you can. Use a friend's station if you have to, or improve yours, or simply be persistent. But don't wait until the last minute because there probably won't be one!
You're correct and I know I run the risk of not making it into the log, but I'm prepared to take that risk if it means avoiding the huge pileups.
FYI: Past Yemen Operations:
7O1AA by 9K2DR and 9K2EC May/June 1990
7O8AA by F2VX and F6EXV July/August 1990
7O1YGF by DLs in April 2000
7O/OH2YY in May 2002
But with the current "issues" with that general region, who knows when another operation may occur.
Just a tid bit of info from the past.
Sounds like they activate every 10 years.
I can't wait another 10 years!!!
You're correct and I know I run the risk of not making it into the log, but I'm prepared to take that risk if it means avoiding the huge pileups.
With split there's really no huge pileups. Find a quietish spot and they'll find you.
Program your CW memory keyer or your DVK and use them!
KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 08:38 PM
With split there's really no huge pileups. Find a quietish spot and they'll find you.
Program your CW memory keyer or your DVK and use them!
I don't know why, but I just can't bring myself to do that for hours (even with a memory keyer) when I could be on another band working some other (admittedly less rare) DX. I guess my heart just isn't in it.
If the number of calling stations eventually thins out, then I will make a real effort to get into the log. If I don't make it, it will be too bad but I won't lose any sleep over it.
WA6MHZ
05-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Just like POKEMON's, Gotta CATCH THEM ALL!!!
My baby boy used to watch that show RELIGIOUSLY, and spent much of kidhood chasing Pokemons!
Don't know what HIS baby boy will chase.
But GRAMPS has to chase DX countries. Gotta be EVER VIGILANT and work them at ALL COSTS!
Snooze and you miss a POKEMON, or a DX Station as it might be. One by one they get picked off. In the early days of a DXing career, you might polish off 10-20 new ones a day. But as you get closer to the end, EVERY new one is a major event. One where when U work them, it is time to go out and CELEBRATE, much like a Wedding!!!!
NON-DXers just wouldn't understand. They can't fathom how saying "FIVE NINE" to someone on the other side of the world would be in the SLIGHTEST bit of importance. But to the REAL DXer, it is. It is ALL they live for. They change their lives for it.
I might have to put off the drive to Dayton until I am IN THE LOG! May 15th at 2100 is when it is OVER. My projected launch was May 12th. I have been going out to the Town Car and listenning on the mobile to see if I can hear them. If they become AUDIBLE, I will have to RACE HOME and give it a shot. Sorry, WORK isn't as important to me as logging this DX station. I can ALWAYS get another job, (well, NO I can't!) But this is a ONCE IN A LIFETIME shot. Miss, and my life will be that much emptier; knowing I FAILED at something that should have been successful. And that is what we live for: Success. Some judge their success by the amount of money they acquire. Others by the fine times in their LOVE LIFE. But a REAL DXer will feel great satisfaction in knowing he was in the Pileups, GIVING IT HIS ALL. He might not make the log, but he went down in flames TRYING!
W5BIB
05-01-2012, 10:14 PM
Just like POKEMON's, Gotta CATCH THEM ALL!!!
My baby boy used to watch that show RELIGIOUSLY, and spent much of kidhood chasing Pokemons!
Don't know what HIS baby boy will chase.
But GRAMPS has to chase DX countries. Gotta be EVER VIGILANT and work them at ALL COSTS!
Snooze and you miss a POKEMON, or a DX Station as it might be. One by one they get picked off. In the early days of a DXing career, you might polish off 10-20 new ones a day. But as you get closer to the end, EVERY new one is a major event. One where when U work them, it is time to go out and CELEBRATE, much like a Wedding!!!!
NON-DXers just wouldn't understand. They can't fathom how saying "FIVE NINE" to someone on the other side of the world would be in the SLIGHTEST bit of importance. But to the REAL DXer, it is. It is ALL they live for. They change their lives for it.
I might have to put off the drive to Dayton until I am IN THE LOG! May 15th at 2100 is when it is OVER. My projected launch was May 12th. I have been going out to the Town Car and listenning on the mobile to see if I can hear them. If they become AUDIBLE, I will have to RACE HOME and give it a shot. Sorry, WORK isn't as important to me as logging this DX station. I can ALWAYS get another job, (well, NO I can't!) But this is a ONCE IN A LIFETIME shot. Miss, and my life will be that much emptier; knowing I FAILED at something that should have been successful. And that is what we live for: Success. Some judge their success by the amount of money they acquire. Others by the fine times in their LOVE LIFE. But a REAL DXer will feel great satisfaction in knowing he was in the Pileups, GIVING IT HIS ALL. He might not make the log, but he went down in flames TRYING!...or, up in smoke!:p
AB1QP
05-01-2012, 10:58 PM
[QUOTE=WM3O;2536697..... many stupid people out of band and telling people they were out of band on 14.145.[/QUOTE]
Maybe they just bumped the VFO?
AB1QP
WA8UEG
05-01-2012, 11:07 PM
Hope they start loading the logs on their sight.
Need them on 80, 30 and 15 meters. Nothing on 15 all day and that surprised me.
K9ASE
05-01-2012, 11:37 PM
Need them on 80, 30 and 15 meters. Nothing on 15 all day and that surprised me.they are on 15 now 21.295
KE4KY
05-02-2012, 12:14 AM
Got them 20m CW just a few moments ago....
For the love of God, I can't figure why people would:
Deliberately jam them
Unintentionally jam them by tuning up
Seems just so childish, but this is happening on 40m right now.
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 12:27 AM
Still not a PEEP any band, any mode in SoCal!
KE4KY
05-02-2012, 12:30 AM
Hopefully 20 or 17 will open up for you shortly.
KE4KY
05-02-2012, 12:44 AM
Just worked them on 17m CW...having a great night!
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 12:57 AM
I oughta post the calls of the @#@#@# transmitting right on top of him on 20CW
well this is hopeless. I am going to bed!
KE4KY
05-02-2012, 01:03 AM
I believe the date of ceasing the operation was posted as the 15th...
You will get him....
Maybe they just bumped the VFO?
AB1QP
i get it, you're funny.
Need them on 80, 30 and 15 meters. Nothing on 15 all day and that surprised me.
you are on a roll! i spent some time on the 20 CW mess and then dropped down to 17 CW and got them within 5 minutes. the going by the numbers on 20 SSB is good and bad - good that it thins the herd, bad that it's slow.
N6OIL
05-02-2012, 02:19 AM
I have no hope of ever working them on 10m from my QTH with 100w and a 5BTV, dang it I need to flipping upgrade. Later, off to studying.
And no smart remarks about you already worked them on 10m voice from 6 land!!! (Ya you and your KW station and beams 200 feet up!)
Seriously if anyone does work them on 10 from the west coast please post your stats please. Good luck all!
Trying to work them on 30 meters with my 80 meter folded dipole at the moment. Not working so well . . . .
Just worked them on 17 CW. Pretty good signal again this evening, S7 and up to S9 at times.
I can only barely hear them on 20 CW right now.
A friend up in Sequim WA worked them easily on 17 SSB and CW about 9AM local today.
KC7YRA
05-02-2012, 02:46 AM
WOO HOOO!!! I have not worked this hard for a Q in a long time.
They were going by numbers on 20ssb when they hit 6 and 7. They had lots calling but could not seem to hear them.
They (7O6T) were only at S-1 with the preamp on!!!!! Somehow, I squeaked through. They eventually asked for "any station west of the rockies". I counted 4 who got through. I feel extremely lucky.
With the folks on the cluster posting 599+20, I had no chance at hearing them at an s-5 tops. 20cw has been a compelte bust. I can track their RX frequency ok but others just jump right in with me and usually get picked up. LOTS of 2s and 4s working them.
Nothing head today on 15, 12, or 12 CW/SSB.
Good luck to the rest of the western U.S. It is a tough road. I just got extremely lucky and held my tongue at the correct angle I guess.
No band fills needed here. If I only get the 1 Q, I'm happy.
Brad
If I only get the 1 Q, I'm happy.
So am I...until I get it!!
I always shoot for CW and phone if I can.
KC7YRA
05-02-2012, 03:24 AM
Ya, I'm gonna hit the CW hard and try to get in. I'm sure it will be no problem in a week when things thin out, it's just the pressure of that first Q.
Brad
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 04:25 AM
I am hearing them pretty good on 17 CW now, but not getting through yet....
AC0FP
05-02-2012, 04:30 AM
Now you know how I felt with Spratly!! The Yemen fellows have had great signals into Florida. They were just coming up on 15 this AM to where I could hear them when they went QRT. Maybe later. I spent the first hour yesterday trying to work them on 17 when they were 10 over S9 on 15 and I never listened there until a minute before having to leave the shack. So hopefully they'll be back on 15 later today.
.............BobI still haven't heard them in my location. I will keep listening but I don't use spots! If they have been spotted then my 100 watts and Hexbeam won't have much of a chance, unless its down to to last few days of operation.
PS: I think I have enough station to work them, I worked E77A last night (04:30Z) with 5/9 SSB signals.
fp
They were very copyiable here on 20 meters last nite (5/1) even with the heavy QRMing and loud static crashes and the SSB op was doing Numbers (about time). Sure worked a bunch of 3/4s and not as many 9/0s but many 6/7s got thru. CW is rough. They seem to work NA and Asia (mainly UA's) about the same time, but getting thru the East Coast is nearly impossible, at this point. I plan to wait until the end of the week when some of the excitement dies down. Love to work them at least on 40 but doubt that will happen with the high noise here.
The band I would really focus on is 17 and 20. 20 has general prop most of the evenings.
GL to all.
I am hearing them pretty good on 17 CW now, but not getting through yet....
USE THE FORCE(12)!
the online log is available now
USE THE FORCE(12)!
I prefer to Stepp(IR) on them.
So I had the rig set on 15 CW listening this AM doing some other work in the shack when lo and behold they came on the air! "I'll get 'em now before the huge pileup starts!, I thought." Several calls but nothing until someone sends "W4PG UP."
CRAP!! Seriously?? Had everything set up but the SPLIT button!! ARRGGHHH!!! I just HATE it when I do that!!
Got them a minute later!! Whew!!!! They only operated for a few minutes, so now I'm wondering if it was a pirate! Guess I can check the log later and see.
...........Bob
If they have been spotted then my 100 watts and Hexbeam won't have much of a chance, unless its down to to last few days of operation.
Keep in mind they are working a fairly large split most of the time, 10 kHz or more. You don't need big antennas and power as much as the luck of transmitting right where they are listening. Listen for the guy they just worked and pounce on that frequency!
I prefer to Stepp(IR) on them.
hahah. lightning is not your friend (or heavy ice, high wind, or spiders)
Listen for the guy they just worked and pounce on that frequency!
that did not work very well for me on 20m CW last night - they would immediately move up or down to find someone else. it was completely random.
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 01:57 PM
Steppir antennas are ridiculously heavy! (but they sure kick A$$!!!) The one they had at the Visalia DX Convention weight 240 lbs!!!!! How in the world do you carry one of those up a tower to implant?
U would need a crane for sure, and a MASSIVE tower with plenty of guys to hold that up! If it ever fell, it would cut a house in half like warm butter! I am sick of using a vertical for the WARC bands, and need a good WARC antenna now. The options are few. There is the Cushcrudd A3WS witha 30M addon kit. Also the MFJ-1775W which is just a rotatable dipole. But that might work better than the R5 vertical I have now. I have tried using the KT-34 which is no where near resonant on the WARC bands, but it sometimes works better than the R5. So I need an ALL-IN-ONE antenna for 40-10 that can be held up on a roof tower. hmmm.........
For the love of God, I can't figure why people would:
Deliberately jam them
Unintentionally jam them by tuning up
Seems just so childish, but this is happening on 40m right now.
Add to that list: making it impossible for other stations to hear the DX by engaging in a profane and childish argument on top of the DX; all the while transmitting completely out of the US band :mad:
hahah. lightning is not your friend (or heavy ice, high wind, or spiders)
Really?
SteppIRs actually fare better than aluminum antennas in that regard.
I've had 3 ice storms here, 60-80mph winds (Irene) and the fiberglass just sagged a lot but the antenna was fine. Did I mention I was still able to operate? No need for a tuner either. I just trimmed back the elements using the controller. "The perfect match."
Lightning is not a problem. Just retract the elements and I'm good to go (in addition to proper ground/bond).
K7JBQ
05-02-2012, 02:45 PM
Pssst, Pat...
Hexbeam.
73,
Bill
So I need an ALL-IN-ONE antenna for 40-10 that can be held up on a roof tower. hmmm.........
Really?
SteppIRs actually fare better than aluminum antennas in that regard.
I've had 3 ice storms here, 60-80mph winds (Irene) and the fiberglass just sagged a lot but the antenna was fine. Did I mention I was still able to operate? No need for a tuner either. I just trimmed back the elements using the controller. "The perfect match."
i know quite a few SteppIR owners that have sold them "as-is" due to their inability to survive in the Mid Atlantic region.
Add to that list: making it impossible for other stations to hear the DX by engaging in a profane and childish argument on top of the DX; all the while transmitting completely out of the US band :mad:
they are within the band, just not the phone sub-band.
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 02:51 PM
Maybe I will bring home a HEXBEAM from Dayton, if I can score a good deal on one. Will see how I can transport it in the town car considering Sister Mary Eggroll will be along! Might hafta put her on a PLANE to ship her back (especially if she is CRABBY!!!!)
i know quite a few SteppIR owners that have sold them "as-is" due to their inability to survive in the Mid Atlantic region.
Mid Atlantic, you mean where I live.
Sounds like you don't know a lot of people, or they just had bad luck.
I hear a lot of stuff a lot of guys don't hear... maybe it's due to the antenna, maybe not. But I do like switching 180 instantly.
Krassy K1LZ has MonstIR stacks. I don't recall him having to do major work due to weather.
Keep in mind they are working a fairly large split most of the time, 10 kHz or more. You don't need big antennas and power as much as the luck of transmitting right where they are listening. Listen for the guy they just worked and pounce on that frequency!
Nope. Go near that frequency if you are doing that, otherwise it is best to just park somewhere and keep calling until they find you.
As I've seen on DXpedition videos, these guys basically call CQ or QRZ then go tuning around like they're doing S&P.
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 03:24 PM
One thing I sure noticed about this DXpedition. They have this attitude that if U can't copy 35-40WPM, you probably don't DESERVE the contact!!! When trying to work them on 17 last night, their sig (the best I have heard them!) was a watery buzz. Had it been slower code, I probably could have heard my call coming back. But NO!!!! It was a BUZZZZZZZZZ each time and trying to decipher it was hopeless! I can copy my call pretty fast these days, but not THIS fast! What is the HURRY?!!!! It is all computer sent code anyway, which I am doing too. I have mine set at 20WPM to send my call in perfect code. Slow enough that there should be no problem at copying it, but fast enough so as to not be too slow. But what is with this 40WPM stuff? They must have the speed control FULLY CLOCKWISE!!!!
Maybe they answered me, I don't know. ALL I heard was a BUZZZZZZZZZZZ
That's not true at all, Pat.
Sounds like you don't know a lot of people, or they just had bad luck.
the PVRC reflector is pretty big.
they are within the band, just not the phone sub-band.
Oh yah, that's right well that's OK then. I don't see how that is less of a transgression though.
On 20 SSB, the op sat on the edges of the split range and rarely tuned within it...i.e. Listening 14/160 to 170. Worked a bunch on 170 and then went to 160. Worked him there on the first call, that is, after they got around to my call area...
On CW, one ops works them about 2-3 up and the other is anything goes. Sometimes up 10-15 and then up 1. So sitting may or may not work, but I did hear a few working them after they found where the previous Q was and called and got worked. I think it is most about them hearing you. The pile up is pretty bad and going call areas, works on SSB, but not sure how it will help on CW.
the PVRC reflector is pretty big.
If anyone is selling their antennas "as-is" and cheap, let me know!
Oh yah, that's right well that's OK then. I don't see how that is less of a transgression though.
the FCC doesn't care, why should we?
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 04:41 PM
Pssst, Pat...
Hexbeam.
73,
Bill Anybody have a cost estimate on hombrewing one of these? I been watching the different threads. I just looked at a kit website and the kit was $800
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 04:41 PM
The BEST High speed CW OPs in the world will get through first. Then, as the days drag on, they can pick up the slower DREGs of the CW world like me.
WB3BEL
05-02-2012, 04:53 PM
Anybody have a cost estimate on hombrewing one of these? I been watching the different threads. I just looked at a kit website and the kit was $800
K4KIO antenna is about $650
Dxengineering antenna kit is about $600
Cost to homebrew depends on your junkbox. Might be $0 or might be $300-500.
Either of these two kits is actually a pretty good deal if you don't have a good workshop and access to some of the key materials. On the other hand if you want to build something that lasts one season out of plywood scraps, bamboo poles and old CAT5 cable you probably could make it for nothing...
The BEST High speed CW OPs in the world will get through first. Then, as the days drag on, they can pick up the slower DREGs of the CW world like me.
Not at all, Pat.
Got a memory keyer?
You think everyone in the pileups is using a J-38???
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 05:13 PM
K4KIO antenna is about $650
Dxengineering antenna kit is about $600
Cost to homebrew depends on your junkbox. Might be $0 or might be $300-500.
Either of these two kits is actually a pretty good deal if you don't have a good workshop and access to some of the key materials. On the other hand if you want to build something that lasts one season out of plywood scraps, bamboo poles and old CAT5 cable you probably could make it for nothing... That's why I was thinking Kit I'm not sure how long spare parts would hold up
Work call areas on CW?? Come on...hundreds can't even figure out that you need to work split !! ;)
I continue to be surprised by the idiots that can't figure that out---where have they been? Oh, yeah, lets tune up the AMP right here too, while we're already zero beat...
So easy a caveman can do it!
KU8L
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 05:19 PM
I am using a MFJ memory keyer to send my callsign over and over, but then when I get answered, I send on my J-38.
I am using a MFJ memory keyer to send my callsign over and over, but then when I get answered, I send on my J-38.
That would mess me up, if I were on the other end of the pileup--I'd be listening for something that sounded exactly like that memory keyer--certainly not a straight key.
One thing I sure noticed about this DXpedition. They have this attitude that if U can't copy 35-40WPM, you probably don't DESERVE the contact!!! When trying to work them on 17 last night, their sig (the best I have heard them!) was a watery buzz. Had it been slower code, I probably could have heard my call coming back. But NO!!!! It was a BUZZZZZZZZZ each time and trying to decipher it was hopeless! I can copy my call pretty fast these days, but not THIS fast! What is the HURRY?!!!! It is all computer sent code anyway, which I am doing too. I have mine set at 20WPM to send my call in perfect code. Slow enough that there should be no problem at copying it, but fast enough so as to not be too slow. But what is with this 40WPM stuff? They must have the speed control FULLY CLOCKWISE!!!!
Maybe they answered me, I don't know. ALL I heard was a BUZZZZZZZZZZZ
Remember that if they are sending by computer, it's easily copyable by computer if the signal is strong enough. That's what I've been doing because I can barely copy my call at 40 wpm.
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 08:16 PM
Work call areas on CW?? Come on...hundreds can't even figure out that you need to work split !! ;)
I continue to be surprised by the idiots that can't figure that out---where have they been? Oh, yeah, lets tune up the AMP right here too, while we're already zero beat...
So easy a caveman can do it!
KU8L I don't think it's an accident they don't split. I think they figure, "If I call on freq long enough they'll return my call so I'll shut up"
Nope. Go near that frequency if you are doing that, otherwise it is best to just park somewhere and keep calling until they find you.
As I've seen on DXpedition videos, these guys basically call CQ or QRZ then go tuning around like they're doing S&P.
Well of course it helps to listen a bit and see what the op is doing. Like someone else noted, I have noticed an op or two listening only at the ends of the split, nothing in between. So one has to adapt to the operator. I've worked them on 10 band slots thus far, only missing 30 meters and 80 meters as the moment. So it's worked fairly well for me.
...........Bob
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 08:53 PM
My MFJ keyer is exactly in parallel with the hand key so they will be exactly on the same frequency.. When I figure out how to do it again, I will program one memory to say:
"R R 5NN TU"
I don't get to press that button very often! Also need to program one button to send my call twice. I need a REMOTE for my buttons! I have to reach up high to get at them. Need a remote button bank right next to my key. (but gotta be careful the CAT doesn't walk on it!)
Pat they are loud on 15 meters SSB and was just calling for West Coast a bit ago. On another note, it appears they are NOT working 10 meter CW. That slot is missing from the log and no QSOs are in their log on 10 CW. I wonder why??
............Bob
KD8FYI
05-02-2012, 09:05 PM
They are working central states (0's and 5's) on 15 meters now, Go for it gang!
73's and have fun!
Ed
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 09:11 PM
I'll be darned if I could find the split He said he's looking west coast now
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 09:15 PM
I can't get off work for 2 more hours!!!
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 10:35 PM
On the reports that the 7O was working West Coast on 15, I found an excuse to leave the plant (had to go to Radio Shack and pick up some connectors). I took a little DETOUR, via CREST, and rushed into MY Radio Shack. Tuned to 21295. NOT A MFing PEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tuned to 21024. He might have been there, but once again, 1000 CLOWNS on his transmit frequency. Same with 14024. Notta peep on 14145 either.
I rushed down to the Radio Shack store and got the parts I needed for the company work. Also got the switches I needed to build the REMOTE SWITCHDECK for the MFJ-464 keyer!
Tonight is the SINK DE MAYO dinner at the Crest Clubhouse. Will see if anything is happening after that.
Beginning to believe that the 7O is just a MYTH!
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 10:49 PM
On the reports that the 7O was working West Coast on 15, I found an excuse to leave the plant (had to go to Radio Shack and pick up some connectors). I took a little DETOUR, via CREST, and rushed into MY Radio Shack. Tuned to 21295. NOT A MFing PEEP!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tuned to 21024. He might have been there, but once again, 1000 CLOWNS on his transmit frequency. Same with 14024. Notta peep on 14145 either.
I rushed down to the Radio Shack store and got the parts I needed for the company work. Also got the switches I needed to build the REMOTE SWITCHDECK for the MFJ-464 keyer!
Tonight is the SINK DE MAYO dinner at the Crest Clubhouse. Will see if anything is happening after that.
Beginning to believe that the 7O is just a MYTH!he's working west coast SSB on 17 18.145
WA6MHZ
05-02-2012, 11:14 PM
(and I am back at WORK!!!!)
They are doing this JUST to torture me!!!
W5BIB
05-02-2012, 11:30 PM
(and I am back at WORK!!!!)
They are doing this JUST to torture me!!! Gotta love it!!! :p
KE4KY
05-02-2012, 11:37 PM
Just now worked on 15m CW...
Some great CW ops!
K9ASE
05-02-2012, 11:43 PM
they're on 15 SSB looking for West coast again
WA6MHZ
05-03-2012, 12:05 AM
I was IN THERE this time, and he was GREAT COPY!!!!
(but I still didn't make it, even with 2KW!)
KC7YRA
05-03-2012, 12:10 AM
Thinned out LOTS!! Still many hundreds call, but instead of a CW pileup being 25khz wide, it is only 10. SSB is only 15khz as opposed to 30.
Just caught them on 15 ssb and CW within about 10 minutes.
COME ON PAT!!!!
You can get them!!!
Brad
K9ASE
05-03-2012, 12:31 AM
I was IN THERE this time, and he was GREAT COPY!!!!
(but I still didn't make it, even with 2KW!) I still haven't got them either. I'm a pipsqueak in the pile. But, I'm patient and play by the rules so I should get them
Haven't had any shot on 40...QRN is high and they are on for E Coast...their time doesn't favor most of the country...at least at these times they were on...
Heard them on 17, gud signal...
Just got them a bit ago on 40 SSB to complete all band slots except 80 and 30. Cool!!!
Just popped 40 cw. Didn't take too long but I missed 40 phone. Hopefully tomorrow :)
And now they're begging for West Coast NA on 20 SSB.
I'm not a fan of working "by the numbers" at all.
Amateurs living in Cambodia, Switzerland, Luxemburg, St. Helena, Ascension, Lichtenstein, etc must tear their hair out waiting for their single call district number to come up.
Then POOF, wait for the whole cycle to repeat its self. All the while hoping that propagation hasn't changed while slugging it out with every DL7, DL9 or IA7 under the sun.
Tom KCØW
Right now they're not really working by the numbers on 20 ssb. They're alternating between VK/ZL and US West Coast.
AB8MA
05-03-2012, 02:55 AM
Well, what do you know. I get them on 20 CW, and their web site goes down.
Well, what do you know. I get them on 20 CW, and their web site goes down.
The online log is hosted on clublog, so go to www.clublog.org and check under expeditions for 7O6T.
However, they haven't uploaded anything after 05/01 around 2100z.
Hearing so many American callsigns and voices on 14.145. Fairly sure they're not Canadians... even if they were some of the KC cops aren't IDing.
It's been a while since I passed the exam but wasn't it required to learn where you can and cannot transmit? Isn't it illegal not to ID?
And those that do ID, if the DX says "listening xxx to yyy" do you think he'll answer when you transmit on his freq illegally???
Sometimes I wonder.
Listening West Coast NOW Pat!!
AC0FP
05-03-2012, 03:34 AM
Hearing so many American callsigns and voices on 14.145. Fairly sure they're not Canadians... even if they were some of the KC cops aren't IDing.
It's been a while since I passed the exam but wasn't it required to learn where you can and cannot transmit? Isn't it illegal not to ID?
And those that do ID, if the DX says "listening xxx to yyy" do you think he'll answer when you transmit on his freq illegally???
Sometimes I wonder.This just indicates the band limits are just being stretched now days.
I heard two stations having a USB QSO today, a W0 and a W6 (not new guys) on 18.167 MHz!
fp
KB2FCV
05-03-2012, 02:35 PM
I finally worked them!!
I've been trying since Monday... put in about 12-15 hours over the last few nights before I finally got them on 17. Oddly enough, I just switched to 17 cw, tuned up, listened. I sent my call once or twice.. came right back to me! Definitely just dumb luck there. I also went on to work them on 17m phone which took maybe 45 mins of calling. I think I'll take a night or two off before trying a few other band/mode slots. Some great ops they have there, fantastic signals and a huge amount of QSO's they're making!
15m cw, 17m cw and ssb, 20m ssb so far. gonna try for 20m and 40m cw tonight. 40m ssb is unlikely for my low dipole.
Pretty impressive!
I got 17 cw (early on), 15 cw, 20 ssb and cw and 40 cw.
I get about an hour of DXing when I get home, sometimes less.
Pretty impressive!
I got 17 cw (early on), 15 cw, 20 ssb and cw and 40 cw.
I get about an hour of DXing when I get home, sometimes less.
i had some time after dinner to try and work them on 20m SSB. i spent 20 minutes listening for where he was working trying to edge out others. with 2 minutes until i had to leave i just spun the knob down as he said "up" and fired away. he came right back to me. dumb luck for the win.
the 17m SSB QSO took about 5 minutes to get. 20m CW has been tough - i need to get on it right when i get home today. 40m CW is going to be tough - low dipole is low - great in SS, not so great for massive DX pileup in Middle East
WA6MHZ
05-03-2012, 05:07 PM
Listening West Coast NOW Pat!!
I am at work again!
I listened a while yesterday and the CW pile is hilarious!
Note to the pileup police, UP is sent as di-di-dah...di-dah-dah-dit not di-di-di-dah (V for the great unwashed)...di-dah-dah (W)..................dit (and a lazy E).
Bug get stuck on that last dah there Barney?
WA6MHZ
05-03-2012, 05:09 PM
I heard them really good on 15M SSB around 4:30PM West Coast time, so I will try that again. That seems to be my best shot. Also, when they are LISTENNING for West Coast doesn't always mean they have propagation to the West Coast. (as I found out yesterday afternoon on 17M)
I am at work again!
Bummer!
7O6T 24.945/955 16:19 05/03/2012
KC7YRA
05-03-2012, 05:48 PM
Tell the boss you have leprosy Pat. Get a day off.
Brad
WA6MHZ
05-03-2012, 07:40 PM
He is coming back tomorrow, so there will be HE// to pay for the week he has been gone.
I find that EVERY decision I make here is the WRONG one. When he is gone, I have to decide what to do. NEVER EVER is it correct, and he has KITTENS about what I do. He also has kittens about me not doing what he thinks he told me to do even though he never told me. Or, for doing what he told me to do, and then he changes his mind and I should NOT have done what he told me to do!
So, Saturday I am going to sit by the radio until I am IN THE LOG! Sunday I have CHurch and a QCWA meeting to run (I am the Chapter President so I can't ditch it! I am also supplying the program!!!) But that will be over by 1PM, so it will be BACK to the rig to PRAY that we have an openning to 7O. The one yesterday would have worked, but there were 20 stronger 6s than me who got in the log. They were running MEGAWATTS and STACKED MONOBANDERS! But once THEY are all in the log, and have their insurance contacts, the next level of WEAKER station can start to get through. I have to HOPE I will be there to get into that group. Next week is the DAYTON TRIP Prep with launch on the weekend. I may put it off til Sunday or Monday to get more chances to LOG THIS DX!!! That means I will hafta HAUL A$$ to Dayton to make it on time! Maybe even let the good chaste wife drive for awhile. But, letting her drive...... I might wake up and find we are halfway to SEATTLE instead!
A LOT of 6's and 7's worked them yesterday on 17 when they were listening for the west coast. I know from experience that conditions are not the same in San Diego and Northeast Oregon where I am---but, they were 20 over here and i worked them easily.
K9ASE
05-03-2012, 11:28 PM
Do these guys work at night? Maybe, the morons will need their beauty sleep and it will be easier to work them.
WB2WIK
05-04-2012, 02:21 AM
Worked 'em easily on 17m SSB at 0124UTC. Just took two calls.
I like to wait to near the "end" of expeditions, when they're starving for contacts.:o
Trying to work any rare expedition on the first day seems silly to me.:p
Hang in there Pat...it has been really rought with the lower band stations working the east coast like crazy and EU...but occassionally, some in my area get thru and west coast ops...rough with all the lids, jammers, and idiots that love to play cops...
GL...
I think many times the three stooges trying to work them would have better luck with the stooges out there....LOL
i worked them in less than a minute on 20m CW just a little bit ago and a few minutes later K3LID worked 7O6T on 20M CW
Trying to work any rare expedition on the first day seems silly to me.:p
only took me 30 minutes on 15m cw the first 30 minutes they were active. i guess i'm a serious DX'er now. if only i heard 9M0L i know i could have worked them ;)
Been working my tail off at work, engineering and last minute details for the Alaska summer telecom install season... sorta outta pocket per se.
I can barely hear them on 20 M right now. Need to check 40 M, and other bands.
Darn!
Hopefully I'll be able to work them at some point.
Hopefully I'll be able to work them at some point.
i hope you can get them!
KB2FCV
05-04-2012, 04:58 AM
Congrats Pat, I see your call in the log for 17m.
I also saw my 2 Q's from last night, yay!!! :cool:
"Sorry Dude, must have bumped the dial"....
must have happened to a few...as I heard the DX (through the cops, jammers, lids, etc.) calling stations that never came back. Likely, they called, turned the dial, DX responded, they now are on a different frequency....
Gotta suck when that happens....
It was really rough last nite, with the DX working NA, EU, JA and other regions at the same time, along with jerks jamming, cops jamming, etc. Gotta wonder about some folks...
Hope Pat made his initial QSO or a couple...
I worked them the other day on 17 SSB , barefoot. One nice thing about 17, 15 meters. When you hear them well, other areas may not and you have a decent shot, at least a better one, then you will have on 20, 30, or 40 (if so lucky).
Hopefully, the pile will dwindle a bit more in the next few days, but everyone I have spoken to, admit, hard, rough to make a Q with them....on many bands...
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 03:02 PM
No I didn't work them yet! Don't know HOW I got in the log! There seems to be people bootlegging my call in every pileup for some reason.
I DID work the PY0FM on Fernado De Norha last night on 15 CW!
SOAB.... they got my call wrong on my 12m QSO. They have it as KG3N. :(
Guess I'll have to try again.
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 03:17 PM
Now, I DID CALL on 17 SSB last night, maybe they heard me, logged me and their reply to me got JAMMED OUT by RBs. Usually they wait for me to go "QSL YOU ARE 5-9" before they enter me into the log! So I have no idea what time the QSO was made. Just SOMETIME yesterday, and "SOMETIME" isn't close enough to call it a GOOD QSO. Will still hafta keep trying. This weekend is DEVOTED to the HUNT! I will be BY THE RADIO 24/7 until I FINALLY get a contact. IF or WHEN that happens, THEN and ONLY THEN can my life be taken off of HOLD and I can get on with it. But for right now, LOGGING THIS CONTACT is the most IMPORTANT THING IN THE WORLD for me!! Yes, it is THAT IMPORTANT!!!! Because, not likely anyone will ever go there again in MY lifetime!
I will attribute the LOSS if I don't make it to NOT having a good WARC BAND beam, and not having the 4th element on the KT-34. I did everything ELSE right (except take off work all week). Others in my San Diego DX Club are IN the log!
K9ASE
05-04-2012, 03:36 PM
I'm with you on the WARC band antenna. I'm hearing them best there. But, I don't have an antenna that transmits well there.
KB1UJS
05-04-2012, 03:46 PM
I'm with you on the WARC band antenna. I'm hearing them best there. But, I don't have an antenna that transmits well there.
It seems that 17 and 15 are working out the best for a lot of US hams. According to 7O6T's log, 55% of their NA contacts have been on 17 or 15. Sigs have been strong, approaching S9, on 17 and 15 on my little GAP Titan vertical. I worked them on 17 SSB with 600 watts the third afternoon of the DXpedition. I'd like to get them on 15 and 20 as well - we'll see.
Ken
It seems that 17 and 15 are working out the best for a lot of US hams. According to 7O6T's log, 55% of their NA contacts have been on 17 or 15. Sigs have been strong, approaching S9, on 17 and 15 on my little GAP Titan vertical. I worked them on 17 SSB with 600 watts the third afternoon of the DXpedition. I'd like to get them on 15 and 20 as well - we'll see.
Ken
15 is good because it still has good propagation to NA when it closes to EU in our evening time after 2200z. So there's less of a EU wall.
17 also does the same thing to a lesser extent except that it closes out to EU more around midnight.
SOAB.... they got my call wrong on my 12m QSO. They have it as KG3N. :(
Guess I'll have to try again.
KEELO JAPAN, KEEEELO JAPAN, KEEEEELO JAPAN THREE NOVEMBER
Screaming my lungs out is one more reason why I'm hating phone DXing.
I'm with you on the WARC band antenna. I'm hearing them best there. But, I don't have an antenna that transmits well there.
One more reason SteppIR rocks. WARC bands are included at no additional cost.
K9ASE
05-04-2012, 05:30 PM
One more reason SteppIR rocks. WARC bands are included at no additional cost. "That's it honey we're trading in the car on a SteppIR and tower. I just have to work Yemen:)
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 05:33 PM
Atleast CW DXing is easy. I just press a button over and over to send my call, wait and listen; and if I get answered, press another button for a reply. Not using alot of energy this way, unlike getting hoarse on PHONE! But then, I DO have a VOICE KEYER I need to hook up.
Ham Radio is so CHANGED these days!
I am looking forward to the day it is all automatic. Set the radio to hunt and call the DX, go watch TV and come back to see if I worked them yet!
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 05:36 PM
One more reason SteppIR rocks. WARC bands are included at no additional cost.
I just can't get over the WEIGHT of the thing. TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY POUNDS!!!
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 05:39 PM
"That's it honey we're trading in the car on a SteppIR and tower. I just have to work Yemen:)
More like taking a 2nd Mortgage out on the house!! U are looking at around TWENTY GRAND for the system U need!
I just can't get over the WEIGHT of the thing. TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY POUNDS!!!
Pat that one is the largest one they have. My 4-element SteppIR is less than 100lbs. They have many different models.
........Bob
K9ASE
05-04-2012, 05:42 PM
Pat that one is the largest one they have. My 4-element SteppIR is less than 100lbs. They have many different models.
........BobThey have a vertical also. I wonder how that works
Just worked them on 17 SSB at 1743 UTC. They have had a good signal S7-S9 all morning since about 1600 UTC when I started listening to them. That is by far the best I have heard them on SSB. They just started working NA so I jumped in and it only took a couple calls.
A friend of mine worked them at 1600 UTC a couple days ago on 17 with ease and good signals so I thought I'd give it a go.
It may be a very good time for the west coast to listen for them.
Good luck to all trying!
I just can't get over the WEIGHT of the thing. TWO HUNDRED AND FORTY POUNDS!!!
YOu can get a lighter one. I think the 3el is just 90#
They have a vertical also. I wonder how that works
The team who went to lord howe last year tried to use one and they couldn't get it to work.
Some people have it and they love it.
I never used one but I'd imagine that if you have one you need a good amount of radials for it to work properly.
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 06:24 PM
My R5 generally works as it is RESONANT for the band of desire, but that doesn't mean it works WELL. And for very WEAK signals like the 7O, you need a KICKA$$ ANTENNA like a Steppir Monstir or atleast a beam on WARC. I was thinking of getting the MFJ Rotatable WARC Dipole, but not sure that would work that much better than the R5 Vertical.
Unfortunately, WHATEVER I change will be TOO LATE for the 7O. I need results RIGHT NOW! in 10 days, I will be SOL! (but Atleast ready for the NEXT Trendy DXpedition. Need someone to go to E4 again!)
Wow..wow wow...all I can say is wow. I'm not big on DXpeditions, but, had the day off
and figured ,what the heck. Now I know why I don't care for DXpeditions...every lid
in the world is out...wow!! Sorry, but those that complain about contests...you have no idea...
Contests are as tame as can be compared to what I just listened to...darn, I want 2 hours of my life back!!
What a mess.
N6OIL
05-04-2012, 09:08 PM
So I see that WA3JPY worked them on 6m, what the heck? Not even a peep on 10. How the did that happen, maybe he did it from his airplane!
I just got back from a four-day business trip. The local contest club reflector was abuzz with commentary on how proficient this group was.
Fired up the radio and within 45 minutes, had them on 15, 17 and 20. Will try the low bands tonight.
WA6MHZ
05-04-2012, 10:55 PM
This is one of those "EASY for East Coast, a BEAR for West Coast" ones. Payback for T32C! I got them on 24 band modes!
Pat they are on 17 meters now...out of curiosity, saw you had a Q on 17...great....
They are loud enough to be over the lids and cops..
I just got back from a four-day business trip. The local contest club reflector was abuzz with commentary on how proficient this group was.
Fired up the radio and within 45 minutes, had them on 15, 17 and 20. Will try the low bands tonight.
Got them on Cw and SSB quickly too, but, had to laugh at all the "crows" squawking on .145...split, split..up up up. idiot idiot,true comedy...
Funny thing is..they all sounded American...mmmm???
One more reason SteppIR rocks. WARC bands are included at no additional cost.
my free TA53M includes the WARC bands at no cost as well ;)
WA6MHZ
05-05-2012, 12:52 AM
Pat they are on 17 meters now...out of curiosity, saw you had a Q on 17...great....
They are loud enough to be over the lids and cops..
wasnt me. Someone bootlegged my call
Just worked them on 20m phone and CW with my 100 watts and wire antenna.
I was 5 and 9 on both :)
Of course if everyone was running 100w or less, I'm sure they'd work just as many qsos.
WA4OTD
05-05-2012, 01:40 AM
YAH Hooooh, just got them on 20M. 50 watts and attic dipole busts through! I have to see it in the log now before I can relax!
Now for a few more bands....
WA6MHZ
05-05-2012, 01:42 AM
No copy in SoCal on20M
KC7YRA
05-05-2012, 02:08 AM
Well I just heard WA6MHZ calling the pileup on 20meter ssb. Was that you Pat or somebody else.
Brad
KB2FCV
05-05-2012, 03:11 AM
wasnt me. Someone bootlegged my call
Maybe someone is planning to hold the QSO details for ransom. The time and date of the QSO in exchange for some radio gear..
WA6MHZ
05-05-2012, 03:33 AM
Well I just heard WA6MHZ calling the pileup on 20meter ssb. Was that you Pat or somebody else.
Brad
No, I have been upstairs here watching TV! See, some RB is bootlegging my call!
But at least in a good way...Hi.
Did you try 17 Pat? Heard them working some left coast stations..much less idiot cops on there..
I just got back from a four-day business trip. The local contest club reflector was abuzz with commentary on how proficient this group was.
Fired up the radio and within 45 minutes, had them on 15, 17 and 20. Will try the low bands tonight.
The first night was incredible. I mean, pileups like I've never seen.
However, I did get 15 and 17 in the log within 45 minutes as well. :)
Part of that is because they won't /don't get on when the prop is optimum here...so they work EU and Asia...but not NA and when they do, there isn't the prop (wrong time of the day). So for a new one, yeah, 17 and 15 work better...but some need a low band QSO but good luck on that from anywhere in the areas west of the Mississippi...
Anyway, keep pluggin....
WA6MHZ
05-05-2012, 03:47 AM
i keep running downstairs every once in awhile and checking for propogation. The one time I DID hear them good was on 15 about 5PM. They haven't returned there since. On CW, they are always completely buried under RBs calling on their frequency so i can't pull them out from under it. The RBs keep calling and calling and completely drown them out. I am surprized they make ANY CW Contacts!
WA4OTD
05-05-2012, 03:52 AM
I guess it is to be expected that there are many idiots that clutter up the frequency where they are.
i keep running downstairs every once in awhile and checking for propogation. The one time I DID hear them good was on 15 about 5PM. They haven't returned there since. On CW, they are always completely buried under RBs calling on their frequency so i can't pull them out from under it. The RBs keep calling and calling and completely drown them out. I am surprized they make ANY CW Contacts!
KC2SIZ
05-05-2012, 04:11 AM
Wow..wow wow...all I can say is wow. I'm not big on DXpeditions, but, had the day off
and figured ,what the heck. Now I know why I don't care for DXpeditions...every lid
in the world is out...wow!! Sorry, but those that complain about contests...you have no idea...
Contests are as tame as can be compared to what I just listened to...darn, I want 2 hours of my life back!!
What a mess.
You're absolutely right. You don't need to listen to that silliness. No one does. Just wait a few days and see if things get better. If not, there's plenty of other DX out there...
i keep running downstairs every once in awhile and checking for propogation. The one time I DID hear them good was on 15 about 5PM. They haven't returned there since. On CW, they are always completely buried under RBs calling on their frequency so i can't pull them out from under it. The RBs keep calling and calling and completely drown them out. I am surprized they make ANY CW Contacts!
Online log updated, and you are in the log for 17 phone.
If not, there's plenty of other DX out there...
But there's not plenty other top 5 MWL.
Sounds like you have a cult following Pat (MHZ) as they are looking out for you...Hi.
I doubt it would make any difference about your Q. Send them a card, put a time on it for that particular day that it was, they computer log so they look up based upon your call and print out your card, and chuck yours as they won't be collecting QSLs.
I just wish they would get on the other bands so more in the NA region could have an opportunity. In the AM I would like to try 40 or later in the morning, 12/10 but they always seem to get on at the wrong prop times, or either focus on East Coast that would be easy to hear and when it starts to open, they QSY. I suppose having any Q is okay, but I sure would like a 10 meter and 40 Meter QSO. Ain't going to happen I think....
But good luck Pat...keep at it, you will work them as they have been taking special time on 17 to listen and work West Coast and have been able to work a few....
WA8UEG
05-05-2012, 01:14 PM
Remember when sending QSL's they only accept IRC, don't waist the green stamps. Probably best to wait till they post more detailed info on QSL's, who knows these days, they may require 2 or 3 IRC's. Let's just hope they don't wait a year to upload to LOTW.
I hope they aren't IRCs. My stupid postal people here, have no idea what an IRC is, even after I show them on, explain how they work...deer i headlights followed by "we sell those".....
Almost as bad a Radio Shack....
WA8UEG
05-05-2012, 02:11 PM
I have the same problem with IRC's, I get the deer in the headlight look everytime followed by 45 minutes of calls and going through manuals then they have to order them but yes they will only except IRC's no green stamps.
WW3QB
05-05-2012, 02:56 PM
I hope they aren't IRCs. My stupid postal people here, have no idea what an IRC is, even after I show them on, explain how they work...deer i headlights followed by "we sell those".....
Almost as bad a Radio Shack....
Order IRCs online at https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?productId=S_330900&categoryId=subcatMSS_International
KC2SIZ
05-05-2012, 03:14 PM
But there's not plenty other top 5 MWL.
No doubt about it, if you're really into it for the certificate, you'll just have to be prepared to squander your weekend.
KD0CAC
05-05-2012, 03:22 PM
I can hear them on 17m on my end , but light .
Problem is , my amp [ Yaesu FL-2100B ] does not do 17m .
Another reason to get a new amp with more bands .
doggy dew
A transmission in my truck seems to have more priority , thats not right :)
K9ASE
05-05-2012, 03:33 PM
hey Pat sounds like they're working west coast on 17M
KC7YRA
05-05-2012, 03:51 PM
I think we sould watch Pat on APRS and every time his vehicle leaves his house, we'll blow up the thread here about how the DX is working QRP California stations on all bands with indoor dipoles.
Of course, it will stop when he is returning home and is only a block away!!!
Brad
Part of that is because they won't /don't get on when the prop is optimum here...so they work EU and Asia...but not NA and when they do, there isn't the prop (wrong time of the day). So for a new one, yeah, 17 and 15 work better...but some need a low band QSO but good luck on that from anywhere in the areas west of the Mississippi...
Anyway, keep pluggin....
According to their log searches, there are W5s who have worked them on 12 or 15 different band slots.
I can hear them on 17m on my end , but light .
Problem is , my amp [ Yaesu FL-2100B ] does not do 17m .
Another reason to get a new amp with more bands .
doggy dew
A transmission in my truck seems to have more priority , thats not right :)
Is there a band position switch for it. No. Can you tune it on 17. Possibly. I tune my SB200 on 17 meters all the time (using the 15 meter band position) and tune with the autotuner in my transceiver.
WA8UEG
05-05-2012, 04:31 PM
Order IRCs online at https://store.usps.com/store/browse/productDetailSingleSku.jsp?productId=S_330900&categoryId=subcatMSS_International
NICE, thanks.
No doubt about it, if you're really into it for the certificate, you'll just have to be prepared to squander your weekend.
Or if you're geared up well, about 20 minutes.
WA6MHZ
05-05-2012, 04:50 PM
almost hearing them on 12M right now, just need another few dB of signal!!
DARN, do I need a WARC Band beam!!!!!