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KK7EL
04-18-2012, 03:29 PM
I wish more DX used LoTW. However, I remember it was a pain to set up, so maybe that is why more do not use it? Loved getting 9 new countries via LoTW after dabbling in the CQ WPX contest for only a few hours.

KJ4VTH
04-18-2012, 10:46 PM
I was impressed that many did upload within days of the contest; put me over 101 entities on LoTW which is close to my personal count of 133.

KA7O
04-18-2012, 10:54 PM
LoTW is a bit "different" to setup, specially for operators licensed outside the US. But, I don't think I'd go so far as to call it a 'pain'. It just takes time, and carefully following the published instructions. Attempts at short-cuts or 'better ideas' will break things.

Now that some of the Linux distros (I know Fedora does) are including the TrustedSQL applications and associated libraries in their repositories, it's becoming much easier to install.

On the Windows side, LoTW functionality has been built into many of the "monolith' software packages - once setup, it's as simple to use as any other logging software. Easier, in that it also does the QSLing for you!

Similar "all in oneness" - as far as logging goes, is available to Linux users as well - see CQRLog http://www.cqrlog.com/help/h1.html#bh4

KD8FYI
04-18-2012, 11:08 PM
LoTW is a bit "different" to setup, specially for operators licensed outside the US. But, I don't think I'd go so far as to call it a 'pain'. It just takes time, and carefully following the published instructions. Attempts at short-cuts or 'better ideas' will break things.

Now that some of the Linux distros (I know Fedora does) are including the TrustedSQL applications and associated libraries in their repositories, it's becoming much easier to install.

On the Windows side, LoTW functionality has been built into many of the "monolith' software packages - once setup, it's as simple to use as any other logging software. Easier, in that it also does the QSLing for you!

Similar "all in oneness" - as far as logging goes, is available to Linux users as well - see CQRLog http://www.cqrlog.com/help/h1.html#bh4

Hey, I'll have to look at CQRLog. Thanks!

73,
Ed

KB9ZES
04-18-2012, 11:53 PM
When someone comes up with a book: How to use LoTW for Dummies, maybe then I'll understand how to send, convert, add, load and all the other stuff.

W4PG
04-18-2012, 11:57 PM
I wish more DX used LoTW. However, I remember it was a pain to set up, so maybe that is why more do not use it? Loved getting 9 new countries via LoTW after dabbling in the CQ WPX contest for only a few hours.

My general hit rate for LoTW is about 25% at best, but that rises to almost 50% with major DX contests. The best way to get DX confirmed via LoTW is to work the major DX contests.

..............Bob

KE5MC
04-19-2012, 01:50 PM
At the bottom of the page is the dummy book (PDF file) I used. There is an implied or direct step-by-step to follow and I don't recall which. You will not complete the process at one sitting at the computer. I don't always know the why or what of a step. Don't really matter, I just did it.

Take the process of sending a SASE QSL card (+ cost) and break it down into the steps needed from completed QSO to dropping the card into the mail box. The correct size envelopes, correct address on the correct envelope etc... No guarantee you will get the card back after spending time and money for each contact.

For LoTW once I am ready to upload/send a file it can contain 1 or hundreds of contacts. Same effort no cost. Ok, so I don't get a paper QSL card which might arrive in 6 months or 6 year or never. If you do want a card and have the QSL in LoTW then send a SASE card and I would bet you have a high success rate.

Just the other day I got a LoTW QSL that I was not sure of until I realized it was 2 years old under my previous call sign. Yesterday I had a QSL from a JT65 contact that was waiting for me when I upload my contact file for yesterday. When I first setup LoTW I processed the contacts in my HRD logbook and uploaded them with a 25% match rate.

The process is not hard, just a lot of steps that don't always make sense, is drawn out and you have to pay attention to each detail at that step of the process. Once I got setup it was worth it for me... maybe not others:confused:


http://www.arrl.org/logbook-of-the-world



When someone comes up with a book: How to use LoTW for Dummies, maybe then I'll understand how to send, convert, add, load and all the other stuff.

N0AZZ
04-19-2012, 02:37 PM
In the CQ WPX/SSB I picked up 39 new band countries on LoTW no new ones, love the contests and DXpeditions.

W3WN
04-19-2012, 05:02 PM
When someone comes up with a book: How to use LoTW for Dummies, maybe then I'll understand how to send, convert, add, load and all the other stuff.Logbook of the World accepts as uploads encrypted files that have been processed by the Trusted QSL (TQSL) application.

The encryption is used to ensure that only the originating station actually generated the information. It uses a two key process; that is to say, only your encryption key (password) can be used to unlock it, on the individual side; and the server has it's own key (so they never have YOUR key, so can't accidentally reveal your password).

Trusted QSL, in turn, generally processes two types of files: ADIF format, and Cabrillo (contest log) formats. Most current logging programs can generate log files in either of these formats, and there are conversion utillities for many others available as well.

So the process is actually quite simple; a touch tedious, but quite simple:

(1) Copy the portions of your station log that you want to upload into an ADIF format log, or select the appropriate Cabrillo log file from your contest software.
(2) Run the TQSL application on your machine, to wit:
(2a) Select your station location (convenient if you've moved, or operated portable, and so forth)
(2b) Select the log to encrypt (convert to .tq8 format)
(2c) Select a date rage if desired
(2d) Enter your encryption key (password)
(2e) Wait for the file to process. Note any errors that crop up, these should be fixed prior to upload
(3) Now upload the .tq8 file, in one of two ways:
(3a) Log in to the LotW server and upload the file directly
or
(3b) EMail the file to lotw-logs@arrl.org

And that's all you have to do to upload a file.

Now before you can do all that, you do have to register for an account. That gets a touch tedious, and it involves a few more steps and waiting on the mail. It's not an instant thing, and I think that's what more than a few people get over-wrought about. But that's a topic for another day. Ultimately, once your account is set up, you get sent a digital certificate ( a .tq5 file) which the TQSL program uses as part of the encryption process... that's how it knows how to set up the server-side encryption key.

And the first time you run TQSL, you have to configure your home location (including county, grid square, and so forth) so that the information is correctly conveyed when the logs are ultimately matched up on the server. Once your primary location is set up, secondary ones (contest locations -- I use this a lot when operating portable in Pa QSO -- , new locations when you move, vacation spots, to say nothing of call changes) can be added at any time.

W5DQ
04-19-2012, 11:15 PM
When someone comes up with a book: How to use LoTW for Dummies, maybe then I'll understand how to send, convert, add, load and all the other stuff.

Com'on folks .... it ISN'T rocket science or requiring an advanced enginering degree. Follow the instruction on the ARRL website TO THE LETTER and it's as easy as falling down :confused:

I've setup numerous LOTW account for ham buddies and the longest thing is waiting for the post card. If it weren't that, you should be able to do it in minutes INCLUDING UPLOADING your current log in ADIF. I use DX LAb Suite software and with it, it takes only a few seconds to upload a 1000+ QSO log after a contest. Most current software supports LOTW and eQSL. If you're having problems setting up you logging software, don't blame that on the ARRL and LOTW. Ask the vendor for customer support.

I find it hard to believe that hams who can operate sophisticated transceivers like are being used these days can't figure out how to do LOTW??????? Yet everyone raves about how easy eQSL was to setup and there is no difference in my opinion!!

WA4OTD
04-20-2012, 12:05 AM
I'm at 170 confirmed via LOTW and hav 35% hit rate for 4500 Q's. I really like LOTW.

WM3O
04-20-2012, 01:01 AM
I'm at 170 confirmed via LOTW and hav 35% hit rate for 4500 Q's. I really like LOTW.

219 confirmed - 41% LoTW QSL rate for 17678 QSO's. i love LoTW, but i also enjoy QSL cards... i have STACKS of them in my living room at the moment, anyone want some...

N2ADV
04-20-2012, 02:25 AM
I get about 18% confirmed via LoTW. It wasn't THAT hard to set up, just time consuming.

N8XE
04-20-2012, 02:27 AM
I too love LOTW, however, I have become lazy when it comes to QSL cards. I know.. I am a horrible ham..

Jason N8XE

(BTW.. got my DXCC with LOTW.. I have enough for the CW endorsement, just need to go get it.)

WA4OTD
04-20-2012, 02:38 AM
Great confirmation rate! I also love QSL cards and sometimes still send the bucks to get a DX QSL with nice QSL even if I have them confirmed in LOTW. Hard to tell people look at this check box in LOTW, however look at this QSL card from xxx is always interesting!


219 confirmed - 41% LoTW QSL rate for 17678 QSO's. i love LoTW, but i also enjoy QSL cards... i have STACKS of them in my living room at the moment, anyone want some...

WM3O
04-20-2012, 11:29 AM
Great confirmation rate! I also love QSL cards and sometimes still send the bucks to get a DX QSL with nice QSL even if I have them confirmed in LOTW. Hard to tell people look at this check box in LOTW, however look at this QSL card from xxx is always interesting!

i am a BURO card sorter and see all kinds of cards and know who to target for the really cool cards for my collection... there are some amazing cards out there.

WS2L
04-20-2012, 01:40 PM
I recently purchased the N3FJP Software bundle so that I would have a nice simple and easy to use contesting software but also the Amateur Contact Log (ACLog 3.0) which is a basic electronic logbook. I use it because it so so much easier to track what I have work and confirmed and what I need to confirm. Another feature that I find particularly useful not that I have started to use LoTW. The ACLog 3.0 with a few button clicks will convert your .tq5 file over to a .tq8 file without having to go through all the regular steps you would normally do using just the LoTW software. The ACLog not only uploads your contacts but it also downloads your confirmed files with just a few button clicks.

I am fairly new to LoTW and the N3FJP software has made it that much easier to upload/download my contacts.

W4PG
04-20-2012, 01:49 PM
The numbers I previously posted in this thread were a bit misleading. I checked the actual numbers and my hit rate on LoTW is 41% with 11,000 QSOs, all since 2005. I didn't realize it was quite that high. 251 confirmed at the moment (all LoTW). I've also gotten a bit lazy with standard QSLs. I still get a ton via the buro but I'm getting lazy at answering them. I do answer all direct ones quickly. I've got a big stack here I need to enter into HRD . . .

............Bob

UA6JD
04-20-2012, 02:48 PM
I have 19% LoTW reports from my 50K+ logged QSOs (include 5K USA QSOs -all other DX stations). )Mostly monitoring bands and very seldom CQing (mostly on JT65a).
Last one LoTW QSL was rx today - V73NS for 2007 multibands QSOs.

W1DQ
04-20-2012, 06:35 PM
More and more DXers are now participating in LOTW.

I mainly work DX. I have uploaded 19341 QSOs to LOTW and have 3080 QSL matches, or 16%. However my QSO’s date back to 1977 when I started electronic logging and hits that far back are virtually non-existent. Nonetheless, my current LOTW DXCC credits number 248 of the total of 304 worked; not bad for one who chooses not to chase paper cards.

One shortcoming of LOTW is in order to obtain a QSL match the uploaded worked station’s callsign must exactly agree in sequence as that appearing on its LOTW Certificate. For example, EA8/DK1XXX won’t electronically match with DK1XXX/EA8. There is no policy as to the sequence to use and even international regulations disagree. ARRL has said “log what you hear” but that is not dependable plus some electronic logging programs require the worked stations entity identifier to be used as the prefix. The workaround is to upload duplicates, one of each sequence; this flushes out more QSL matches.

KB9ZES
04-25-2012, 02:44 AM
Arrl give such a stupid ass reply to a question that was'nt asked and don't reply to the original question. So what good is setting up their program.

WA4OTD
04-25-2012, 03:32 AM
I always like listening to my local card checker.....everyone has this guy...always on, and extremely rare for me but sometimes he actually says nice card!... I can just feel him looking to find another station to work, like you!


i am a BURO card sorter and see all kinds of cards and know who to target for the really cool cards for my collection... there are some amazing cards out there.

W5DQ
04-26-2012, 09:43 PM
For another measure point on LOTW, my success rate is 47.2% or 8426 QSOs with 3977 QSLs.

Gene W5DQ

KF6ABU
04-26-2012, 10:09 PM
I just installed it on a new computer. Some of the steps didnt have to be taken since I already have my .p12 file, but it took all of 45 seconds to download, install, import the .p12 and configure the program. It's really not difficult.

UA6JD
04-27-2012, 05:22 AM
Last LoTW DX report include 9N7MD (Nov2011 QSOs) for multi band/mode QSOs

N0AZZ
04-27-2012, 10:56 AM
Arrl give such a stupid ass reply to a question that was'nt asked and don't reply to the original question. So what good is setting up their program.


If you work DX it boils down to the greatest thing since sliced bread and very easy to setup just read the instructions and follow them to the letter and your there.

UA0IT
04-29-2012, 07:09 AM
I have registered on LOTW in the beginning of this year, uploaded to the site of its log for 5 years, the percentage of confirmation of course not high, but almost immediately confirmed WAS TPA, designed the application in February, but the answer from the ARRL is still absent. In the letter they do not respond. Maybe someone will help me and will call in ARRL and remind them about me?
92020 92021

KG7E
04-29-2012, 01:56 PM
I have registered on LOTW in the beginning of this year, uploaded to the site of its log for 5 years, the percentage of confirmation of course not high, but almost immediately confirmed WAS TPA, designed the application in February, but the answer from the ARRL is still absent. In the letter they do not respond. Maybe someone will help me and will call in ARRL and remind them about me?

Andrey, did you apply for TPA using the LOTW website and pay with credit card? Send me an email and I will try to help. de Jim

KC9EJG
04-30-2012, 09:18 PM
I am looking for a elmer who can help me out in trying to get LoTw set up. I have had a stroke an I am slow at doing things. I live in Indiana. I would ever be thankful of some help. Call is KC9EJG

Thank You.
kc9ejg@comcast.net

KC2SIZ
05-01-2012, 01:14 PM
I wish more DX used LoTW. However, I remember it was a pain to set up, so maybe that is why more do not use it? Loved getting 9 new countries via LoTW after dabbling in the CQ WPX contest for only a few hours.

It can be hard to get LOTW working correctly and the reasons for this often have to to do not just with LOTW but the other software you're using. It was nearly a year after I installed LOTW on my computer that I was actually able to use it for anything. This is because I use MixW, and for some reason when I use MixW to export my log as an ADIF file, LOTW will reject it rather than allow me to upload it. I have no idea why this would be the case, or whether it's true for others who use MixW, but there it is. I eventually solved the problem by exporting my MixW log into an ADIF file, importing that ADIF file into a separate logging program and then exporting it AGAIN from this other program as an ADIF file. Once I added this additional, annoying step, LOTW worked fine for me.

W4PG
05-01-2012, 01:52 PM
It can be hard to get LOTW working correctly and the reasons for this often have to to do not just with LOTW but the other software you're using. It was nearly a year after I installed LOTW on my computer that I was actually able to use it for anything. This is because I use MixW, and for some reason when I use MixW to export my log as an ADIF file, LOTW will reject it rather than allow me to upload it. I have no idea why this would be the case, or whether it's true for others who use MixW, but there it is. I eventually solved the problem by exporting my MixW log into an ADIF file, importing that ADIF file into a separate logging program and then exporting it AGAIN from this other program as an ADIF file. Once I added this additional, annoying step, LOTW worked fine for me.

Not all ADIF files are the same. The problem you had sounds like a problem with MixW, not LoTW.

AB1QP
05-04-2012, 11:47 PM
Really, imagine having to press the mouse button more than once to sign up for something! How inconvienient.
And yet another mouse click to upload from HRD. What a pain.
Why can't it read minds, like real software?

AB1QP
-you know who you are. And so do we-

N2RJ
05-07-2012, 06:23 PM
Not all ADIF files are the same. The problem you had sounds like a problem with MixW, not LoTW.


It can be hard to get LOTW working correctly and the reasons for this often have to to do not just with LOTW but the other software you're using. It was nearly a year after I installed LOTW on my computer that I was actually able to use it for anything. This is because I use MixW, and for some reason when I use MixW to export my log as an ADIF file, LOTW will reject it rather than allow me to upload it. I have no idea why this would be the case, or whether it's true for others who use MixW, but there it is. I eventually solved the problem by exporting my MixW log into an ADIF file, importing that ADIF file into a separate logging program and then exporting it AGAIN from this other program as an ADIF file. Once I added this additional, annoying step, LOTW worked fine for me.

Good logging software should have an option to output the ADIF file formatted for LoTW. I know HRD does. N1MM does too (by default its ADIF output is LoTW compatible).

NN3W
05-07-2012, 08:52 PM
You have 121,790 QSO records
You have 44,451 QSL records


36.50% hit rate.

WA6MHZ
05-07-2012, 10:57 PM
I have started to transcribe my logbooks into some logging program called XMLLOG. All the rest (Writelog, etc) were WAY WAY Too PRICEY, and XML LOG was a FREEBIE. Supposedly it has ADIF output, but it sure is TEDIOUS to log all these contacts. I got from 1999 to sometime in 2002. Long ways to go til 2012! But most of my contacts are VHF contest contacts, which I still need to enter for GRID SQUARES for VUCC.

YAWN............................

Gonna take me YEARS to do this. But I would like to see how far along I am on my RTTY and CW DXCC, and the VUCC!

Don't know what I will do about all my 1968-1999 contacts!

UA6JD
05-10-2012, 06:55 AM
V63AZ in LoTW for last week RTTY QSO.
Thanks

N0AZZ
05-10-2012, 11:54 AM
It is beyond me why some will only use free logging programs in a hobby that depends on it now more than ever before in the past. A really good one will do more for you than you can imagine and customized to do exactly what you want.

At the cost of what this hobby is today all things considered a good logger is one of the cheapest investments than you cam make for what it does. The very best logger there is Logic9 is only $139 and does what the others only dream of with there programs plus excellent phone and email support even to logging onto your computer and fixing anything that might be a problem with your install or what you want to customize. No one does that but Logic and it has cost me only a few pennies a day over the years for it. It can be downloaded for a free trial version good for 30 days a full working edition try all the others then try Logic9 you will see why I went to it years ago. I have no interest at all in this company other than they have a really great product.

N3XT
05-10-2012, 03:18 PM
I just followed the instructions as outlined below and am now up and running on LoTW. Total time was less than a week. It takes I think 3 separate short (15min) sessions at your computer to complete.

1) Load the Software and send in your certificate request
2) Enter in your Password from the Postcard to validate your information
3) Recieve and install the file by e-mail.

That's it for getting things set up from an initial set-up standpoint. Just follow directions. So simple even a caveman could do it.

73,

David C., N3XT


At the bottom of the page is the dummy book (PDF file) I used. There is an implied or direct step-by-step to follow and I don't recall which. You will not complete the process at one sitting at the computer. I don't always know the why or what of a step. Don't really matter, I just did it.

Take the process of sending a SASE QSL card (+ cost) and break it down into the steps needed from completed QSO to dropping the card into the mail box. The correct size envelopes, correct address on the correct envelope etc... No guarantee you will get the card back after spending time and money for each contact.

For LoTW once I am ready to upload/send a file it can contain 1 or hundreds of contacts. Same effort no cost. Ok, so I don't get a paper QSL card which might arrive in 6 months or 6 year or never. If you do want a card and have the QSL in LoTW then send a SASE card and I would bet you have a high success rate.

Just the other day I got a LoTW QSL that I was not sure of until I realized it was 2 years old under my previous call sign. Yesterday I had a QSL from a JT65 contact that was waiting for me when I upload my contact file for yesterday. When I first setup LoTW I processed the contacts in my HRD logbook and uploaded them with a 25% match rate.

The process is not hard, just a lot of steps that don't always make sense, is drawn out and you have to pay attention to each detail at that step of the process. Once I got setup it was worth it for me... maybe not others:confused:


http://www.arrl.org/logbook-of-the-world

UA6JD
05-11-2012, 01:50 PM
7Q7PRO in LoTW for last week CW QSO.
5R8AL in LoTW for May 2010 CW QSO.
Thanks

N2RJ
05-11-2012, 04:28 PM
You have 121,790 QSO records
You have 44,451 QSL records


36.50% hit rate.

About the same percentage here.

9,206 QSL/25,969 QSO = 35.45% hit rate.

This is actually a bit better than when I started using it in 2006. The hit rate was about 10-15% back then. Glad to see more people using the system!

N2RJ
05-11-2012, 04:33 PM
It is beyond me why some will only use free logging programs in a hobby that depends on it now more than ever before in the past. A really good one will do more for you than you can imagine and customized to do exactly what you want.

At the cost of what this hobby is today all things considered a good logger is one of the cheapest investments than you cam make for what it does. The very best logger there is Logic9 is only $139 and does what the others only dream of with there programs plus excellent phone and email support even to logging onto your computer and fixing anything that might be a problem with your install or what you want to customize. No one does that but Logic and it has cost me only a few pennies a day over the years for it. It can be downloaded for a free trial version good for 30 days a full working edition try all the others then try Logic9 you will see why I went to it years ago. I have no interest at all in this company other than they have a really great product.

I use the free programs because they are better than the payware alternatives.

Ham Radio Deluxe is light years ahead of the rest. I may end up paying for it when it becomes pay only but now I don't see any reason to upgrade.

I tried the demo of logic and it was just not user friendly for me. The user interface looked like it was straight out of windows 95. Even if it was $20 I wouldn't buy it.

N1MM logger works GREAT for all my contesting needs.

RUMLog is also pretty good on OSX.

More expensive doesn't always meen better.

AD1L
08-15-2012, 07:05 AM
My contacts with the ST0R 2011 DXpedition to the Republic of South Sudan have been confirmed via the ARRL LoTW as of 2012/08/12.

I received confirmation for 6 contacts total: 1 each for CW/RTTY/SSB on 20m and 15m.

AD1L
08-26-2012, 03:13 AM
The thread I start regarding ST0R confirmations was moved here by a moderator who said he thought it would conserve space. Thought I woud mention that less someone believed I had resurrected a 3 month old thread to insert this non-sequitur about ST0R.

I wasn't involved in a generl discussion of LoTW, just making an informative post, oh well, it's all good!

James - AD1L

WA4OTD
08-26-2012, 03:37 AM
Up to 212 confirmed now. LOTW plus cards. I also like LOTW for the special cards. Received couple new ones in the past month from card I send over year ago! Slow but worth the wait for new one confirmed!


219 confirmed - 41% LoTW QSL rate for 17678 QSO's. i love LoTW, but i also enjoy QSL cards... i have STACKS of them in my living room at the moment, anyone want some...

UA6JD
08-29-2012, 02:07 PM
P29VJY (New Britain Island) in LoTW - Apr 2010 QSO

UA6JD
09-01-2012, 08:53 AM
ZD9GI in LoTW - July 2011 JT65a QSO
New one on DIGI for me.

AC0FP
09-02-2012, 03:31 AM
I wish more DX used LoTW. However, I remember it was a pain to set up, so maybe that is why more do not use it? Loved getting 9 new countries via LoTW after dabbling in the CQ WPX contest for only a few hours.I thought it was a great idea five years ago or so when I applied. I never got it to work, I sure miss the DOS systems!

UA6JD
09-04-2012, 09:06 AM
24 Aug 2012 OQRS request 2 QSO
01 Sep 2012 received LoTW report for ALL QSOs

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