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W2ILP
12-05-2011, 08:51 PM
A very recent news report states that a new exoplanet has been located,
It orbits about a Sun that is similar to ours.
Its distance from its Sun is similar to ours, which means that it may have water similar to ours.
BUT....
It is 600 Light Years away from us. Who knows what our world might be like 600 years from now. People can't even predict the start of the next revolution, depression, natural disaster, religious coincidence, or the next U.S. election to say nothing about the winner of the next World's Series or any honestly run horse race.

Invested money, whose interest might average at 10 %, could make anyone a billionare, if not withdrawn in 600 years. The U.S. is less than 250 years old. Radio broadcasting is less than 150 years old. The E.T.s on that planet haven't had a chance to listen to Amos 'n Andy yet....to say nothing about TV's Archie Bunker.,..or Rowan and Martin's "bippie".

Wex, w2ilp (Inhabited LY Planet?) Even Drake's equation leads me to believe that there would have to be millions of such habititable planets for there to be one as crazy and similar to ours... with leopards, zebras, kangaroos, and people of all colors. At any rate, if the life on that 600 LY planet is able to see us, I'm sure they will be in for some big surprises. Amazing what sun and water has wrought.

K0RGR
12-05-2011, 09:08 PM
Now that the planet has been found, hopefully they can manage tests to detect water and atmospheric gases. The presence of a substantial amount of Oxygen - anything similar to our own atmosphere - would imply that there is at least some form of plant life.

Eventually, man will have to learn how to survive in the dark of space, without the benefit of solar energy or fertile planets. Those skills will also be needed to travel to other habitable or inhabited worlds.

AB2T
12-05-2011, 09:13 PM
Beam me up. We humans have done a F- job of taking care of the original planet we were assigned to. Strip mining, peak oil, denuded rainforest, that trash blob in the Pacific, an entire contintental economic system going into berserk mode -- let's just chalk it up and start over again.

total IB4TL.

KC8VWM
12-05-2011, 09:15 PM
Eventually, man will have to learn how to survive in the dark of space, without the benefit of solar energy or fertile planets. Those skills will also be needed to travel to other habitable or inhabited worlds.

The spacecraft "Earth Ship Ark" should do it...



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VllG88T9YYM&feature=related

W2ILP
12-05-2011, 09:23 PM
I don't thnk that anyone on Earth will know if there is any plant or other life on that planet until at least 1200 years from now. IT IS 600 LYs AWAY. It's not exactly like going into your back yard to see if the lettuce is still growing.

Wex, w2ilp (Iceberg Lettuce Production)...All balled up?

AB8MA
12-05-2011, 09:43 PM
I don't thnk that anyone on Earth will know if there is any plant or other life on that planet until at least 1200 years from now. IT IS 600 LYs AWAY. It's not exactly like going into your back yard to see if the lettuce is still growing.

Wex, w2ilp (Iceberg Lettuce Production)...All balled up?

For the astronauts it could be theoretically a lot shorter, but imagine the problems they would encounter upon their return.

Reminds me of the novel "Return from the Stars", by Stanislaw Lem.

WB2WIK
12-05-2011, 11:27 PM
I signed up to visit there.

They say it will take about a thousand years to get there if we hurry.

Good thing I'm patient.

K2WH
12-06-2011, 12:07 AM
Oh when I saw the posting topic and W2ILP had commented in there, I quickly expected to find W2 (I Like Planets). But I was disappointed. That was an easy one for you.

K2WH

K8ERV
12-06-2011, 12:18 AM
Best part is that Al Gore discovered it.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

N1JBS
12-06-2011, 12:38 AM
Best part is that Al Gore discovered it.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

And Vanna wants to move there...Oh wait??

KB3LAZ
12-06-2011, 12:54 AM
Yall take that planet and leave me what is left of this one. Thank you in advance. :P

W2ILP
12-06-2011, 01:04 AM
When medical science can guarentee me a life of 2000 years I'll consider going to an exoplanet. Until then no science fiction can phase me. Let us all contribute to medical scientific research and not buy tickets to foolish science fiction movies or displays. I prefer to only imagine about earthly heavenly bodies.

Wex, w2ilp (Imagination Lacks Practicality)...The plot sickens when people on a large space platiform were never told of it mission, nor was historical information about how and why their ancestors were chosen for the mission. Are they the "chosen people"?

Who knows? Maybe our Earth is only a man made platform on the way to going to heaven or hell with itself. Some who have read their biblical accounts may think so...and that would make us atheists the only really ignorant space travelers...I think....
I dunno for sure....but I prefer not to see any stupid science serial fiction programs...None could match "All in the Family"...even if there are Archie Bunkers and Ediths all in the space vehicle blaming everything on the folks who want everything handed to them without picking cotton.

WN6U
12-06-2011, 01:47 AM
I signed up to visit there.

They say it will take about a thousand years to get there if we hurry.

Good thing I'm patient.

Hope you are not the pilot. We saw what you did to that Ferrari in Japan. :eek:

W5WPL
12-06-2011, 03:49 AM
Has anyone worked it yet? If so, what band? Do they eQSL or bureau?
New award WAP?
I knew I should have kept my Star Trek Subspace radio.

KA5ROW
12-06-2011, 04:51 AM
Man’s instinct is not to be alone we require companionship. So it is human nature to think there is someone else out there. We are unique we are all there is. Now there could be plant life or animal maybe, but I don’t think so. Adam and Eve brought sin into the whole universe. What would the Bible say on that planet 600 light years away? That on a point of light in the heavens the first sin was committed and that Jesus died on Earth a point of light in the heavens for your sins here on planet kryptonite. The story of Adam, Moses, John, would seem a bit hard to grasp for them. Or would Jesus need to die again on the millions of planets that Carol Saigon says exist in all the Cosmos. Nope Atheist we are it. Now I have no problem of man going to the Moon, Mars or even to the Stars to see and study what is there.

KD8OUR
12-06-2011, 05:05 AM
given the vast amount of organics, yes complex organic material, water, tidal heating, fission, stars, etc. odds are good all sorts of "life" is out there.

good chance of that on other places closer to home. saturn and jupiter's moons both hold strong promise. titan is loaded with organics, an active atmosphere, geochemical processes, solvents and very complex organic chemistry even at cold temperatures. it might be nothing like earth life but it might be life. mars just might have an active water cycle that is mostly underground, although a dead world with little geological activity. skeptical on mars for life in its current state. other moons hold promise. it may be that moons hold more life than planets.

more space probes please and at least a few more titan missions. given its chemistry, thick atmosphere and size i think it is far more attractive than mars. smarter, faster and long term missions with robots into deep space is needed. i would love to see reports of the chemistry on asteroids and comets.

N1JBS
12-06-2011, 11:33 AM
Has anyone worked it yet? If so, what band? Do they eQSL or bureau?
New award WAP?
I knew I should have kept my Star Trek Subspace radio.

I bet that Pat has one he can loan you.....

WN9HJW
12-06-2011, 11:54 AM
Everyone is assuming that there's not already someone living there.

It's a toss-up whether we'll invade them or they'll invade us first.


We have an advantage. We know Morse Code. So we can organize a counterattack if they invade us first.

KI4NGN
12-06-2011, 11:55 AM
Now that the planet has been found, hopefully they can manage tests to detect water and atmospheric gases. The presence of a substantial amount of Oxygen - anything similar to our own atmosphere - would imply that there is at least some form of plant life.

Eventually, man will have to learn how to survive in the dark of space, without the benefit of solar energy or fertile planets. Those skills will also be needed to travel to other habitable or inhabited worlds.

Even if there's not a substantial amount of oxygen, there could still be life, and that would be awesome.

WF7A
12-06-2011, 12:11 PM
Well if we do send future colonists to a new planet/land we have to make sure they bring with them $14 worth of beads for trading. (Hey, it worked once before!)

You have to be careful how you define life: for all we know it could be based on silicon instead of oxygen so life processes mould happen so s-l-o-w-l-y that we'd think objects were inanimate there but in reality are alive in every sense of the word.

...or they're Hortas.

...or the whole planet could be a living entity, ala one of my two favorite sci-fi short stories, Here There Be Tygers (by Ray Bradbury.)

KI4NGN
12-06-2011, 12:41 PM
Well if we do send future colonists to a new planet/land we have to make sure they bring with them $14 worth of beads for trading. (Hey, it worked once before!)

You have to be careful how you define life: for all we know it could be based on silicon instead of oxygen so life processes mould happen so s-l-o-w-l-y that we'd think objects were inanimate there but in reality are alive in every sense of the word.

...or they're Hortas.

...or the whole planet could be a living entity, ala one of my two favorite sci-fi short stories, Here There Be Tygers (by Ray Bradbury.)

Actually we're carbon based and use oxygen as a catalyst. :)

WF7A
12-06-2011, 02:00 PM
You're right--thanks for the correction. That's what I get for logging in before my morning cuppa joe.

N1JBS
12-06-2011, 02:21 PM
Everyone is assuming that there's not already someone living there.

It's a toss-up whether we'll invade them or they'll invade us first.


We have an advantage. We know Morse Code. So we can organize a counterattack if they invade us first.

Or, we can upload a virus into their computers.....

WA6MHZ
12-06-2011, 03:42 PM
now we know where the UFOs are coming from!

WB2WIK
12-06-2011, 05:00 PM
Just heard this morning that using deeper data analysis on the new planet it appears there may be a stack of old Hallicrafters receivers piled up there...they're tying to make out the model number....something with an 88.

This may explain all the "missing" SX-88s from what was supposed to be a production lot of 500.

I'll let you know what I find when I get there.

QRX 1000 years or so.

NN5AA
12-06-2011, 05:26 PM
Even Drake's equation leads me to believe that there would have to be millions of such habititable planets for there to be one as crazy and similar to ours...


Don't forget Kirchoff's Konundrum & Maxwell's MetaMaterials Manifesto !!

K8ERV
12-06-2011, 05:31 PM
Don't forget Kirchoff's Konundrum & Maxwell's MetaMaterials Manifesto !!

I didn't forget them, did you think I did? (Sale going on on "did"s.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

WN6U
12-06-2011, 08:34 PM
now we know where the UFOs are coming from!

I was tempted to say Uranus, Oh wait...

N1JBS
12-07-2011, 12:07 AM
now we know where the UFOs are coming from!

And, maybe the BLACK WIDOWS!!!!!

N0NB
12-07-2011, 01:48 AM
Unless some method of warping space is discovered, no human exploration beyond our solar system will ever happen. The universe can relax as we're contained to where we are.

The logistics of a human mission to Mars are a nightmare, particularly if the astronauts are hoping to return.

WF7A
12-07-2011, 04:11 AM
The universe can relax as we're contained to where we are.

"The universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent." --Carl Sagan

KA4DPO
12-07-2011, 04:56 AM
Even if we could get there it's like twice as big as the earth. The gravity would crush us and anything that lives there is liable to be really big a probably not friendly. I don't know that for a fact but it sounds scary.

KC8VWM
12-07-2011, 05:01 AM
I bet HF propagation is really good on that planet.

AC4BB
12-08-2011, 01:43 AM
A very recent news report states that a new exoplanet has been located,
It orbits about a Sun that is similar to ours.
Its distance from its Sun is similar to ours, which means that it may have water similar to ours.
BUT....
It is 600 Light Years away from us. Who knows what our world might be like 600 years from now. People can't even predict the start of the next revolution, depression, natural disaster, religious coincidence, or the next U.S. election to say nothing about the winner of the next World's Series or any honestly run horse race.

Invested money, whose interest might average at 10 %, could make anyone a billionare, if not withdrawn in 600 years. The U.S. is less than 250 years old. Radio broadcasting is less than 150 years old. The E.T.s on that planet haven't had a chance to listen to Amos 'n Andy yet....to say nothing about TV's Archie Bunker.,..or Rowan and Martin's "bippie".

Wex, w2ilp (Inhabited LY Planet?) Even Drake's equation leads me to believe that there would have to be millions of such habitable planets for there to be one as crazy and similar to ours... with leopards, zebras, kangaroos, and people of all colors. At any rate, if the life on that 600 LY planet is able to see us, I'm sure they will be in for some big surprises. Amazing what sun and water has wrought.
"600 Hundred"light Years" away. doubt getting there.?"

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