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G0MZS
10-06-2003, 02:15 PM
Afghanistan is set to have one of its best Poppy crops in many years. They are the main heroin producer in the world and supply hight up in 80% of the worlds heroin. We all know what the result of herion can be on our society. And generates large amounts of money! Do you think that large amounts of money is going to terrorists? I do and this should be looked at. Since the big boys are in town, Americans, then why are these crop be allowed to grow still? We could sort out a few social problems if we fired the whole crop. Save money in the health system, police, social work etc Not to mention the death through muggings and robberies!! Or is this another on of them secret money making deals for a certain intelligency agency?
Dont make sence??

k4dje
10-06-2003, 02:30 PM
Here we go again. Why is the answer always BAN IT?

Didn't we try that with alcohol? The war on drugs is a money pit and we will never win it. Make them legal and tax them. A portion of the tax money should go to rehabilitation centers for anyone who wants to get off them.

I think G0MZS just likes to stir the pot. I am going to have to really think hard about further posting to any of his threads.

Dan

w3sy
10-06-2003, 03:58 PM
How do we know the crop won't go to making poppy seed BAGELS? Tsk... MUST we always assume the WORST in our fellow man?

haw.
out.

AG3Y
10-06-2003, 04:02 PM
Or Poppie Seed Kolackies ! MMMM MMMM ! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73 from an old Bohunk!

Jim AG3Y

G0MZS
10-06-2003, 04:10 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (k4dje @ Oct. 06 2003,07:30)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Here we go again. Why is the answer always BAN IT?

Didn't we try that with alcohol? The war on drugs is a money pit and we will never win it. Make them legal and tax them. A portion of the tax money should go to rehabilitation centers for anyone who wants to get off them.

I think G0MZS just likes to stir the pot. I am going to have to really think hard about further posting to any of his threads.

Dan[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Whats is up with you. It is a truth. You might have a good idea in taxing drugs but dont you think it easyer to cut off the supply at the growing stage? Is America in control of Afghanistan or not? If so stop the heroin trade, it could be done in a day. Its grown openly in the north.

Or would you rather read yet another code debate? Like said many times before by many in the forums. Do read if you dont like, just move on.

I made a valid point.

w3sy
10-06-2003, 04:27 PM
Temper.... temper.....

Go have a poppy seed bagel... Or better yet, eat a whole BAG of 'em. That'll mellow you out.

HAW!!!!!!!!

Like, way out, man....

G0MZS
10-06-2003, 04:43 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Oct. 06 2003,09:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Temper.... temper.....

Go have a poppy seed bagel... Or better yet, eat a whole BAG of 'em. That'll mellow you out.

HAW!!!!!!!!

Like, way out, man....[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Did not loose my temper Steve. I would not use such to chill. A nice big spliff of skunk will do, wont get locked up for it unlike your option. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
Might be why us Europeans are so mellow. All that Marijuana we smoke. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

K9STH
10-06-2003, 04:45 PM
MZS:

Now, where are your friends across the channel (Netherlands) going to get their supplies? After all, many drugs are legal in Holland!

Frankly, you just like to &quot;pull the chains&quot; of a few people on this board who really take your comments seriously! So long as things don't get profane, obscene, or personal I pretty much have to leave them up since they don't violate the &quot;rules of the road&quot;. However, there are some on the QRZ.com staff that are not as forgiving as I and suddenly your thread(s) may disappear without warning!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

w3sy
10-06-2003, 04:47 PM
Well, grass certainly worked for the Beatles! Could they have come up with ANY of the White Album or Sgt Pepper without a healthy dose of weed? heh

Mellow Europeans indeed! Ever driven in Italy?? Oy!!

G0MZS
10-06-2003, 04:57 PM
Glen Marijuana is decriminalised not legal heroin is illegal.

Many people yank on chains Glen Including Steve who does nothing but. It is all in fun and when a serious matter comes along it is treated as so. I do not only yank.

If my posts are not welcome then I will move on but it is a sad day when one can get away with what another can not. As you have stated I have not broken the rules of the forum and never would but I can not feel part of a forum with this sort of threat hovering over me. Feels like a form of censorship.
Is a shame some good sorts on this forum.

Have a good one guys this Brit is bowing out gracefully.

Hope to talk some DX with you, all welcome my Yagis always point west over the pond.

N7VQM
10-06-2003, 06:58 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Oct. 06 2003,09:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Go have a poppy seed bagel...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Just don't eat any the morning of or the few days before a job interview!

EI7JK
10-06-2003, 07:16 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Have a good one guys this Brit is bowing out gracefully.
[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

Why the hell should you bow out because of that lot, let 'em live with it. If they can't, then let them be the ones to bow out

WA2ZDY
10-06-2003, 07:37 PM
I can't eat poppy seed bagels, rolls, or anything else. I get to go provide a &quot;urine sample&quot; at work any old time they feel like it. So not worth the chance. I kinda need my job.

Having worked in the prison system for 23 years, I have basically had the &quot;war on drugs&quot; pay my bills. In the interest of society at large though, I agree - decriminalise it and tax it. Several things would happen.

Much of the allure would diminish. Forbidden fruit ALWAYS tastes better, right? Supply would rise dramatically and prices would fall. That would eliminate much of the need for crime as a way to support a habit. And taxation would generate revenue for the government. I think Prohibition proved much of that.

A word about the intelligence of the average junkie: they're smarter than most of you think. Heroin is no longer injected by most. It's snorted. Why? Even junkies are smart enough to want to skip the AIDS wards.

So we decriminalise it and some more folks go for a final ride on &quot;the horse.&quot; Who really cares? If they don't, I won't.

K9STH
10-06-2003, 07:37 PM
MZS:

The &quot;threat&quot; of being banned, having one's posts deleted, etc., is a possibility for anyone who posts anywhere on the Internet who is not posting on a site &quot;owned&quot; by them.

I did not threaten you in any way! What I did point out is that if you &quot;hack off&quot; one of the &quot;powers that be&quot; on QRZ.com that you do run the risk of being punished. However, it takes a lot to &quot;hack off&quot; one of them. But, I do admit that there are certain members of that group who are not as &quot;forgiving&quot; as I am.

You do seem to enjoy &quot;pulling the chains&quot; of various people who post on this site. There are also several others who do the same thing. Although I do not agree with a lot of what you post, I will also defend your right to post your ideas so long as they follow the &quot;rules of the road&quot; of QRZ.com. Again, those are basically no profanity, no obscenities, and no personal attacks on other who are involved in the discussions.

It is entirely your option to post or not to post. It is entirely your option to say various things about the various subjects. However, you also have to take full responsibility for what you post. If you &quot;cross the line&quot; and start not obeying the &quot;rules of the road&quot; then action will be taken against you. But, if you do follow the &quot;rules of the road&quot;, even if I don't agree with what you are posting, then you have no fear of actions being taken against you.

If you believe that having to take full responsibility for what you post is an attempt to &quot;quash&quot; your opinions you are completely wrong! Everyone is responsible for what they post. Period!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

G0MZS
10-06-2003, 07:53 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ Oct. 06 2003,09:45)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">MZS:

Now, where are your friends across the channel (Netherlands) going to get their supplies? #After all, many drugs are legal in Holland!

Frankly, you just like to &quot;pull the chains&quot; of a few people on this board who really take your comments seriously! #So long as things don't get profane, obscene, or personal I pretty much have to leave them up since they don't violate the &quot;rules of the road&quot;. #However, there are some on the QRZ.com staff that are not as forgiving as I and suddenly your thread(s) may disappear without warning!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
So what was this post if not to warn me off? As you have said in both your post, I have not broken any of QRZ.coms rules. So why mention it? I havent seen you warn any other member in this manner, the ones that may yank on chains but not brake the rules.

I take it as I read it Glen, a warning and hence a feeling that my posts are not welcome.

It is not a problem, people can see it as what it is and I can just as much read the posts without replying.

I get the message.
73

K9STH
10-06-2003, 10:21 PM
You obviously don't read much except for the threads that you start! I warn people all the time when they start getting personal, etc.

You are not being &quot;picked on&quot; or anything like that. You do enjoy &quot;pulling chains&quot;. I have not threatened you with being &quot;banned&quot;, etc. However, I did tell you that there are others who watch these threads who also have the power to shut them down, etc. That is common knowledge by the other users of this site and I don't have any control over them!

Frankly, it takes a lot before I'll shut down a thread even though I usually get numerous requests to do so just because of the subject matter. However, the fastest way to find out what can happen is to violate the &quot;rules of the road&quot;. Also, one needs to be pretty &quot;thick skinned&quot; if they go out of their way to cause controversy. This is one thing that you are definitely guilty of doing!

So, it is your option to post or not to post. But, as I said before, you (and everyone else for that matter) will be held responsible for what you say.

Glen, K9STH

KC7HDE
10-07-2003, 06:42 AM
I would like to know where I can read this artical about the biggest crop of poppies in Afganastan is at?


Norm. T.

10-07-2003, 09:26 AM
Hey, there's a lot of money involved in the heroin trade.

Let's remember that Richard Armitage, our current deputy secretary of state under Colin Powell was busted for transporting 60 kilos of heroin in Burma under Daddy Bush. Daddy got him off and tried to make him secretary of the Navy, but the Navy wouldn't have him... so he went on the back burner for awhile, then Georgie Junior brought him back.

Just like it was Rumsfeld that gave the anthrax to our old pal Saddam.... and the CIA under big Daddy who gave the shoulder-launched missiles to brother Ossama... and Mike Powell who wants to squeeze out all the small broadcasters and take over the media...and brother Neil who did big Daddy's bidding in the S&amp;L scandle, a 500 billion dollar rip-off authorized by big Daddy when he was vice-president and head of the banking system... and the beat goes on !

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 09:47 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ Oct. 06 2003,15:21)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You obviously don't read much except for the threads that you start! #I warn people all the time when they start getting personal, etc.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Like I said I have not broken any rule or got personal so why the lecture?

I made two threads. One about Gun laws the other Afghanistan. The rest of my posts fall in line with other members. I read most of the forum and can find not one rebuke from you to a member who has not done anything wrong, like not broken the rules or got personal and have no intention of doing. I am an adult and am aware that I am responsible for all I do not only posting on a forum. Again I have not broken any rules and it leaves me wondering why you remind me of my responsiblities is such a public fashion.
I am trying to understand what is going on but your motive is hard to work out..

KI4BOO
10-07-2003, 11:29 AM
The poppies are being grown to boost the Afghan economy. Imagine that.

Once the shipments are ready, they can be confiscated when entering US ports, further lining American coffers.

This is how it works, and it works well. It's the same reason the US Government used to buy cocaine from South American countries for sale in the US.

10-07-2003, 02:49 PM
MZS.. Glen has.. in other threads both in the dim foggy pasts AND the vibrant present time.. posted public notices about some postings made by folks.

Many on here can and will confirm that, if you like. I can.. becuase Glen did it when I found myself dropping 'just a little lower on the radar scope than I should have done'.

He has ALSO sent PRIVATE EMAIL's to folks to let them know when things get a bit overdone or overheated. Again, I know this, becuase he kindly did so for and with me. (AND I thanked him for doing so, as well)

I did reply to you privately, but I felt that a public summary of that part would be useful to others to know.

73
Chuck K3FT

Trust me on this..
If Glen chooses to exert his authority to ban you or block your access.. you have REALLY screwed up big time!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Since you are still here.. obviously you have not even begun to approach Glen's MAGINOT LINE. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 03:04 PM
Chuck

I would like you to point out any post that I have been profane or abusive to anyone. Do a serch on w3sy Steves posts and tell me if this constitutes &quot;pulling peoples chains&quot; and then point me to the post where the public warnig was posted.

Thank you

K9STH
10-07-2003, 03:06 PM
From &quot;time to time&quot; I remind lots of people about their responsibilities! Those who &quot;stir the pot&quot; get reminded more often than those who do not! You like to &quot;stir the pot&quot;! What I try to do is to maintain some sort of order on the forums that I moderate.

I also have to wear two hats: One of those as a &quot;lowly&quot; participant and the other as a &quot;high and mighty moderator&quot;! I try to keep the two separate. When I am participating in a discussion I do not identify myself as one of the moderators. But, when I do have to resort to excercising my &quot;authority&quot; I do identify myself as one of the moderators. Most people who have been &quot;putting up with me&quot; for the past couple of years (that I have been moderating this site) know the difference. I could have used two different login identities and tried to keep my identity secret. However, I don't operate in that manner. Frankly, I am willing to &quot;take the heat&quot; from my actions as a moderator as well as &quot;taking the heat&quot; for my participation as a &quot;regular&quot; guy.

I do not edit, censor, etc., anyone's post except if they start getting profane or obscene. Then I may delete their post (or portion thereof) and give the person who posted the message a warning. Sometimes a person who has been obeying all of the rules lapses into some sort of &quot;brain fade&quot; and something &quot;slips&quot; through. However, most of the time, the problems come from people who are trying to push the envelope and are trying to cause problems. Frankly, I do not have to agree with what someone posts in order to respect their opinion. Respect and agreement are two, completely different, things. I sometimes think that what someone is posting is completely wrong. But, if they do so in a rational, adult (and I don't mean &quot;adult&quot; as in &quot;adult Internet sites&quot;) manner then I can both repect their opinion as well as disagreeing with it.

So, I am not &quot;picking on you&quot; because I disagree with what you are posting. I am trying to keep things on a more level &quot;playing field&quot; by reminding you, and others as well, that you need to phrase your responses in a manner to get your points across without violating the &quot;rules of the road&quot;. Also that you, and you alone, are responsible for what you post. That is not only easily accomplished, but by phrasing your responses in such a manner you &quot;come across&quot; as being a more &quot;learned&quot; person and gaining the respect of both those who agree and those who disagree with your position.

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 03:15 PM
So what post of mine or others has got out of hand? Or is it just that your email box is full of mail about my comments. Do you see me as anti American because of my British views.

Glen I can not see why you are posting. IMOA there is no need for it. It feels personal.

K9STH
10-07-2003, 04:23 PM
MZS:

I think that you are being very defensive. You don't seem to understand that I am not picking on you! I am not trying to censor you. I am not &quot;anti British&quot;! I am trying to maintain order on the forums that I moderate. Over the time that I have been moderating on this site I have come to notice certain traits that foretell possible problems. All that I am trying to do is to &quot;head off&quot; potential problems. You just don't seem to recognize this!

I don't care what your position is on any particular subject. I don't care what you say so long as the &quot;rules of the road&quot; are not violated. I do care about preventing problems where I can prevent them. I do expect those who post to be responsible for what they post. You don't seem to understand this. At least from the fact that you continue to think that you are being &quot;singled&quot; out for &quot;special&quot; treatment. You are NOT being singled out except that you continue to bring up the subject. You seem to have to have the &quot;last word&quot; no matter what.

I know plenty of people from the U.K. Most of them seem to be reasonable, educated people. I suspect that you fall into this same category. But, you also have to realize that I am trying to maintain order on this site. I am sorry if you think that I am &quot;picking on you&quot;. I am sorry that I just cannot convince you otherwise. However, you aren't doing yourself any good by trying to convince me, and the other people who post on this site, that I am picking on you. I am NOT! Thus, please give it a &quot;rest&quot;. If you cause problems then you will have to &quot;reap the rewards&quot; of your causing problems. If you don't cause any problems then you don't have to worry. It is as simple as that!

If, for some reason, you have a persecution complex, I cannot help that! I am NOT persecuting you. I am NOT trying to censor your opinions. I personally DO disagree with a lot of what you post. However, I also will defend your right to post so long as you don't get profane, obscene, or personal.

I can't get any more specific. Please, give it a rest! No one that I know of is trying to &quot;shut you up&quot;. However, your continued complaining about supposed attempts to &quot;shut you up&quot; is going nowhere. In fact, the comments are turning various people against you. Myself, I can care less that you are willing to express your opinions. If I disagree with them I am going to express my opinions. If I agree with them I also reserve the right to express my opinions. That is the whole principle on which this particular forum is based.

Anyway, I cannot put it any simpler. No one is picking on you! You are welcome to express your opinions so long as you do not violate the &quot;rules of the road&quot;. I have come down MUCH harder on several people who post on a regular basis than what you seem to think that I am &quot;coming down&quot; on you. I am NOT coming down on you except for the fact that I can't seem to get through to you that I am NOT coming down on you! Makes pefect sense, doesn't it! If you are willing to accept the responsibility for your posts then there are no problems! If you think that you can post whatever and you are not willing to accept the responsibility for those posts then there are problems. However, I believe that you are willing to accept the responsibility and therefore I don't understand why you keep posting things that seem to be indicating that you are being &quot;picked upon&quot;. You certainly have not been singled out for any special attention from the subjects of you post. But, since you keep on with the thought that you are being picked upon, I can only repeat that you are not being picked upon.

Anway, please let this particular subject drop. It is getting no one anywhere fast.

Glen, K9STH

10-07-2003, 04:35 PM
&quot;Afghanistan is set to have one of its best Poppy crops in many years. &quot; G0MZS

The poppy crop in Afganistan is harvested in May to July. This happens to be October in case you haven't noticed. Why are you posting old news from last March?

&quot;Do you think that large amounts of money is going to terrorists? I do.....&quot; G0MZS

No, however in the past the Taliban did have a large tax on poppy growing and at that time some of it I'm sure went to terrorists groups. Do you have some specific information showing terrorist groups profiting today from this trade?

&quot;Since the big boys are in town, Americans, then why are these crop be allowed to grow still? &quot; G0MZS

I thought that the UN was dealing with poppy production in Afganistan? That may explain why it's not working out so well Also is this some kind of sarcastic cut at Americans?

&quot;Or is this another on of them secret money making deals for a certain intelligency agency?&quot; G0MZS

I was unaware that British Intelligence was involved in the illegal drug trade. What is your reference for this information?

Glen you pegged this guy right off the bat.

73, Marty WB2RJR

w3sy
10-07-2003, 04:48 PM
G0MZS (You never give your name, so I'll just refer to you as &quot;Gomer&quot;) sez: <span style='color:blue'>I would like you to point out any post that I have been profane or abusive to anyone. Do a serch on w3sy Steves posts and tell me if this constitutes &quot;pulling peoples chains&quot; and then point me to the post where the public warnig was posted.</span>

What, is this Kindergarten? You're being reminded to mind your P's and Q's, and all you can do is point to someone ELSE and say, &quot;But... but... but... HE'S doing it! Waaaaaahhhh!!&quot;

Oh, grow up.

And as Glen suggested, lighten up and stop being so defensive. If and when you DO get smacked, you'll KNOW it. In the mean time, nobody is stopping you from doing whatever it is you're up to.

Blimey, mate! Nip 'round to the pub an 'ave a COLD one on me...

Cheerio.

Out.

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 05:11 PM
Didnt the CIA have something to do with drugs and underhanded dealings some time ago? Wasnt this why all that investigation went on and much power taken away from them?

Ok the crop has been harvested and the storage, production and distribution of heroin is has started.

Bumper crop was a head line and not used as date factual.

The UN is a collection of member countries that America and England are a member of and all it take is one to vote the other way to put a stop to things. Just like whith certain Africain issues where contries did not agree then when they did dragged there feet while thousands where been killed. The UN is not a European failure it is also an American failure it is a team effort but some players dont play as a team.

Yes Glen may have hit the nail on the head when he said I pull the chains of some. This is a talk and opinions part of a forum.
Or would you prefer us all to act like Neanderthal and beat each other with clubs?

Come on its a discussion forum chill out.

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 05:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ Oct. 07 2003,09:48)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">G0MZS (You never give your name, so I'll just refer to you as &quot;Gomer&quot;) sez: <span style='color:blue'>I would like you to point out any post that I have been profane or abusive to anyone. Do a serch on w3sy Steves posts and tell me if this constitutes &quot;pulling peoples chains&quot; and then point me to the post where the public warnig was posted.</span>

What, is this Kindergarten? You're being reminded to mind your P's and Q's, and all you can do is point to someone ELSE and say, &quot;But... but... but... HE'S doing it! Waaaaaahhhh!!&quot;

Oh, grow up.

And as Glen suggested, lighten up and stop being so defensive. If and when you DO get smacked, you'll KNOW it. In the mean time, nobody is stopping you from doing whatever it is you're up to.

Blimey, mate! Nip 'round to the pub an 'ave a COLD one on me...

Cheerio.

Out.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I do not drink and I am chilled. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif
Grow up.................. Steve when you do I will, have we got a deal? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

w3sy
10-07-2003, 05:27 PM
I have no plans to grow up in the near future, God willing.

HAW!

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 05:29 PM
You look just like him http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

ky5u
10-07-2003, 05:57 PM
GOMZS,


Before I posted this, I went back and read alot of your contributions. #They were overwhelmingly for the purpose of stirring up the natives. #You said if your posts were not welcomed, you'd move on. #Okay, you judge.

You run a forum in GB mostly of GB Amateurs and it is open to anyone internationally to post. #I come on your forum with baiting posts, knocking what you GB chaps are saying, talking about things in your country always with the underpinning of how you have it all wrong. #What do you suppose the reaction on that forum would be? #

Lets see if you really are as fair as you profess. #Be your own judge. #(I surely am not worthy to be judge here).

Here's a little help (out of context):

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well it is official......most Americans and all &quot;Yanks&quot; have no sence of humour! Stick to your guns chaps, you seem to get more of a rise out of them Hi ( I have seen the women on your beaches, or was they whales ?)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can talk of real men will balls of steal in NY can you? Most of the men up your part of the world grow breasts and cut there steals off!!! #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Makes a change from the CW crap you lot have flogged to death. Tis you that need some parent guidance sir. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Amateur radio in the UK and the rest of the world is in good shape no thanks to bickering amateurs elsewhere. ...please do not judge the rest of amateur radio by your countries standards. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You wouldnt be a true American if you didnt change it. If it moves change it and label it as ours. One day you can claim it for your own [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

To be fair, you've had a few regular comments to make on subjects. #They were thoughtful and interesting. #Didn't always agree with you, but they were worth reading.

ai4ep
10-07-2003, 06:09 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif ok KIDs next one that misbehaves, I will sic this *&amp;*^% eating dog loose on ya ! ( lol ) he almost got loose the other night when the folks from the trailer next door was drinking and arguing, , but I quieted him down with some road kill ( you SCOOP it up with one of those wide snow type shovels when you gather it from the road side ), but it is all gone now, and he is hungry again, ....I was gonna send it to who was sending me those &quot; lovely &quot; e - mails, but I couldnt wedge him between the phone line jack and the back of the computer, and tap the &quot;send&quot; button at the same time !! ( rofl) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif ...on second thought I might ought not to try to git rid of him, the other trailer for rent was being looked at by some folks the other day ( real scummy foreign looking types ), and he just sat there and wagged his tail ( when he wags his tail and smiles you know he had found a future meal, but dont want to scare them off with barking and jumping )...but they saw him and got in their SUV and left, with that long , long 102 &quot; cb whip bent over as they drove off mounted to the spare tire wheel cover . Oh well, you KIDS be nice to each other or some one will come to your home, and using chalk, draw a circle on your monitor screen, and make you put your nose in that circle until you can behave. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 07:17 PM
AG4YO

What about if I tell you I am a Sikh. Or how shall I put it.........Raghead! Towel head ! Sand eater! Just to mention a few way people use to discribe a culture without reguard for others.

By the way Muslims do not wear Turbans Indians do as in people from India Sikhs.

If you cant take it then do not give it is a saying we use in England. We would give as good you if you came on a British run site. After its all in jest..........isnt it?

ky5u
10-07-2003, 07:58 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What about if I tell you I am a Sikh. Or how shall I put it.........Raghead! Towel head ! Sand eater! Just to mention a few way people use to discribe a culture without reguard for others.

By the way Muslims do not wear Turbans Indians do as in people from India Sikhs.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>


Man, you must really be alot smarter than I am because I have no earthly idea what your were talking about. Are you posting about drugs because you're ON THEM? #Is that your point?

If you're Muslim, so what? #What if I said I was Jewish? #I'll raise you two Baptists , a Presbetyrian and AE6IP. #I call. #I have two Rabbis and three Yenta's, that's a full house! #You have one Arafat, one Bin Laden, one Saddam, one Chemical Ali, and a Kobe Bryant. #That's a failed flush. #I win! # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

10-07-2003, 08:21 PM
I just....can't #stand it!...Sides aching from laughter!! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

(ok..ok.. calm now... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

G0MZS said &quot;AG4YO What about if I tell you I am a Sikh. Or how shall I put it.........Raghead! Towel head ! Sand eater! Just to mention a few way people use to discribe a culture without reguard for others. By the way Muslims do not wear Turbans Indians do as in people from India Sikhs. If you cant take it then do not give it is a saying we use in England. We would give as good you if you came on a British run site. After its all #in jest..........isnt it?&quot;

K3FT (gasping from lack of air due to uncontrollable laughter) Please.. hang on.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Ok.

MZS.. MZS..MZS... I read your posting and I am still blinking my eyes in disbelief! #I read your posting and I STILL can't figure out what you are trying to say?

WHERE.. OH WHERE.. did ANYONE even VENTURE to drop into the sewer of perjorative namecalling?

I don't recall ANY American OR our Resident DX stations XV2PS from VietNamor EI7JK or another G station posting ANYTHING that was as personally perjorative as you just posted!

If you are TRYING to have Glen doff his hat as &quot;MOST HIGH AND MIGHTY MODERATOR&quot; and FORCE him to excercise his authority.... you are REALLY doing a first-class job of increasing the chances he will do so.

Incredible! #sorry.. can't stop..... Must....resist..Can't... #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #

(As the &quot;Lost In Space&quot; TV show character 'Dr. Zachary Smith' used to say... [/I]OH THE PAIN!!! THE PAIN!!!&quot;[I]

mi3jdc
10-07-2003, 08:31 PM
No doubt drugs are a menace, but it is a multimillion pound business, and some of the dealers earn millions on it. As a result they can buy people off and you will never be able to beat it. I think education of the young would help combat it in some way, but while money is to be made it will never stop. If no one could make money from it it would stop.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif

G0MZS
10-07-2003, 08:42 PM
K3FT

People in the forum have used these terms not directly at me. So why can you have a go in this way and then moan when your ego gets brused just because someone questions a couple of your American ways? This was my point.

If you would stop to read what I write then you would also notice that I mentioned Sikh it is you that mix the religous tradition of the tuban as a Muslim thing it is not.

I made a point thats all. Why can American members pull on chains yet if a none America mention anything about you you go off the deap end? I started the thread so I respond to what is said. Thats how it work isnt it?
Its you that bites http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

N0KLT
10-08-2003, 02:31 AM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG3Y @ Oct. 06 2003,10:02)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Or Poppie Seed Kolackies ! # #MMMM #MMMM #! # #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

73 from an old Bohunk!

Jim AG3Y[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now you are talking good eating. The lady across the street makes mini ones for helping her out with stuff she can't do herself. She also makes rhubarb ones which gets her free and plentiful access to our rhubarb patch. Good stuff. And I don't really like rhubarb.

73

Gary NØKLT

PS around here we spell them Kolachies or colachies.

G0MZS
10-08-2003, 01:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AG4YO @ Oct. 07 2003,10:57)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">GOMZS,


Before I posted this, I went back and read alot of your contributions. #They were overwhelmingly for the purpose of stirring up the natives. #You said if your posts were not welcomed, you'd move on. #Okay, you judge.

You run a forum in GB mostly of GB Amateurs and it is open to anyone internationally to post. #I come on your forum with baiting posts, knocking what you GB chaps are saying, talking about things in your country always with the underpinning of how you have it all wrong. #What do you suppose the reaction on that forum would be? #

Lets see if you really are as fair as you profess. #Be your own judge. #(I surely am not worthy to be judge here).

Here's a little help (out of context):

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well it is official......most Americans and all &quot;Yanks&quot; have no sence of humour! Stick to your guns chaps, you seem to get more of a rise out of them Hi ( I have seen the women on your beaches, or was they whales ?)[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You can talk of real men will balls of steal in NY can you? Most of the men up your part of the world grow breasts and cut there steals off!!! #[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Makes a change from the CW crap you lot have flogged to death. Tis you that need some parent guidance sir. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Amateur radio in the UK and the rest of the world is in good shape no thanks to bickering amateurs elsewhere. ...please do not judge the rest of amateur radio by your countries standards. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">You wouldnt be a true American if you didnt change it. If it moves change it and label it as ours. One day you can claim it for your own [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

To be fair, you've had a few regular comments to make on subjects. #They were thoughtful and interesting. #Didn't always agree with you, but they were worth reading.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I went back to read why I wrote them replies.

Just extracts of what I said and not the whole picture.
You cant just show bits to get the full story you have to see the whole picture.

ae4tr
10-08-2003, 01:33 PM
&lt;&lt; Afghanistan is set to have one of its best Poppy crops in many years.&lt;&lt; # Is this their secret weapon of Mass Destruction?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif # I wonder why we did'nt fiinish what we started in Afghanistan before we took on Iraq ? #One war at a time please. #We are spreading ourselves too thin. #May the Force be with us. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

G0MZS
10-08-2003, 02:06 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ae4tr @ Oct. 08 2003,06:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">&lt;&lt; Afghanistan is set to have one of its best Poppy crops in many years.&lt;&lt; # Is this their secret weapon of Mass Destruction?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif # I wonder why we did'nt fiinish what we started in Afghanistan before we took on Iraq ? #One war at a time please. #We are spreading ourselves too thin. #May the Force be with us. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well you could look at it like that. Just look at the cost of heroin abuse in the western world. The crime caused and the amount of Police hours and money involved. Not to mention the health risks and cost to hospitals and life. I watch a program where a shop lifter (herio addict) who was stealing for his habbit, when he was stopped by Police outside the store attacked them with a knife first cutting himself, then two of the Police. He had HIV.

Heroin causes many social problems and it is frustrating that it is so easy to distroy over 80% of the worlds supply in Afghanistan. We could even pay them not to grow the crop, it would cost less than the anual Policing bill it costs to fight the heroin trade.

ky5u
10-08-2003, 03:32 PM
Although I still don't &quot;get it&quot; on your Muslim post, I see your point on the 80% crop.

I am not Jewish, by the way. I said that just in case you were thinking about blowing up my cat or something. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Seriously, if you are Muslim, don't be defensive about it. Wonerfully peaceful teachings, rich history, and marvelous civilizations under that banner.

w3sy
10-11-2003, 04:12 AM
An ENGLISH Muslim?? &quot;I say there! I do say! Allah be praised, and all that bloody rot!&quot;

Does not sound quite right, does it?

HAW!!!!