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KB1JCY
08-11-2003, 04:09 PM
http://frutsel.terrainhost.com/frutselapp/dump/CraptacularWireless/ham-humor_kill-a-kitten4.jpg
w3bny
08-11-2003, 04:16 PM
(The "original" is funnier IMHO)
Now there will be hundreds of "no good term to use" that will just kerchuck away http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif
Anyhoo...I got the humor point in yer post.
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KB1JCY
08-11-2003, 04:22 PM
I tried. This board sorely needs some humor.
w3bny
08-11-2003, 04:28 PM
Humor...Here?
Now thats funny mate!
ai4ep
08-11-2003, 09:03 PM
...what happens when they run out of kittens ?
WA2ZDY
08-11-2003, 10:00 PM
I guess this is one of those "you had to be there" jokes, but what exactly is funny about this original post? I am neither a bible thumper nor a cat lover, but I find it offensive.
Am I alone here? This is out of line. And I'm not offended easily after 23 years working in the state prison.
ae4fa
08-11-2003, 10:43 PM
Geez, Chris, you oughta come to work with me. I've been at this particular career going on 20 years, and I stopped saying, "now I've seen everything" 15 years ago.
We deal with the particularly ghastly on a routine basis. The folks you deal with, if you're in max security, are the ones we send there - and we deal with what, and who, they left in their wake.
One of the survival mechanisms that is absolutely necessary is personal detachment. So, how does one achieve that? I think it's usually termed 'gallows humor.'
I've got both dogs and cats. I really enjoy a puppy's or kitten's unfeined affection. But the original post doesn't offend me in the least. I've laughed over much more crude & graphic things with my collegues.
Not for everyone, I suppose . . .
W8FAX
08-12-2003, 01:10 AM
I always thought that about all cats were good for was to be ground up and fed to other cats anyway............
WA2ZDY
08-12-2003, 02:45 AM
I hear ya Bob, I know what you mean, and you're right. Gallows humour gets us all through. We have enough of our own chaos right in the zoo.
But when we're joking about God killing kittens over some ham radio isse, I just see that as too far over the top.
I'll step aside now.
KI4BDS
08-12-2003, 11:43 AM
I am not a BIBLE thumper, whatever that is,I'm a Christian which is the difference between Man seeking a God and GOD seeking Man. I didnt find it funny and I just came from the worst place on earth, the Washington Burn Center in DC, 2 people died from Sun.to Wed. Of course I dont find Seinfeld funny and I dont find Will and Grace to have any social value. What are you going to say when GOd asks you, "Did you read your Bible cover to cover?" I'm offended. Karl
w3bny
08-12-2003, 12:26 PM
Well at least this thread didnt turn into code vs. no-code
and KB1JCY have you ever seen the "original"? If not, PM me and I will send it to you. It was a hoot.
And to the rest, there was a web banner loooong ago that had the same theme and was funny...in a wierd sort of way. Actually, the guy had a bunch of them.
either way
Everyone have a nice day.
w5alt
08-12-2003, 12:45 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am not a BIBLE thumper,whatever that is,I'm a Christian which is the difference between Man seeking a God and GOD seeking Man. #I didnt find it funny and I just came from the worst place on earth, the Washington Burn Center in DC, 2 people died from Sun.to Wed. Of course I dont find Seinfeld funny and I dont find Will and Grace #to have any social value. What are you going to say when GOd asks you, "Did you read your Bible cover to cover?" #I'm offended. Karl[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yes, I've read it several times, in several languages, but I didn't lose my sense of humor.
So, what you are saying is that God killing thousands and thousands of non-Israelis is fine and dandy. That's in your Bible. But joking about killing a kitten offends you.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What are you going to say when GOd asks you,"Did you read your Bible cover to cover?" #I'm offended. Karl[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That's a "Bible Thumper." You have my condolences.
73,
ai4ep
08-12-2003, 03:25 PM
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif weeeeell, I sort of look at RELIGION is this simple form : As long as you are praying to god, lord, the holy spirit, who ever is your GOD up above, in what ever form or fashion....as long as you are asking forgiveness for your sins ( no matter how big or slight )...you dont even have to go to church ( you can pray at your key board now, or in your vehicle, or when by your base rig, or when you are mowing the yard, etc. Then you are fine. ) If however you are talking in a good way to LUCIFER, or the devil, then you are not showing due respect to GOD. GOOD always win over EVIL...the past proves it. It does not matter if you are catholic, baptist, church of christ, etc..they all pray to GOD ( in their own way, which is good ) it does not matter to me which church or religion is the most popular or which was first, or which has the most corruption in it, or which church has gays, lepers, left handed guitar players, etc. It is still a place built for worshipping GOD the Almighty Father. Just as there are many styles of homes and businesses, there are many styles of CHURCHES. Nothing wrong with that. God is always listening to our prayers...true they dont always get answered, or answered in the way we THINK we want them to be answered at that moment in time, but HE does hear all our prayers. And he notices that we take the time to talk to HIM. Some say that computers are the work of the DEVIL, but any thing, even a stick of wood can be used for evil. ----ok nit pickers, and athiests and devil worshippers ..have fun ---- PRAISE the LORD
KB1JCY
08-12-2003, 04:28 PM
KB3JLZ:
I did see the original item. There was a version with the Domo-Kun.
Rest of the group:
Can we have a laugh without someone being all pedantic and starting a flame fest?
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Next joke:
A priest, a rabbi, and a minister walks into a bar. The bar tender says "What are you guys, a cliche?"
Karl, KI4BDS says, "I am not a BIBLE thumper, whatever that is,I'm a Christian which is the difference between Man seeking a God and GOD seeking Man. #I didnt find it funny and I just came from the worst place on earth, the Washington Burn Center in DC, 2 people died from Sun.to Wed. Of course I dont find Seinfeld funny and I dont find Will and Grace #to have any social value. What are you going to say when GOd asks you, "Did you read your Bible cover to cover?" #I'm offended. Karl"
Karl, Karl, Karl... You need to lighten up and have a beer, dood. Yes, the burn unit is a terrible place. No question.
This posting was just meant as a bit of humor. I'd say that in reality, VERY FEW of us are in favor of killing kittens. The smallest minority -- no more than 10 to 15 percent of us. 20 percent tops.
By the way, Seinfeld is utterly hilarious. Especially that episode where they bet each other who could go the longest as "master of their own domain," if you get my drift. Did you see that one? HOO HA!!! You should check out the reruns. You might really like it!
On the radio, my favorite program is the Howard Stern Show. (Baba Booey. Baba Booey.) Do you get that show down in 4-land? The guy is a genius, and has revolutionized broadcast radio.
Well, gotta run. Have a good one. A good COLD one, that is!
Haw!
Out.
Well, I missed something. What is a quick key? TOM (slow key) K8ERV
Oh, by the way....
A Jew, a Hindu, a Buddhist, and an atheist all died the same day, and were taking the introductory tour of Heaven. God was leading them down a long hallway. They walked past one room, and there were dozens of Jews dancing the horah, sipping Maneschewitz wine, and having a great time. #They passed another room, and there were several Episcopalians sedately enjoying some wine and cheese and a few laughs. Then they passed a room where the door was closed.
One of the new "residents" asked God who was in there. God said, "Shhhhhh! Those are the Bible Thumpers, and they think they are the only ones up here!"
Shalom aleikhem
Pax
Peace
Out.
p.s. - "Quick keying" is kerchunking, I think.
w3bny
08-12-2003, 05:23 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kb1jcy @ Aug. 12 2003,09:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">KB3JLZ:
I did see the original item. There was a version with the Domo-Kun.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Yep thats the one. My brother sent it to me. Couldnt stop laughing.
King Bunny 3rd! HAW!!!
Where did you get that cartoon?
KB1JCY
08-12-2003, 06:30 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K8ERV @ Aug. 12 2003,05<!--emo&http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well, I missed something. What is a quick key? TOM (slow key) K8ERV[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
It's a term used in my area. It's when stations transmit just after the courtesy tone and don't leave room for other stations to break in. Some operators on a repeater I use frequently don't even wait for the courtesy tone. Proper operating practice is to wait a few seconds after the courtesy tone.
Not too long ago, I had a roadside emergency and I tried to get into the machine while a roundtable was in session. I called "break" but was ignored. I had to crank up the wattage and double over a station and had to keep shouting "break" until I was acknowledged. I was in the breakdown lane of an Interstate highway and wanted to get help quick.
It's frustrating to no end. That particular repeater is one of the most active in the area. Many of my friends are on it and I've met new friends while in roundtables. I have a 5 watt HT, I'm constantly doubled over and blown off the air by less considerate operators.
Last week, somebody commented that I had dropped out of the roundtable in progress. I had dropped out because was doubled over twice in 10 minutes. I was this --> <-- close to attacking the group on-air about their operating practices.
I could of started a dramafest but I designed that graphic so that I could have a laugh and share a laugh. The secondary effect was that I intended those who use that machine and read QRZ to see that graphic I posted.
KC5ZQM
08-12-2003, 06:45 PM
Kerchunking is keying up a radio without identifying to see if a repeater is working. #Quick keying is keying up on a repeater during a conversation as soon as the other person unkeys and before the repeater's timer resets, or before someone else can break in.
Both are annoying, and quick keying can prevent someone from breaking in with an emergency or other vital traffic.
The point is to think about how your operating practices can affect others - but don't get too carried away!
My favorite example of "gallows humor:"
The pilots that flew the Agent Orange missions in Vietnam had a sign in their ready room postioned where they could read it on the way to start another run. #It said, "Only you can prevent forrests."
ke4pjw
08-12-2003, 08:32 PM
God kills cats and dogs everyday, because he has to.
Especially if you "Quick Key" the repeater, Mu-Wah-Ha-Ha!
KC9ECI
08-12-2003, 09:14 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB3JLZ @ Aug. 12 2003,05:26)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Well at least this thread didnt turn into code vs. no-code[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
That's because everyone knows God is pro-code. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif
And Satan applies for out-of-district Vanity Calls!
HAW!!!
I think God has been punishing QRZ.COM for all this here dang BLASPHEMY! Haaaalleloooooooooya!!!
The WRATH of the LORD will rain down on YE!!
Haw....
Amen.
And FM.
Out.
N8CPA
08-26-2003, 08:02 PM
I've always thought a nice repeater feature would be a speech recognition program that could shut off the machine if certain words and/or contexts are detected. It could be combined with a spectrum analyzer to block signals from the specific rig where the word emanated.
A further application would make the machine scream and die if a user used CB lingo on the air. After the scream, MCW would ID then SK. The machine would come back up after a certain time, announcing by voice the club policy or Part 97 infraction that caused the machine to die. Quick keying and refusal/failure to acknowledge an emergency "break," would just get a polite reminder on the first occasion. The actual block would apply on the second offense. Of course, an apology from the offending rig would then bring the user back into the machine's good graces. Repeat offenders could be personally Elmered by the staff, before removal of the block.
That might save a few of those kittens--along with the identity of Amateur Radio as a service category.
Steve