M0ZCW
12-03-2010, 01:58 AM
There seems to be too much of this happening over here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-11776623
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-11776623
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N4BBQ
12-03-2010, 02:27 AM
You're still number two in murders.
I'm amazed at what I read in the local papers, little on the national level over here in "God's Country"...
I'm amazed at what I read in the local papers, little on the national level over here in "God's Country"...
N1RKW
12-03-2010, 05:20 AM
Don't let the actions of one psychopath cast a pall over the good citizens of England.
K5FH
12-03-2010, 05:35 AM
There seems to be too much of this happening over here
There's too much of it happening everywhere. Psychopathy isn't a geographic phenomenon.
There's too much of it happening everywhere. Psychopathy isn't a geographic phenomenon.
K7VV
12-03-2010, 05:50 AM
the US is ranked number 46,
and the UK is ranked number 90.
according to Wiki, that is........
and the UK is ranked number 90.
according to Wiki, that is........
M3ONL
12-03-2010, 07:48 AM
There seems to be too much of this happening over here
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-11776623
If only the UK brought back the death penalty and rid the world of b*****ds like this, he'l be sat in his cell now trying to decide whether to play the xbox or watch sky tv and soon will be sat eating his christmas dinner. Yup the UK sure knows how to give these guys a hard time in prison.
Adrian
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lancashire-11776623
If only the UK brought back the death penalty and rid the world of b*****ds like this, he'l be sat in his cell now trying to decide whether to play the xbox or watch sky tv and soon will be sat eating his christmas dinner. Yup the UK sure knows how to give these guys a hard time in prison.
Adrian
2E0WHN
12-03-2010, 12:18 PM
Everyone form a cue. 1 minute of brutality then hot dogs for after.
Anyone wanting to show up for this event will need the following:
Knuckle dusters
aluminum baseball bat
24 volt battery and leads
night stick
any blunt weapon
Electric chair if you can smuggle it past the guards
Any pro MMA fighter
some large dogs with rabies
All legal if I ruled the world.
Maybe the death penalty should be allowed for cases such as this. If so, can I be the executioner?
Anyone wanting to show up for this event will need the following:
Knuckle dusters
aluminum baseball bat
24 volt battery and leads
night stick
any blunt weapon
Electric chair if you can smuggle it past the guards
Any pro MMA fighter
some large dogs with rabies
All legal if I ruled the world.
Maybe the death penalty should be allowed for cases such as this. If so, can I be the executioner?
G8ADD
12-03-2010, 12:25 PM
I agree that there is too much of it happening, and always has been, but what I can't understand is why anybody should feel shame for actions which take place which they cannot control or influence? The only reason that England would have for shame is if people like this were allowed to get away with it. Surely it is more a matter for quiet satisfaction that such actions would be deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished severely?
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Brian G8ADD
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Brian G8ADD
M3ONL
12-03-2010, 01:05 PM
I agree that there is too much of it happening, and always has been, but what I can't understand is why anybody should feel shame for actions which take place which they cannot control or influence? The only reason that England would have for shame is if people like this were allowed to get away with it. Surely it is more a matter for quiet satisfaction that such actions would be deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished severely?
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Brian G8ADD
So severely punished he now has the dilemma of choosing between call off duty or assains creed!!!!
Adrian
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Brian G8ADD
So severely punished he now has the dilemma of choosing between call off duty or assains creed!!!!
Adrian
G0BXU
12-03-2010, 01:14 PM
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................. such actions would be deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished severely?
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Brian G8ADD
I think that this is the point being raised by this thread Brian. Actions like this are "deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished" but not severely enough.
There are many perpetrators of such actions who are living a life of semi-luxury in our prisons, fed better than many pensioners can dream of, entertained with x-boxes, porn videos, drug supplies, Sky TV, and pool tables. Protected from attacks by 24 hour watches at huge expense to the public purse, why, they even put murderers on 'suicide watch' where I would give them a bit of rope and point out the hook on the back of the cell door. :D
It is time for a referendum on the return of the death penalty for these 'unmentionables'.
Where can there be any objection to the likes of Fred and Rose West, Ian Brady, Myra Hindley, Beverly Allit, John Venables et al. swinging from a rope in retribution for their horrendous crimes, I certainly wouldn't object and I know of no-one else who would defend their right to a comfortable life in a luxury prison, only to be released early in some cases to commit more offences.
My 2p worth.
................. such actions would be deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished severely?
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Brian G8ADD
I think that this is the point being raised by this thread Brian. Actions like this are "deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished" but not severely enough.
There are many perpetrators of such actions who are living a life of semi-luxury in our prisons, fed better than many pensioners can dream of, entertained with x-boxes, porn videos, drug supplies, Sky TV, and pool tables. Protected from attacks by 24 hour watches at huge expense to the public purse, why, they even put murderers on 'suicide watch' where I would give them a bit of rope and point out the hook on the back of the cell door. :D
It is time for a referendum on the return of the death penalty for these 'unmentionables'.
Where can there be any objection to the likes of Fred and Rose West, Ian Brady, Myra Hindley, Beverly Allit, John Venables et al. swinging from a rope in retribution for their horrendous crimes, I certainly wouldn't object and I know of no-one else who would defend their right to a comfortable life in a luxury prison, only to be released early in some cases to commit more offences.
My 2p worth.
WF7A
12-03-2010, 01:27 PM
England prides itself on its civility and to have one of its own beating a child to death is shameful.
...but at least there's a sense of shame. Here in the States, a malicious child death is just another sad statistic with a few sentences about it buried in a local newspaper somewhere. We've become so inured with violence and uncivilized behavior that horrific actions have become objects of entertainment instead of shame.
There's nothing more sobering than watching your own civilization self-destruct before your very eyes and within your own lifetime. :S
...but at least there's a sense of shame. Here in the States, a malicious child death is just another sad statistic with a few sentences about it buried in a local newspaper somewhere. We've become so inured with violence and uncivilized behavior that horrific actions have become objects of entertainment instead of shame.
There's nothing more sobering than watching your own civilization self-destruct before your very eyes and within your own lifetime. :S
N4WSH
12-03-2010, 02:02 PM
Very sad indeed. I say castration first without any local, then execution 24 hours after his whoo, whoo's were cut off. Oh, and video it on a cell phone so others who might even think about doing something similar can watch it.
AG3Y
12-03-2010, 02:36 PM
Nix on the cell phone video. It is amazing what kind of stuff "turns people on" ! ! !
G8ADD
12-03-2010, 04:06 PM
I think that this is the point being raised by this thread Brian. Actions like this are "deemed unacceptable, sought out and punished" but not severely enough.
There are many perpetrators of such actions who are living a life of semi-luxury in our prisons, fed better than many pensioners can dream of, entertained with x-boxes, porn videos, drug supplies, Sky TV, and pool tables. Protected from attacks by 24 hour watches at huge expense to the public purse, why, they even put murderers on 'suicide watch' where I would give them a bit of rope and point out the hook on the back of the cell door. :D
For me there can be no more severe penalty than loss of freedom, unable to go at will to walk through the woods and on the hills, feeling the wind on your face and watching the natural world going about its business. Deprived of those freedoms I would go nuts in a matter of months. By comparison death would be a kindness. Don't be in too much of a hurry to put these monsters out of their misery.
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Brian G8ADD
There are many perpetrators of such actions who are living a life of semi-luxury in our prisons, fed better than many pensioners can dream of, entertained with x-boxes, porn videos, drug supplies, Sky TV, and pool tables. Protected from attacks by 24 hour watches at huge expense to the public purse, why, they even put murderers on 'suicide watch' where I would give them a bit of rope and point out the hook on the back of the cell door. :D
For me there can be no more severe penalty than loss of freedom, unable to go at will to walk through the woods and on the hills, feeling the wind on your face and watching the natural world going about its business. Deprived of those freedoms I would go nuts in a matter of months. By comparison death would be a kindness. Don't be in too much of a hurry to put these monsters out of their misery.
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Brian G8ADD
G7HVL
12-03-2010, 04:30 PM
This part of the story has me baffled:
"The trial is expected to last three weeks."
Why? Other than it being an exercise in transfering money from the public purse into Lawyers wallets I can't for the life of me understand how this case is in any way complicated or ambiguous.
"The trial is expected to last three weeks."
Why? Other than it being an exercise in transfering money from the public purse into Lawyers wallets I can't for the life of me understand how this case is in any way complicated or ambiguous.
NA0AA
12-03-2010, 05:34 PM
IMHO, Part of your problem on that side of the pond [and no offence, just visited this spring, charming country], is that there's this feeling that the Gov't can regulate away violence and crazy people.
So far, you have taken away almost all guns, knives are limited and about to be taken away. This kid was beaten to death, are they going to outlaw HANDS next?
I feel bad that these cases happen, but as Tom Wolfe said, sometimes people just have "Bad Wiring". No way to cure that except after the fact I'm afraid.
So far, you have taken away almost all guns, knives are limited and about to be taken away. This kid was beaten to death, are they going to outlaw HANDS next?
I feel bad that these cases happen, but as Tom Wolfe said, sometimes people just have "Bad Wiring". No way to cure that except after the fact I'm afraid.
M0DCD
12-03-2010, 05:39 PM
I'm surprised that they intend to spend 3 weeks trying to get a jury to make it mind up. No doubt the defendant is getting legal aid, so we the UK taxpayer are paying for it. Chance are he'll also go for an appeal, also paid for by us. Not that we want anyone to not get representation, but it just says that pleading guilty gets you nowhere. It used to be the case if there was an admission of guilt they got a shorter sentence for it. Now they just keep spending our money.
The last call is always their "human rights", something they have often taken away from their victim.
Can we have the "Not the Nine O'clock News" sketch where it was suggested that long term prisoners should have the opportunity to buy their own cells?
The last call is always their "human rights", something they have often taken away from their victim.
Can we have the "Not the Nine O'clock News" sketch where it was suggested that long term prisoners should have the opportunity to buy their own cells?
W7KKK
12-03-2010, 05:46 PM
It's not just there OM.
Kids having kids without knowing anything.
Kids having kids without knowing anything.
