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K9STH
05-29-2003, 04:14 PM
I passed my Novice test on my 15th birthday, 13 February 1959, but due to the hand generated licenses back then, it came through dated 15 May and didn't arrive until the very end of the month. I have been active for all of the 44 years since.

Frankly, it has been my experience that, with a few exceptions, teenage amateur radio operators are a good "lot" of people. Of course, the same thing goes for those who are older, there are definitely a few "SOBs" around.

Most teenage operators are full of energy, have lots of ideas (although some do need to be "tempered"), and are willing to work at various amateur radio projects.

I don't know what the ARRL position is now, but I received appointment as an OVS ("Official VHF Station") when I was 16, and was appointed EC ("Emergency Coordinator") of LaPorte County, Indiana, when I was 17. The Indiana SCM ("Section Communications Manager") was definitely aware of my age when he made the appointments. But, at the time, there wasn't an older amateur who was willing to take on the job of EC.

The annimonsity that is directed from older amateurs towards teenage amateurs is usually unfounded. Unfortunately, the small minority of teenagers who have caused problems makes it a "trend" and older amateurs start treating every teenager in the same manner.

In my opinion, the main problem with teenagers is that they are a bit "headstrong" and don't take to criticism as well as the older group. This is true in "life", not just in the amateur radio arena. But, it is just as wrong for older amateurs to treat all teenagers as "dirt".

Teenage amateurs need to attend local club meetings, but they also need to get the "feel" of the organization before offering "suggestions" and "demands" on the organization. It has been my experience that if the teenager seeks out the most crusty "old tymer" there, that once the "crust" is broken through, that person makes the best "Elmer" that anyone could hope for. Usually, the "old tymer" will make the teenager work his/her tail off, learning all sorts of things by doing and not by just being told. But, even when the teenager fails at something (and he/she is bound to fail at times), the "Elmer" will use this experience as a learning tool and the newcomer will usually remember the lesson.

Teenagers need not only their "peers" to associate with, but they need to get with the general amateur populace as well. Too many teenagers these days avoid contacts with older amateurs and, by operating within their peer group primarily, get into some pretty bad operating habits. These operating habits become a reason why they cannot function with older amateurs. It is definitely a "circle".

I know that there are a number of teenager and young adult amateurs who read the postings on QRZ.com on a regular basis. Only a relative handful ever post. But, in my opinion, the teenage amateur radio operators are most welcome on this board and on the air as well. They just have to put aside the "chip" that some have on their shoulder and join in.

Glen, K9STH

KD5KUF
05-29-2003, 05:31 PM
Great article Glen. My teenage son (19) is an average kid, but when he picks up his microphone he is a stickler for operating his station by the rules, and good operating practices. Unlike many teenagers, his favorite ragchew contact is a handicapped older gentleman about 15 miles away. They have a lot of QSOs and enjoy talking to each other.

My son treats other hams with the utmost respect and requires the same from them. He is also a member of ARES and our county's Emergency Management. He deserves respect and none of the treatment I hear of, but fortunately have not encountered around here. We need thousands more just like him. They are out there, so find them and elmer them, and welcome them with open arms into the ham community. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

WA7KKP
05-29-2003, 07:59 PM
Yes, we need to encourage more teens into the hobby. But their lifestyle is more into "instant gratification" instead of planning and building for the future.

Those who are off the latter mindset should be found and helped in the right direction. The electronics industry is in need of people who can still handle audio, video, RF, and prototyping. There are too many (in my opinion) computer geeks out there whose only talent is knowing how to tweek someones software (we won't mention the NW giant of it all) to work as it is intended, or to hack into other systems with less than honorable intentions.

I think some of the deterrents to teens interested in ham radio are:

The image of ham radio being an expensive hobby.
The image of ham radio being an 'old folks hobby'
The image of ham radio being a male dominated hobbby.
The image that ham radio is not much more than CB radio.

I think it will be a long time before we can change those images. Until then, we'll see little interest amd a lot of apaathy among our youth and young adults.

FYI, I was first licenced in 1968 when I was 16.

Gary Hildebrand WA7KKP

KB1IPK
05-29-2003, 08:09 PM
Great article Glen,
Thank you for writing a good article about the teenage hams (at least the ones that obey the rules).
I am 14 years old and I got licensed back in July of last year. I then upgraded to general in the beginning of February and I hope to get my Extra before it's been a year.
Thanks again. Jonathan .... kb1ipk

KC8QMU
05-29-2003, 08:20 PM
I am 24 years old and have only been a ham since I was 22, but I have always had an interest in radio in some form or another. WA7KKP nailed it right on the head about people's assumptions of amateur radio. What I have learned about it is that it is all what you make of it. Sure, it would be nice to have a new FT-1000 sitting in front of me, a couple of towers with hf, vhf, and uhf, beams, a nice amplifier, etc., but I on't make that kind of money. So what did I do? I found some good used gear, put up a couple of vertical antennas, and built a wire antenna. I have enjoyed countless hours on my modest setup. My advice for any young person thinking of getting into the hobby would be to work through there theory books and code practice one day at a time, be patient, and don't give up, if they're really interested the will do exactly this. This hobby isn't about "instant gratification", and nice big stations aren't built in a day(with my budget anyway). But the slamming of the kids from a few of our more "seasoned operators" definitely has to stop. If they can't criticize something more constructively they need to keep quiet. The worst part of what has been going on is the people who seem to find their jollies beating up on the young ops could actually be teaching them something on here instead. Slam a door in somebody's face enough, and I guarantee you that they will leave. And everybody wonders where the "new" hams are at. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

WA9UAA
05-29-2003, 08:44 PM
Hi Glen,
Yes, a good post, I have found that kindness and encouragement go a long way towards a person's development. Trying to look at young people (or anybody else) as individuals rather than assigning each a stereotype is important. I do appreciate young people that wait and learn the ropes in any situation. There have been some young people treated unfairly on this board and I hope they learn that the entire amateur community is made up of individuals and that we are all different. We as adults need to understand that young people at various stages of development tend to lean toward stereotyping of adults as well and it is up to the adults in those situations to take the high moral ground. I would look askance at an adult with a shirt on which was written, " God isn't finished with me yet." Give our young people a chance or two or...
Rob WA9UAA

KC9CNN
05-30-2003, 01:55 AM
If you are the only ham in the family it is hard to get around to meetings and such. In my opinion, the current establishment does NOT extend their hand to younger operators out there. For example, my friend submitted his membership dues and everything required for an amateur club in Chicago (CFMC). A few weeks later they told him that it would be 3-4 months before he could join the club since they needed to "vote" him in since he couldn't make any meetings. Come on people! "We" are just trying to support your repeater systems as you have asked for and yet you can't make concessions for us because we can't drive 2 hours to and from your meeting. CFMC even offers youth rates, so they obviously support young amateurs. If they keep being hypocritical and I will send my money to another club as my friend is doing. My 2 cents.

kd5scg
05-30-2003, 02:13 AM
Great article glen,
I passed my tech test in april 02 when I was 13, now, in a month, I'm going to be 15, and I still haven't found any negative attitudes towards me because of my age. In fact, I have found that most hams are more inclined to talk to younger hams. The ARRL on the other hand, hasn't done much for youth in ham radio as far as I can tell. They offered me a youth rate, but when I went to renew on the website, I couldn't find any information about the youth rate. I call them up on the phone, and the operator doesn't know anything about youth rates either, that's funny, I have a paper from them that says I am elegible. Anyway, I digress.
I have the feeling that I will be doing a lot of ham radio this summer, see you (hear you?) on the air.
Jack,
KD5SCG

KB1JVI
05-31-2003, 02:50 AM
I am a 19-year old HAM'er who has just received his license. My first real club function will be Field Day due to my work schedule. The club I am in was thrilled to have three young people (including myself) in the class. Teenagers and the younger youth are the future of Amature Radio. If you shun them away it will push them away forever (my church has this problem). You have to show them that you won't jump down their throats whenever they do something wrong (but not illegal).

kd5icr
06-08-2003, 05:27 AM
THE AMATEURS CODE

First published in the ARRL Handbook, and reprinted many times since
We can do well to bear it in mind at all times.

The Amateur is Considerate:
And never knowingly uses the air in such a way as to lessen the pleasure of others.

The Amateur is Loyal:
And offers loyalty, encouragement and support to fellow radio amateurs,
through which Amateur Radio is represented.

The Amateur is Progressive:
Keeping the station abreast of science.
It is well-built and efficient, and ALL operating practice is above reproach.

The Amateur is Friendly
Slow and patient sending when requested,
friendly advice and counsel to the beginner,
kindly assistance, co-operation and consideration for the interests of others;
these are marks of the amateur spirit.

The Amateur is Balanced:
Radio is a hobby, never allowing it to interfere with any
of the duties one owes to home, job, school, or community.

The Amateur is Patriotic :
The aquired knowledge and station equipment are
always ready for the service of country and community.

Remember these words.
73 kd5icr

KD7WHQ
06-08-2003, 06:33 AM
Anyone comes to me, and honestly says "I want to be a ham," will have my help.
I may have just gotten my ticket,but at the same time I am 43, and a third generation ham..
I don't care if they are 8, 18, or 28... Age is no issue...