almost got arrested today

Stopped into my local radio shack today and saw a good deal on a 10 meter radio, I figured I would give it a shot. I got the attention of the sales girl and told her I would like the radio. When she went to ring me up I told her she should have asked my ham license, and it was illegal for her to sell the radio to anyone without a license. She looked at me, smirked, rolled her eyes and proceeded to ring up the transaction. I again told her no! this is very serious and it was important to do this to help protect our air waves. She shook her head and said "sir its not that big a deal" I said if she continued to violate the law I would have to call and report her to riley hollingsworth and the FCC! I told her to call her manager over. She told me he was too busy setting up someone's cell phone, and she wouldn't waste his time with such ridiculous stuff. I told her I was not leaving till she abided by the law. She proceeded to call strip mall security on me. At this time I picked up my phone and called the police. Security came into the store and I told him what happened. He asked me to please go and I said not till the police got there. This is when he forcefully grabbed me and took me towards the back of the store. When the police finally arrived the sales girl ran to the front of the store and out the door to them. I tried to follow so I could tell them what was going on but the security held me back. By now I was pretty embarrassed as there where a few families in the radio shack watching me being held down by security. Finally the police took me aside and asked me what was going on. I told them that what the sales clerk was doing was illegal and to have her arrested for violating federal law. I told the officer if he needed the statue we could look on the computer in the radio shack show room on the FCC website. This is the part that really gets me. He looked at me like I had a 3rd head and asked why I wasted his time to come out there for something like this. I told him I don't think he knows how serious this is. He said "no one cares about your CB set guy, I should take you to jail for this" and him and his partner walked me out of the radio shack and put me in the back of the patrol car. By now I knew I was in way over my head, but still didn't understand what was wrong with these people, I guess non hams don't understand. Well, to make it worse the police came out the radio shack a few moments later and charged me with trespass and stalking. I was ordered to stay out of the store and away from the clerk. they also told me if it happened again I would be subject to arrest. I couldn't believe my ears! They made me fill out some paperwork and released me. So tell me something my fellow hams? what is this world coming to when the good guys get in trouble for following the rules and people who don't give a crap keep selling radios to non licensed individuals?

[K9STH]

Unfortunately, you were in the wrong! It is not illegal in the United States to sell an amateur radio transceiver to an unlicensed person. In many ways I wish that it was a requirement. However, under present FCC regulations, anyone can purchase amateur equipment.

What is illegal is for someone without a license to transmit using this equipment.

Thus, Mr. Diet Soda (Publix supermarkets are only in the southeastern US), whoever you are, you were rightfully arrested!

Glen, K9STH
One of the QRZ.com moderators

[KG6MSO]

And people wonder what would happen should HAMS police CB freqs.... This is what would happen....

http://www.thehighroad.org/images/smilies/banghead.gif

[N0PU]

And we got people saying the testing is adequate...
Sure hope this one doesn't make the papers...
Good Grief...

[n0xu]

Assuming what you describe actually happened, I suggest you seek professional psychological help without delay. You might be totally in the right, but you went way overboard, my friend.

Assuming it didn't happen, I hereby nominate you for this year's Pulitzer Prize for fiction.

73, Drew N0XU

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n0xu @ May 28 2003,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Assuming what you describe actually happened, I suggest you seek professional psychological help without delay. You might be totally in the right, but you went way overboard, my friend.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Drew,

He was not in the right. There is no law against a non-ham owning equipment capable of transmitting on amateur frequencies. All the laws and rules deal with actually transmitting using that equipment.

Many amateur radio instructors suggest that prospective hams purchase an inexpensive radio and listen to it (and only listen) to get a &quot;feel&quot; for what happens on the airwaves.

[N6HBJ]

DIETSODA, you are an idiot.

[XV2PS]

Sorry guys, I am not in the game, but I must say I laughed a lot.
I can imagine that guy. Without pity.
I can imagine that guy of good principles making that mess in the shop, and suddenly to go from right up to the lowest imaginable profile.
Then up again with the post, then down again with the replies. I like that. I always also wonder why people use so &quot;simple name&quot; without their real identification. I guess that diet soda is out of date http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (XV2PS @ May 28 2003,21:04)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I always also wonder why people use so &quot;simple name&quot; without their real identification. I guess that diet soda is out of date http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Personally, I always suspect it is because they are not licensed, and thus do not have a call sign... but I know at least one on here (Phineas, by nickname) does have a call sign that he posts occasionally, so I can only assume that perhaps he signed up before he got his call sign... or just doesn't wanna put it up on EVERY message.

[XV2PS]

Maybe we ask him, but I am not sure he will show off... http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[ad5st]

Arrested is usually not a good thing.

While I completely agree that Diet Soda was ignorant of the law and really shouldn't have done that (see proberb above), part of me admires his standing up for what he believed. #It's a character trait that's far too missing in today's society. #Now we shouldn't all jump overboard quite that far -- no, not near that far, and at least get the facts straight -- but occasionally we should take a stand for this or that. #Common sense is required, and referencing the proverb above once again might be in order.

I'm saddened that the clerk at Radio Shack seemed to not know about the license requirement to transmit on that rig, or probably know anything about ham radio; but it does not surprise me either.


73,

Wayne KC5ECO
Arlington, TX
off to listen to code.

[XV2PS]

quoted by KC5ECO:&quot;Now we shouldn't all jump overboard quite that far &quot;

quoted from Mr. Soda:
&quot;I told them that what the sales clerk was doing was illegal and to have her arrested for violating federal law&quot;

Isn't that too far?

Give a lesson to a girl that was just doing her job. And I can tell you how sales people have to swallow spits from king customers.

Anyway, this week is boring empty, I have nothing else to do than to post.

[WA2ZDY]

Folks, your chains have been thoroughly yanked. It's funny to picture such a thing in my local mall though. Maybe I'll go stake out the local Radio Shaft and see if I can see such a thing really happen. That would be worth the price of admission!

[n0xu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD7UKT @ May 27 2003,22:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (n0xu @ May 28 2003,19:56)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Assuming what you describe actually happened, I suggest you seek professional psychological help without delay. You might be totally in the right, but you went way overboard, my friend.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Drew,

He was not in the right. There is no law against a non-ham owning equipment capable of transmitting on amateur frequencies. All the laws and rules deal with actually transmitting using that equipment.

Many amateur radio instructors suggest that prospective hams purchase an inexpensive radio and listen to it (and only listen) to get a &quot;feel&quot; for what happens on the airwaves.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
David:

You're absolutely right. I worded that poorly. What I meant was &quot;Even if you were totally in the right, you went way overboard...&quot;.

Drew

[KD5KUF]

One of Murphy's laws is &quot;No good deed goes unpunished&quot; and this one if not Murphy's should have been. &quot;In an argument, just when you are totally convinced you are in the right, recheck your hole card.&quot; On second thought that may have been my Dad's saying. Oh well. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

By the way. The old military strategy is &quot; Pick Your battles wisely&quot;.

[KG6OPR]

Well, look at the Brite side there is one more HTX-10 to be had...........Go get um.
# # # # # # # 73's From The Peoples Republic Of California.
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #KG6OPR http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD7KOY]

Pleeeeez say this is'nt true..it's a joke right? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

No one would do this..er...I mean it's weird...this has to be a joke...yea..thats it..a joke.. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WA2ZDY @ May 29 2003,03:15)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Folks, your chains have been thoroughly yanked.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I agree with this... we have been royally had, methinks.

[w9ass]

Is this guy for real?

I got a good laugh out of that one, not just because he got arrested at RadioShack, but that he may have considered purchasing that 69$ 10 meter mobile that looks like it was glued together by a 4 year old..

73,

KC9DGM

[N0FFA]

Holy Smokes! This is no ordinary troll! This cat is outfitted with a purpose built center console boat, custom rods, Penn 50's, Sabiki rigs, and some Zen-like ability to throw his/her/itself into a trance to understand the correct bait!

You've all been hooked, gaffed, gutted and thrown in the cooler. I just hope you're served with the right wine and a delicate bed of couscous. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif [I]

[N0PU]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0OXQ @ May 29 2003,12:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Holy Smokes! This is no ordinary troll! This cat is outfitted with a purpose built center console boat, custom rods, Penn 50's, Sabiki rigs, and some Zen-like ability to throw his/her/itself into a trance to understand the correct bait!

You've all been hooked, gaffed, gutted and thrown in the cooler. #I just hope you're served with the right wine and a delicate bed of couscous. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif [I][/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Your description is a work of art; Complete and Concise yet it has an eloquence far beyond its humble meaning.

I hate to tell you tho, in the 30+ years I have been a Ham, I have seen a lot of newbies come and go. They come into this Service as if they were God's own gift to Ham Radio. Now don't get me wrong, enthusiasm is a good thing. The problem is that most of them come from backgrounds where they are fed a lot of bad info. So you combine all that garbage in their brains, all that enthusiasm, add just a touch of stupid and it makes a lethal mixture.

This senario could have happened. I know people [and THIS part worries me] who might actually do something like this.

That aside: OXQ, you sir, are an artist. Your words paint pictures. That was the best damned offcoast fishing rig I have ever seen. Even the dinner was complete.. couscous.. too cool...

[kg6pcf]

WOW.... Did they break out the rubber gloves and was the sales girl hot?

Mike

[KC8QMU]

Boy, did some of you fall for that or what? As much as I dislike the state of Radio Shack these days, I would find it hard to believe that someone that works off of sales commission would be that rude for no reason! They are quite lacking in knowledge when it comes to anything but cellphones, though. Oh yes, and there are hotties that actually do work at radio shack! When I built my 75m antenna last year, I ran in to Radio Shack for some 300 ohm twin-lead. After I showed the hottie what it was, we went back to the register, she leaned over the case and showed me the cellphone that was on special. Now usually I don't listen to their sales promotions, but I...... err..... couldn't refuse to listen to that one, though! (and no, is didn't buy one)
73, George

[KC5ZQM]

PublixDietSoda shoud consider changing his handle. #Sometimes the Storm Prediction Center issues a PDS Tornado watch, with PDS meaning Particulary Dangerous Situation.
What concerns me is his ignorance of FCC regs. #If he couldn't quote &quot;chapter and verse&quot; he should have had the clerk set aside the radio while he went to check on it. #Don't know if he has a military background, but I clearly remember what my drill sgts. said about the word assume. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif #Sure sounds like it applies here. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif
BTW, do any hotties work for radio sack in the Tulsa area? I'm single and looking.

[kc0fde]

Sounds like a teen girl made a fool and a criminal out of a lunatic...go figure

I suggest that if we want youngblood to join our ranks QST should have The Girls of Radio Shack special issue.

Actually at my local RS the manager has her general and most of the staff has tickets. I've seen one salesman almost read the riot act to a customer that was buying a GMRS radio. He made sure the fellow understood that he could (and made it sound like 'would') be fined $10,000 if he transmitted without the $75 license. They are very good at hunting down the specials that hams like (remember the 20A supply for $70 a few months back?) and making sure that their store is well stocked.

-73

Joe

[KC8QMU]

Ah yes.... The Girls of Radio Shack....... wrapped in a plastic cover behind the counter of a convinience store near you! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif But I can't get over how many of you believe this story to actually be true! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif BTW- the girl behind the counter WAS HOTTER THAN- well you know where. As I said, I usually don't listen to their sphiles, but she was just leaning over the glass counter and........... nevermind. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w9ass]

Now that you mention it, there were a few girls from Radioshack that were pretty good looking. I remember a few hot numbers that applied for jobs and my boss didn't even look at their apps or resumes when I was working there back in the day. That really ticked me off too, I was beginning to feel that our work environment didn't have a &quot;softer&quot; touch, so to speak.

Prior to that, I worked at the lowest volume-sales store in the Chicagoland area prior to its closing. I was under a 25 year-old female manager and....man, that's all I have to say about that one...

I must have been 18 or 19 years old, and I was not a model employee. I was too busy chasing the girls with my eyes and putting the BACK IN 5 MINUTES sign on the door as I ...imbibed, I guess. RS wasn't my life and as long as I got a short paycheck, I was going to undress every decent young female customer with my eyes.

Since then, I have reformed tremendously. But I can see where these guys are coming from..Makes me wish I was married, or blind, one or the other...I love to ramble.

73,

KC9DGM

[ai4ep]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif wonder how many stories the QRZ MODERATORS have had to &quot;not print &quot; from folks telling stories about romance at a radio shack ( makes you wonder ) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[n7wsb]

After reading this I think he deserves what he got actually - especially as I work in the customer service business (I do tech support). Here's a tip - if your not pleasant to deal with job 1 is not doing you a service anymore - its getting you to go away and hopefully not come back (and no my wage doesn't care if you return the product, tell everyone how much of a bastard our company is etc).

I can't technically call the cops - but I can put people on time out hold, threaten them with not being able to solve their problem, or send you off to your oem because your machine is too messed up to function (actually this threat works well for people who can't read menu items too) - stuff like that.

[ka1ogm]

The trick with any story is suspension of disbelief. On the other hand, the trick in arguing with authority is to be fully conversant with the uncertainty principle. Anyone who claims to be totally certain of anything is liable to be slapped in the head by Heisenberg... or, in this case, the local police!

Jeff
KA1OGM

[W1RFI]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w7com @ May 28 2003,19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I suggest that if we want youngblood to join our ranks QST should have The Girls of Radio Shack special issue.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Did you make that suggestion to the Editor? :-) I bet that one would become THE collector's issue of the whole set! My personal copy will be up for sale on eBay, to raise money for the ARRL spectrum-defense fund, of course. :-)

73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI

[KB1GYQ]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W1RFI @ May 30 2003,07:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w7com @ May 28 2003,19:24)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I suggest that if we want youngblood to join our ranks QST should have The Girls of Radio Shack special issue.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Did you make that suggestion to the Editor? :-) #I bet that one would become THE collector's issue of the whole set! #My personal copy will be up for sale on eBay, to raise money for the ARRL spectrum-defense fund, of course. :-)

73,
Ed Hare, W1RFI[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Make it &quot;the girls of amateur radio&quot;, forget that ratshack thing; guys want to know they can talk to these ladies on the air.

Unless that issue of QST is available on the newsstand, be prepared for a large number of members(opps i mean subscribers) to sign up just for that one month.

Have at it! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[W5KRM]

The April addition of QST was already released a month ago. Sorry this story missed it!

I guess in the end, he didn't buy the 10 meter rig then?

Kinda like Radio Shack's catalog that states something to the effect you must present your license when purchasing amateur radio equipment from them. Doesn't make it illegal. Just as stating you &quot;Cannot bring a concealed weapon into this store&quot; doesn't hold water either. You have to abide by specific posts that are sanctioned by the state, etc. Just because you show a hand gun witha slah across it isn't a legal sign. You would be surprised how many people think because something is state, it mush be legal/illegal!

Too bad the police didn't wail on him. Would make for interesting footage on the local news network!

[KC8QMU]

I CANT BELIEVE HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE FALLEN AND CONTINUE TO BE FALLING FOR THIS STORY! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg6pcf @ May 29 2003,12:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">WOW.... Did they break out the rubber gloves and was the sales girl hot?

Mike[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now this description paints a picture! Rubber gloves and hot sales girls!

This whole scenario could be the storyboard for a new Blink182 Video. A cheesy little strip mall setting, closeups of lots o' piercings/tats and scarily endowed washed up porno star models! With the right cover art and some really bad reviews, we'd make millions!

[N0PU]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0OXQ @ May 30 2003,16:28)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg6pcf @ May 29 2003,12:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">WOW.... Did they break out the rubber gloves and was the sales girl hot?

Mike[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Now this description paints a picture! #Rubber gloves and hot sales girls!

This whole scenario could be the storyboard for a new Blink182 Video. #A cheesy little strip mall setting, closeups of lots o' piercings/tats and scarily endowed washed up porno star models! With the right cover art and some really bad reviews, we'd make millions![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I take it back...
You're not talented...
You're warped...
I LIKE that in a person....
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD7LDH]

Yes the &quot;Electronics Now Nerdy Chicks Issue&quot;


For rat shack maybe a Cellphone salesgirl thing

Oh yeah I went to ratshack last week cuz I needed coax for my 2 meter rig (just bought off ebay) and they were out of rg-8 so the guy was all like yeah just use a 75 foot run of RG-58

I was like yeah whatever









# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # -KD7LDH

[kc0kvu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD7LDH @ May 30 2003,19:13)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes the &quot;Electronics Now Nerdy Chicks Issue&quot;


For rat shack maybe a Cellphone salesgirl thing

Oh yeah I went to ratshack last week cuz I needed coax for my 2 meter rig (just bought off ebay) and they were out of rg-8 so the guy was all like yeah just use a 75 foot run of RG-58

I was like yeah whatever









# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # -KD7LDH[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
...this is MY United States of whatevah!

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[kd6efv]

Very entertaining thread. What? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[WA7KKP]

All snide replys pushed to the side . . . .

I believe it was Radio Shack policy not to sell ham gear without proof of licence. I bet someone complained about RS selling 2 meter HT's to unlicenced persons who probably jammed a repeater somewhere, or other similar incident. I'm sure pressure from the ham community made them implement said policy.

Now if we could do that to truck stops selling export CB radios under the guise of 10 meter 'Amateur' radios to truckers who invade our 10 meter band.

I think someone overreacted to the situation, and that is why the police were called. I would have simply taken my business elsewhere.

Gary Hildebrand WA7KKP

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WA7KKP @ May 31 2003,04:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Now if we could do that to truck stops selling export CB radios under the guise of 10 meter 'Amateur' radios to truckers who invade our 10 meter band.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I'd think the Lot Lizards would try form a union with a big PAC fund aimed at keeping truck stops from selling 10m radios. They could then expand their product base from their present limited offerings. Can't ya just see 'em out in the lot hawking radios, echo units, hamsticks, bootleg amps and those cool little valve stem thingies that light up when they rotate!

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (MattBeers @ May 31 2003,02:43)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Diet Baby, if you have a ham license, please turn it in on the grounds that your behavior is too stupid for any other ham to want to identify with you.

2) #Local police have no jurisdiction in arresting someone who violated a Federal law anway - even though she didn't.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Matt Beers, if you have a ham license, please turn it in on the grounds that the above quoted post is an embarrassment to every ham in the nation.

1) Local police have not only the right, but the DUTY to arrest anyone for any violation of any law that is in force in their jurisdiction, including Federal statutes. As long as they have (a) an arrest warrant, (b) probable cause to believe a crime has occurred, or &copy; actually witnessed the crime themselves, they can haul you in. Therefore, if the RadioShack clerk had violated any Federal laws, the police would have been perfectly correct in arresting her.

[kd5kfl]

&quot;I believe it was Radio Shack policy not to sell ham gear without proof of licence.&quot;

No. Local Radio Shack owner says he could be sued if he did that.

Parents can buy their kid an HTX-10, tell him he gets it when he passes the license. Person studying for a license can buy an HTX-10, learn CW off the air.

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (WA7KKP @ May 31 2003,04:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I believe it was Radio Shack policy not to sell ham gear without proof of licence. #I bet someone complained about RS selling 2 meter HT's to unlicenced persons who probably jammed a repeater somewhere, or other similar incident. #I'm sure pressure from the ham community made them implement said policy.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Radio Shack policy on sales of amatuer radio transmitters as published on their website:

Note:
You must have a Technician Class or higher Amateur Radio Operator's License, and a call sign issued by the FCC, to legally transmit using this transceiver. Transmitting without a license carries heavy penalties.

Getting a license is easier than ever. See &quot;Introduction to Amateur Radio&quot; in Faxback Doc. # 58621 for more information.

[n4tia]

LOL, I think this is kind of funny! If I went to buy a radio and the sales lady just rang it up and bagged it for me I would just giver her the money and be done with it, but I quess I am a lazy one, 73
Alexander KG4OGN

[W8FAX]

..........why can't we all just get along??????........
diet popper, or whatever, you sure missed the boat.......

[KC8QMU]

IT'S EVEN FUNNIER THAT THIS MANY OF YOU STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THAT THIS STORY IS A HOAX!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8QMU @ May 31 2003,13:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">IT'S EVEN FUNNIER THAT THIS MANY OF YOU STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THAT THIS STORY IS A HOAX!!!! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
And I bet you are the hoaxster!

What is the saddest part of all is that, considering some of the people here and on the air, there really are hams &quot;stoopid&quot; enough to do what the original message said.

Give some guys a license and an HT with a speaker mic, and they think they are the radio police. Fortunately, some of them either grow out of it with the help of an Elmer, or get so frustrated that they quit.

[KC8QMU]

Quote (KC8QMU @ May 31 2003,13:29)
IT'S EVEN FUNNIER THAT THIS MANY OF YOU STILL HAVEN'T FIGURED OUT THAT THIS STORY IS A HOAX!!!!

And I bet you are the hoaxster!

What is the saddest part of all is that, considering some of the people here and on the air, there really are hams &quot;stoopid&quot; enough to do what the original message said.

Give some guys a license and an HT with a speaker mic, and they think they are the radio police. Fortunately, some of them either grow out of it with the help of an Elmer, or get so frustrated that they quit



HAHA,

I can assure you that I am not the hoaxster, my friend! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif You can ask the moderators to check the IP addresses if you wish. I can't stand diet soda anyway, give me a cold beer or water please! But you are right; I can picture &quot;psycho-ham&quot; going in and bugging the cashier about this a little, but the tip off of the story is when she called security so fast over this, and he gets treated like he is trying to steal the cash register! Also, look how colorfully the story is narrated, not to mention the fact that the original poster hasn't even replied to this thread since he started it! But it this thread has made an entertaining read any way. Maybe soda boy had the national guard called on him at a hamfest, and he maybe in military detainment. That could be why we haven't heard from him since the original post! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8QMU @ May 31 2003,15:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"># # # I can assure you that I am not the hoaxster, my friend! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif # You can ask the moderators to check the IP addresses if you wish.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
IP Addresses don't mean a thing, man... I posted the earlier message from work, and now I am posting this from home. Two different IP addresses on those two different ISPs. I also have NetZero installed on this PC, so I can choose between 3 different ISPs, with each one giving a different IP address. So you could still be the hoaxster. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[W5HTW]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8QMU @ May 31 2003,16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, look how colorfully the story is narrated, not to mention the fact that the original poster hasn't even replied to this thread since he started it! But it this thread has made an entertaining read any way. Maybe soda boy had the national guard called on him at a hamfest, and he maybe in military detainment. That could be why we haven't heard from him since the original post! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If I were the original poster of this story, I would have put my head in a sack and moved to Brazil. The jungles of Brazil. If it was a hoax, he is laughing so hard he is shaking too much to get to the keyboard. If it was serious, he has sold his computer, sworn off diet soda, and is on a tramp steamer headed for the above-mentioned jungles. He is also taking along the foot-extraction device, two of them, which makes it hard to work them both on the mouth at the same time.

Ed

[n8juq]

As Senator Bob Dole &reg; Kansas, once said in a TV commercial &quot;He's a Duffus&quot;.

There is absolutely NO law that prevents anybody, ie. non-licensed customers, from buying Ham radio equipment. How the heck could Santa Claus fill wish lists on Christmas? You only need to be licensed to OPERATE. The key word is Operate.

N8JUQ/AG

[KC0QBV]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (W5KRM @ May 30 2003,09:53)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">#Just because you show a hand gun witha slah across it isn't a legal sign. You would be surprised how many people think because something is state, it mush be legal/illegal![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Howdy Tex. Yes, that imfamous 30.06 sign. One of the better parts of the TX law dealing with CCW.

Do you know if the Galleria in Dallas has proper 30.06 signs? I lived in Dallas right as the law was going into effect, and I remember news articles about how most of the malls were placing signs, but I don't recall if I ever saw any in the N. Dallas area (although I would be surprised if they didn't have them in Plano).

-derek

[w3sy]

Actually, I'm surprised to see PublixDietSoda back here. Didn't he &quot;leave&quot; the QRZ forum in shame a few months ago after taking it in the shorts in a &quot;flame war&quot; he started himself? After he was verbally smacked down, he vowed never to return. Yet, he's back.

So much for his integrity.

One of two things is true, and neither speaks very well of SodaBoy:

1) The story is true. In this case SodaBoy wins big points for Freakin' Imbecile of the Year. His ignorance of the law is exceeded only by his lack of social skills. Even if it were illegal to sell a ham rig without seeing proper ID, what's the point of making a stink at some Rat Shack in East Podunk? That would have all the global impact of an Environment Freak tossing blood on some blue-haired lady's mink coat. Here's hoping his next stunt lands him in the county lockup, where he'll have no shortage of &quot;dates.&quot;

2) The story is false. In this case, SodaBoy (Apprentice Troll Fourth Class), STILL lamenting his lack of success with &quot;anything female&quot; (go find the old FLAME thread to read about his problems), and starved for attention, posts an elaborate fantasy about being a one-boy crusade against Ten Meter intruders. Perhaps he DOES fantasize about being arrested and tossed in the joint with other sociopaths. At least he'd have something in common with his new roomies --- THEY are looking for a &quot;girlfriend&quot; too.

Enjoyable thread, though. Wotta geek....

Out.

p.s. My favorite line was the one about looking for the &quot;statue.&quot; Would that be the &quot;Statue of Libertations?&quot; Haw... (Apologies to Archie Bunker.)

Out. Way out.

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ June 02 2003,09:23)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Perhaps he DOES fantasize about being arrested and tossed in the joint with other sociopaths. At least he'd have something in common with his new roomies --- THEY are looking for a &quot;girlfriend&quot; too.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
WOW.... Did they break out the rubber gloves and was the matron hot?

(apologies for the plagiarism Mike)

[KC5ZQM]

Don't know if it actually happened, but I can see how it could. #Sold auto parts for years, seen my share of goof ball customers. #PDS might even have been one of mine.
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KC8QMU]

IP Addresses don't mean a thing, man... I posted the earlier message from work, and now I am posting this from home. Two different IP addresses on those two different ISPs. I also have NetZero installed on this PC, so I can choose between 3 different ISPs, with each one giving a different IP address. So you could still be the hoaxster


Yes, this is true, but i guarantee you that I am too lazy to actually go through all this trouble just to get a bunch of guys in cyberspace all riled up. I have much easier means of entertainment...... ie firing up the hf rig on 75 at night , etc ,etc.

W5HTW, yes , very deep in the jungles of Brazil. Outer Slobovia might be better..... less chance of being found. I just hope he packed an extra hydraulic cylinder for the foot extraction device, he's gonna need it!

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8QMU @ June 02 2003,12:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Yes, this is true, but i guarantee you that I am too lazy to actually go through all this trouble just to get a bunch of guys in cyberspace all riled up. #I have much easier means of entertainment.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
And we have only your word for this, too... face it, OM, the first one to claim to know, for certain, that it is a hoax is bound to be suspected of being the hoaxster.

You know what they say, it is better to keep one's mouth shut, and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.

Besides, you are protesting that you are NOT the hoaxster far too much. That is also bound to raise suspicions.

Lots of circumstantial evidence here, OM.

[ke2iv]

Thank goodness a few of your know it....

NO ONE IN THE U.S. NEEDS TO HAVE AN AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE TO BUY AN AMATUER RADIO!!!!

After all. How would your favorite non-ham honey be able to buy you that Mark V for your birthday all by her/himself if that were the case?

THINK ABOUT IT.

Yeah, you need a license to transmit - but not to buy!!!!

Geez....it's true...The more things change the more they stay the.....
http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[AB6ND]

If merely owning something that could be used in an illegal manner is an offense, he is lucky the young lady in Radio Shack didn't accuse him of rape. 73 AB6ND

[k3sam]

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>WoW !</span>
We have started at buying a radio to felony rape. #Almost full circle. #Only in <span style='color:blue'>AMERICA</span> !

-Sam

[K1ZC]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ke2iv @ June 03 2003,00:18)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">After all. #How would your favorite non-ham honey be able to buy you that Mark V for your birthday all by her/himself if that were the case?[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
I have been looking for a honey like that - does she have a sister? #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[w3sy]

May it please the court, y'honor...

Ummm, in defense of George KC8QMU, George (age 25) appears to be a bit older than Pre-pubescentDietSoda, who I believe is somewhere in the 16 to 19 year old bracket (based on previous discussions, and his apparent level of emotional maturity). Also, George is a General Class licensee. PubliclyHumiliatedDietSoda is a &quot;Code Playa Hata&quot; with few prospects of ever passing a code test.

Stilllllllll..... It's fair to ask why George is so sure the story is a hoax. I'm leaning that way, but I'm not 100% convinced... yet. As I said in my last posting, SodaBoy is enough of a jerk to EITHER get involved in a scrape like that OR post it as a hoax (or in his case, a fantasy).

Perhaps George can't believe anyone would do something SO FRIGGIN' STUPID... but then again, he doesn't know the SodaBoy.

George... Whaddaya know, buddy? Place your hand on the Bible....

Haw!!!

Out.

[KC8QMU]

OK let's see,

When she went to ring me up I told her she should have asked my ham license, and it was illegal for her to sell the radio to anyone without a license. She looked at me, smirked, rolled her eyes and proceeded to ring up the transaction. I again told her no! this is very serious and it was important to do this to help protect our air waves. She shook her head and said &quot;sir its not that big a deal

Sure, the girl that is making commission off of a sale to a ham is going to get this kind of an attitude towards him during the sale. Not to mention the red ass from her manager after the customer complains about his treatment to him in front of all the potential customers.

This is when he forcefully grabbed me and took me towards the back of the store.

Ummmmmm.... if mall security was called to remove him from the store, why would they be taking him to the back of the store? Seems obvious to me that they would escort him out the front door.

Well, to make it worse the police came out the radio shack a few moments later and charged me with trespass and stalking. I was ordered to stay out of the store and away from the clerk. they also told me if it happened again I would be subject to arrest. I couldn't believe my ears! They made me fill out some paperwork and released me.

Ummmmmm.... charged with trespass and stalking and then released after paperwork?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif?? Released?...... Ummmmmm....when's the court date?!

All of these pages of replies and there have been no updates from sodaboy?

And thank you W3SY for giving me some credit....... but you actually put the cap on something and didn't know it......

Also, George is a General Class licensee. PubliclyHumiliatedDietSoda is a &quot;Code Playa Hata&quot; with few prospects of ever passing a code test.

Umm... lets assume that this actually happened..... Soda Boy believes that the appropriate license class needs to be shown in order to purchase the equipment in question...................
Then...........if this was his belief..... WHY WOULD HE TAKE HIS NO CODE TECH LICENSE TO BUY A 10 METER RADIO!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
(as I remove my hand from the bible)

[w3sy]

Good one George... But my take on the story was that he never INTENDED to buy the rig. He was just there to test Rat Shack to see if they WOULD sell a no-account LID like himself a radio without ID.

My take was that he was there (according to his tale) just to try to prove some point.

Damn -- I have to admit that I'm having fun with this. oooohhh, the shame!

har...

[KC8QMU]

Yeah , you could be right. But to me, soda boy left too many loopholes. I think he umm... got too bored in his room one day and decided to write a story. But I could be wrong, some people are that stupid! But this tall tale has bs written all over it. To me, anyway. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[XV2PS]

Maybe it's a hoax, but I've seen so many arrogant idiots (even in my bathroom mirror) in my short life that it unfortunately looks 100% possible.

Publix Tomato Juice

[kg4rrm]

Here's my take on it

IF he is telling the truth, shouldn't he be out here telling us that it's real and we have it all wrong.

IF he not telling the truth, wouldn't he not hang around. Funny though, he hasn't come back to say its a hoax and get his laughs.

Its soundes fake to me, or else, wouldn't Fox News be all over this.

[K9STH]

Unfortunately, I have known several people who were ignorant enough to do what was said. Whether or not the post is a hoax is to be seen. However, if it was, then Mr. Publix has has a good laugh. If it wasn't, then he (or maybe even a she!) did something very stupid and may find misdeomeaner charges filed against him (or her).

I haven't heard that Radio Shack has informed all of their employees to ask for an amateur radio license before selling such equipment. I do think that the salespeople should ask if the person is licensed and if not, to explain briefly the consequences of transmitting without a license. Of course, a fair number of people who are studying for their license do buy equipment before they become licensed. Fortunately, the vast majority of these people don't transmit until they do get their license.

Under present FCC regulations it is not illegal to purchase / posess any transmitting device. It is just illegal for someone without the proper license to activate the transmitter. In some countries it is illegal for someone without a license to posess transmitting devices. In fact, there are a number of countries in which you have to have a license to even own a receiver (i.e. the United Kingdom), even a broadcast or a television set.

Anyway, since Publix Food Stores are only located in the southeastern United States (that I know of anyway!), the person who wrote the original message probably is confined to just a few states! I do know that my wife's sister shops at Publix in Panana City Beach, Florida, and that one has opened relatively near my youngest daughter's house north of Atlanta, Georgia.

Glen, K9STH

[NY7Q]

I personally do not believe this story.I think someone has too much time on his/her hands.

[w3sy]

Glen, I do believe PatheticDietSoda is actually a boy. Do you remember how he one whined about girls at his school bypassing him for guys whe were more attractive, athletic, intelligent, interesting, etc etc etc?

Now in a related story that has just crossed the W3SY News Desk... (cue the teletypewriter sound effects...) chucka chucka chucka chucka chucka chucka... In a related story, PerplexedDietSoda caused quite a stir at a truck stop in East Podunk, Missitucky when he climbed into the cab of a truck containing an illegal Chicken Band &quot;Leenyer&quot; and refused to leave. He also blocked the exit of the truck stop with his 1996 Saturn (definite &quot;chick car&quot;) and refused to move it until he was allowed to search all the trucks for illegal Rat Shack transmitting equipment. Truck Stop security and the Highway Patrol were summoned to the scene, and PatheticDietSoda was placed under arrest. He was later released to the custody of a big, burly, hairy trucker named Skeeter, who &quot;had taken a shine to&quot; the young lad.

... And they lived happily ever after.

The End.

Out.

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC8QMU @ June 03 2003,11:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Also, George is a General Class licensee. PubliclyHumiliatedDietSoda is a &quot;Code Playa Hata&quot; #with few prospects of ever passing a code test.

Umm... lets assume that this actually happened..... Soda Boy believes that the appropriate license class needs to be shown in order to purchase the equipment in question...................
Then...........if this was his belief..... WHY WOULD HE TAKE HIS NO CODE TECH LICENSE TO BUY A 10 METER RADIO!!!!!!! #BWAHAHAHAHAHA![/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Evidence for the Prosecution...

I have read the original post 3 times, and even run a computer search, and can find no mention of the word &quot;tech&quot; or &quot;technician&quot; or even &quot;code&quot; in it. How, then, does George know that Publix is a Technician without Code?

Also, looking at Publix's QRZ.com profile, I find no mention there, or in his message, of his call sign, which makes it impossible to look up his license status.

Admittedly, an earlier message from Publix could have indicated his license class, but if memory serves, someone mentioned that he had not posted for some time, and in that time he could have upgraded his license, regardless of George's opinions on the likelihood of that occurring.

Yes, George is innocent until proven guilty, but it seems to me that every time he puts his fingers on his keyboard, he provides more evidence against himself.

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K9STH @ June 03 2003,18:22)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Anyway, since Publix Food Stores are only located in the southeastern United States (that I know of anyway!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif, the person who wrote the original message probably is confined to just a few states! #I do know that my wife's sister shops at Publix in Panana City Beach, Florida, and that one has opened relatively near my youngest daughter's house north of Atlanta, Georgia.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Glen,

Since Florida is such a popular tourist destination, it is not only possible but probable that people who live in other parts of the nation (and maybe even Canadians!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif are familiar with it.

As for me, I freely admit that I have family in Florida, and I remember going to the Publix when visiting them. I have also mentioned how easy it would be to post under a different IP address, so I guess that might make me a suspect in the hoaxing. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[K9STH]

UKT:

You are definitely correct in the fact that Florida is definitely a tourist / snowbird location.

My sister-in-law complains about the influx of the Canadians from late November to around April in the Panhandle of Florida (Panama City Beach).

Thus, I hadn't thought about it. But, if Publix is not of &quot;legal&quot; age, then it is more likely that he is a native of Florida, Georgia, Alabama, etc. Most people in that category don't take much notice of the names of the supermarkets!

Glen, K9STH

[N5CTI]

May it please the court...

Steve W3SY first mentioned in this thread that PubixDietSoda is renowned for his contempt of CW, which would render him then, and likely now, as a Technician, and by extension, probably not George KC8QMU, who is a known General.

Only after this did George address the point of the offender being a Technician.

I request that Your Honor suppress this supposed evidence as groundless and not pertinent to the case at hand.

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

[K9STH]

SY:

I wonder if &quot;Skeeter&quot; is the same burly, rough-looking truck driver that I saw at a small truck stop about 30 miles south of Wichita Falls, Texas, a few years back. He got out of one of the largest rigs that I had ever seen, he looked more like a true &quot;biker&quot; (Hell's Angels type) than a truck driver, then walked around to the passenger side of his truck. He then took out the smallest, &quot;tea cup&quot; sized poodle that I have ever seen. The dog was all &quot;pretty&quot; with her pink bows and such. She &quot;strutted&quot; around the parking lot like she owned it. The driver then picked her up, got in the truck and drove off!

Glen, K9STH

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (N5CTI @ June 04 2003,09:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Steve W3SY first mentioned in this thread that PubixDietSoda is renowned for his contempt of CW, which would render him then, and likely now, as a Technician, and by extension, probably not George KC8QMU, who is a known General.

Only after this did George address the point of the offender being a Technician.

I request that Your Honor suppress this supposed evidence as groundless and not pertinent to the case at hand.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
May it please the court (of public opinion):

I put it to the court that contempt for CW and the requirement thereof does not have any relevance to the subject's ability to pass a CW test and thus get a General class license. It is quite possible that the subject's contempt for CW is born out of an intensive study of same, which would place the subject in a position to complete the CW testing while holding his opinion intact.

As a broader example, we all have things we &quot;hold in contempt&quot; but do anyway. Many people hold their employers, or at least their immediate supervisors, in contempt, yet they still work for that company and follow that supervisor's directions. Many people also hold speed limit laws in contempt, but watch how slow they drive when they see a marked police car. The opinion does not have a great impact on their actions.

I ask the court consider the evidence as admissable, based on the above argument.

[KC2KQH]

If it is illegal for a non-ham to own ham equipment, I am guilty, for I had my 2 meter HT about 2 weeks before my license.
Ryan Ayares

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC2KQH @ June 04 2003,16:39)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">If it is illegal for a non-ham to own ham equipment, I am guilty, for I had my 2 meter HT about 2 weeks before my license.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Fear not, Ryan, it is NOT illegal for a non-ham to own equipment. However, it IS illegal for a non-ham to OPERATE ham equipment.

[w9ass]

Man, someone has to go back to school!

Look in the instruction manual for an HTX-242 Mobile unit. It states that you must have a technician class license or higher and a callsign to transmit. Otherwise, listen all you want. If thats a crime, I'm doing 25 to life..

But most of us knew this...MOST of us...

73,

KC9DGM

[K4YZ]

I completely understand your motivation and intent, but in a nation that thumbs it's nose at speed limits, says it's OK to have babies out of wedlock, winks not once but twice at drug use and FAILS to impeach a president caught lying, why did you think selling a radio was going to get anyone's attention?

73

Steve, K4CAP/K4YZ

[n0xu]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (K4YZ @ June 03 2003,20:29)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">&lt;snip&gt;...and FAILS to impeach a president caught lying...&lt;snip&gt;[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
You think Clinton invented lying as president?http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif Get a grip, my friend...

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD7UKT @ June 04 2003,18:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fear not, Ryan, it is NOT illegal for a non-ham to own equipment. However, it IS illegal for a non-ham to OPERATE ham equipment.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Monitoring transmissions constitues 'operating' the equipment. Monitoring is not illegal.

Consider an emergency exists. Is it then illegal for a non licensed person to transmit?

Fear not Ryan, you get good advice here! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[KD7UKT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KC0OXQ @ June 05 2003,02:54)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif5--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KD7UKT @ June 04 2003,18http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif5)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fear not, Ryan, it is NOT illegal for a non-ham to own equipment. However, it IS illegal for a non-ham to OPERATE ham equipment.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Monitoring transmissions constitues 'operating' the equipment. Monitoring is not illegal.

Consider an emergency exists. #Is it then illegal for a non licensed person to transmit?

Fear not Ryan, you get good advice here! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oops, I mis-spoke (mis-typed?). It is illegal to TRANSMIT before you have your license.

And, in an emergency, if there is no other way to summon assistance, it is OK to transmit without a license, or outside of the frequencies assigned to your license class.

[K9STH]

YZ:

Like Andrew Johnson, William Jefferson Clinton WAS impeached! Like Andrew Johnson, he was NOT convicted by the Senate. There is a difference.

Glen, K9STH

[WB2GOF]

And Nixon resigned before the Senate could get to impeach him.... What's your point here?

[WA4FLA]

Diet soda You are certifiable for a looney bin

[w3sy]

Funny that Pube-lessDietSoda has not yet come back to explain himself.

Junior Troll 4th Class PatheticDietSoda has LEFT the building....

Mike (WB2GOF) -- In the words of the immortal Teddy Kennedy (let's genuflect when we mention that name) - &quot;Errr aaahhh... err aaahhh.. let me say this about thaaahhht...&quot;

Out.

[kg6pcf]

HMMMM... cant resist

How about Ted Kennedy, a HOT sales girl and rubber gloves http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mike

[N0FFA]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg6pcf @ June 06 2003,09:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HMMMM... cant resist

How about Ted Kennedy, a HOT sales girl and rubber gloves #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mike[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Oh man! You just ruined my mental image of the whole hot sales girl thing!

[WB2GOF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kg6pcf @ June 06 2003,12:38)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">HMMMM... cant resist

How about Ted Kennedy, a HOT sales girl and rubber gloves #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Mike[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
We'll drive off of that bridge when we come to it.....

[KG6OPR]

......Yeah you forgot to add an Oldsmoblie and Murkey Water.................
# # # # 73's From The Peoples Republic Of California
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # #KG6OPR
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # ps.DUMP DAVIS! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[WA6CAW]

AllllRight on Davis!!!!!

Another PRC citizen.......

Recall before we pay 3.00 dollars for a gallon of gas for road services, 500.00 dollars for vehicle registration, and, 7.00 bucks for a pack of cigarettes.......uuuuuhhhhhh, maybe I'll vote for that one. But 10.00 dollars for a bottle of cheap wine, well that will raise the &quot;will work for wine&quot; signs at the off ramps too!!

[w3sy]

.... and when our friends in 2-land, who gave us Senator Hillary, help give us PRESIDENT Hillary in a few years, we'll ALL be paying prices like that out the bung.

Gee, I'm SO looking forward to half my pay (or more) going to support illegal aliens, lifetime criminals, and the &quot;don't wanna - don't hafta&quot; crowd.

Heh... Welcome to the QRZ Political Hour. Sure beats rehashing PublicDisgraceDietSoda's arrest and imprisonment fantasies.

HAW!!!!!!!

[N0KLT]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (w3sy @ June 07 2003,12:07)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">&lt;snip&gt;

Gee, I'm SO looking forward to half my pay (or more) going to support illegal aliens, lifetime criminals, and the &quot;don't wanna - don't hafta&quot; crowd.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Don't kid yourself, you already are in one way or another. If not in taxes then in indirect costs and hidden taxes. That is unless you have found away to beat the system and hide your income someway.

73

Gary NØKLT

[kf7qq]

no offense to the &quot;Radio Shack nark&quot;, but you violated everyone's peace, by making that stupid scene.

There is always police academy, for you, whoever you are. 73, and much luck to you. Try not to get hurt ok?

[w3sy]

Hi Gary N0KLT,

Yeah, I know I'm already being bled dry. Perhaps President Hillary will try to take it ALL --- Total income redistribution.

Da, Komrade!

THANKS 2-LAND!!

(Okay, to be fair, I don't know a single New Yorker who will claims to have voted for her -- So how did she get elected? Answer me that.)

KF7QQ -- You can tell him that if he ever resurfaces. Meanwhile, the little troll has slithered off in disgrace -- FOR A SECOND TIME!

Haw.

Out.

[kg6pcf]

Ewwww......

How can we have the term &quot;Hot Chick&quot; and Hillary even mentioned on the same page let alone same thread. That beast has seen more carpet than Standley Steamer. My God, I bet she leaves the seat up.

Yuck, Hillary... woman...aint right. Make it stop!!!!!!!!!!

Mike

[g4rek]

I see you are not short of people just looking for trouble over there as well. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[w3sy]

Easy for us schmucks to say &quot;make it stop,&quot; but why did so many 2-Landers vote for her for Senate? She won in a landslide!

I just need someone to explain how someone can be from Illinois... then live in Arkansas for umpteen years... then run for Senate in NY State and win handily.

I doubt she would have won in the off-the-left-edge Peoples Demokratiche Republic of Maryland -- and that's SAYING something! How did NY end up buying her particular brand of Socialistic Horse Excrement?

[KG6OPR]

Well it looks like Old Lady Clinton has got her book out today. Big deal I say who wants to spend money on that Trash anyway? ...........Oh sorry the bleedin' hearts here on the left coast will buy it. You will more then likely see it in paperback at the supermarket checkout right next to Martha Stewert. I'm sick of this Crap. And whats frightining she might get into the White House and move Martha Stewert and al the Hollyweird cronies in with her. You can bet it wont be Ballicky Bill. Anyway I'm going to Barnes &amp; Nobile and ask the clerk for her book and give the #clerk what for For not asking me if I was a Liberal. Hitler burned books I'll start out and burn mine in the parking lot of Barnes &amp; Nobles..........Can't waite for Gray Dumba.. to come out with his book. I'll do the same...Waite a minute I wont be able to afford it if he keeps going as he is in California!
# # # # # 73's From The Peoples Republic Of California
# # # # # # # # # # # # # #KG6OPR
# # # # # # # # ps.DUMP DAVIS http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

[KB1GYQ]

How can a woman who can't remember a thing that happened at her law firm write memoirs?? I knew I don't need an expensive blank book.

[w3ab]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Fear not, Ryan, it is NOT illegal for a non-ham to own equipment. However, it IS illegal for a non-ham to OPERATE ham equipment. [/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>

I don't think so. Otherwise, how do all these kids in schools and camps and such talk to the space station? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

I believe the statement should have been, However, it IS illegal for a non-ham to OPERATE ham equipment unsupervised. I can't quote chapter and verse but I know there is someone here who can, and will. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

GEO

[kf7qq]

I think we have been had by Madonna.

[KC8QMU]

I think we have been had by Madonna.

Hmmmm. I could take that a couple of different ways. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif But it sounds like a good time to me! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[n0xu]

http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0--></span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (kf7qq @ June 11 2003,19http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think we have been had by Madonna.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
If I were had by Madonna, I'd sue for palimony!