Do you own a realled Toyota.??

[AC4BB]

Do you own or have you owned a Toyota that has been recalled for accelerator pedal problems.?

No,I've never owned a Toyota.
Yes I own a recalled Toyota model.

[KB3SYZ]

Everyone that owns a Lexus needs to pop the hood and look at the sticker. It's a Toyota.

[W7KKK]

I have a Sienna Van which apparently one of the few models that did not get recalled.
I have owned at one time nearly all makes and many models of cars.
They all get recalls at one time or another.
I worry more about having to do other than normal maintenance on cars on a regular basis.
If I find myself with one of those it's history.

[KA9MOT]

You missed: I wouldn't own Toyota. That is the one I would have checked!

1995 Ford F-150! 15 years old, 300,000 miles, still pretty and it LIVES in the RUST BOWL!

ToyTOTA can't touch that. I think this recall stuff would be hilarious if so many had not died.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/kc0rey/HPIM0332.jpg

[W7KKK]

I didn't miss a thing.
As stated, I have owned them all.
This is my 3rd Toyota in my life.
I had lots of Ford Pickups(F150, F250 and F350 thank you) over the years with lots of recalls.
So what, most of the work is minor in nature with all of them.

[KA9MOT]

I didn't miss a thing.
As stated, I have owned them all.
This is my 3rd Toyota in my life.
I had lots of Ford Pickups(F150, F250 and F350 thank you) over the years with lots of recalls.
So what, most of the work is minor in nature with all of them.

You sure took that personally......

I didn't say you missed anything. I said the OP missed "I wouldn't own a Toyota" in his list of choices.....That really makes it a busted poll......

I've owned lots of vehicles including one Toyota. My experience with it was it ran very well for a very long time while the body rapidly rusted away and it had a cheap interior which is where you spend most of your time........that and the cost of replacement parts was high.

I showed a picture of my truck as an example of how it should be done.

Yes, most recalls are minor....very few cover a whole manufacturer's line-up and involve peoples dieing.

It's Ford, Chevy and Dodge for me.......Did I mention I have owned a few Hondas? Little crap boxes would run/rust forever, but that was like being married to an ugly woman. It was OK as long as your friends didn't see you. :) :D

[W7KKK]

Just stating facts.
I grew up with my father as a car dealer. He was a partner in a large dealership in CA who had Fiat, Studebaker and Toyota (one of the first in the US).
I have probably owned more cars that many of you will ever own in a lifetime and I had been around the business via my father for years until his death.
Recalls mean very little other than a little inconvenience to most.
Reliability is more key to most of us when in comes to cars in our daily live.

[W7KKK]

Just stating facts.
I grew up with my father as a car dealer. He was a partner in a large dealership in CA who had Fiat, Studebaker ( loved the Avanti!) and Toyota (one of the first in the US). The main reason my father and his partner took the dealership on was to get the Land Cruiser which appeared tougher than the Jeep of the day. Nobody dreamed the little Corona would be a hit.
I have probably owned more cars that many of you will ever own in a lifetime and I had been around the business via my father for years until his death.
Recalls mean very little other than a little inconvenience to most.
Reliability is more key to most of us when in comes to cars in our daily live.
Toyotas, like any other brand have had their problems over the years too and I cannot name one brand that has not.

[VE3FMC]

You missed: I wouldn't own Toyota. That is the one I would have checked!

1995 Ford F-150! 15 years old, 300,000 miles, still pretty and it LIVES in the RUST BOWL!

ToyTOTA can't touch that. I think this recall stuff would be hilarious if so many had not died.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/kc0rey/HPIM0332.jpg

Dude that is one fine looking 15 year old F-150 :) Built Ford Tough.

Funny how for many years people thought Toyota was "The Car Manufacturer"

Now they run into this mess and trust me this is a mess they are in. Recalls of this size are not an easy thing to hide and get past.

I know all about recalls as I worked in the auto industry for 28 years and my company was involved in recalls.

Publicity like this hurts sales for some time after the problem is solved.

Never owned a Toyota, never will. I have driven Ford's since 1980 and have owned numerous Ford products. No problems with any of them. They paid my wages for 28 years and continue to pay my pension. So I support my company.

[KA9MOT]

I've been a Ford guy all my life as well. I have owned other brands because basically I could afford them and chose not to walk.

I like Ford and Ford has treated me the best. The Ford vs. Chevy battle is one I fought for years.

Recently, I find myself supporting the Big 3. The Import car companies have put a serious hurt on our auto industry (regardless of where it is built, Toyota is a import car company). Somehow, they have fooled the American Public into believing they build a better product and that product is American Made. They are assembled in America, with foreign materials and all profits go overseas. Crap is Crap regardless of what that add on TV tells you.

I also blame the Unions.

There are Ford models I avoid like the plaque though. The Windstar and Exploder being two.

There are those who claim that many American cars are made in Canada and Mexico. America is a Continent and Canada is part of that continent and I believe Mexico as well. No matter there, in 10 years we'll all be sneaking into Mexico looking for a good job.

Finally, I wish I could take credit for my old trucks condition......I recently swapped a $400 Dodge minivan for it. The previous owner had 2 kids and hooked up with a woman who had 4....They needed more seats. :D :D :D

Oh yeah! That Dodge van had 280K on the clock and only a little rust. It is a 1999 model.

[W7KKK]

Yep, Ford has a truck plant or two in Mexico. And I don't want to hear that they are not brought into this country, I know better.
When I bought a Ford I rather liked those that were assembled by the union folks at the Kansas City Plant as I remember. But my last one was an F-350 Dually Diesel for towing our heavy 5th wheel.
And I can remember 4 recalls while I had it, all very minor.

[KA9MOT]

OH yeah, I just remembered another true story.

My buddy and Elmer Harold KA9NRT owned a 1999 Isuzu Pick-up truck. That truck was babied and only had 32,000 miles on it. It sat in his driveway and was never driven in the winter. The body slowly rusted away but not to badly.

One morning Harold woke up bright and early, went out to his truck and headed for his doctors office. On the way Harold being Harold drifted away into a day dream about his old railroad days, and rear ended a car that was waiting to turn left.

The damage to both vehicles was pretty light, they did the cop/insurance thing and proceeded on his way. Harold noticed that old truck was driving kind of weird and when he got to the doctors office he discovered the bed was pressed up against the cab. He called the towing company out and as they were winching he truck up on the rollback the truck separated into 2 pieces.

The frame had rusted through and the accident was the straw that broke the Isuzu's back. Harold sold it to the junkman for $35. The junkman sold the engine for $600.

[KA9MOT]

The last three Ford trucks I purchased (2 f-250 4X4 and the F-150 I am driving now) all had stickers that said Proudly made in Kentucky USA.

I don't know what they do with the trucks made in Mexico. As far as I am concerned they could assemble a Ford Truck n Moscow and it would still be American Made, although I would gripe about it's assembly point. Ford is after all, and American company, and a company that built the backbone of this country.

Opinionated aint I?

[N4WSH]

I'm a big VW fan, so I have a restored 1966 Beetle and a Limited Production 2003 New Beetle Turbo S. My wife drives a 2008 Scion xB which is built by Toyota. What is interesting to me is the accelerator pedal in the Scion looks exactly like those in the recalled vehicles, Hmmmmm?

If I was to buy any American made vehicle it would be a Ford simply because they didn't take any bailout money.

[KA9MOT]

Look, There is nothing cooler then an old bug..............I like the old VW vans as well.

I don't think anybody would mistake one for dependable, but man, what fun!


If I was to buy any American made vehicle it would be a Ford simply because they didn't take any bailout money.

There is that!

[N4WSH]

Look, There is nothing cooler then an old bug..............I like the old VW vans as well.

I don't think anybody would mistake one for dependable, but man, what fun!



There is that!

Plus I LOVE the new Ford Flex, except for the $34,000.00 price tag I'd have one in a heartbeat.

[KA9MOT]

Oh Yeah! The Flex is cool.
I wasn't aware that it cost that much.......5 or 6 years from now, it will be affordable for most of us....15 years from now, I'll be able to afford one. :D

[AB1GA]

Do you own or have you owned a Toyota that has been recalled for accelerator pedal problems.?


I don't recall. :confused:

[N4WSH]

Oh Yeah! The Flex is cool.
I wasn't aware that it cost that much.......5 or 6 years from now, it will be affordable for most of us....15 years from now, I'll be able to afford one. :D

My wife has always been into boxy looking vehicles and that is why she wanted the Scion xB. The Ford Flex is like a bigger version of her xB. She loves the car, but not the price. Our fully loaded xB, which has the 4 cyl Camry engine was just a bit over $18,000.00 and that included a 7 year 75,000 warranty with free oil changes every three months for 5 years. It was a deal we couldn't pass up. It has never been in the shop of anything, yet ;) and we are very happy with it, but a bigger boxy vehicle like the Flex would be sweet.

[KC2USH]

You missed: I wouldn't own Toyota. That is the one I would have checked!

1995 Ford F-150! 15 years old, 300,000 miles, still pretty and it LIVES in the RUST BOWL!

ToyTOTA can't touch that. I think this recall stuff would be hilarious if so many had not died.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk34/kc0rey/HPIM0332.jpg
WOW! ive always loved fords never owned one (im 15 years old) my dad has had them as long as i can remeber but thats one nice looking ford!

[VE3FMC]

You can not blame the Unions for the problems of the Big Three. Being a former active member of the CAW I can not once recall when our Union held a gun to the bargaining crew from Ford and forced them to hand us what they did. Not once.

In 28 years of being an active member I can only recall a couple of short strikes at contract time. So again we did not force the company to give us what we bargained for.

You have to remember this fact. During the glory years of the Big Three they were making MILLIONS of profit every month. For 10 straight years the plant I worked at ran production for 96 hours a week. Every hour of production saw 66 Crown Vics or Grand Marquis roll off the line. Those cars made a huge profit for Ford Mo Co. The labor cost per vehicle at the time was well under $800/unit.

So tell me, how can you blame the wages and benefits of the Union when Ford reaped millions of dollars in profit every week for 10 straight years?

The Big Three failed to properly invest those profits and they also failed to design and build more fuel efficient vehicles.

Ford bought too many other companies. They should have stuck to deigning and building their own products.

Now they have figured out how the game is played.

My Union recently gave concessions to Ford Canada. What did they get in return? A plant that will close sometime in 2011 throwing 1600 people out of work. Gee Thanks Ford Motor Company, we gave, and you just took away.

I realize it is part of a business plant that Ford has. But it still hurts to see us bargain in good faith, open up our contract and then have Ford turn around and mothball a very productive plant. We gave Ford what they wanted, in return they close a plant. Fair bargaining? You do the math

But those that blame the Unions are off base. I tend to think it might be a little jealousy that you being a non union worker are not earning the same money and do not have the same benefits that Union members do.

You need to remember that Unions have also helped make working conditions better for non union workers. That is a well known fact.

I actually discussed the problems of Toyota last night with another Amateur in CA. He told me he believes Toyota would have tried to keep this gas pedal problem undercover. If it had not been the fact that a member of the law enforcement and his family were killed in an accident while driving a Toyota. Plus the other accidents that involved the faulty gas pedals.

You can not tell me that Toyota did not know about this problem long before it came out in the press. They sure as hell did, they tried to hide it.

Millions of vehicles to be recalled. Damned if I can remember Ford having to recall MILLIONS of vehicles at one time.

FORD FOREVER.

[AB3MV]

You missed: I wouldn't own Toyota. That is the one I would have checked!

1995 Ford F-150! 15 years old, 300,000 miles, still pretty and it LIVES in the RUST BOWL!

ToyTOTA can't touch that. I think this recall stuff would be hilarious if so many had not died.


I own currently own two Toyota vehicles. I used to own a Ford SUV, which was a money pit.

[KA9MOT]

I own currently own two Toyota vehicles. I used to own a Ford SUV, which was a money pit.

I'm not sure I would call an Escape a SUV. For me a SUV has real 4 wheel drive. When I think of an Escape I think of a Front wheel platform which would place it more in the car trying to be a SUV.

Escapes are money pits. I'd never own one.

[AB3MV]

I'm not sure I would call an Escape a SUV. For me a SUV has real 4 wheel drive. When I think of an Escape I think of a Front wheel platform which would place it more in the car trying to be a SUV.


Technically, Escapes are all-wheel drive vehicles. However, they are classified as an SUV. I had SUV plates on my Escape before getting ham tags.


Escapes are money pits. I'd never own one.

Other than Trucks, most of the vehicles that Ford manufactures are money pits compared to their Japanese counterparts. Like it or not, the Japanese reputation for building solid cars was earned.

[KA9MOT]

Technically, Escapes are all-wheel drive vehicles. However, they are classified as an SUV. I had SUV plates on my Escape before getting ham tags.

They are available in an All Wheel Drive configuration. They are also available in Front Wheel Drive. In an All Wheel Drive configuration, most of the power is delivered to the front wheels and only a percentage is sent to the rear. Still Front Wheel Drive with Rear Wheel Assist if you will.

That is not 4X4. You'll see that I stated "For Me" in my post. That means "How I see it". I'll bet this isn't the only thing your state and I don't see the same. Real SUV have 4 wheel drive. Some examples would be, Jeep Cherokee, Full Size Chevy Blazer, Ford Bronco and Bronco II, Dodge Ramcharger and Durango. Toyota 4-Runner, Nissan Xterra. These are just some examples and it is not a complete list. An SUV is built to go off road.

I have some pictures of mu old Bronco II climbing a waterfall and another climbing a hill that shows my back bumper dragging the ground because the hill was so steep.




Other than Trucks, most of the vehicles that Ford manufactures are money pits compared to their Japanese counterparts. Like it or not, the Japanese reputation for building solid cars was earned.

I disagree (we can still do that can't we?). Some of Ford's models are junk. You have to admit that models like the Taurus, Crown Victoria, Mustang are very reliable and popular. The new Focus spanked the Corolla in Motor Trends Car of the Year feature this year.

The other American manufacturers have good quality cars as well. They also have some junk.

The proof is in these recalls, not because Toyota made some mistakes but because even when people were dying, Toyota tried to cover it up......

They must think very highly of their customers...........Some times brand loyalty can be misplaced.

[VE3FMC]

The proof is in these recalls, not because Toyota made some mistakes but because even when people were dying, Toyota tried to cover it up......

They must think very highly of their customers...........Some times brand loyalty can be misplaced.

You hit the nail right on the head. I wonder how long Toyota would have let this problem slide if there had not been as many deaths as there was involving their products?

[KA9MOT]

I don't think the number of deaths concerned them at all. I think what forced them into action was the publicity the deaths got.

The other manufacturers need to take a lesson from Toyota's folly.

[KJ4ROS]

I bought a 2010 Toyota Avalon Limited in Nov, 2009. Car cost $35k. I have been trying to get a dealer (any dealer) to put a buy number on it for weeks now. Not one dealer will give me a buy number. It currently sits in the garage. (what a waste of garage space). We drive my wifes Yukon Denali because of the snow (AWD) so don't miss the Avalon. It's just a shame to pay a lot of dough for a car we don't (can't) drive and can't get rid of.

I am usually a good vehicle buyer, but they blindsided me with this one.

Thank goodness I have the resources to wait it out and other vehicles to drive in the meantime. I feel for the guys that have only 1 car and no money to get back on track. Toyota can kiss my ass. Lying scumbags. I'd like to stuff a floormat into Mr Toyodas pie hole. Pardon my language, pls.

[KA9MOT]

That sucks! And you have every right to be upset. Look on the bright side, Toyota hasn't killed anybody in your family.

I hope things work out for you.

[KD0JMH]

I think I might avoid jumping on the Ford praise bandwagon this round.

From the ten largest recalls in automotive history:

#10 Ford 1987 (3.6 million vehicles): Engine-compartment fires caused by faulty fuel-line connectors compelled Ford to issue this recall in 1987. While not the biggest in terms of vehicle numbers, this recall may be the widest: affected vehicles included virtually every model Ford made, including F150-350 trucks, and all Lincoln and Mercury models.

#2. Ford 1996 (8.6 million vehicles):In 1996, after customers complained of fires caused by faulty ignition systems, Ford Motor Co. recalled vehicles including 1998-’93 Escorts, Mustangs, Tempos, Thunderbirds, Cougars, Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town Cars, Aerostars, Broncos, and F-series trucks.

#1 In February of 2008, Ford issued the industry’s largest-ever recall, affecting Lincoln and Mercury SUVs, pickups, cars, and vans of model years ‘93 to ‘04. The lowly cruise-control switch was behind this mother-of-all do-overs. It had a nasty habit of catching fire, sometimes hours after the vehicle had been parked and turned off. Owner response, however, has been slow, so in a rare move Ford reissued the recall in September of 2008 for the 5 million vehicles still unrepaired.

As far as the others go, only Honda at #7 for cracked seat belt buttons and the 72 VW beetle at #8 for throwing the windshield wipers off even make the list. Funny though, toyota does seem to make a much more entertaining internet forum target.

As far as it being the unions fault, not gonna run there either. Folks can try as they might but they are never going to get past the simple fact that the MANUFACTURE decided what to make and the decisions they made resulted in production of cars folks did not want. Production cost have nothing to do with sell-ability of a product and while profit item may vary significantly, the bottom line is simply that most paid MORE for a Japan owned car than they did a domestic, desire not cost resulted in a loss of sales for the American automakers and until they stop making excuses and start making cars folks WANT, the spiral downwards will continue.

[KA9MOT]

I think I might avoid jumping on the Ford praise bandwagon this round.

From the ten largest recalls in automotive history:

#10 Ford 1987 (3.6 million vehicles): Engine-compartment fires caused by faulty fuel-line connectors compelled Ford to issue this recall in 1987. While not the biggest in terms of vehicle numbers, this recall may be the widest: affected vehicles included virtually every model Ford made, including F150-350 trucks, and all Lincoln and Mercury models.

#2. Ford 1996 (8.6 million vehicles):In 1996, after customers complained of fires caused by faulty ignition systems, Ford Motor Co. recalled vehicles including 1998-’93 Escorts, Mustangs, Tempos, Thunderbirds, Cougars, Crown Vics, Grand Marquis, Lincoln Town Cars, Aerostars, Broncos, and F-series trucks.

#1 In February of 2008, Ford issued the industry’s largest-ever recall, affecting Lincoln and Mercury SUVs, pickups, cars, and vans of model years ‘93 to ‘04. The lowly cruise-control switch was behind this mother-of-all do-overs. It had a nasty habit of catching fire, sometimes hours after the vehicle had been parked and turned off. Owner response, however, has been slow, so in a rare move Ford reissued the recall in September of 2008 for the 5 million vehicles still unrepaired.

As far as the others go, only Honda at #7 for cracked seat belt buttons and the 72 VW beetle at #8 for throwing the windshield wipers off even make the list. Funny though, toyota does seem to make a much more entertaining internet forum target.

As far as it being the unions fault, not gonna run there either. Folks can try as they might but they are never going to get past the simple fact that the MANUFACTURE decided what to make and the decisions they made resulted in production of cars folks did not want. Production cost have nothing to do with sell-ability of a product and while profit item may vary significantly, the bottom line is simply that most paid MORE for a Japan owned car than they did a domestic, desire not cost resulted in a loss of sales for the American automakers and until they stop making excuses and start making cars folks WANT, the spiral downwards will continue.

If you are going to copy somebody elses work, give them credit for it. That is the law.

Here is the link you stole your info from:

http://www.mylemon.com/blog/2008/10/10-largest-automotive-recalls-of-all.html

You'll see it covers all of the other automakers as well.

So far 8.1 million Toyotas recalled. And still Toyota claims there is no computer glitch and is modifying the gas pedal.

Fords cruise control recall was a joke. I think 18 or 19 fires in 13,000,000 vehicles. The cruise control in that pretty red truck is one that is recalled. I continue to use it and have not taken it in because Fords fix is to unplug it.
If it hasn't caught fire in 15 years, it's not likely to now.

[K5HDE]

I've got a 2010 Toyota Tundra and yeah it has recalls. All of them are related to the same throttle 'problem'.

What happened was an aftermarket floor mat got jammed in the accelerator in the full throttle position. Driver freaked and did nothing to get themselves out the jam. Turn the ignition to OFF (not lock) or put the transmission in neutral would have solved the problem. How do I know? Same thing happened to me years ago in another make and model vehicle. Also had the throttle stuck open in an AMC when the throttle cable frayed and stuck itself in the open position.

Whether or not I get the 'fix' done depends on just what modification they do. Worried about the safety of the Tundra? Not in the least.

[KB3SYZ]

I've got a 2010 Toyota Tundra and yeah it has recalls. All of them are related to the same throttle 'problem'.

What happened was an aftermarket floor mat got jammed in the accelerator in the full throttle position. Driver freaked and did nothing to get themselves out the jam. Turn the ignition to OFF (not lock) or put the transmission in neutral would have solved the problem. How do I know? Same thing happened to me years ago in another make and model vehicle. Also had the throttle stuck open in an AMC when the throttle cable frayed and stuck itself in the open position.

Whether or not I get the 'fix' done depends on just what modification they do. Worried about the safety of the Tundra? Not in the least.

I agree that is the solution. However many of the individuals with this current problem are reporting that turning the ignition to the off position is ineffective. It does not kill the engine. Also being reported is that moving the transmission selector is also ineffective. The vehicle stays in drive no matter what position the selector is in. So some of those that have encountered this fault have 3 options available to them,

1. Ride it out

2. Bail out of the vehicle

3. Stand on the brake pedal although that has also been proven ineffective.

A friend of mine, his wife owns one of the vehicles recalled. They also encountered the runaway senario. After the vehicle finally came to a stop the transmission was locked in drive and the ignition would not turn the vehicle off. The only thing that stopped the vehicle was that it ran out of gas. We disconnected the battery to shut the vehicle off and had it loaded on a roll back and brought to his house. Once we got it home we again attempted to reconnect the battery. As soon as the battery was connected the vehicle attempted to start with no input from either of us. We were nowhere near the ignition switch. Also as the vehicle was locked in gear the vehicle moved as soon as the starter engaged. The local Toyota dealer now has the vehicle for repair.