Local UHF Simplex Freq gone Global

[kf4lne]

One of the UHF frequencies that is used in the Swannanoa Valley (Swannanoa/Black Mountain, NC) has been added to the amazing list of EchoLink linked frequencies. Feel free to check it out, best times are on the weekends and evenings. Below is the link info:

Station : KF4LNE-L
Node: # # 91506

Complicated radio gear used to get link up and running...

http://www.linux-junkies.org/pix/radio/echolink.jpg


Note about coverage area:
The UHF gear uses a Yagi at 25 feet pointed East towards Black Mountain, NC, about 5 miles away. The 446.1/144.91 link provides a greater coverage area via VHF. The area of best coverage is along I-40 from NC mile post 54 to NC milepost 66 on UHF. Coverage to the north and south are limited due to the mountains. (welcome to the RF Black Hole) Most everyone is welcome.

[k9kjm]

I tried it. Does not work. Also had several
others on Echolink try and no go.........
Looks like maybe a Firewall problem on your
end.
Hope you get it fixed.

[KD5KUF]

Where there is a will there is a way. HFers thought they had us no coders locked out of world wide communications. Now techs have access to satellites and internet connections via radio. WorldWide! And passed right by them. Shuttle debris recovery nets were on echolink, instead of the precious HF bands. No lids tuning up right on top of net operations. Wow! It just might be the wave of the future. Who'da thunk it.

Now tell me the antiquated code requirement means jack! #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Yep! I succeeded in turning yet another thread into the cw debate. Shame on me. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

Technician-- The first class license. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KB9YKY]

I guess there is just nothing that such CBers can't do with echolinks, phone lines, and their 'puters. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

[KD5UJZ]

Time it took for a smart A** comment: 16 minutes. He is getting quicker.

[KA8NCR]

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Hmmm. Oscar 10 has been around for quite some time, what was stopping you?


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Thank you for your support, I'll explain.

Linking repeaters requires some technical knowledge. In a local repeater with multiple receiver points requires someone with the where-abouts to keep it all together. Simply soldering up some patch cords and running someone else's software doesn't demonstrate any sort of technical proficiency beyond what our executive secretary does when she boots her computer every morning.

If it really matters, I think demonstrating code proficiency is antiquated. But hopefully it starts the wheels turning on gaining knowledge in basic RF concepts, which *should* be demonstrated. In fact, if I had my way, they'd toss out the code requirement and plop 7 circuit boards down in front of you and you'd have to determine the if they are a transmitter or a receiver. Not only that, determine what type of transmitter it is and the type of oscillator and amplifier used. If it's a receiver, tell what type of receiver it really is.

I will agree with you however on one thing in your post. You are a technician indeed, and also a first class...

[KD5KUF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (ka8ncr @ Mar. 07 2003,12:37)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Linking repeaters requires some technical knowledge. #In a local repeater with multiple receiver points requires someone with the where-abouts to keep it all together. #Simply soldering up some patch cords and running someone else's software doesn't demonstrate any sort of technical proficiency beyond what our executive secretary does when she boots her computer every morning.

If it really matters, I think demonstrating code proficiency is antiquated. #But hopefully it starts the wheels turning on gaining knowledge in basic RF concepts, which *should* be demonstrated. #In fact, if I had my way, they'd toss out the code requirement and plop 7 circuit boards down in front of you and you'd have to determine the if they are a transmitter or a receiver. #Not only that, determine what type of transmitter it is and the type of oscillator and amplifier used. #If it's a receiver, tell what type of receiver it really is.

I will agree with you however on one thing in your post. #You are a technician indeed, and also a first class...[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
One of the best people I know for keeping repeaters and radios up and running is a technician class ham. He and I both enjoy reviving dead radios.

What does code have to do with RF concepts beyond off/on, off/on. As for the circuit board identification, I think it is a great idea, then mandatory retesting for all classes above tech. Then a lot of the stuffed shirts would be dropping back to tech and starting out where they belong or dropping out completely.

Yes I am a technician indeed, and a first class operator! Glad you recognize that. It doesn't take deciphering dit dit dah in the hash of HF to make a good ham. It takes setting the standard to operate at the best of your abilities, and progress beyond. And basing upgrades on real world technical standards rather than an archaic club initiation. Jump throught this hoop and the world will be open to you, Yeah Verily!

[KD5KUF]

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All the CBers I've heard have been on HF, legal or not.

We technicians won't talk to them. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

[KB9YKY]

No, no. You CBers are usually found on those FM repeaters. The element 1 test keeps you off of the HF bands.

[KD5KUF]

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Nope, I distinctly hear them on 10-20-40-80 meters and just hear learning beginners on the repeaters, most of the time. I don't use them much myself. My radios do just fine without borrowing someone elses for a bit. And quite often reaches beyond them anyway. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

I think its the miswiring in the brain of CBers that lets them pass the code test with ease and spread their sickness on the HF bands. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif

Kind of a mixture of idiot-savant and tourette syndrome from the behaviour I hear on those bands. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

Good night all. Thanks for the entertainment on a boring day at work. 73.

[KB9YKY]

The problem with you liberals is that you are lazy and just do not like to work for anything. That is why you are always wanting everything given to you. Your kind has gotten too many handouts already. No reason to destroy the amateur radio service with more of your (give me, give me, give me) liberalism.

[KD5UJZ]

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A &quot;CB'er&quot; has more HF privileges then your no-code tech license permits. Are you bending rules? You must be addicted to 6M SSB.

[KD5KUF]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (KB9YKY @ Mar. 07 2003,17:10)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">The problem with you liberals is that you are lazy and just do not like to work for anything. That is why you are always wanting everything given to you. Your kind has gotten too many handouts already. No reason to destroy the amateur radio service with more of your (give me, give me, give me) liberalism.[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Funny, I thought my voter registraion card said Republican. How did I get lumped with the Liberals?

I enjoy earning my priveleges based on merit and intellegence, and my operating skills. Instead of ancient rites of mystics and lodge brothers and antiquated no brain rules that the some just can't turn loose of, and climb out of the dark ages, into the light of logic and reason. In an IQ test, some old fossils will lose out and I think this is what you are afraid of. You will be the one left behind. Again!

How does sticking to flat world technology make better and smarter radio operators? I was a high performance motorcycle technician for over 20 years. I can build computers and networks, repair said computers and networks in hardware and software both, as my company's network technician. I design and build my own antennae and have repaired many old radios and put them back into service. I refuse to let &quot;Technician&quot; be a dirty word. So get over it.

What can you do to make you so special, if anything but tap a little on off switch, if you can even do that with a copiable signal? Sorry, but since you are only a lowly technician #who failed the upgrades perhaps?, calling the kettle black I bet you can't. So where do you get off jumping my case? Or is your mission in life to be a crusty OF. If so, you made it.

So, I can't hear and decipher mouse squeeks in the hash of background noise and overunning signals. For this hearing impairment I get punished, but those with brain impairments can still get through, as long as they can trade beeps with some other retrophile. ( I'd be glad to define that word if you don't comprehend it) http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

[kf4lne]

it worked unil the cable modem failed, going to pick one up tonight when i get out of work. Anyway, I am going to have it back up in a few hours. I have talked to several hams on it just driving around town and it worked fine, but the cable modem died so I am going to buy a new one tonight...