What the heck is this?

[W5WPL]

ICOM IC-2200H V LMR EXP 136-174 MIL-STD Transceiver

I saw it on Ebay. I called Icom and asked them about it. They have no idea what it is.
A little pricey for a 2 meter rig.


http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ICOM-IC-2200H-V-LMR-EXP-136-174-MIL-STD-Transceiver_W0QQitemZ120427397558QQihZ002QQcategor yZ163856QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[KB3LAZ]

ICOM IC-2200H V LMR EXP 136-174 MIL-STD Transceiver

I saw it on Ebay. I called Icom and asked them about it. They have no idea what it is.
A little pricey for a 2 meter rig.


http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ICOM-IC-2200H-V-LMR-EXP-136-174-MIL-STD-Transceiver_W0QQitemZ120427397558QQihZ002QQcategor yZ163856QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Not sure...but check this out.

http://www.icom.co.jp/world/notice/index.html

[WB2WIK]

Looks like a regular IC-2200H to me.

[KI4WCA]

Note the transmit range, it is a land mobile radio.Identical to what I have upstairs, except for the transmit coverage.

[KB3LAZ]

Looks like a regular IC-2200H to me.

I was thinking the same thing but you can never be too careful.:p

[W5WPL]

If that's the case. Isn't it an illegal rig? If it transmits that range?

[AF6LJ]

That gives me something to laugh at.
Reminds of me of the Motorola SideTrek.

[K6ABZ]

If that's the case. Isn't it an illegal rig? If it transmits that range?

It's a commercial radio. There's nothing illegal about that.

[W5WPL]

It's a commercial radio. There's nothing illegal about that.

It is if it transmits on the amateur band. You can't have a rig like that.
But I must say, I can't prove it.

[KC9OKV]

It is if it transmits on the amateur band. You can't have a rig like that.
But I must say, I can't prove it.
I know poeple who modify thier 2m rigs to transmit on the trancever's entire reecieve range mainly to be able to call for help on a non amateur frequency if they can't reach anyone

[W9MAV]

ICOM IC-2200H V LMR EXP 136-174 MIL-STD Transceiver

I saw it on Ebay. I called Icom and asked them about it. They have no idea what it is.
A little pricey for a 2 meter rig.


http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ICOM-IC-2200H-V-LMR-EXP-136-174-MIL-STD-Transceiver_W0QQitemZ120427397558QQihZ002QQcategor yZ163856QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thats the 2m radio I have. I know that 136-174 is the frequencys it recieves thats all i could tell you.

[K6ABZ]

It is if it transmits on the amateur band. You can't have a rig like that.
But I must say, I can't prove it.

Every VHF and UHF Land Mobile Radio (hence the "LMR" in that units description) I've ever seen can transmit above, below, and in at least one amateur band. It's the responsibility of the technician who programs it to set it up for the frequencies his organization holds a license for - just like its our responsibility to ensure that our radios only transmit inside of ARS spectrum.

Most commercial rigs can legally and safely transmit in the public safety segments, land mobile radio, amateur radio, and GMRS bands. The only significant difference between a commercial rig and an an "amateur" rig is that our radios have VFO's, where commercial radios can't.

The rig in that auction probably even has the same circuit board as Icom's 2M amateur rigs, but a jumper setting on the mainboard locks out the VFO and forces the user to use a computer or programmer to program the radio's channels.

[KI4WCA]

It is if it transmits on the amateur band. You can't have a rig like that.
But I must say, I can't prove it.

We can use rigs like that.I think you are thinking of ops who mod amateur equipment for use on their fire frequency, which is illegal.Police and Fire rigs have to be type accepted for use in that service.It is fine if we mod their gear to work on the amateur bands.

[W5WPL]

Thank you all for the informative responses. I now understand what this rig is. It does seem to be an economical rig for commercial use.

[W5HTW]

It's a commercial radio. There's nothing illegal about that.

The Icom 2200H is a two meter transceiver. The rest of that junk behind the name tells you that it has been modified for LMR (Land Mobile Radio) and while that does not make the radio illegal to own, it IS illegal to use it outside the ham bands. That's the law.

It is NOT a commercial transceiver.

Ed

[K8MHZ]

Look at the freq. specs. on this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-ICOM-IC-910H-VHF-UHF-136-174-420-480-IC-910-IC-910D_W0QQitemZ120353409901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item1c059f4b6d&_trksid=p4634.c0.m14.l1262&_trkparms=|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A30

[K8JD]

It is if it transmits on the amateur band. You can't have a rig like that.
But I must say, I can't prove it.

Your understanding of the rules is kind of inverted.
It's illegal to use an amateur radio certified radio to transmit on non-amateur services frequencies.
Commercial radios are fine to modify or program for amateur use if emmissions meet spectral purity and power requirements (usually do)....:eek:

[N9ZAS]

I know poeple who modify thier 2m rigs to transmit on the trancever's entire reecieve range mainly to be able to call for help on a non amateur frequency if they can't reach anyone

True,it may be a common practice to do this. But is it worth your license to be caught using it out of band?? Not to mention what it would do to other amateurs credibility as being responsible operators;hence one bad apple......
n9zas.

[K3DAV]

Guys. It's an Icom-2200H ham radio that has had the MARS/CAP mod done to it so it can transmit on most of the VHF public service band. It is not illegal to own or operate. You can still use it legally on 2 meters. The only other frequencies it is legal to TX on are the MARS frequencies adjacent to each end of 2 meters. But only if you are licensed for the MARS service.

Basically, it's a ham radio converted to TX on the general coverage frequencies that are in this radio. The TX frequencies begin at 136MHz because that is all the radio's TX bandwidth allows. It will actually TX below that, but at very low power. Just like 99% of ham radios on the market, you can buy an Icom 2200H and clip one diode to make it function this way.

[WA6MHZ]

I don't CLIP diodes! I carefully remove them with 2 soldering irons at once, and then, using a piece of scotch tape, tape them to the rig's lid so that it can be re-installed at some later date should it have to be sent back in for warranty repair. Rigs modded will be rejected by the factory for warranty if some has CLIPPED the diode!

[KF7BTV]

This brings up a good point. The e-bay ad is confusing. I just got started about 2 months ago and am still trying to learn all the various types of equipment and gadgets, etc. I see ads everywhere that just give the name and model # and no other info. and sometimes not even a price :eek:(or no geographic location which is needed for pick-up only ads for antennas, amps, etc. ) I end up doing a Google search to try to find out what in the world they are trying to sell (if I care to take the time). Here's a great example: "WTB W2IHY EQ PLUS with or without the cables." I guess it's ok for old hams, but for me, not so much.:(

[W2IBC]

notice where it is coming from...

can you say. DON'T TOUCH WITH A 10 FOOT POLE!