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KG4KWW
01-13-2009, 01:19 AM
How low can one go!!!

GREENFIELD, Calif. — Police have arrested a Greenfield man for allegedly arranging to sell his 14-year-old daughter into marriage in exchange for $16,000, 100 cases of beer and several cases of meat.

full story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479544,00.html)

NA4BH
01-13-2009, 01:29 AM
What kind of beer was it and what cuts of meat?


BEER is your friend.


EDIT TO ADD: And to think the guy has Jesus in his name.

G0BXU
01-13-2009, 01:36 AM
If he were really clever, he was perhaps relying on her coming home after he had drunk the beer, so he could do it again later. :)

That reminds me of the Irishman who had a scheme to solve the unfair distribution of wealth. He suggested that all the money should be collected in and shared out equally. Then when he had spent all his on women and beer, do it all again.

Alan

K8ERV
01-13-2009, 02:13 AM
That reminds me of the Irishman who had a scheme to solve the unfair distribution of wealth. He suggested that all the money should be collected in and shared out equally. Then when he had spent all his on women and beer, do it all again.

Alan

Sounds like my kinda guy---

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

KB3LAZ
01-13-2009, 02:23 AM
How low can one go!!!

GREENFIELD, Calif. — Police have arrested a Greenfield man for allegedly arranging to sell his 14-year-old daughter into marriage in exchange for $16,000, 100 cases of beer and several cases of meat.

full story (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,479544,00.html)

Thats what you call a dowry.

NR7J
01-13-2009, 02:33 AM
That reminds me of the Irishman who had a scheme to solve the unfair distribution of wealth. He suggested that all the money should be collected in and shared out equally. Then when he had spent all his on women and beer, do it all again.

Alan

Obama :eek: ?
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W5WPL
01-13-2009, 02:44 AM
I looked , but can't find anything on Ebay

VE7DCW
01-13-2009, 02:45 AM
Thats what you call a dowry.

A practice honoured in some world cultures ...I think KWW is trying to put this silly story to what will occur in the U.S. after January 20th...:D

73

N7RJD
01-13-2009, 02:51 AM
Police say they only learned of the deal after 36-year-old Marcelino de Jesus Martinez went to them to get his daughter back because payment wasn't made as promised.

Ok, this guy lost a few IQ points on this one.

KB3LAZ
01-13-2009, 02:58 AM
In all seriousness, what kind of sicko would sell their daughter? Even better question, what kind of sicko buys a little girl? I have said it before and I will say it again the human race is parasitic at best!

N7RJD
01-13-2009, 03:20 AM
In all seriousness, what kind of sicko would sell their daughter? Even better question, what kind of sicko buys a little girl? I have said it before and I will say it again the human race is parasitic at best!

The same kind that goes to the cops to try and collect the unpaid debt.

KB3LAZ
01-13-2009, 03:29 AM
The same kind that goes to the cops to try and collect the unpaid debt.

Ya, ya, I had that one coming.:p

N7RJD
01-13-2009, 03:41 AM
Ya, ya, I had that one coming.:p

I wish I could say this kind of stupidity was a one of a kind thing but....

Years ago, as in the late 70's we had a guy in town that reported a burglary at his home. He listed all stolen merchandise such as Hi Fi Stereo, TV, 2 six foot post plants.......

Anyway the cops caught the crooks and recovered his property including the pot plants. The guy actually signed claiming ownership of everything. As he reached his car with the last load of everything he was arrested for possession of Marijuana.

We won't even get into the guy that called the cops out wanting them to dust all the snails in his backyard for fingerprints. He swore his neighbor was throwing them into his yard and wanted them to prove it.

AC4BB
01-13-2009, 04:58 AM
This slime ball needs to go to jail for A LONG time.

KB3LAZ
01-13-2009, 05:14 AM
This slime ball needs to go to jail for A LONG time.

No he needs a bullet in each kneecap, each shoulder, the palm of each hand, then he needs to be castrated and left to bleed to death.

KG4CGC
01-13-2009, 05:30 AM
...I think KWW is trying to put this silly story to what will occur in the U.S. after January 20th...:D

73

I think you're exactly right.

WF7A
01-13-2009, 06:11 AM
What a blivet! If he had any sense at all he would've charged $18K instead of $16K. Such a deal!

"This is Radio Jerusalem, 1500 on your radio dial...but for you, 1495."

WB3JLA
01-13-2009, 12:01 PM
In all seriousness, what kind of sicko would sell their daughter? Even better question, what kind of sicko buys a little girl? I have said it before and I will say it again the human race is parasitic at best!

You are right about the human race being a parasitic at best I see it every day

For Instance.

One day I was sitting in my local watering hole when this irritate patron was complaining to the owner.

It seams he put some of his white powder on the top of the toilet tank
But some one else applied Vaseline Petroleum Jelly to the top and his $100.00 bag of powder was destroyed.

He wanted the owner to call the police

G0BXU
01-13-2009, 12:19 PM
You are right about the human race being a parasitic at best I see it every day

For Instance.

One day I was sitting in my local watering hole when this irritate patron was complaining to the owner.

It seams he put some of his white powder on the top of the toilet tank
But some one else applied Vaseline Petroleum Jelly to the top and his $100.00 bag of powder was destroyed.

He wanted the owner to call the police

I hope the owner duly obliged, but then charged him for the call. :)

Alan

K8ERV
01-13-2009, 02:08 PM
what kind of sicko buys a little girl? !

Me, If I got the chance--- and--- if Vanna didn't mind.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

WY6K
01-13-2009, 02:11 PM
After raising three kids, I'd have to say this sounds like a reasonable deal - beer and meat!

KC2UGV
01-13-2009, 02:26 PM
Well, it says you can do it in the Bible... And it seems a fair price to me :p

G0BXU
01-13-2009, 02:32 PM
Tradition dictates that when the time comes for her to marry, a father walks his daughter up the aisle and GIVES her away to her husband.

You can't really blame the guy for trying for a better deal and getting something for her, beer AND meat sounds like a very fair exchange.

Alan

WB3JLA
01-13-2009, 02:47 PM
the perfect women

Owns a boat
Cleans fish
Digs worms
Her father has a Liquor store
Her brother owns a Marina
And her step mother is 10 years younger
Her uncle owns the trailer park

Like I died and went to heaven

OUNK OUNK OUNK

W9VLY
01-13-2009, 03:07 PM
Reminds me of my brother Bob's favorite saying: I love my wife, and for $19.95 you can too......

G0BXU
01-13-2009, 03:45 PM
Like the sign in a shop:

Everything in the shop is for sale at a price, except the boss's wife - but don't let that stop you making an offer, you never know if we've had a bad week.

Alan

KG4KWW
01-13-2009, 05:29 PM
The trama this child has had to endure is more than words can say, that about that.

Think about the fact that she is no longer a virgin for the real love of her life she will meet. How will she explain this??

KC2UGV
01-13-2009, 05:32 PM
The trama this child has had to endure is more than words can say, that about that.

Think about the fact that she is no longer a virgin for the real love of her life she will meet. How will she explain this??

It's not too hard to do in this day and age (Explaining it). And it's not all that dramatic. Arranged marriages with bride-prices go on in many parts of the world even to this day.

KG4KWW
01-13-2009, 05:54 PM
I know that in India they still have arranged marriages and when you ask them why they do this, they tend to get a tad bit touchy.

This is why you don't see an Indian woman and an American man doing the husband and wife thing or the boy friend girl friend thing (shacking). The woman would be disowned by her family.

K8ERV
01-13-2009, 07:14 PM
Think about the fact that she is no longer a virgin for the real love of her life she will meet. How will she explain this??

Alum

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

AE1PT
01-13-2009, 07:36 PM
The trama this child has had to endure is more than words can say, that about that.

Think about the fact that she is no longer a virgin for the real love of her life she will meet. How will she explain this??

What are you, one of those fundamental Islamic types?

PS, but you need to get out more often--you will find that most teenagers likely have more knowledge and experience with sex than you do.

KB3LAZ
01-13-2009, 07:46 PM
Think about the fact that she is no longer a virgin for the real love of her life she will meet. How will she explain this??

You are kidding, right? You have been out of high school a long time. I dont condone the fathers actions but your whole virginity argument is archaic. You find me one guy that cares and I will find one thousand that dont.

KC2UGV
01-13-2009, 07:52 PM
You are kidding, right? You have been out of high school a long time. I dont condone the fathers actions but your whole virginity argument is archaic. You find me one guy that cares and I will find one thousand that dont.

After seeing this, apparently a lot of people care:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/natalie-dylan-auctions-of_n_157329.html

:p

KG4KWW
01-13-2009, 08:37 PM
This chick knows how to build a Nest Egg

KG4KWW
01-14-2009, 01:29 AM
This guy is low, Not even NA4BH would sell his kids or ol for beer. :D

NA0AA
01-14-2009, 01:29 AM
I dunno, I had a teenager, at a couple of times, I'd have let him go for $500 and a couple of fifth's of Jack Daniels, if I could have found a taker.

Virginity? They still talk about that today? From what I read in the paper you can tell a virgin, s/he's under age 10.

KC9JWA
01-14-2009, 06:07 AM
It is wrong, and rediculous sell ur own child for a pointless addiction, and meat, im sure there sbetter ways, one that got sold and raped or whatever thats sad, i hope both slimballs get serious jail time and good beating, i wouldnt worry how right guy feel bout his non virgin aint her fault if hes good he think of her as a virgin why not wasnt her fault.:(

AC4UT
01-14-2009, 01:05 PM
the perfect women

Owns a boat
Cleans fish
Digs worms
Her father has a Liquor store
Her brother owns a Marina
And her step mother is 10 years younger
Her uncle owns the trailer park

Like I died and went to heaven

OUNK OUNK OUNK

This is way off, cause you forgot "owns a riding lawnmover and has a cute little sister".

G0BXU
01-14-2009, 04:17 PM
Wanted - new wife.

Must be able to Hunt, Shoot, Fish and be a good cook and look after me when I'm ill.

Must have own boat and guns.

Send picture of boat and guns to.....



Alan

KG4KWW
01-14-2009, 06:48 PM
Would you feel good about having bought some 20 something honey for a case of beer to be your sex slave??

What would JF think about this if he were alive??

This is wrong. Now when this child does get married at a legit age she won't be unspoiled for her man. Remember, this is an important thing in some cultures.

G0BXU
01-14-2009, 09:54 PM
This is wrong. Now when this child does get married at a legit age she won't be unspoiled for her man. Remember, this is an important thing in some cultures.


I'm not supporting a child being taken into sex slavery but on the subject of the pre-marriage sex and virginity thing -I agree that it is important in SOME cultures, equally in some OTHER cultures, no-one gives a damn and considers it unimportant.

Alan

KG4KWW
01-15-2009, 01:54 AM
Alan, I'm shocked that you think taking this girls virginity away at such a tender age is unimportant. Maybe to you but, I'm sure it was important to her.

This girl is just a child and she should know better however, mother nature does have a way of kicking in.

What her father did is beyond words and now his child will be without a parent. How sad.

This is why church is so important.

KB3LAZ
01-15-2009, 02:29 AM
Alan, I'm shocked that you think taking this girls virginity away at such a tender is unimportant. Maybe to you but, I'm sure it was important to her.

This girl is just a child and she should know better however, mother nature does have a way of kicking in.

What her father did is beyond words and now his child will be without a parent. How sad.

This is why church is so important.

You know Greg, some church goers are bad people and some non church goers are good. Just because one does or does not go to church does not define whether or not they are sickos. I dont go to church and I would not commit such a heinous act. Some day you will learn this.

G0BXU
01-15-2009, 10:25 AM
No kww, you missed the point of my post.

I did say that I do NOT approve of taking a child into sex slavery. However, my point was that whilst SOME cultures hold great store in virginity and are anti pre-marital sex. In OTHER cultures it matters not.

Fourteen is not TOO young for sex and childbirth biologically, it is only too young in the modern culture.

Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis 'marry' a 14 year-old, the scandal shouted out by middle class America ruined his career. Elvis 'groomed' Priscilla to be his future wife from a very young age.

I'm not ADVOCATING child marriage, just DEBATING it.

As for the church, in my experience churches are mostly full of hypocrites. I'm religious by the way I conduct my life, never knowingly doing harm to others and always willing to help where I can. I don't need to belong to any church or attend any services to do that.

IMHO Religion is a man-made thing designed to keep the original clergy in luxury (and willing Virgins), supported by the labours of the 'believers'.

Alan

KB3LAZ
01-15-2009, 11:29 AM
No kww, you missed the point of my post.

I did say that I do NOT approve of taking a child into sex slavery. However, my point was that whilst SOME cultures hold great store in virginity and are anti pre-marital sex. In OTHER cultures it matters not.

Fourteen is not TOO young for sex and childbirth biologically, it is only too young in the modern culture.

Didn't Jerry Lee Lewis 'marry' a 14 year-old, the scandal shouted out by middle class America ruined his career. Elvis 'groomed' Priscilla to be his future wife from a very young age.

I'm not ADVOCATING child marriage, just DEBATING it.

As for the church, in my experience churches are mostly full of hypocrites. I'm religious by the way I conduct my life, never knowingly doing harm to others and always willing to help where I can. I don't need to belong to any church or attend any services to do that.

IMHO Religion is a man-made thing designed to keep the original clergy in luxury supported by the labours of the 'believers'.

Alan

Your point was clear and Greg saw that he just chose to ignore it.

G0BXU
01-15-2009, 11:32 AM
Your point was clear and Greg saw that he just chose to ignore it.

Thank you for that - I thought it was and couldn't understand how anyone could have missed it, never mind, sometimes people can't see past their own point of view, I always try to.

Alan

WB3JLA
01-15-2009, 11:33 AM
Believe it or not the AMISH do it all the time.
But the groom gets land and horses
Also at a young age

YOU ALL CAN READ (http://www.everyculture.com/North-America/Amish-Marriage-and-Family.html)

KG4KWW
01-16-2009, 05:32 AM
I expect better from ZED posters than to consider selling their daughters or ol's for beer, it's just not done.

N7RJD
01-16-2009, 05:46 AM
This is why church is so important.

Do you really want to get into that discussion when everyone here is old enough yet still young enough to remember all the problems in the Catholic CHURCH regarding such topics?

N7RJD
01-16-2009, 05:48 AM
I expect better from ZED posters than to consider selling their daughters or ol's for beer, it's just not done.

Everyone so far has spoken out against this practice. Why do you insist on spinning this into them supporting it?

VE7DCW
01-16-2009, 06:14 AM
Everyone so far has spoken out against this practice. Why do you insist on spinning this into them supporting it?

For the sake of the "OL"....KWW must be heard on this...if only for a beer... :D

73

KG4KWW
01-16-2009, 09:31 PM
My OL is worth more than a few cases of beer.

G0BXU
01-16-2009, 10:17 PM
My OL is worth more than a few cases of beer.

How many more? :)

Alan

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