Oh good grief & a real possibility in Nebraska

[K0WVM]

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/37290769.html

I'm not a smoker, but this is unenforceable (if passed and signed by the governor) if you really sit down and think about it. :rolleyes:

People can "play the game" and "go through the motions" just to get their refund and do it all over again.

Dumb idea if you ask me...

[N7WR]

It is amazing how many of our elected officials think they are the conscience of the people when they have no conscience themselves.

[KJ4ITQ]

It's especially dumb since they apparently think it's more important to not smoke in the car than to wear your seatbelt.

[K0RGR]

I'm a little surprised it's Nebraska, but we've had similar laws here for a long time, and so far, they're enforceable.

I have a friend whose wife ran a day care out of their house about 15 years ago. His wife had to give up the day care, because in Minnesota, it's illegal to smoke in a day care establishment, even if it's your own house. We had to find a new day care provider for our kids on short notice!

[G0GQK]

Its amazing how British and American politicians copy each other, this is what we gain from international conferences, rules, regulations fines and imprisonment.

Our "fonts of all knowledge" stopped people smoking in public places years ago, that's OK not everybody wants fag smoke being blown in their faces or while they're eating in a restaurant.

However this was followed up by banning all smoking in pubs, when men have smoked in inns and rest houses since tobacco was introduced in the 16th century. Men like to go the pub, have a pint, read the paper and have a smoke when they took the dog out for a walk. First dogs banned from public places and some years later smoking banned in pubs. Result, five pubs a week closing down through lack of business.

The sensible thing would have been to provide a bar with air extraction fans, but they wanted smoking banned. In some parts of Britain drivers are booked for smoking. The best one was a painter and decorator sitting in his van smoking reading his paper and booked by a council jobsworth, He was told the blokes who work for him would have been subjected to smoke inhalation, he said he was self employed, but the jobswothe said he must at times carry passengers and if he smoked they would suffer the smoke ! There was no way this man was going to get out of paying a fine when it was decreed his own private van was a public place !

G0GQK

[KC4RAN]

As much as I don't want government meddling in our lives, I have to actually agree with this one. I was raised in a smoking household, so I know firsthand about the situation. I don't care what the circumstances are, there is no reason to subject your kids to tobacco smoke, period. As much as we know about what it does to the health of adults, we should know that it is even worse for kids.

No sympathy here.

[W5JO]

As much as I don't want government meddling in our lives, I have to actually agree with this one. I was raised in a smoking household, so I know firsthand about the situation. I don't care what the circumstances are, there is no reason to subject your kids to tobacco smoke, period. As much as we know about what it does to the health of adults, we should know that it is even worse for kids.

No sympathy here.

If you use a soldering iron with rosin core solder, it is actually worse for you. No sympathy here!

[N7RJD]

Where were laws like this when my kids were younger. I could have used a reason not to play taxi.

[KG4CGC]

It just warms my heart that Nebraska lawmakers actually do something. It also shows that they really care about children and that's what it's all about isn't it? The Children?
I hope in the future they go further and ban smoking in the home where children live and apartments altogether.

[WD8OQX]

The one thing that is being overlooked here is that it doesn't matter if they are smoking at the time or not. If they had recently, then the "pollutants" of it are still there (& on them as well) & can make SOME just as sick. I ought to know as I have an intolerance (allergy?) to it & it CAN, in my case, at least cause an asthma like attack.

Also, it seems the government is heading more & more toward there total elimination (& you KNOW they will get there way sooner or later) so why not just quit the pussy-footing around & just ban them all together? - I know, "prohibition" is one excuse used but it won't fly for long. Like I said, "...sooner or later..."!!!!

BUT - IMO, if you want to go off by yourself, not being around others, until you shower, that can't be exposed to it & suck that crap down your lungs, that is YOUR business. Enjoy...

[WA6MHZ]

Just declared a LAW in California, land of Fruits, Flakes and Nuts!

[WF7A]

I agree: You shouldn't smoke with your kids in the car--they should go smoke somewhere else.

[KC4RAN]

If you use a soldering iron with rosin core solder, it is actually worse for you. No sympathy here!
Do you expose your kids to the vapors/chemicals produced by using rosin core solder? I know I don't.

In any case, I kinda doubt either one of us is using rosin core solder while driving down the road with our kids in the car.

[N2ACX]

These types of insane stupid laws are also 'sanctioned' in a manner of speaking by you and me, the resident and taxpayer of 'any state'. recently in New Jersey one of the "COW TAX"
http://www.nj.com/sunbeam/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1230786609200600.xml&coll=9
and another proposal that would like to toss 2000 crippled and disabled people on the street because the assemblyman says quote:

The time has come to end this warehousing of human life"

This the type of mentality we have leading many states, what a testimony to our own blindness and acceptance of,in my opinion, is incompetent leadership.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/aroundnj/Lawmaker_Shut.html
This is unconscionable, and his statement demonstrates the level of insensitive feelings for people in general.
If there mentally disabled or handicapped in anyway, 'dispose of them'. Seems, in my opinion, some maniac back in 1939-1945 had the same warped mental condition.
I still say that we are led by idiots and we sit and do nothing about it.

We show more compassion to animals and crustaceans and toss people on the street.....what a crock..........
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,478904,00.html
N2ACX

[M3KXZ]

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/37290769.html

I'm not a smoker, but this is unenforceable (if passed and signed by the governor) if you really sit down and think about it. :rolleyes:

People can "play the game" and "go through the motions" just to get their refund and do it all over again.

Dumb idea if you ask me...

It's a GOOD thing. Any parent who smokes in a confined space like a car, with their kids in it, is just plain selfish and stupid to boot. And it IS enforceable in much the same way as any other offence - if it's not noticed then it doesn't get enforced, but then if it is noticed the parents can be prosecuted.

I have 4 kids, we're see other kids all the time at the school. And you can always tell the kids who parents smoke - they're the ones who stink and already have smokers' cough. The mums are the ones who talk in a nice barking husky voice. Lovely.

Pete

[M3KXZ]

And perhaps if parents weren't so stupid as to smoke around their kids, then people wouldn't feel a need for this sort of law.

What I don't agree with though, it the ban on smoking in ALL public enclosed places that we have over here (after following the lead of Ireland). People should be allowed to smoke in pubs if they want. The pubs should have smoke-free areas as well. This seemed to work well for years before the government decided to ban it completely.

[N7RJD]

I agree: You shouldn't smoke with your kids in the car--they should go smoke somewhere else.

We'll just add this one to the reasons not to go to Nebraska list. So far we're at 987 to 0 with 0 being the reasons to go.

[N7RJD]

I agree: You shouldn't smoke with your kids in the car--they should go smoke somewhere else.

Kids should be made to walk behind the car while you are smoking and airing out the cabin afterward. Everyone knows the exhaust fumes will be so much safer for them.

[K0WVM]

I do agree that smoking in close proximity to kids is a terrible thing to do.

However we go ballistic when the government tries to legislate morality. Why is this any different? How about this, why not focus on a problem that NEEDS to be dealt with on a very harsh level. Nebraska is one of the worst states in the country when it comes to dealing with repeat offenders of DUI. They get minimal jail time and a person convicted 10 times for DUI is about to be released from jail again in Omaha.

Tells me a lot where the priorities are... Again this gets passed, people get caught are smart enough to know that they can play the game if they have no desire to change their ways. Get caught, pay the fine, go through the quit smoking classes to get their money back. No real consequences for their actions and a waste of time and taxpayer money. So many loopholes and any good defense attorney will tear this apart to have the judge throw it out of court.

Which is why this is going to be totally unenforceable. I have talked to some police here already and they just roll their eyes upon being asked about it. They know where the real priorities are and this is one that although has good intentions, it's a bad idea. They have told me that issues such as speeding, DUI's, not wearing your seatbelt, children not restrained in car seats, reckless driving, etc... (those things that can kill or hurt people immediately) are really the priorities when it comes to motor vehicle enforcement. They're not stupid and see this for what it is.

Again this is also government trying to infringe even more into people's personal lives. What's next, you can't eat in your car or drink legal items in your cars because it might be a distractor? We need to make it illegal for you to consume certain items because they are bad for you even more pressing is when it is in your car. So if the police see them in your car and you are caught in the act, they will issue a citation. This is utter insanity guys...

It going to come down to where the citizen is going to have to stand up and draw the line. This is a personal matter, not one where the police should be getting involved and have no desire to do so from what I hear from them.

[N7RJD]

It's more a matter that while we expect government to fix the real problems of today they keep thumbing their nose at us by coming up with crap like this to look busy instead of working on the issues they promised in order to get elected. The American are tired of having it pushed in their faces that by voting these people into office we are just being duped. It's not that we don't already know this or that we actually expected them to live up to any of their promises but to keep rubbing our nose in it tends to fan the flames of discontent.