Greenhouse gas tax

[WB5HQH]

Reading about the cow tax proposals for their greenhouse gas emissions, I got to wondering. The eating of all that grass and vegetation results in more digestive gas produced than say a meat eating tiger. Taking this to the upper limit, one could say that the personal tax should be raised on people who are strictly vegetarian, as I have personal experience as to the gas produced on an all veggie diet.

So if we have congress passing the gas tax, or is it gas passing tax, one should be ready for future taxes on all forms of animals.:p

[K8ERV]

I'm going to corner the big cork market.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[AB8MA]

I'm going to corner the big cork market.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

Send me the bottles. I'll send back the corks.

[W5INC]

I'm going to corner the big cork market.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

Tom when you sell those corks better make sure there is a strict no-return policy. :D

[W4RLR]

I'm going to corner the big cork market.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo Kinky, Tom.
What next, leather pants, whips, and chains? :D

"Beat me, beat me!" cried the masochist.
But the sadist said "No."

[AC0H]

Reading about the cow tax proposals for their greenhouse gas emissions, I got to wondering. The eating of all that grass and vegetation results in more digestive gas produced than say a meat eating tiger. Taking this to the upper limit, one could say that the personal tax should be raised on people who are strictly vegetarian, as I have personal experience as to the gas produced on an all veggie diet.

So if we have congress passing the gas tax, or is it gas passing tax, one should be ready for future taxes on all forms of animals.:p
The "cow tax" ain't ever gonna happen.:cool:

[KC2STS]

Seriously, NJ is proposing a cow tax, a hefty one, and the dairy farmers said they will have no choice but to go out of business. One farmer, a fairly small operation, faces a $32,000.00 tax!

[AC0H]

Seriously, NJ is proposing a cow tax, a hefty one, and the dairy farmers said they will have no choice but to go out of business. One farmer, a fairly small operation, faces a $32,000.00 tax!
$10/gal milk on it's way to NJ, or NJ residents on their way to somewhere else.
I assume you will hold your elected official personally responsible for his/her vote.

[VE4CY]

Animal agriculture has been declared a "major threat to the environment" by the United Nations. Methane generated by livestock is worse than all the CO2 emitted by cars.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html

Any government committed to reducing greenhouse gas MUST take steps to manage their livestock industries. If they don't they'll just be wasting their time.

They may not go as far as taxing farmers directly, but they are going to be introducing legislation forcing farmers to manage their animals in a different manner and to find better ways of disposing of manure.

I think anyone who feels fighting global warming will consist of using CFL bulbs, driving a smaller vehicle and putting a solar cell on their roof is in for a big shock. Major lifestyle changes will have to be made.

[WB3JLA]

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They may not go as far as taxing farmers directly, but they are going to be introducing legislation forcing farmers to manage their animals in a different manner and to find better ways of disposing of manure. QUOTE]

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[K8ERV]

Seriously, NJ is proposing a cow tax, a hefty one, and the dairy farmers said they will have no choice but to go out of business. One farmer, a fairly small operation, faces a $32,000.00 tax!

I hope every cow gets unemployment compensation and backrupts the state.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

[AC0FP]

Animal agriculture has been declared a "major threat to the environment" by the United Nations. Methane generated by livestock is worse than all the CO2 emitted by cars.

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/en/news/2006/1000448/index.html

Any government committed to reducing greenhouse gas MUST take steps to manage their livestock industries. If they don't they'll just be wasting their time.

They may not go as far as taxing farmers directly, but they are going to be introducing legislation forcing farmers to manage their animals in a different manner and to find better ways of disposing of manure.

I think anyone who feels fighting global warming will consist of using CFL bulbs, driving a smaller vehicle and putting a solar cell on their roof is in for a big shock. Major lifestyle changes will have to be made.

This would be be funny if it weren't so sad! :(

http://www.fao.org/newsroom/common/1/css/blue/img/en/faotitletext.gif
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Just wait until they announce their plan "B" for getting rid of human hunger! :rolleyes:

[KC9OVT]

Seriously, NJ is proposing a cow tax, a hefty one, and the dairy farmers said they will have no choice but to go out of business. One farmer, a fairly small operation, faces a $32,000.00 tax!

<//sarcasm>
They need to apply to Congress for a government bailout.
<//end sarcasm>

[AF6LJ]

Reading about the cow tax proposals for their greenhouse gas emissions, I got to wondering. The eating of all that grass and vegetation results in more digestive gas produced than say a meat eating tiger. Taking this to the upper limit, one could say that the personal tax should be raised on people who are strictly vegetarian, as I have personal experience as to the gas produced on an all veggie diet.

So if we have congress passing the gas tax, or is it gas passing tax, one should be ready for future taxes on all forms of animals.:p

If you have the capabilities of reasoning and discernment and the will to use them you have to ask yourself the following questions;

1. where is the proof as to how much of the current greenhouse gas inventory is man made and how much is the result of non man made sources.

2. Where is the exact percentage of earth caused verses solar caused changes in warming/cooling? Just in case Y'all haven't figured it out the output of the sun has dropped measurably. Even the poles on Mars have responded to changed in solar output.

3. What good for the environment will come of a "Carbon Tax"?
How will that tax be used to moderate the earth's climate?
After all isn't that the ultimate goal?

Finally;

4. What impact did other dominant species have on this planet?
What was the negative impact of the overpopulation of those other species? Before you jump to answer this question keep in mind that there legacy is, in theory, the glut of biotic hydrocarbons we are currently enjoying.


I propose a novel idea;
The so called carbon tax is just another way of destroying the middle classes of the world and a way of enslaving everyone on this planet for the pleasure of the elite few who own eight tenths of the resources both materially and financially this planet has to offer.

No I didn't dream this up, it just looks like what is going on.

[N7RJD]

I'm going to corner the big cork market.

TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo

I thought the elephant trainers already did that.

[KC2STS]

Very good answers to my post, thank you. I live out in the country and there was a time when every road had one or two dairy farms, but not now. They're now housing developments or up for sale. I wish that I could afford the once dairy farm across the street from me. It's for sale and rumor has it that 307 houses are planned if the present deal/offer goes through.
As to the State's dept, it is already out of hand. Gov. Corzine saw to that.

[WB3JLA]

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[N0OV]

Seriously, NJ is proposing a cow tax, a hefty one, and the dairy farmers said they will have no choice but to go out of business. One farmer, a fairly small operation, faces a $32,000.00 tax!

Sounds like a land grab to me -- raise costs then buy property cheap.

God help us if they ever place a tax on Mexican Food -- what's next, "Greenhouse gas recycling devices attached to the seats in Taco Bell?"

Oh well, just because some folks have paper from a College stating they have been educated doesn't mean they can apply that knowledge for any useful purpose.

Good Luck NJ

[N2ACX]

Yes, as of Jan 1,2009 the proposal is here:

http://www.nj.com/sunbeam/index.ssf?/base/news-4/1230786609200600.xml&coll=9

Just like NY State.the entire system is out of control. The EPA is as out of control as the ACLU, I believe even more so.With this power the EPA has they can wield a mighty sword against anyone and anyplace. Farmers all over the USA are hanging on by their collective finger tips in most cases.
When will this abuse of the citizenry by the United States government stop? The citizens will sit quietly by allowing these out of control crazies in government to pass laws like this, take over the land and make the people crawl like animals.
No one cares till it happens to them,then they cry like babies.If we sit by and allow them to take over in this manner, then we deserve exactly what we get. :D:D
the question arises, who is next? As I posted before, probably US, for exhaling excess carbon dioxide (breathing) and passing gas while jogging.
N2ACX :)

[W5INC]

There is a dairy farm in Western Michigan that has allrady solved the problem of cow manure. The farmer collects most of the droppings and brings it to his
own biodigester tanks. The digester takes the biogas(60% methane) that is produced from the manure, collects it and then uses it to make electricity. This method produces about 60% of the farms electrical needs . The rest of the waste can be converted into fertilizer. This is nothing new as Europe has been doing this practice for years. I believe the farmer will add more capacity in the future, but there is a fight on whether he needs to sell his excess electricity to the utility company or not. If I remember right the farmer wanted to give the local school district free electrical service. This ran into a lot of opposition from the local utility company. Will be very interesting to see how it turns out.