I KNEW!!! UPS did this!!!!

[VE6WTF]

Welcome to the new UPS Airmail guys,

This could be how your new Icom Pro3 arrives at your door:

http://gizmodo.com/5123563/brown-can-thrash-your-packages-with-a-30+yard-delivery-toss-thats-what


His truck doesnt even stop rolling!!! And he is on the wrong side of the street

[WA4TM]

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And he is on the wrong side of the street


So, when has that ever been a problem??:)

[N7RJD]

UPS can destroy your Pro 3 and the tire place can re-tune your antenna for you.

I had a set of shocks put on the truck today and they raised it up a touch high on the rack. They didn't notice until they were pulling it down but the VHF/UHF antenna on the roof had spent the last hour or so in their overhead shop heater.

When they told me about it they said some of the plastic on the end had melted. I told them there is no plastic, it was stainless steel that melted.

They did tell me to buy a replacement and bring them the bill but I told them not to worry about it. I had planned on replacing the Comet antenna with a Larsen anyway and now have the motivation to do it sooner. Besides the Larsen I ordered won't be as tall and might clear the drive thru at the bank although I think I just about had a trench worn through their overhead by now.

[VE6WTF]

haha,
The other day at the mall there was a Ford F-350 with a handsome body lift and some big mudders on it and I noticed some antennas on it it followed us out of the parking lot and there was a SOLID!!! 4x4 steel bar that limited the size of vehicles coming through, RIPPED!!!!!! all the antennas off and I guess he panicked and hit the gas.. took the topper right off..
I think he made his own trench!!!


lol, thats a funny sight though, wearing it out like that

[N7RJD]

Mine's only an F-150 (built in Ontario eh) and not after market lift to it. It would never have hit if it weren't on the lift for them to do their work.

I think the guy was more surprised that I looked out in the bay and just said "Yep, it sure is a bit shorter than it used to be." I didn't see any point in making an issue of it. As I said it was slotted for replacement anyway and now the procrastinating is over. New Larsen is on order along with a new mount and cable just in case I find unusual wear on it when changing the antenna. If not I'm sure it will get used at some point.

I used to go through a low and narrow underpass and had always noted the gouges in the concrete from vehicles that didn't fit no matter how hard they tired. One day I got to see it first hand when a box truck was wedged in tight. There are not words to describe the look on a driver's face when everybody is driving by looking at their truck wedged under a bridge.

[WA4TM]

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There are not words to describe the look on a driver's face when everybody is driving by looking at their truck wedged under a bridge.


I can think of at least two, but I don't want banned!!!! :D

[W5KLB]

There's a reason why it's called UPS:

Universal Package Smashers.

[WA6MHZ]

The day a UPS driver can toss a Radio that far with that accuracy, the local NFL team will fire their Quarterback and give him the job!!!!!

[N4CYA]

I use to work at a local assortment center for the UPS and I was doing the loading of the packages when I first got trained this guy that was the supervisor over everyone told me and a new girl to throw the boxes, packages and etc onto the trailer no matter if it was something cheaper or it was something alot more expensive!

I've always dealt with people packages while I worked at UPS as a loader (loads packages on to the trailer) with professional and courtsey of someone else property! After 3 months of dealing with the attitude of the drivers and the supervisors plus the higher up's in the company I quit because of what we had to do with the customers items.

As for my advice don't deal with UPS reason why cause of what I've stated in my above statements about packages being thrown in the trailers and mishandled. I always enjoyed dealing with FEDEX cause of the common courtsey of some of the employees. Only my advice.

- Jamie (N4CYA)

[N7RJD]

There's a reason why it's call UPS:

Universal Package Smashers.

It's not even the drivers that do the most damage. Most is caused by people who load the trailers for the long haul trucks. This is not always UPS. A lot of times this is their customer who has the trailer at their terminal and closes and seals it before UPS picks it up.

I know people who work as loaders and un-loaders in the Denver hub. When they open some of these trucks they have to be ready to dive and run to keep from walls of packages falling on them. Of course they like to use packages, especially computer boxes to stack into stairs to get to higher stacks.

[KA8DKT]

I never ship UPS. Universal Package Smashers is a good name. I have several experiences with packages shipped by UPS that were destroyed by them.

Never, never, never.

No problems with FedEx, ever!

-gary

[W5KLB]

It's not even the drivers that do the most damage. Most is caused by people who load the trailers for the long haul trucks. This is not always UPS. A lot of times this is their customer who has the trailer at their terminal and closes and seals it before UPS picks it up.

I know people who work as loaders and un-loaders in the Denver hub. When they open some of these trucks they have to be ready to dive and run to keep from walls of packages falling on them. Of course they like to use packages, especially computer boxes to stack into stairs to get to higher stacks.

I used to be stationed at the Glenview Naval Air Station, Il (before they ripped up the brand new $10 million dollar runways and turned it into a strip mall and book store) and we had Sailors that would "moonlight" working for UPS that made basically the same claim.

One another note, I had a driver that REFUSED to take back a package that I didn't order or want. So he drove off around the corner of my block. So I just drove around to where his truck was parked and politely place the unwanted package inside his truck and went back home. The next thing I know is that this guy came back house to yell and scream at me for doing this when I refused delivery. I called the local UPS "hub" in Broken Arrow, OK to make a complaint. I don't know if anything was done, but I'm certainly hesitant about using "Brown" for any shipping needs.

FedEx may be more expensive, but I have NEVER had these kinds of problems with their drivers or delivery.

[N7RJD]

I use to work at a local assortment center for the UPS and I was doing the loading of the packages when I first got trained this guy that was the supervisor over everyone told me and a new girl to throw the boxes, packages and etc onto the trailer no matter if it was something cheaper or it was something alot more expensive!

I've always dealt with people packages while I worked at UPS as a loader (loads packages on to the trailer) with professional and courtsey of someone else property! After 3 months of dealing with the attitude of the drivers and the supervisors plus the higher up's in the company I quit because of what we had to do with the customers items.

As for my advice don't deal with UPS reason why cause of what I've stated in my above statements about packages being thrown in the trailers and mishandled. I always enjoyed dealing with FEDEX cause of the common courtsey of some of the employees. Only my advice.

- Jamie (N4CYA)

I can deal with FedEx but not FedEx Freight. They are two different parts of the same company. I have no problem with the local delivery drivers and have no problem with most of their freight line drivers that I have met. I do have a problem with them (the company) trying to charge me $225 because their driver used a lift gate and off loaded a pallet instead of having to climb into the trailer and break the pallet down and manually stack and dolly everything in multiple trips. This saved their driver approximately an hour and a lot of work allowing him to continue on his route a lot sooner. This was a prepaid freight load with extra paid for inside delivery and they wanted me to pay extra for making their driver's day easier and saving them labor hours.

I got the charge reversed and haven't seen an open back end of a FedEx Freight truck since.

[KB9BVN]

I have never gotten anything delivered by UPS that wasn't broken. I only use the US Postal Service.

[W4RLR]

I used to go through a low and narrow underpass and had always noted the gouges in the concrete from vehicles that didn't fit no matter how hard they tired. One day I got to see it first hand when a box truck was wedged in tight. There are not words to describe the look on a driver's face when everybody is driving by looking at their truck wedged under a bridge.

Police Officer to truck driver: 'Truck stuck?"
Truck driver: "No, I was just delivering this *&**^& bridge and I ran out of diesel!"

[W9MAV]

Thats how they shipped one of my packages.

[N7RJD]

Police Officer to truck driver: 'Truck stuck?"
Truck driver: "No, I was just delivering this *&**^& bridge and I ran out of diesel!"

I saw an accident once where a truck had swung wide left to make a right turn. He has the proper signals going and had pulled out in a way that it was obvious what he was doing. Of course there's always someone in a car that found a way to drive with their head inserted in the wrong end. The car had tried to make the stop sign and pulled in to the right of the truck. The driver never saw the car and drove right across the front of the hood.

They had to have the state guys take the report because the car was a county Sheriff's patrol car. Probably the same deputy that would rip anybody else for doing the same thing.

[KA8DKT]

FedEx may be more expensive, but I have NEVER had these kinds of problems with their drivers or delivery. FedEx Ground is cheaper and sometimes faster.

-gary

[WA6MHZ]

Most of the time, broken items are the SHIPPERS fault. I remember receiving a very very rare Lafayette 2 meter AM transciever that was all thrashed and smashed. The Seller had put a few of those stupid plastic air pillows inside which were popped the first time the radio shifted inside. Consequently, the HA-144 was bouncing around unimpeded in the box and everything that could be broken was. I contacted the seller and he blamed the post office. The post office said they would take the claim, but I had to surrender the radio. Since it was so rare, I just ate it, and repaired it as best possible.

Shipping items means you need to pack them in bubblewrap and foam peanuts. Heavy items need to be even more packed. I always pack things as if they were going to be dropped out of a passing plane. Irresponsible shippers do a poor job and then blame the carriers! The carriers use GORRILLAS to handle the items, and aren't careful whatsover. If the Sellers would realize this beforehand, then alot of damage to items could be prevented. You can't expect Gorrillas to handle things delicately. Marking FRAGILE HANDLE WITH CARE on the package only invites them to stomp and thrash it even more!!!

[AF6LJ]

When I ran the S/R department for the publisher I use to work for the biggest concern was overloaded boxes. We had 2 publishers we use to distribute who insisted on overloading boxes. We would get boxes with split sides and part of the content missing. We never had that problem, I knew what the box ratings meant and use to strap boxes that were close to the ratings. You could throw one of my boxes like that UPS guy did and it would survive even loaded up to 40LBS. I tested this a few times as we had customers who distributed what we published.

The antenna stories reminds me of a time when my grandparents and I were coming home from an outing. On the way down Garden Valley road (Near Roseberg Ore.) There was a truck driver who was having a very bad day. He had a Cat skip loader on a low boy trailer that didn't q2uite clear the bridge he was attempting to go under. He must have hit the bridge with the bucket on the cat doing about 40MPH. There was quite a bit of damage to the bridge and the bucket on the Cat was distroied. You could see the skid marks on the bed of the low boy where the Cat had slid back about ten feet. Hydrolic fluid everywhere

I sure wouldn't want to show my face at work after doing something like that.

[KA5ROW]

Wow this needs to be on the national news. Maybe FedEx could use this in their ad campaign.:D We at least walk up to the door and then drop them.:eek:

[K0RGR]

Lately, things have gotten better at UPS - nothing has been smashed recently. For a few years, everything I received via UPS was virtually destroyed, or nearly so. I know they received tons of complaints - maybe they finally did some good.

I bought my wife a nice piece of native American art when we were in New Mexico a few years ago. This is a very large copper shield, made of very heavy gauge copper. When we got it, the bottom edge of it was rolled completely over - something you couldn't have done with metal bending brake! They must have thrown that one out of the airplane before it landed!

About the same time, I received a nice new radio. Something sharp had cut through the front of the box, and somehow missed the front panel of the rig!

FedEx Ground, on the other hand, has become problematic around here.

[NR7J]

UPS can destroy your Pro 3 and

and Radio-Mart will resell it as BRAND NEW in the box. :D:eek::D:eek:

[KA8DKT]

Most of the time, broken items are the SHIPPERS fault. I remember receiving a very very rare Lafayette 2 meter AM transciever that was all thrashed and smashed. The Seller had put a few of those stupid plastic air pillows inside which were popped the first time the radio shifted inside. Consequently, the HA-144 was bouncing around unimpeded in the box and everything that could be broken was. I contacted the seller and he blamed the post office. The post office said they would take the claim, but I had to surrender the radio. Since it was so rare, I just ate it, and repaired it as best possible.

Shipping items means you need to pack them in bubblewrap and foam peanuts. Heavy items need to be even more packed. I always pack things as if they were going to be dropped out of a passing plane. Irresponsible shippers do a poor job and then blame the carriers! The carriers use GORRILLAS to handle the items, and aren't careful whatsover. If the Sellers would realize this beforehand, then alot of damage to items could be prevented. You can't expect Gorrillas to handle things delicately. Marking FRAGILE HANDLE WITH CARE on the package only invites them to stomp and thrash it even more!!!You can pack it all you want, but it won't withstand the onslaught of a fork lift fork. One of the stories I alluded to above involves the contents of a shipment that was destroyed because a fork lift operator ran the fork through the box. The UPS claim handler came, looked at it and told me they would not accept the claim because the shipment was not packed properly.(!!!) She got a real earful from me and finally accepted the claim.

-gary

[AC4BB]

Here's someones Wii being delivered airmail.
well, the link not working go to Google video and look at UPS driver throws package. This guy launched a wii game about 30 feet to concrete.

[KC2STS]

I had to send my Icom PW1 amp out to Washington (Icom) for what I, and they, thought was a problem in the amp. They gave me a call and said it was damaged in shipping because I didn't pack it right. That's when I informed the caller that I sent it in the original packing that it was sent to me in... They covered the damage at no cost to me.
Joe KC2STS

[KC2UOZ]

Doesn't anyone know??!! UPS regularly has their trucks tested for safety. They go to crash safety facilities like the ones on the commercials and smash em, sometimes with OUR packages in them. Or sometimes, they make impromptu crash safety checks. Proof in these pics-

http://avatarfarm.com/forum/forumimages/upsthisthreaddelivers.jpg

http://www.fquick.com/images/articles/13171.jpg

http://i.treehugger.com/files/th_images/ups_truck.jpg

http://monkey3media.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tuned-ups-truck.jpg

[N7RJD]

Doesn't anyone know??!! UPS regularly has their trucks tested for safety. They go to crash safety facilities like the ones on the commercials and smash em, sometimes with OUR packages in them. Or sometimes, they make impromptu crash safety checks. Proof in these pics-

http://avatarfarm.com/forum/forumimages/upsthisthreaddelivers.jpg

http://www.fquick.com/images/articles/13171.jpg

http://i.treehugger.com/files/th_images/ups_truck.jpg

http://monkey3media.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/tuned-ups-truck.jpg

It's not just UPS. A lot of larger shippers load the trailers themselves. A lot of times when the door is opened on these trailers a good portion of the load unloads itself as the UPS guy opening the door dives for cover.

Once inside the hub packages are used to build stairs to climb on to reach the upper stacks.

I'm still not real clear on what criteria they use to decide when to run over a package with the truck since normally all packages should be loaded in the truck before the driver is even there.

Either way I'm waiting for FedEx and UPS to merge so they'll have a name to match the level of FedUP they provide their customers.

[NA0AA]

I used to work for a design firm - now in those days we still got tons and tons of dead trees via fedex/ups/dsl, whomever.

We used to get tubes of drawings where the outside of the tube had tire tracks - truck tire tracks - across them and the drawings were creased all the way across. I used to just crack up when our Admin Assistant, a very nice woman but not hugely bright, would ask if we should call regarding the damage - I had to point out that from our perspective, the drawings were essentially not damaged, just inconvenient to unroll!

But for a couple of years we had a gal named Molly delivering our FedEx. Oh, dear, the things we fantasized about doing to that sweet young thing - she was really sweet, efficient and looked great in purple...<G> We all cried a little when she was moved to another route.

[VE7DCW]

The UPS guy made one major mistake..... making a delivery without getting a receiving signature..... :D

73

[N7RJD]

The UPS guy made one major mistake..... making a delivery without getting a receiving signature..... :D

73

I haven't signed for anything not specifically labeled as "Adult Signature Required" and even then I only have to sign about 20% of the time. The other 80% they accept my signature which just shows they have never gone to the grocery store with me or they wouldn't think of me as adult. :eek: