The FCC is endangering you and your family.

[Guest99x]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)

[NA4BH]

Thats just terrible.......... Next they should get rid of the phone book and address listings on mail boxes and houses. Get an alarm.

[Guest99x]

I have an unlisted phone number and it would be wise for you to do the same if you have other family members living in your home.

[K7JEM]

One problem I see is that anyone could take any valid callsign, who is to say if it is them, or someone else?

If someone comes on my repeater, and uses a callsign, I can look it up and probably figure out if it is legit.

Self policing would go out the window if we had no access to the information that lets us know "who" we are talking to. Might as well use "Red Rider" and "Motormouth", since they are just as anonymous.

Joe

[NA4BH]

Slow night on the Island, BOYS......... Nothing to see here.

[WA9SVD]

Sorry, but license datas IS a matter of public record, which the FCC is required to publish.

If anyone wishes to keep their address private, they have two options:

1. Obtain a P.O. Box.

2. Don't get an Amateur Radio license, a driver's license, a credit card, a library card, a telephone number or a job, so that you don't have any record, or need for a social security card. (Of course, if you have ANY income, the IRS will be kind enough to provide room and board for a few years, so you won't need the P.O. box, and probably have a lot of security against anyone of the public coming to get you. Your fellow residents, courtesy of the IRS/Federal Goverment, will be a different matter.

Of course, I realize there's a five letter word, often bandied about the Internet, including the 'Zed, that applies to the above post. I'm sure most people will be able to figure it out.

[k9roo]

You should take a look at all the information posted by the DMV.

If you're afraid of being hurt, don't depend on others. In other words don't be a weak, scared, moron. Get self defense training and buy a firearm. It's easy really, and you don't have to depend on others. You know what they say, "when seconds count, the police are just minutes away"

[KD8BVS]

I didn't like the fact that my address was listed on my callsign lookup, so I had it removed.

[VE7DCW]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)

A most paranoid troll post.... next.. :rolleyes:

73

[k9roo]

o.0

You mean... this address?

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=2733592

I didn't like the fact that my address was listed on my callsign lookup, so I had it removed.

[Guest99x]

If I go to your door on Mxxxxxxx Ln and ask for Bob, if the person at the door is a little kid or perhaps a wife, they will let their guard down because they think I know Bob. That's all a criminal needs: your name or address. Same thing can happen with a phone number and name/address.

It ain't 1950 any more. This is not the USA many of us knew as kids.

[NA4BH]

If I go to your door on Mxxxxxxx Ln and ask for Bob, if the person at the door is a little kid or perhaps a wife, they will let their guard down because they think I know Bob. That's all a criminal needs: your name or address. Same thing can happen with a phone number and name/address.

It ain't 1950 any more. This is not the USA many of us knew as kids.

Now you have threathened me and my family. Your IP ADDRESS will be available from QRZ. Get an Attorney, you will need it. Nice move.

[KD8BVS]

o.0

You mean... this address?

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=2733592

Yeah, thanks so much! I already knew it was still on the FCC website. I guess I'll have to find a way to remove it from there as well.

[k9roo]

I'm sorry you're a sheep. Intelligent gun owners will even teach their kids how to use a gun in self defense. Women are ones who should definitely know how to use guns, as we all know in larger cities there are rape cases.

If you're too stupid to know how to use a gun, or if you live in a police state like new york where you need a license to own a gun, that is your fault.

If you've a felony on your record, well.. you're SOL and you deserve it.

http://www.lizmichael.com/rape.jpg


http://www.jpfo.org/images03/handbill-gunfreezone2.jpg

If I go to your door on Mxxxxxxx Ln and ask for Bob, if the person at the door is a little kid or perhaps a wife, they will let their guard down because they think I know Bob. That's all a criminal needs: your name or address. Same thing can happen with a phone number and name/address.

It ain't 1950 any more. This is not the USA many of us knew as kids.

[k9roo]

You can't remove it from the FCC site. What you want to do however is register a PO box in any town where you can check it, then ask the FCC to change address to the PO Box.

The FCC REQUIRES a mailing address, not a physical location. This was in the technician test of why they need an address... so you should know. :D


Yeah, thanks so much! I already knew it was still on the FCC website. I guess I'll have to find a way to remove it from there as well.

[KD8BVS]

I'm sorry you're a sheep. Intelligent gun owners will even teach their kids how to use a gun in self defense. Women are ones who should definitely know how to use guns, as we all know in larger cities there are rape cases.

If you're too stupid to know how to use a gun, or if you live in a police state like new york where you need a license to own a gun, that is your fault.

If you've a felony on your record, well.. you're SOL and you deserve it.

http://www.lizmichael.com/rape.jpg


http://www.jpfo.org/images03/handbill-gunfreezone2.jpg


No guns here. However, my buddy down the street has a hunting riffle.

[Guest99x]

Yeah thanks very much. I already knew it was still on the FCC website.


THAT's the one that I am concerned about also. Noone needs that information. It should not be on the internet.

And no, I am not threatening anyone. I just want you all to THINK and insist that your government does not put you or your family (or my family) at risk unnecessarily.

If you WANT to post your personal data on the internet, please, go ahead and post away - I do not want to.

[KD8BVS]

THAT's the one that I am concerned about also. Noone needs that information. It should not be on the internet.

And no, I am not threatening anyone. I just want you all to THINK and insist that your government does not put you or your family (or my family) at risk unnecessarily.

If you WANT to post your personal data on the internet, please, go ahead and post away - I do not want to.


I don't care what anyone else thinks, I agree with this one.

[NA4BH]

Guest99x go get a good Attorney. You have made Terroristic Threats against me and my Family. Here comes the fun. If you think I am kidding, get ready.

[k9roo]

No guns here. However, my buddy down the street has a hunting riffle.

I recommend even a non-likely person to have at least a dinky gun like a ruger 380 at home. In the states where you don't need to get a license, which are many, you just need to buy a gun and put it in the night stand. Even new small guns can cost 100-200USD... if you like hi-point. *gag*(I'm very biased). Though glocks and XDs can be 350-500 if you want a decent firearm. Though handguns are for people who will/do learn about precision.

For home defense many people will recommend a shotgun. Why?
1) you're unlikely to turn and shoot your mate with a shotgun. You aim in a direction and shoot, they're just so damn easy.
2) spread pattern, you really don't need to focus on aiming... point and shoot.

One popo in Anchorage bought his wife a shotgun. She doesn't know much on firing guns but its perfect for her since she can point in the hallway if the person actually makes it past the reinforced steel door.

Handguns on the other hand are quicker to get out, unless you're a person to store various shotguns around the house. To me, accessibility is key, esp in a dangerous situation.

[KD8BVS]

..........

[Guest99x]

Some of you seem to want a little gun education. Here it is but please do not be distracted off the original topic:

That semi-auto isn't bad protection if it doesn't jam. But if you aren't home to protect your family, can they all use it? I prefer a revolver - more reliable.

Here's a little tidbit of information I learned in a gun safety class: "All handgun cartridges are generally ineffective at stopping motivated human beings." Shooting someone with a handgun is like drilling a hole in them. Stick it in, pull it out - there's a hole but not a lot of tissue damage. A rifle bullet usually has a much higher velocity so the damage is much greater. That's why it is illegal to hunt with handguns in most places.

Still think I'm a sheep?

[k9roo]

Umm, you need a defense class then. There is a difference between safety class and defense class. Just because you know how to handle a gun doesn't mean you're mentally prepared to shoot a human.

Personally, I like a glock 10mm, though I've been thinking about getting a five-seven. You need to learn how to take down a person optimally.

Like I said, poor training if you can't take down a person in 1 shot, which is all you need... even if the guy is on crack. Practice, Practice, Practice... unless you just really suck at shooting.

BTW, people hunt with handguns here in Alaska. 454 magnum is excellent at stopping a grizzly bear, though most will recommend you just carry a shotgun with slugs.

btw, yes you're still a sheep. All you do is make noise instead of getting ready and making sure you send criminals a message.

and one more thing...just by your posts, you tell me your family and you are very unprepared in case a criminal did in fact try to engage in criminal activity at your residence.

Some of you seem to want a little gun education. Here it is but please do not be distracted off the original topic:

That semi-auto isn't bad protection if it doesn't jam. But if you aren't home to protect your family, can they all use it? I prefer a revolver - more reliable.

Here's a little tidbit of information I learned in a gun safety class: "All handgun cartridges are generally ineffective at stopping motivated human beings." Shooting someone with a handgun is like drilling a hole in them. Stick it in, pull it out - there's a hole but not a lot of tissue damage. A rifle bullet usually has a much higher velocity so the damage is much greater. That's why it is illegal to hunt with handguns in most places.

Still think I'm a sheep?

[k9roo]

btw, what you said has to be the most moronic thing I've ever heard. I carry hollows in my handguns. If I get a five seven, guess what ammo it uses...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7x28mm

;) ahuh.

Anyway, hollows will stop a person, I try to use handguns which have more power to them like the 10mm.

Shooting someone with a handgun is like drilling a hole in them. Stick it in, pull it out - there's a hole but not a lot of tissue damage.
Still think I'm a sheep?

[KD8BVS]

btw, what you said has to be the most moronic thing I've ever heard. I carry hollows in my handguns. If I get a five seven, guess what ammo it uses...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.7x28mm

;) ahuh.

Anyway, hollows will stop a person, I try to use handguns which have more power to them like the 10mm.

You seem paranoid that someone is GOING to break into your house and try to harm you or something. Just get a small handgun and keep it simple.
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[k9roo]

You seem very paranoid that someone is GOING to break into your house or something. Just get a small handgun and keep it simple.
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Nah, I just want to know how it is to shoot a five seven. I'll just sell it if I don't like it. I don't know anyone who has a five-sevel who can shoot with me at a range.

Not worried about someone breaking in to my place, I'm always prepared.

[KD8BVS]

Nah, I just want to know how it is to shoot a five seven. I'll just sell it if I don't like it. I don't know anyone who has a five-sevel who can shoot with me at a range.

Not worried about someone breaking in to my place, I'm always prepared.


haha ok then :cool:.

[k9roo]

You know another handgun which shoots rifle ammo? :D

note: you use the same ammo which you use in a P90

haha ok then :cool:.

[Guest99x]

Someone used to make a handgun called a "Contender" that shot rifle ammo - I think I remember that they'd shoot .223 caliber, maybe others also. Don't know if those are still made or not. I think it was a single shot.

Hollow points are good and the larger calibers have a tad more stopping power, but those hollows will fill with clothing and no longer be hollows if the person is wearing clothing - that's what I've heard.

[Guest99x]

Here it is: http://www.tjgeneralstore.com/contende.htm

[k9roo]

HAH, okay you got me there. the thompson contender pistol is 14", 2 inches less than what would make it a rifle.

The five seven however is a pistol which is 8.9", which is small.

... don't ever go by rumors. a hollow point will penetrate clothing. What hollows are less likely to penetrate are Type II-A body armor, that is if you're using .45. One of the local police officer was at the store buying ammo or something and we started having a conversation.

Someone used to make a handgun called a "Contender" that shot rifle ammo - I think I remember that they'd shoot .223 caliber, maybe others also. Don't know if those are still made or not. I think it was a single shot.

Hollow points are good and the larger calibers have a tad more stopping power, but those hollows will fill with clothing and no longer be hollows if the person is wearing clothing - that's what I've heard.

[k9roo]

one more thing

The FCC doesn't endanger anyone, but the person who submitted the information to the FCC is at fault. A person can submit a PO box as the address, hence all "endangering" by the FCC is false.

[KB1KIX]

OMG, the tin hats in this forum!

I'm big on privacy, but dayum. This information is clearly available in so many other means.

I allow anyone to come and attack me at my listed address (bring firearms as well).

:rolleyes:

Jonathan

[k9roo]

You shouldn't say things like that, those are often the quotes lawyers use to get a criminal scott-free from a conviction.

"Your honor, the prosecution is clearly wrong. He challenged my client on QRZ and even said to bring a firearm" (rat lawyer)





I allow anyone to come and attack me at my listed address (bring firearms as well).

[KB1KIX]

You shouldn't say things like that, those are often the quotes lawyers use to get a criminal scott-free from a conviction.

"Your honor, the prosecution is clearly wrong. He challenged my client on QRZ and even said to bring a firearm" (rat lawyer)

You didn't look up my address..... it's not home!

Firearm.... Post Office.....

Jonathan

[k9roo]

MWHWAHAHAHAHAHA

No, I obviously didn't, however that is funny! I misread address... as home. :(

You didn't look up my address..... it's not home!

Firearm.... Post Office.....

Jonathan

[KB1KIX]

Trust me.... I don't fit in that 4x4 inch box on the third row.....

But bottom line, it is up to us to take measures in our own hands if we want some sort of privacy.

My PO Box accomplishes just that.

The web domains I have registered use the same address.

Is it fail safe? No, but as I said earlier, there are plenty of other ways to get my information.

Jonathan

[w8znx]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)



the CIA and the FCC
are about
to use
YOUR DAUGHTER
as a love slave for bigfoot

i am using my colorscope ultrawave transmitter
to beam instructions
IN to
YOUR BRAIN !

the earth is flat
the earth is flat
the earth is flat

the pope is the antichrist
the pope is the antichrist

666 666 666 666 666 666

[KI4ITV]

Nothing says love, quite like a post from Mac. :D:D

fairwinds :cool:

[KS4VT]

Pretty simple solution, don't talk about extended vacations on the air, get a "monitored" home alarm system, and for protection while at home pick yourself up a firearm that your comfortable with after taking a firearm self defense course that you can usually find at a local gun range.

If your state allows CCW then you can take your firearm protection with you.

With that being said it all comes down to using common sense.

[n8yx]

You know another handgun which shoots rifle ammo?

I happen to own several.

You can get barrels in .300 Win Mag and larger calibers for these (Thompson-Center) handguns.

Other manufacturers have also offered rifle chamberings in a handgun format. Some are single-shot; some magazine-fed. Bushmaster offers a neat .223-based pistol.

http://www.bushmaster.com/images/catalog/c15_zoom/AZ-C15P97.jpg

[n8yx]

Here's a little tidbit of information I learned in a gun safety class: "All handgun cartridges are generally ineffective at stopping motivated human beings." Shooting someone with a handgun is like drilling a hole in them. Stick it in, pull it out - there's a hole but not a lot of tissue damage. A rifle bullet usually has a much higher velocity so the damage is much greater. That's why it is illegal to hunt with handguns in most places.

My favorite 'handgun' cartridge for hunting is the 454 Casull, which is a 45 Colt lengthened .100". It utilizes thick-based rifle brass instead of pistol brass, owing to the far higher peak pressures generated on ignition. I've developed a handloaded round based on Hornady's 240gr XTP which delivers over a ton of muzzle energy. At that power level, blunt-force trauma alone is enough to seriously injure or kill; penetration into soft tissue isn't required.

Upping the power ante a bit:

The same cartridge loaded with Hornady's 300gr XTP is capable of one-shot kills with everything from whitetail deer to Alaskan brown bear...and elephants.

I can guarantee that either loading will stop any human...up to and including the most determined crackhead.

Here in Ohio, you cannot hunt with a rifle; shotgun or pistol only. Yet, many of us do fine with them. Of course, you're not going to field a 25ACP with any measure of success...

[n8yx]

the CIA and the FCC
are about
to use
YOUR DAUGHTER
as a love slave for bigfoot

Proof, please?

:D

[kj3n]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)
the CIA and the FCC
are about
to use
YOUR DAUGHTER
as a love slave for bigfoot

i am using my colorscope ultrawave transmitter
to beam instructions
IN to
YOUR BRAIN !

the earth is flat
the earth is flat
the earth is flat

the pope is the antichrist
the pope is the antichrist

666 666 666 666 666 666

The helicopters!!! The helicopters!!!

Nnnooooooo!!!!!






Unbelievable...... :rolleyes:

[WA9SVD]

I didn't like the fact that my address was listed on my callsign lookup, so I had it removed.

Not to worry, there's still the FCC Database. The only way to eliminate that is to get a P.O. Box or surrender your license. Of course, you'd also have to move, since the QRZ and Buckmaster CD's already produced will still have your address.
Ditto the phone company and DMV.

[N3VMC]

I have an unlisted phone number and it would be wise for you to do the same if you have other family members living in your home.

Here are a few of my solutions:

http://www.handgunsmag.com/featured_handguns/HG686p_021105B.jpg

and another

http://www.glockfaq.com/images/guide/g32.jpg

one more

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh103/1curmudgeon/MOSSBERG.jpg

oh and I forgot the best one...

http://www.rifletech.com/bullpup5c.jpg

So anyone is more then welcome to come visit me at any time...

:rolleyes:

[N4AUD]

That's why it is illegal to hunt with handguns in most places.



No, I think you don't know what you are talking about. Handgun hunting is very popular and has been for decades. It's NOT illegal in "most places."

[WA9SVD]

Proof, please?

:D

Better hope she has a modded H-T to call for help...:rolleyes:

(YX: No offense meant, Silly threads deserve silly responses.)

[W7WV]

You are are welcome to invade my PO Box any old time you want to.
The US Postal Service may have a little to say about that however and may just go postal on you!
The OP is a paranoid. Period.:cool:

[WS2L]

Unfortunately license information is public record and can be very easily found on the internet. I have in the past used PO Boxes for my address. I am a retired Lieutenant from the NJ state DOC and at one of the institutions I worked at they used inmate labor to enter motor vehicle accident information into the states computers. Everyday boxes of copies of the actual Police report from these accidents would come in to the jail to be entered into the computer. One night on third shift a few Officers and myself were going through and looking at some of the reports. In a 1 in a thousand shot I found a report on an Officer that worked at that jail so if the inmate who entered it had half a brain he had that Officers home address. I always kept my drivers license with a PO Box address up until about 3 years ago.

Better safe than sorry.

[n8yx]

The US Postal Service may have a little to say about that however and may just go postal on you!


One of our local carriers (a buddy of mine) is a ham and ex-Marine Corps sniper. :D

[W8NSI]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)

Troll Alert! :D

[AG3Y]

When I read a string like this, I believe that the terrorists have already WON !

Recently, in our town, one of the many competing telephone companies published their phone directory. Only problem is, they published ALL the phone numbers, listed AND unlisted, complete with addresses, etc.

Now they are offering $5.00 to every person who sends theirs back. :eek: You THINK ? ? ? :confused: :rolleyes:

[n8yx]

You THINK ? ? ?

"They" obviously didn't.

[KA5LQJ]

Morning Gentlemen,

I haven't taken the time, although I will to read all the reply's to Guest99x's post, LOL! I'm retired, I have the time because the NASCAR race is from Watkins Glen and one of those backward road races (lotta RIGHT turns, LOL!).

Now, I'm not here to agree with him one bit. Our home has been burgularized 5 times, all while we were away from home for less than 30 minutes. Each time, it was done by folks who watched the going's and comings of us for a long time. They knew our "routine". They didn't have computers to check and see if I was a "ham". Each time, the only antenna I had was on my 2 meter HT, so no external antennas anywhere. You can't keep the fools out of your house, unless you have a pit bull inside.

The only way we could keep our sanity was to totally put our faith in GOD, THE CREATOR. Now having said that, this is not the start of a 'religious war', just a simple statement of our faith. Doing this, helped us to realize that THE CREATOR made everything and that it was just on loan to us. SO, if someone stole it, it belonged to THE CREATOR and they would have to deal with HIM on HIS "time", LOL!

Some of the stuff they took (baby pictures in albums, 8mmm films, etc) were real personal to us. I don't know what value they were to the burgular's but those memories of birthday parties, Easter, Christmas, vacations, are gone. The other stuff, microwave, TV, VCR, frozen food, canned goods, were all replaced by insurance. Now, the diamond studs that my wife's deceased grandmother gave her for her high school graduation are gone as well. THAT can't be replaced. But, we are assured that what was taken from us will be returned in HEAVEN.

NOW, I'm medically disabled. I'm home MOST of the time. When I'm at the doctor's, my wife is home...with her gun, LOL! Her late father taught her how to deer hunt and how to use that pistol.....6 shots in a 2" pattern....nice shooting, honey, LOL! So, WE'RE not worried. You're MORE likely to be invaded buy mis-informed drug (FBI, DEA, ATF) cops looking for "dope", than burgulars, LOL!

Respectfully,
73,

Don/KA5LQJ

[ka5s]

Now you have threathened me and my family. Your IP ADDRESS will be available from QRZ. Get an Attorney, you will need it. Nice move.

FWIW, I don't see a threat here; showing possibility is not making a threat. We're all vulnerable.


Cortland
KA5S

[W5HTW]

Morning Gentlemen,

The only way we could keep our sanity was to totally put our faith in GOD, THE CREATOR. Now having said that, this is not the start of a 'religious war', just a simple statement of our faith. Doing this, helped us to realize that THE CREATOR made everything and that it was just on loan to us. SO, if someone stole it, it belonged to THE CREATOR and they would have to deal with HIM on HIS "time", LOL!

Now, the diamond studs that my wife's deceased grandmother gave her for her high school graduation are gone as well. THAT can't be replaced. But, we are assured that what was taken from us will be returned in HEAVEN.

Don/KA5LQJ

He did a fair job in building my FT897D. But if some punk breaks in and steals it, I would imagine, since I had to pay for the "loan" of it, God will refund my purchase cost? That's comforting. Kind of like insurance. Neat!

I can't imagine what you will use those diamond studs for in Heaven? But I hope they show up, along with the VCR so you'll have something to do up there. Send us some video.

Light-hearted kidding, amigo.

I think the guy who started this thread should quit his job, lock himself in his house and never leave it. This is truly "Weird City!" Or maybe he could move to Brazil?

[N4PRT]

Yeah, thanks so much! I already knew it was still on the FCC website. I guess I'll have to find a way to remove it from there as well.

In less than the time it took me to respond to your post I found your name, address, phone number, age, family connections, etcetera, on no less than five different internet sites. Alexander is an interesting name, and BTW, how is Kristine? Things going well at Image Magic Studios? I prefer film myself. Are you still driving that old white Chevy truck?

What sort of season did the Howell Highlanders have last year? Hockey is such a great game. How is the D-STAR raffle going down at LARK? It must be great to have lots of activities, given such a large family! The sidewalks that run through the backyards of your neighborhood must make things very safe. BTW, do you know where the nearest sex offender lives in relation to you? I do...

For a couple dollars, I could have a credit report, any criminal history directly from the State of Michigan, your property tax records, employment history, educational records, and a lot of information about the vehicle you drive.

The point of this is simple. This is the information age, and things are getting even more transparent. ANY activity in public life leaves a handsome trail in cyberspace. And it is going to get even more so. Forget about covering your tracks--anyone that wants to find you can and will, quite quickly and simply. The scary part is that any of this information may be incorrect--yet used against you in employment, credit, medical, or countless other ways that affect your daily life. Try correcting it some time!

Google yourself some time and see what comes up! If you use your call sign, this will include the posts you make on the Zed...

[n5ipt]

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

If you don't want the information public either A) Get a PO box. B) Cancel your license.

Don't forget that you operate a radio station on the air with your call sign. This means details to get in touch with your radio station must be filed and public. That way, in the event of an issue with your radio station causing interference, others can mail you to notify you of problems and coordinate a resolution.

It's the same reason why I can look up the station address of 104.5 FM. They do this so you can coordinate with the station if there are technical issues that need to be resolved.

[N2RJ]

If you want privacy, get a PO box.

Doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

I definitely do not want the FCC to discontinue publishing addresses. How else am I going to QSL?

[KC2STS]

I don't see any reason for me to be upset about my info being available on the Internet. I do know that around here a lot of criminals don't bother with looking up names and addresses, they just break open the door and enter, thereupon pistol whipping and/or shooting the occupants. I'm out in the country, but it still happens, more so in nearby cities. As I sit here typing, my doors are unlocked, but the Luger sits in front of me. I'm in and out of the house too often to have to deal with locked doors, plus I do still have a certain amount of trust in mankind. I might be wrong and be SK before I can post again.

[kg4rqa]

Well, I'm glad I don't live in fear and paranoia. All I can say is this: Hey, if you're a criminal or some kind of freak, and you're reading this, SCREW YOU. My address is 3861 Midland Rd Wingina, VA 24599, and if you think of coming around, you'd best come hard. 'Cause it ain't gonna be pretty!

[N7RJD]

I guess if myself and family are in danger I better up the insurance on them and stay away from home more. :D

[NC5P]

Many counties and cities have GIS systems online. Anyone can search to find who owns any spot of land. There is a mailing address listed with the country clerk's office, for mailing the tax bills. That shows everybody who owns a home, not just a small group like hams. I rather doubt that most criminals would even know hams exist. I did have a nosy neighbor once who had a scanner. He monitored the local repeater during tornado season (Southern Minnesota). I had to be careful what I said on the air or he would come over and bother me about it.

[KE4YGS]

I couldn't live my life being afraid of what other people might do because my info is all over the net, which it is.

I got 4 kids grown ond on their own and not a single time did anyone ever bother to look me up or try to use my cards or my phone or anything else. Nobody ever came after the kids or their mom or the dog even. To be concerned about this junk, IMHO is just arrogant.

In the real world nobody gives a rats butt what my address is or where I live. I have always maintained anybody that does is more than welcome to come start something they can't finish. I am more than willing to finish anything they bring to my door.

Nothing to fear but fear itself. Ignore the news and the internet blogs about all the monsters and molesters. Most of them were created in MS Word and never breathed a breath of air. Thats how I see it, and at 60 YO I see no reason to start worrying about it now.

Generally the people I know who are scared by the news and the net are people who don't interact in person much with people in the real world.

Scotty :D

[k4kyv]

Someone can look up your address on the FCC data base or QRZ.com, and then type the address in Google Earth and bring up an aerial photo of your house, and maybe even your antenna. They can zoom out and get a detailed map of exactly how to get there, backed up with step-by-step instructions using Mapquest.

If that makes you feel paranoid and you have your FCC listing changed to a P.O. box, remember if you have been licensed for a number of years your address is probably in the dead-tree edition of the Callbook as well as numerous data bases on CD-ROM.

I can see my tower on Google Earth, my ham shack, my house, and even my kids' trampoline.

You can run, but you can't hide.

[K3VR]

A couple of years ago I started taking all of our personal information offline. The only online identifiers now are two rental properties; one in PA and one in FL. The properties where we spend any time are listed under my LLC. When we sell off those two rental properties, we'll be off the public info grid completely, and I'll probably grab a PO Box in East Oshkosh through a mailing service to satisfy the FCC. Kind of a process, but that's the price of privacy these days.

[w3dub]

The tinfoil hat brigade is in full force in this thread. My address in the FCC db is my operating location as well. I think those that feel the need to obfuscate where they are in large part (but not all) have something to hide.

Get a grip.

[KD4LEI]

Introducing...

THE USB PANIC BUTTON

http://www.gadgetell.com/images/2007/06/usb_panic_button_425.jpg

Perfect for all of your worries and paranoid thoughts as you troll on the QRZ.com forums or anywhere your idle hands so desire (yes even those sites of questionable taste that your wife or girlfriend might catch you on). :eek:

Order in the next 10 minutes and we'll have a professional counselor available to tell you that everything will be okay. $.99 for the first minute and $2.99 will be charged for each additional minute.

Just dial 1-900-5NO-OMG

:D

[KD6NIG]

Funny.

The 'zed lookup shows a po box.

But the callsign with a .com at the end on a whois shows a physical address.

I wonder where the guy really got the address from.

Oh, and my domain registrar offers to make that information private for a small fee. Though I choose not to, if you're that paranoid, perhaps you should pay the fee.

But since the listing on here shows POB, and the domain shows a physical, it makes you really wonder where the information came from, if the information on the domain name is the true physical address.

[K3VR]

Good website about protecting your privacy. If you aren't at all concerned, you're either dumb with a capital D, or, you live in your grandma's basement, don't own property, and haven't got much to lose.

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/websites/idtheft.html

[n1fm]

good website about protecting your privacy. If you aren't at all concerned, you're either dumb with a capital d, or, you live in your grandma's basement, don't own property, and haven't got much to lose.

http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/websites/idtheft.html


Good site Brian thanks. As a 21 year Police Detective now retired, I typically kept my home address out of publications as much as possible. State statutes allow judges’, prosecutors, state, federal and local law enforcement to block their home addresses a vehicle information. Is it 100% fool proof? No way. But I have my national carry permit and a Glock .40 (least not forget the spare can of whoop **s).
By the way for you paranoid guys out there, your transmitting station is no longer required to be licensed. Only the individual is licensed. Therefore anyone may use a POB, work address, or their grandmothers' basement so long as they can retrieve mail in the event the FCC needs to get in touch them.
Speaking of criminals getting information, there is a fruitcake Canadian Ham who posted my wife's business address on his web page. News Flash! She is a great shot with her Glock and makes nice groupings in combat and stress shooting, so I am not too worried about her.
73 de N1FM

[w3dub]

Perfect for all of your worries and paranoid thoughts as you troll on the QRZ.com forums or anywhere your idle hands so desire (yes even those sites of questionable taste that your wife or girlfriend might catch you on). :eek:

Order in the next 10 minutes and we'll have a professional counselor available to tell you that everything will be okay. $.99 for the first minute and $2.99 will be charged for each additional minute.

Just dial 1-900-5NO-OMG

:D

LEI - I'm dying over here, thats great. I think we need to buy that for several in this thread. OMG I am going to be a victim of ID theft!! Um hate to tell the simple minded in this thread -- but it takes A LOT more than that. I've written extensively on this subject for work. An address will get the ID thief NOWHERE. Again, tinfoil hat madness.

So websites to protect you from ID theft aren't anything when the thief also needs your SS number, and usually at least one other form of ID to open anything of significance.

OMG somebody might send me a magazine subscription! Oh egads no!

[VE7DCW]

LEI - I'm dying over here, thats great. I think we need to buy that for several in this thread. OMG I am going to be a victim of ID theft!! Um hate to tell the simple minded in this thread -- but it takes A LOT more than that. I've written extensively on this subject for work. An address will get the ID thief NOWHERE. Again, tinfoil hat madness.

So websites to protect you from ID theft aren't anything when the thief also needs your SS number, and usually at least one other form of ID to open anything of significance.

OMG somebody might send me a magazine subscription! Oh egads no!

Totally amazing what information one can find on the internet...amazing what some real tinfoil hat wearers will say on other forum sites... "Guest99x"..has posted a strange thread .... but indeed...hard to think anyone would be running around the country side singing..."over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house we go.... " :D

Public information...is ..well,public... I have nothing to hide.... :rolleyes:

73

[n6hle]

I recommend even a non-likely person to have at least a dinky gun like a ruger 380 at home. In the states where you don't need to get a license, which are many, you just need to buy a gun and put it in the night stand. Even new small guns can cost 100-200USD... if you like hi-point. *gag*(I'm very biased). Though glocks and XDs can be 350-500 if you want a decent firearm. Though handguns are for people who will/do learn about precision.

For home defense many people will recommend a shotgun. Why?
1) you're unlikely to turn and shoot your mate with a shotgun. You aim in a direction and shoot, they're just so damn easy.
2) spread pattern, you really don't need to focus on aiming... point and shoot.

One popo in Anchorage bought his wife a shotgun. She doesn't know much on firing guns but its perfect for her since she can point in the hallway if the person actually makes it past the reinforced steel door.

Handguns on the other hand are quicker to get out, unless you're a person to store various shotguns around the house. To me, accessibility is key, esp in a dangerous situation.



Screw a Glock or an XD. I've shot many of each. Nothing but plastic crap. All I'm going to say about those.

Another good reason to have a shotgun... Most times you don't even have to fire it. Just the simple act of racking a shell into the chamber is going to scare just about anybody out of the house.

[n1fm]

Totally amazing what information one can find on the internet...amazing what some real tinfoil hat wearers will say on other forum sites... "Guest99x"..has posted a strange thread .... but indeed...hard to think anyone would be running around the country side singing..."over the river and through the woods to grandmother's house we go.... " :D

Public information...is ..well,public... I have nothing to hide.... :rolleyes:

73

HMMMM Guest99X huh? Could this be a BANNED individual from the past? hmmmm I ponder

[K2WH]

Did you read at this location (post #1): http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?t=70434&page=4 how a criminal obtained the home address of HAM W6RJS from the QRZ website and was on his way over to W6RJS's home?

I don't know if the address was on QRZ or actually on the FCC link, but this is just one example of how a criminal can use data as simple as your name and address to do you or your family harm. :eek:

How else could they use data as simple as your address? Say you're talking on the radio and you tell your buddy that you and your family are out at the lake fishing. A criminal monitors the conversation, looks up your call sign on QRZ, gets your address, goes over and burglarizes your house. It could be worse - say your teenage daughter is at home when the burglars arrive. Can you imagine more sinister scenarios? I can. :(

IT IS TIME, IMMEDIATELY, FOR QRZ AND THE FCC TO STOP PUBLISHING ANYONE'S PERSONAL DATA ON THE INTERNET. THE ONLY DATA THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IS THE CALL SIGN AND WHETHER THE LICENSE IS ACTIVE OR EXPIRED. NOTHING ELSE. No address, no name, no latitude/longitude coordinates, etc.

I go to a lot of trouble to keep my personal data out of the hands of identity thieves and I am very angry :mad: that the FCC is posting my name and address on the internet and I want it stopped.

Please write to the FCC (email address: fccinfo@fcc.gov ) and let them know that you want the practice of posting personal data including names and addresses of HAM radio operators to stop IMMEDIATELY. Also, please request that they stop IMMEDIATELY the practice of asking for Social Security Numbers on Amateur Radio License Renewals and Applications - they have ABSOLUTLEY NO REASON for wanting that data. Asking people to send that type of information over the internet is the height of stupidity in this day and age where no data transmission is safe from hackers.

Thank You. ;)

You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who don't pay taxes cause there is nothing in the Constititution that says so?

Paranoia reigns !

K2WH

[w3dub]

You wouldn't happen to be one of those people who don't pay taxes cause there is nothing in the Constititution that says so?

Paranoia reigns !

K2WH

Probably is. You know its kinda funny that we have two groups in here with different ideas of whose to blame. One blames the crew from everybody's favorite frequency, the other those "malcontents" on the Island. Quite humorous if you ask me.

[k9roo]

There is no national carry permit or federal carry permit. :rolleyes:

Do you mean you're still sworn to one of the government agencies? :) Anyone can be sworn in as a Special US Marshal or related type position to one of the agencies and carry a firearm where they please.





Good site Brian thanks. As a 21 year Police Detective now retired, I typically kept my home address out of publications as much as possible. State statutes allow judges’, prosecutors, state, federal and local law enforcement to block their home addresses a vehicle information. Is it 100% fool proof? No way. But I have my national carry permit and a Glock .40 (least not forget the spare can of whoop **s).
By the way for you paranoid guys out there, your transmitting station is no longer required to be licensed. Only the individual is licensed. Therefore anyone may use a POB, work address, or their grandmothers' basement so long as they can retrieve mail in the event the FCC needs to get in touch them.
Speaking of criminals getting information, there is a fruitcake Canadian Ham who posted my wife's business address on his web page. News Flash! She is a great shot with her Glock and makes nice groupings in combat and stress shooting, so I am not too worried about her.
73 de N1FM

[KD8BVS]

In less than the time it took me to respond to your post I found your name, address, phone number, age, family connections, etcetera, on no less than five different internet sites. Alexander is an interesting name, and BTW, how is Kristine? Things going well at Image Magic Studios? I prefer film myself. Are you still driving that old white Chevy truck?

What sort of season did the Howell Highlanders have last year? Hockey is such a great game. How is the D-STAR raffle going down at LARK? It must be great to have lots of activities, given such a large family! The sidewalks that run through the backyards of your neighborhood must make things very safe. BTW, do you know where the nearest sex offender lives in relation to you? I do...

For a couple dollars, I could have a credit report, any criminal history directly from the State of Michigan, your property tax records, employment history, educational records, and a lot of information about the vehicle you drive.

The point of this is simple. This is the information age, and things are getting even more transparent. ANY activity in public life leaves a handsome trail in cyberspace. And it is going to get even more so. Forget about covering your tracks--anyone that wants to find you can and will, quite quickly and simply. The scary part is that any of this information may be incorrect--yet used against you in employment, credit, medical, or countless other ways that affect your daily life. Try correcting it some time!

Google yourself some time and see what comes up! If you use your call sign, this will include the posts you make on the Zed...


Good job, but you got a few things wrong... No, I don't play hocky at all and the 1974 Chevy pickup is my neighbors. I actually drive a Ford. We play with it all the time though. My dad is the owner of Image Magic studios, not me. I never went to a D-Star raffle at the LARK. Don't have any sidewalks goning through my backyard. And yes, I know where the nearest sex offender lives.

Any questions? :D
I would go find your info but I don't have that much time on my hands.

[K3VR]

There is no national carry permit or federal carry permit. :rolleyes:

Actually, there is a national carry permit. Check out house resolution HR218. It's a federal law that allows active and retired LEO to carry in all fifty states and territories.

http://www.leaa.org/218/index.html

[n1fm]

Quote:
Originally Posted by k9roo
There is no national carry permit or federal carry permit.


Actually, there is a national carry permit. Check out house resolution HR218. It's a federal law that allows active and retired LEO to carry in all fifty states and territories.

http://www.leaa.org/218/index.html


Thank you Brian you beat me to the punch. This law has been around since 2004. Most states just got together to figure out the logistics and who was going to pay for what i.e. ID cards, qualification expenses and so on. That means that an active or retired LEO can even carry concealed in New York City and the Federal Law takes precedence over local laws and ordinances.
73 de n1fm

[k9roo]

In a way, that is sort of disturbing, though I suppose good overall.

Does it mean you can carry on flights?

I just hope officers realize the carry laws in the states they're visiting, and don't hassle or shoot anyone.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum9/11184.html

The above is a state trooper incident I had where I live, a very rare thing since all LE here know the laws very well. All LE I've seen here, except that one, maintains the view of "if he isn't acting like an ass or looking like he isn't doing anything illegal, don't bother him."

Ah yesh, and if I didn't mention it in the story I liked to, the trooper stated, "If I had my firearm, this incident would've turned out differently."

[w4nti]

Talk about PARANOID. SHEESH.

And after I spent all that money on Claymores and Det Cord.

Dan/W4NTI

[n1fm]

Actually, there is a national carry permit. Check out house resolution HR218. It's a federal law that allows active and retired LEO to carry in all fifty states and territories.

http://www.leaa.org/218/index.html

In a way, that is sort of disturbing, though I suppose good overall.

Does it mean you can carry on flights?

I just hope officers realize the carry laws in the states they're visiting, and don't hassle or shoot anyone.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum9/11184.html

The above is a state trooper incident I had where I live, a very rare thing since all LE here know the laws very well. All LE I've seen here, except that one, maintains the view of "if he isn't acting like an ass or looking like he isn't doing anything illegal, don't bother him."

Ah yesh, and if I didn't mention it in the story I liked to, the trooper stated, "If I had my firearm, this incident would've turned out differently."

Nice story but it has nothing to do with your un-informed opinion about the lack of a national carry permit that I possess. That is an open carry situation that involves a civilian.

[n1fm]

I just hope officers realize the carry laws in the states they're visiting, and don't hassle or shoot anyone.
"

Again the Federal law supersedes the local and state laws

[w4nti]

A couple of years ago I started taking all of our personal information offline. The only online identifiers now are two rental properties; one in PA and one in FL. The properties where we spend any time are listed under my LLC. When we sell off those two rental properties, we'll be off the public info grid completely, and I'll probably grab a PO Box in East Oshkosh through a mailing service to satisfy the FCC. Kind of a process, but that's the price of privacy these days.

So, YOU ARE THE FRADULANT CROW, EH? HI HI HI.

Dan/W4NTI

[w4nti]

The tinfoil hat brigade is in full force in this thread. My address in the FCC db is my operating location as well. I think those that feel the need to obfuscate where they are in large part (but not all) have something to hide.

Get a grip.

Your right there Dubby. Come to think of it when I lived in that PO Box in
Munford Alabama I didn't have a bunch of fruit loops bothering me by sending
all sorts of unsolicited stupid mailings. Oh wait a minute, that's a different
subject, sorry.

[k9roo]

Nice story but it has nothing to do with your un-informed opinion about the lack of a national carry permit that I possess. That is an open carry situation that involves a civilian.

no no, I was incorrect, I admit that. I stated it makes me sort of uneasy knowing so though since there are people, it can be anyone, who are too paranoid and/or don't know the law.

[n1fm]

no no, I was incorrect, I admit that. I stated it makes me sort of uneasy knowing so though since there are people, it can be anyone, who are too paranoid and/or don't know the law.



Understood.. sorry about that

[K3VR]

SO, YOU ARE THE... HI HI HI.

:)

Hi Dan, it's funny how many people don't understand FCC regulations, isn't it? I have to laugh at these fools who claim a PO Box or a vacation home address is "illegal" or that you're "trying to hide something" when you use a PO Box, etc.

§97.23 Mailing address.
...The mailing address must be in an area where the amateur service is regulated by the FCC and where the grantee can receive mail delivery by the United States Postal Service.

Main Entry: 1fool
Pronunciation: \ˈfül\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English
Date: 13th century

1: a person lacking in judgment or prudence
2: a retainer formerly kept in great households to provide casual entertainment
3: a harmlessly deranged person or one lacking in common powers of understanding

[w4nti]

LEI - I'm dying over here, thats great. I think we need to buy that for several in this thread. OMG I am going to be a victim of ID theft!! Um hate to tell the simple minded in this thread -- but it takes A LOT more than that. I've written extensively on this subject for work. An address will get the ID thief NOWHERE. Again, tinfoil hat madness.

So websites to protect you from ID theft aren't anything when the thief also needs your SS number, and usually at least one other form of ID to open anything of significance.

OMG somebody might send me a magazine subscription! Oh egads no!

Look Dubby, PLEASE Don't put out so called knowledge about Identity theft. You obviously have not a clue how easy it is. I won't discuss it here, obviously, but you could really get some one less knowledgible on the subject than you to get in serious trouble with credit.

Dan/W4NTI

[K3VR]

Look Dubby...You obviously have not a clue... Dan/W4NTI


Actually, according to an FBI bulletin I just read yesterday, one intercepted free credit card offer is all you need to start the process. The rest can be taken care of with social engineering and a cell phone.

[w0is]

It seems to me that there are two ways in which 1616 N. Victoria Street could be burglarized.

First of all, someone could drive down Victoria Street, see that there is a house located at 1616, and decide to burglarize it.

Secondly, they could go to some database that's available on the internet, such as an amateur callsign database. Then, they could pick out a callsign to search for, and perhaps they would select W0IS. When they looked up that address, they would indeed discover that there was a burglarizable house located at 1616 N. Victoria St. They could even print maps, get driving directions, etc. Then, they could follow those driving directions (as they drive past other burglarizable houses) to my house and burglarize it.

I'm not quite sure what the burglar would accomplish by not just using the first method.

[w3dub]

Again, social security number is required for any pre-authorized credit offer. They used to just send the card years ago, but now it must have some identifiable information in order to start the process. An address or even a intercepted piece of mail is still not going to do it.

There's no way around the SS# issue. There's a lot of people claiming to know what they're talking about in here.. but a simple look at regulations governing pre-screened credit offers answer those problems.

Fact of the matter is, you will open NO CREDIT, not even a bank account, without a social security number that matches the data given. Banks have spent a lot of money on these systems, because ID theft hurts them just as much.

Having your address on the Internet does nothing. Of course, when you're posting people's addresses for malicious purposes, thats a completely different story.

[K3VR]

Come to think of it, I forgot about the blank checks they send too. I got 6 blank checks last week in the offer from Chase. Just fill in the recipient and/or cash checks up to $20,000.

I get 5-10 offers a month with blank checks and a "please return in the YES envelope" with no other info required. If you already have a relationship with the company, all you do is check the yes box and return it... or just deposit or write a check to whomever. No SSN or other identifying info required. Just check the box and put it in the mail.

Here's another good site that explains some of the more common scams...

http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/consumers/about-identity-theft.html

[w3dub]

Again, you must show ID to cash those checks. Have some of them here.. on several it says ID required quite clearly. Almost all banks will require you to have an account with them in order to cash those checks -- and most of them come from credit card companies without any banking face.. so you can't just go somewhere to cash them like a personal check.

On top of this, I know my bank makes you deposit the check, you can't cash these unless of course you have the money to cover it. Most of the time, when you use them, you are using them cause you don't have the money.

So in other words, when you're trying to cash these checks, you'd also need to know the banking account number.

[KD4LEI]

LEI - I'm dying over here, thats great. I think we need to buy that for several in this thread. OMG I am going to be a victim of ID theft!! Um hate to tell the simple minded in this thread -- but it takes A LOT more than that. I've written extensively on this subject for work. An address will get the ID thief NOWHERE. Again, tinfoil hat madness.

So websites to protect you from ID theft aren't anything when the thief also needs your SS number, and usually at least one other form of ID to open anything of significance.

OMG somebody might send me a magazine subscription! Oh egads no!

Well you know... I try to keep it civil with a touch of humor to add some craziness to an already insane thread. :D

[K3VR]

Here's a good analysis of how 15,000 Suspicious Activity Reports were filed with about 60% of that number involving credit card courtesy checks which were stolen and/or otherwise abused.

"Credit card checks, also known as convenience checks or courtesy checks, are issued through a credit card company and linked to a credit card account. Customers find credit card checks convenient for use with merchants that do not accept credit cards, but do take checks. Credit card checks may be mailed to customers without the customer’s request. They do not require activation, thereby creating a heightened risk for identity theft by providing thieves an opportunity to gain access to customer’s information by simply stealing their mail. The thief only needs to sign the customer’s name on the face of the check and present it to any merchant. Customers may first learn of the identity theft when reviewing their credit card bills.

Check fraud involved stolen convenience checks endorsed and deposited for illegal gain. Credit card fraud involved credit card “bust-out” schemes where the subjects opened credit accounts and quickly reached the credit limit. The subject then paid with a fraudulent convenience check to restore the credit balance and spent the limit again.

Two hundred and ninety-nine reports indicated check fraud and identity theft and described activity where the accounts were established using the victims’ names without their knowledge. In some cases subjects used their parents’ identities, and in other cases subjects used the identities of deceased persons to establish credit card accounts."

bankersonline.com

[KD8IVE]

I aggree, I didn't want my address posted on any website, or anywhere for that matter...

My phones a cell, and i don't use it for anything except emerganicies, and no one has its number. I'm more secretive about my address. Thats why i use a PO Box, you can set one up either in your town, or next town over, as long as you be sure to check it.

If they didn't allow PO Boxes, i'm not sure if i would of got my license since i prefer to stay hiding ^.^