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kf4zgd
12-01-2002, 02:35 PM
CQ Young Radio Amateurs...

Read my latest post for the updated plans for Friday!

This is Steve, KF4ZGD, Vice President of the Virginia Young Radio Amateurs Association. #I am proud to announce the beginning of a HF Youth Net. #This net will be sponsored by the VYRAA, and will be held on 7288 kHz every Friday evening at eight o'clock p.m. Eastern, 0100 UTC. #ALL youth hams are invited to check in! #I will be hosting the first net session on Friday, December 6.

The purpose of the net will be to encourage young hams from all over the US to meet on HF and discuss any topic that's of interest to the net -- radio, school, hobbies, whatever. #I'm expecting a good turnout from the very beginning! #There happen to be quite a few young hams who have HF licenses, so I'm expecting to hear as many as possible. #If you are not a youth ham, but know one who would be interested, let them know. #When possible, spread the word on local nets and repeaters, as well as on HF nets.

This net has been in the planning stages for a long time. #It has been kicked back and forth for a while in the VYRAA, and from time to time I've heard rumors of different youth organizations thinking about starting one. #However, as far as I know, nothing has really ever materialized. #So, its finally here! #If this net goes well, we'll consider having an alternate time and frequency on twenty meters for better coverage into some, especially Western, parts of the US.

So, its up to you. #Non-youth hams, spread the word to all youth hams you know, and youth hams do the same and be sure to check in on Friday! #My e-mail is good on QRZ, so if you have any direct comments or questions, feel free to e-mail me.

73
-Steve, KF4ZGD

KB1GHC
12-02-2002, 07:34 PM
I'm 15 so it's good to have a net. I haven't heard much luck with any previous youth net though http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif but this is the first one i've heard about on 40m so maybe we'll have some luck.

73' de Steve, KB1GHC

KB1IPK
12-02-2002, 08:30 PM
This is great!!! I,m 14 and am working on upgrading.
I won,t be able to check in this friday ( I,m only a tech)
but it wont be long... hopefully http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif .
Anyways, listen for me on 40 meters towards the end of December.
KB1IPK... Jonathan

AD6XS
12-02-2002, 08:42 PM
Post Update
Steve has agreed to hold a forum on my website at http://www.hamquick.com to gather information about our 20m/40m Youth nets, and what everyone thinks about them.

Note: This forum is for information gathering purposes only, and announcements will continue to be posted here on QRZ.com by Steve, when needed.

All you have to do is sign up for an account, and vote in the polls, and topics about the Youth Net.

To Sign Up and Participate:
URL: http://www.hamquick.com/phpBB2/


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Great. I am 17yrs old, and I would love to participate. Hopefully my signal from Colorado will make it to your location in Virginia on 40meters. We shall see.

Hopefully you guys on the East coast can pick us West coast stations up on 40m!

By the way, there are a lot of Young Hams in California. I would make sure that whatever band, and time I picked, that it would be suitable for Those on the west coast. I know several hams who would love to participate, but live in CA.

see you there.

Sam
AD6XS, Colorado.

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KG4OVD
12-02-2002, 09:02 PM
Great, another reason to become General http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif .

Matt
KG4OVD
http://www.mcbtech.net/ (http://www.mcbtech.net)

12-02-2002, 10:26 PM
sounds like a good idea to me! I am 15 and hold an extra class license.
73's
Brad Dabbs - KCØKJI

KC8FKS
12-02-2002, 11:08 PM
It is GREAT to see all the yongsters are still getting into Ham radio.
Hope to see alot more.
Keep up the good work!!

73
Doug
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kc0myy
12-02-2002, 11:42 PM
good job all I need to do is upgrade.








73 DE kc0myy http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

KG4USK
12-03-2002, 12:25 AM
Cool, I'm 12 and am working hard to get my general and possibly upgrade to extra as soon as I can.

Luther Harlow - KG4USK

KD5RNN
12-03-2002, 12:43 AM
I am N5EIL , (General) ...
hope to make it on friday with 150 loud watts and best regards if i don't. for propagation reasons where is the net control station ??
thanks
73's and good Dx'ing
N5EIL, Neil ( Ex: KD5RNN)

n4tia
12-03-2002, 12:47 AM
Excellent! I have been talking about starting a youth net for a while now, never got around to doing it though. I am currently a tech though {took my general passed the written theory failed the code} so... I will try and check in from Florida as soon as I get the CW down. Hope to talk to you soon, till then 73
Alexander KG4OGN

n4tia
12-03-2002, 12:48 AM
Almost forgot, I am 14 years old. 73
KG4OGN

N3LJB
12-03-2002, 01:05 AM
Hello-
This is a great idea! Unfortunately, I have yet to pass the general written, but have the CW down, and as sson as I can, I will join. I am sure that my friend who is an Extra Class will enjoy this, and I hope I will. Just a question to my fellow young hams, but do you use voice or CW more? I enjoy CW tons, and I am getting pretty proficient. Anyway, look forward to at least listening, and hopefully participating, in this new net.
73 all around from Leland N3LJB

kg4rrv
12-03-2002, 02:33 AM
I'm 21. Is that still young?

K7BEN

kf4zgd
12-03-2002, 02:35 AM
Hello again everybody,

Happy to hear all the positive responses! Good luck to all who are working on upgrading. I failed the code test the first time I took it, so I know what that feels like. Since then I've upgraded to Extra, and it was worth the hard work.

To the station who asked, I am located in Central Virginia, and I forgot to mention in the article that I'm 16. About the NCS schedule; perhaps next week we could have someone in a more central location run the net so that we can get check-ins from more of the US.

73 from Steve KF4ZGD

kf4zgd
12-03-2002, 02:37 AM
Sure 21 is still young! Feel free to check in!

KF4ZGD

N4DSL
12-03-2002, 02:48 AM
Glad you got this started Steve, 40m sounds like a good plan. Will hopefully be checking in Friday.

73
Jason

KG6GOK
12-03-2002, 03:19 AM
That is cool, I also thought it would be cool to have a HF net for young Hams. By the way I'm 13 years old and I have a Extra Class. 73, Andrew W6YB (ex. KG6GOK)

KD5TMF
12-03-2002, 04:21 AM
Hello, I am 14 yrs old and am located in Houston, Texas. I would be more than happy to serve as a relay station. I am centralized and can get many stations from across the U.S. If you need a relay station I will be available to help with that. My e-mail is good on QRZ, so shoot me an e-mail if indeed you need one.

73 to all,
Colin Jenkins KD5TMF
Houston, TX
tornadochaser215@houston.rr.com

kg4lit
12-03-2002, 04:52 AM
To anyone who had a hand in getting this youth net started, thank you. I am 18 years old and live in a area of kentucky where most of the hams are able to draw social security. Dont get me wrong they tell some great stories but i would like to be able to talk to someone my own age. Unfortunately, I am only a tech. I have passed the code part of the test so all i have to do is study for the written part. As soon as I pass ill be sure to check in.

73s
kg4lit, Shane Hester
shane053084@aol.com

ae4vj
12-03-2002, 05:41 AM
This sounds like a good idea! I'm 22, is that young? I hope to be there this friday! What we need to do is to find some young females!!!!!!!!!

73
Brad AE4VJ
My Webpage (http://www.ae4vj.com)
ae4vj@qsl.net

AD6XS
12-03-2002, 02:41 PM
Sorry. Young females our age are few and far between. And the ones that there are out there, either never get on the air, or remain Tech. Class and never learn the CW. # http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif #

Anyway, all you Tech.'s, I guess it is finally time to upgrade!! IF you need help with the CW, check out my #article (http://www.hamquick.com/articles/art_morse_learn.php). It offers a few tips, and a tutorial.

talk to you on Friday,

Sam, 17yrs old,
AD6XS
Colorado.

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kd5scg
12-03-2002, 03:00 PM
I'm 14 and in the same situation as almost everyone else, I'm missing element one. But I hope to have it before christmas. I'll listen in for sure though.

kb9vno
12-03-2002, 03:07 PM
I will be looking forward the the net. This is a great idea. Im 21 And glad to see a net to form. We need some more things for us younger hams to do. Talk to people our age. I found it to hard to talk to older people on the air because our generation is so different that it's hard to compare things due to age. Don't find many things in common. Well i hope to see everybody on the air friday http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif

Kb9vno's Webpage (http://slingshot.to/kb9vno)

kb9vno@hotmail.com

G3PJV
12-03-2002, 08:42 PM
Hi im 17 but located in England so i guess no chance of working you all on the 40m net! but what about a net on perhaps 20m aswell, were a wider area could be covered, i know there is lots of young hams in the UK,
cheers
Paul
G3PJV

Web - www.qsl.net/g3pjv
email - g3pjv@qsl.net

KG4PZZ
12-03-2002, 08:54 PM
I guess I'll see everybody Friday evening (should I remember... I have a big note sitting in the shack about it, hihi). After seeing how this net goes, it may be worth considering moving the frequency around, Steve. Maybe different bands for different days of the week? Twenty on Tuesday, Forty on Friday (that'd be easy to remember, too!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. Just my 2 cents, hope that everybody that PLANS on joining the net actually does, ;-). And as for having some YL's on the net... yes. Come join, we'd be MORE than happy to have you.

Fred KG4PZZ

PS - People are asking about "age limits". Hell, if you're 80 but still "young at heart", I guess you could check in. But YOU would be the one that wouldn't know what the group was talking about ;-). And the tables have turned...

12-03-2002, 09:31 PM
Hi Steve And Others,

I will be glad to check into a kids net on HF. We used to have a kids net on one of our local repeaters and there was not enought kids checking in.

I will pass this message to some of my friends that have their General Class Licences and hopefully they could check in as well http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

73 and Good DXing #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

Andrew
Age: 12- General Class Licence
K3ASK@arrl.net
Pasadena, MD

AD6XS
12-03-2002, 11:11 PM
I am concerned that this net is going to have trouble getting off the ground...

I don't want the net to fail... so I am going to try to help you out....
The reason that I am concerned that the Youth Net will fail is that the band you have picked will result in a low check in rate.

...
...

Why am I saying this??

1.) 40meters Propogation not favorable for NET Success.

40meters has admitedly good propogation in the evening, but many in California, or other states farther from your state will nto hear you at all.
OK, well who cares, the people on the East Coast will hear me, you say... yes, but about 10% of all hams live in California, and the West Coast. More than in any other area. This means that 10% of all the young hams will also live there. Yes, I don't live in California, but, 40meters will probably not be open yet, to your state from Califrnia at the time the net begins.

2.) It is much harder to build a good antenna for 40meters. Especially when talking about young hams.

What I mean is that at 40meters, antennas are so large, that they are harder to construct, and are less EFFICIENT in many cases, than on higher bands, say 15meters.
Also, at 40meters, the antenna has to be very high off of the ground, say supported by tall tress or a tower, before good performance can be realized. Trap verticals and other similar antennas are good, but are LOSSY, and have poorer performance, causing poorer reception on lower bands. Young hams cannot afford large towers, nor have tall trees on their lots.

Most young hams do not have the space NOR THE MONEY, to have a good 40 meter antenna, and thus will not be able to pick up the weak signals of the net, especially on the West Coast where most young hams are. Many young hams not not even have a 40meter antenna, probably about 30% don't, and thus won't participate. Also, remember, not everyone has the space especially in the city, to put up large 40meter dipoles. I don't have the space either!!! I am going to try to tune up my delta loop with an antenna tuner, for 40meters. So as you can see, this problem affects many hams, not just young hams.

3.) Few Young Hams Have HF Privileges... thus....

Few Young Hams Have HF Privileges so it is important that as many young hams as possible can participate. If many are out of range of the net, and cannot hear the net control they will not likely particpate. If they don't have a large 40meter antenna, they will again not participate.

What do I recommend.

I recommend that you change the band. 20meters or 17meters is best. 20meters, and 17meters have good propogation all over the U.S. #Most people have antennas for these bands, or can easily build or buy antennas for this band for limited spaces, because these antennas are smaller in size.

20meters is much more cluttered, and will suffer from QRM(interference) for many stations. But it is more stable than 17meters.
17meters: Smaller antenna required than 20meters. Less people, less QRM here on this band. Also, the band has better propogation at certain times of the day, than 20meters does, but it often closes down earlier in the evening than 20meters.


I Hope this helps Steve. I don't want the Net to fail, but I am afraid it may, if you don't pay attention to the many factors involved in preparing a net. Lets hope that the net will be a success.

If I am incorrect on the propogation, maybe an older ham can correct me.

Sam
AD6XS. Colorado.
Website: http://www.hamquick.com
Get Your License. Visit link above. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

AD6XS
12-03-2002, 11:18 PM
The time the net will start...

Times Converted from UTC:

0100 UTC is...

5-00PM Pacific
6-00PM Mountain
7-00PM Central
8-00PM Eastern

Frequency: 7.288 MHz

Band: 40meters.

Date: Friday December 6th

Sam
AD6XS
17yrs old, Colorado

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KG4OFX
12-03-2002, 11:30 PM
Hey everyone!

Okay, just to let you know, there ARE female hams that are youths, and yes, some of them have upgraded. I'm Sarah, and I am 16, from Central Virginia, and I am a tech plus, soon to be working on my general theory. I hope this net works out, though I am quite sure that it will...I hope to hear you all on soon.

73 everyone,
Sarah
KG4OFX

kc8pnl
12-04-2002, 04:32 AM
Hello all!
I'm glad to see the younger hams getting active on amature radio. I would be more active myself, but the college that I'm in right now doesn't allow antennas in dorms and I've tried to start up a club here, but it failed do to lack of interest. I can't check in to the net this week, but hopefully next week I can. I think having a net on both 40 M and 20 M is the way to go since propigation will be open more to the west coast on 20 M at this time and more on the east coast on 40 M generally speaking. Good luck with the net this week and hope to catch you all next Friday!!

73
de kc8pnl age 20

n7wsb
12-04-2002, 05:35 AM
Although I'm probably too old to particapate in the net (I'm 25 http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif) I'll listen in.

Took me 10-11 years to get around to upgrading, something I found that is interesting is that the younger you are the easier it seems to learn code. I've known people between the ages of 9 and 21 learn it in less then 2 weeks. The secret (this worked for me - but it took me a month or so) is to keep a steady schedule - practice at least 15-30 minutes every day - also try to listen to it on your walkman on your way to anywhere or in your spare time - even if you aren't copying it down or paying attention you'll build those subconscious listening skills you'll need to pass the exam.

Beginning of last summer after I lost my job at Rulespace (software company) I decided I really wanted to upgrade and I bought the manuals and arrl study cd - I only seemed to be able to pass one exam per ve session - so it took 3 ve sessions but I did it.

12-04-2002, 08:33 PM
[/B]New Zealand has YANZ.
(Young Amateurs of New Zealand.)
They are a small group of operators active here in N.Z.
You can link to their home page and obtain contact details by linking to the NZART site and then to YANZ pages. I am sure if a few overseas E-Mails are sent to the group you should be able to get a few happy exchanges. 73 Frank de ZL1FMA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif

N4DSL
12-04-2002, 11:36 PM
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (AD6XS @ Dec. 03 2002,16:11)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I am concerned that this net is going to have trouble getting off the ground...

I don't want the net to fail... so I am going to try to help you out....
The reason that I am concerned that the Youth Net will fail is that the band you have picked will result in a low check in rate.

...
...

Why am I saying this??

1.) 40meters Propogation not favorable for NET Success.

40meters has admitedly good propogation in the evening, but many in California, or other states farther from your state will nto hear you at all.
OK, well who cares, the people on the East Coast will hear me, you say... yes, but about 10% of all hams live in California, and the West Coast. More than in any other area. This means that 10% of all the young hams will also live there. Yes, I don't live in California, but, 40meters will probably not be open yet, to your state from Califrnia at the time the net begins.

2.) It is much harder to build a good antenna for 40meters. Especially when talking about young hams.

What I mean is that at 40meters, antennas are so large, that they are harder to construct, and are less EFFICIENT in many cases, than on higher bands, say 15meters.
Also, at 40meters, the antenna has to be very high off of the ground, say supported by tall tress or a tower, before good performance can be realized. Trap verticals and other similar antennas are good, but are LOSSY, and have poorer performance, causing poorer reception on lower bands. Young hams cannot afford large towers, nor have tall trees on their lots.

Most young hams do not have the space NOR THE MONEY, to have a good 40 meter antenna, and thus will not be able to pick up the weak signals of the net, especially on the West Coast where most young hams are. Many young hams not not even have a 40meter antenna, probably about 30% don't, and thus won't participate. Also, remember, not everyone has the space especially in the city, to put up large 40meter dipoles. I don't have the space either!!! I am going to try to tune up my delta loop with an antenna tuner, for 40meters. So as you can see, this problem affects many hams, not just young hams.

3.) Few Young Hams Have HF Privileges... thus....

Few Young Hams Have HF Privileges so it is important that as many young hams as possible can participate. If many are out of range of the net, and cannot hear the net control they will not likely particpate. If they don't have a large 40meter antenna, they will again not participate.

What do I recommend.

I recommend that you change the band. 20meters or 17meters is best. 20meters, and 17meters have good propogation all over the U.S. #Most people have antennas for these bands, or can easily build or buy antennas for this band for limited spaces, because these antennas are smaller in size.

20meters is much more cluttered, and will suffer from QRM(interference) for many stations. But it is more stable than 17meters.
17meters: Smaller antenna required than 20meters. Less people, less QRM here on this band. Also, the band has better propogation at certain times of the day, than 20meters does, but it often closes down earlier in the evening than 20meters.


I Hope this helps Steve. I don't want the Net to fail, but I am afraid it may, if you don't pay attention to the many factors involved in preparing a net. Lets hope that the net will be a success.

If I am incorrect on the propogation, maybe an older ham can correct me.

Sam
AD6XS. Colorado.
Website: http://www.hamquick.com
Get Your License. Visit link above. #http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/QUOTE]<span id='postcolor'>
Well I have to disagree with you on a few points Sam. First of all, 40m has decent coverage. Reaching out to the west coast is a challenge on 40m, but have you looked at the people replying on this thread. The majority of them are on the east coast. If you want to have a west coast net go ahead, that would be great, but if we have a relay station somewhere in the mid USA everyone will be able to check in. The problem with 20m is that it is terrible for close range. I would not even be able to hear most the stations here in Virginia. 20m ground wave propagation is terrible. 40m is decent at night if you can find a spot between the broadcasters. I think that this net is going to do just fine, looks like we have plenty of people lined up to check in. I am sure you will even be able to checkin through a relay in the midwest. 40m also has more consistent propagation than 20m, it is rare to see 40m completely dead.
Also it is not that difficult to get a decent antenna up for 40m, a 65ft. dipole up in the trees is not that hard to accomplish. You really don't have to have it that high, 25ft should be enough.
And that last point is, that you are not going to please everyone! I understand not everyone has HF privileges, but maybe they will have something to look forward to then. I don't think Echolink is a good idea. That would be more complicated for people to get setup and in my opinion that isn't radio. And no time that you pick will please everyone. I am glad someone finally just made a decision and is sticking with it.

Will be looking forward to the net Friday.

And a note to Steve, maybe I could run the net sometimes, or be a relay station, as I have 1kw amp which would be able to get out better.

Best of all. Let's make this a fun event!

73
Jason Armentrout
N4DSL
www.keezletown.com

N4DSL
12-04-2002, 11:42 PM
By the way Sam, did you ever receive my email? I sent you one a couple of weeks ago and you never replied.
I took a look at your website
http://www.hamquick.com/

Looks good, but it has an incorrect statement on it.

"Why do I need to learn morse code? For those of you new to ham radio, I must first explain that in order to use frequencies above 30Mhz, you need to pass a morse code exam. What this exam consists of will be discussed later. The importance of the morse code upgrade is that ham radio bands above 30Mhz offer the ability to talk all over the world via voice morse code, and other modes. Without a morse code upgrade to your license, access to the ham radio bands above 30Mhz is not allowed. "

It should be to use frequencies below 30mhz not above. Just a typo I guess. I sent the email through QRZ so maybe you didn't receive it. But you might want to change that as it might confuse people getting into ham radio.

12-05-2002, 12:35 AM
Hi from brenneth

I am 11 and have my general class
and am working on extra so far I just have a 10-20m antenna but I will try
to make a 40m dipole and get it up for the net.
I am glad that there is a net up for kids. keep up the good work

73s KG6KWA
going QRT
CABINFEVER..7@JUNO.COM

aj7sk
12-05-2002, 02:11 AM
HI my name is DAN AJ7SK I'M 16 years old
from fallbrook sandiego ca .I don't know
how good 40 meters will work for this
kind of net.But will give is a try.
HEY CHECK OUT the fallbrook amateur radio
clubs at www.angelfire.com/ca2/farc/

# # # 73 DAN/AJ7SK

VE3LEG
12-05-2002, 07:15 AM
I'm 19, and have my Basic, CW, and Advanced licenses and will try to join the net on Friday.

As for 40 meter propagation, here in Canada we have a daily net called the 'Trans-Provincial Net' that runs on 7055 and gets checkins from all over the country.

12-05-2002, 06:22 PM
[B] Hopefully the net will work out just fine for the group. As you know, Steve, I won't be able to check-in until I can hopefully use a rain-gutter at our rental home in Louisa, if the landlord will let me "tap-in" to it. I will at least listen in tomorrow evening on the net. Hope everyone in my neck of the woods enjoyed the snow. Once again, best of success to the net and I will be available for NCS once I get settled in.

God Bless & 73,
Jeffrey, KG4QWR (Louisa Co., VA)

wx9emt
12-05-2002, 07:46 PM
glad to see something for us! im 17, a general class, and about to upgrade to Extra! ill be there if my 5W QRP signal can reach you from Austin TX! 72 & 73! KD5SSSV

wx9emt
12-05-2002, 07:48 PM
love it when i make a typo in a public forum http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif KD5SSV*

KC0LET
12-05-2002, 10:31 PM
The net sounds like a great idea. I am a 15 year old general. I am located just south of Wichita, KS, and can act as a relay station if needed. I hope to hear lots of stations on there this Friday!

Evan, KC0LET
kc0let@arrl.net

kf4zgd
12-05-2002, 11:17 PM
Hi again everybody,

I've enjoyed reading all the responses! There has been a slight change in plans, but it won't affect the net much. My voice is hoarse due to a bad cold I'm recovering from, so I won't be able to run the net. Jason N4DSL will be filling in for me. He has a good HF setup, and helps out regularly with the Virginia Phone Net. I greatly appreciate him taking that over for me.

I'm still planning on checking in, so hope to see all of you on Friday!

73
-Steve KF4ZGD

P.S. Keep an eye here over the weekend for an announcement about a possible twenty meter youth net which would cover all of the US, and also an international area when propagation is good.

NG5L
12-05-2002, 11:28 PM
For all you who hope to check in from west of the Mississippi River, don't give up.
I have routinely worked Washington and Oregon on 40m from here in North Carolina. #
Arkansas is almost always heard here. #
40m is a great band for this.

73's de NG5L
Mark

KD5TMF
12-06-2002, 03:03 AM
Hello everyone!
Thank you Jason for being net control for us this Friday. I will be available every Friday except for the 3rd Friday of each month (for our Club meeting). I will be available this Friday to help with relays and so forth (although with a kw you should be okay!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif. Located in Houston, TX. 73 and see y'all on the net tomorrow.

Colin KD5TMF
tornadochaser215@houston.rr.com

kf4zgd
12-07-2002, 01:15 AM
Everyone,

Forty is pretty crowded tonight, so we're QSY'ing to 7.245 MHz.

-Steve KF4ZGD

N4DSL
12-07-2002, 02:16 AM
Well we had the net on 7245 due to the high qrm on 7288, the band was noisy, lots of QRM and foreign broadcasts. Anyway we made the best of it and had 10 checkins, not a bad start. I guess Steve and I will be talking and deciding if we are going to change the net time or band and will post on QRZ any changes. Thanks to those who checked in and sorry for those that were looking on 7288, it was difficult copy for most, but was able to hear some very well.

73
Jason
N4DSL

KD5TMF
12-07-2002, 02:36 AM
Could not hear anyone on 7288 or 7245. A lot of QRM on both, so it was very hard to copy.

Colin KD5TMF

12-07-2002, 03:04 AM
I could just barely hear you, Jason. I did hear VE3LEG, KB9VNO, and KC0KJI and that's it. I may need to adjust my antenna or it could just be horrible band conditions. We'll have to wait and see.

God Bless & 73,
Jeffrey, KG4QWR

KC9CVI
12-08-2002, 02:52 PM
Hi, I'm Nora. I'm 17, and just got my Technician license. In fact i've only had my callsign since Thursday. I hope to be upgrading to General the end of this month, and hopefully i will be able to get on your net in January. I'm not sure how long it would take to get an antenna up, though.
I'll be sure to try and listen in to the net. I'm from the southern part of Indiana, and i always hear people out in the middle of the country(i.e. kansas, oklahoma, etc.) talking. Hadn't yet heard anyone from the east coast. Maybe i will Friday night though.
73
Nora, KC9CVI

12-09-2002, 02:57 AM
I'm 14, and I'm planning to upgrade in two weeks. A youth net on HF seems like a great idea. Perhaps we could open it to all international youth amateurs?

73 de Wesley, KG6KBF (soon to be WA6CKO - going through vanity process)

2e0idx
12-09-2002, 09:21 AM
Hi Im Gary and im 15. Here in the UK we don't have anything like this, but it sounds cool. I wonder whether there are any plans for an international net on a band like 20m? Im really happy to see that there are so many of us "youngsters" on the bands. 73 de 2E0IDX/M0XID

kf4zgd
12-09-2002, 01:45 PM
Twenty Meter Youth Net!!!

After last week's youth net on forty meters we, with input from young hams around the country, decided to change things some and start a twenty meter youth net. This net will easily cover all of North America, as well as many parts of the world. It will meet every Saturday at 0030 UTC. However, in US time that'll be Friday evening at 7:30 p.m. Eastern, 4:30 p.m. Pacific. The frequency will be 14.330 plus or minus five kilohertz, depending on whether or not the frequency is in use.

The forty meter net will then be an half-hour later at 0100 UTC. The frequency will probably be towards the upper end of the band (between 7280 and 7300), depending on noise levels and foriegn broadcasters, etc. We'll pick the exact frequency right before the net and announce it on twenty meters as well as on the Internet, so there will be no confusion as to frequencies, and so that a frequency that's been picked ahead of time doesn't turn out to be in use, as happened last week.

I expect this plan to work out better, so if you were trying last week on forty and didn't make it, or if you can't work forty at all, then come on out an half-hour earlier on twenty and we'll be sure to hear you there. If you're only a Tech, then keep on working on your code and theory, and listen to the net once in a while if you can. We'll love to have you on as soon as you upgrade!!!

Again, inform all the youth hams you know about this. We do encourage young hams who are Techs to check in with a higher license class ham as control op, as well as third party youth check-ins. Looking forward to hearing and talking to as many of you as possible on Friday!

73
-Steve KF4ZGD

KC9CNN
12-09-2002, 10:57 PM
I will be listening in from EN52http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif Best of luck to you Steve...you have started something monumental for the hobby.

12-10-2002, 12:31 AM
Hi Steve And Others,

I will be sure to check in this Friday to the 20M net and to the 40M net. I will let my friends that I told before about the Freq Change and hopefully they will check in as well!

Hope to see you all on the net on Friday!

73,
Andrew
K3ASK
Pasadena, MD

VE3LEG
12-11-2002, 02:01 AM
I won't be able to participate in the Friday night youth net, it takes place in the middle of my local Ham club's Christmas dinner. I'l be around for the folowing week's net, I like the idea of a 20&40 meter net.

AD6XS
12-11-2002, 02:43 PM
Steve has agreed to hold a forum on my website at http://www.hamquick.com to gather information about our 20m/40m Youth nets, and what everyone thinks about them.

Note: This forum is for information gathering purposes only, and announcements will continue to be posted here on QRZ.com by Steve, when needed.

All you have to do is sign up for an account, and vote in the polls, and topics about the Youth Net.

To Sign Up and Participate:
URL: http://www.hamquick.com/phpBB2/

thanks,

Sam
AD6XS
Colorado

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NG5L
12-14-2002, 12:29 AM
Listening to net control on 14.318 now!!!

AD6XS
12-14-2002, 12:34 AM
Due to severe QRM the net is moving to 14.316.5 MHz effective immediatly. No stations heard at 0030UTC when net began.

Sam
NEt Control
AD6XS

kf4zgd
12-14-2002, 12:45 AM
The net is on 14.318

-Steve KF4ZGD

12-14-2002, 01:01 AM
Tried listening to all posted freqencies, only heard faint stations, never enough to check in http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

kc0kji

KD5RNN
12-14-2002, 01:35 AM
I am sorry to say ,but ....

This is a joke you guys cannot decide on a frequency http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif


I get on 14.330 at 730 eastern and hear a station telling that it has moved to 14.316.5 so i go down to that and nothing heard after 10 min so i get on the web and see that no it is not 14.316.5 , but 14.318 ... finally i hear yall but weak ... i hear that yall are moving to 7.250 lsb ... so i go there .. after 20 min nothing heard but the roar of a AM broadcast !! .... If yall want I will act as a Centeral states net controll if yall need one on 40m. I have a vert and 150 w...

You guys need to get your act together then let me know if there is still gonna be a net for me to check into !! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif

73's and best regards
N5EIL, Neil

AD6XS
12-14-2002, 02:02 AM
I am sorry NEIL but, the net is still in planning stages How about you try to be organizing it with 20meters wall to wall with QRM??? That's the number one reason the freq. keeps changing. One freq. is found to be clear one second, and the next a kilowatter comes and blasts you and the Youth Net to kingdom come.

please be patient, the net will continue as we work out the problems.

:-[

Sam
AD6XS

Colorado

NG5L
12-14-2002, 02:58 AM
I agree with Sam.
Neil, you must understand what is taking place here. #HF is crowded and propagation is changing a bit for now.
Also, it will take a little time to establish a frequency that is pretty much standard.
A good net control operator is willing to change his frequency by a kHz or so anyway, although I know this was more than that tonight.
Just be patient and hang in there. #It will come together, but your not helping with negative waves. http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif

KC0KJI,
Try to check in anyway. I tried while only hearing faint stations and still made it. Once the net gets up and running, they may use relays to help anyone not hearing net control.
Try anyway.

kb3gvc
12-15-2002, 06:25 AM
Is 23 "young?"

John - Newark, DE
KB3GVC now /AE

W7TDC
12-15-2002, 06:51 PM
Great!, Im 16, been an Extra class for a year or so. Ill be on there.
73's
W7TDC

kf4zgd
12-16-2002, 02:34 AM
Sure 23 is still young!

Also, everybody keep an eye here over the next few days...we're working on updated plans for this week's net, and will announce them here soon.

73
-Steve KF4ZGD

ac5ta
12-19-2002, 03:25 PM
GREAT HAPPY TO SEE YOUNG FOLKS GETTING ACTIVE
HOPE ALL GOES WELL.

FRED AC5TA http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif

kg4wdx
12-20-2002, 07:43 AM
i live in south west Va (lynchburg area) and was wondering where you all are located at? I understand that you meet on the hf band but i was wondering where you are located at?
kg4wdx

KC2FDQ
12-21-2002, 12:04 AM
Young Ham net Frequency is: 14.329.0 - current as of 7http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif7 PM EST

73
Matthew

AD6XS
12-21-2002, 01:13 AM
Thanks guys for the great net. For those of you who forgot or were unable to check in, you missed a great net.

We had checkins from ages 14 up to the age of 24, and had the following states represented in the net: CA, CO, IL, MI, NJ, VA, and TX. #

Thanks again. And don't forget to check in next week to the Twenty Meter North American Youth Net at 00http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0UTC around 14.330 plus or minus a few kilohertz.

...and remember even if you cannot hear the net control, give us a call, someone else might hear you and help you get checked in.

Sam,
AD6XS
Net Control
Colorado
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KD5TMF
12-21-2002, 04:22 AM
Thanks to Sam for being such a "loud" net control. I will be available all next net so, I should be available to relay as needed. Will be experimenting with a new rig also.

73,
Colin KD5TMF
tornadochaser215@houston.rr.com

KG6OHD
12-21-2002, 09:04 PM
Hey there!!
This is KG6OHD, Melisa and I am 12 yrs. Just thought I should enter a post! so here I am. I just got my Tech on 12/12!! So im still pretty new but I hope to learn alot more!!!!! Christmas is coming up soon...................

****Melisa****

KG6OHD
12-21-2002, 09:30 PM
Hey ppl!

This KG6OHD, Melisa, 12 years old. Just wanted to say hi!!!!!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif I just got my ticket on 12/12!! So I'm pretty new to the site! Christmas is coming soon..................:)

****Melisa****

KG6OHD
12-22-2002, 07:59 PM
Hey guys and gurlz,
Just wanted to say hi this morning!!!!! Sooo.....HI!!!!!! Well, Christmas is coming soon................

***Melisa***

DL4EEC
12-24-2002, 11:58 AM
Hello World
Nice to read that many young amateurs are active in North America. In Europe we have every wednesday on 40 or 80m (7080/3680 +-) at 18http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif0Z.
At the packet radio world convers you´ll find on ch90 some young amateurs as well. We are from all over the world and we had many QSO´s on 15 and 10 the last years.
vy 73 de Alex DL4EEC
SEE YOU ON CH 90 or even on HF

dl4eec@arrl.net

KB3EDM
12-27-2002, 10:03 PM
I am a 15 year old ham with a General license. I think a youth net is a great idea! I hope it turns out well. I will try to check in when I can. I hope to meet more youth hams on the net. There are not a lot of youth hams that I talk to, and I would like to talk to more. Talk to you all on the net.

73

Dan KB3EDM

KD5TMF
12-27-2002, 11:34 PM
We may need to QSY to another frequency on 20 becasue there is someone on 14239.0 and 14332.0. How does 14305.0 sound to everyone??

73,
Colin KD5TMF

KD5TMF
12-27-2002, 11:41 PM
The people on 14329.0 are real stingy about their frequency (when i was there first) so how about we try 14305.0 tonight? I'll call for Sam on 14305.0 to keep the freq. open.

Colin KD5TMF

KD5TMF
12-28-2002, 12:00 AM
The net tonight will be on 14329.0 same as last week.

Colin KD5TMF

12-28-2002, 06:34 AM
qsl on the wonderful young hams with us!! keep it up, and have fun, don't worry about some of those folks who WILL sound jealous, and test your electronic knowledge, just remember, you probably have that code down, and if they want to enter your world, tell them to COME ON DOWN!!!! have fun kids, and pass it on to yours!!!!

KG6OHD
12-28-2002, 07:07 PM
Wow, I'm glad to see all the hams out here although I am new to it myself:p .........But, I will challenge everyone out there(including me) to upgrade their liscences. #So far this has been a fun experience and I hope to meet some more hams out there:D ...................

*~*~Melisa*~*~ KG6OHD

KB1IPK
12-31-2002, 10:32 PM
I think there needs to be a better way to post changes to the net. This is not the front page topic anymore, and there needs to be somewhere else where the information about the net can be viewed.

just my opinion!http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif
KB1IPK

Any ideas? http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif

KG6OHD
01-03-2003, 02:16 AM
Ok, so wait, theres a net? Wat time and wat frequency and what date? I've been hearing some conflict over wat frequency or something http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif well, hopefully someone will fill me in on some details! http://www.qrz.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif ttyl!

***Melisa*** KG6OHD

kf4zgd
01-11-2003, 02:30 AM
Hi again everybody! There's a new site where we're posting net updates. Its http://www.hamquick.com/youth/. We'll be posting frequency changes there, as well as any other pertinant info. So, check it out!!!

73
-Steve KF4ZGD