Ghetto Radio Club Website

[kb4mbu]

Finally, a club that makes ham radio fun for the younger hams. Come visit the Ghetto Radio Club website. We are based out of Miami Florida and invite you to come use our website and post on our forums. Register to the website and enter our contest for a free all-band dipole. Lets make ham radio fun for everyone!

Thanks,
KB4MBU

www.ghettoradioclub.com

[NI3B]

Your site contains vulgarities and is just plain ignorant. How is this promoting the hobby?

[KM5QF]

That's really sad. Gives amateur radio a black eye. Do u not realize any laughter is directed AT you and not WITH you? Pathetic

[NI3B]

That's really sad. Gives amateur radio a black eye. Do u not realize any laughter is directed AT you and not WITH you? Pathetic

While I applaud KB4MBU's efforts in attempting to promote the hobby I don't feel that the format is necessary (or effective) for promoting the hobby to the younger generation. It is funny as I do agree with the statements regarding repeater discussions.

When I'm educating someone in electronics or radio I don't recall ever feeling the need to use offensive language. But, hey, I'm sure that's just me.

Best,
Brian

[KM5QF]

Perhaps im looking at a much bigger picture here- not only do i find it vulgar and offensive on its own merits but also as a shining example of how the fears of so many in regards to the degradation of the standards of our hobby have been given yet another platform. granted this is my humble opinion but im just as entitled to it as are others to theirs.

[NN4RH]

Does your mommy know you're doing this?

[KD6NIG]

http://www.kd6nig.net/ms/1210884858447.jpg

Well, theres 5 seconds of my life I'll never get back.

[K6BTM]

Wow ! I just can't think of anything Positive to say about this site.
The Forum doesn't look to active... I wonder why. :rolleyes:

[N8CPA]

What's 'propogation?' Is that a radio phenomenon? There's a forum dedicated to it. I've never heard of it!

[W0LPQ]

CPA I wondered the same thing .. given that you have to log in to view anything, I left ... willl not return.

Vulgarities aside .. the site is not ... well thought out.

[KB3QLK]

While I'm not gonna pick on the fellows effort , I will say the words use on the forum poorly reflect amateur radio.

[k8wpj]

Your site contains vulgarities and is just plain ignorant. How is this promoting the hobby?


How is that different than, say for example...

Umm..

The 'Zed?

I am sure if you look, you can find the very same things like profanity, racist views, dirty shack pics, and other similar ignorance around here...

Has anyone paid attention to some of the things discussed in the 'political' threads lately?

Meanwhile to prepare myself for the inevitable flames I am about to recieve, I am off to find my flame resistant Underoos...

73's

Matt
K8WPJ

PS FWIW, based on what i saw of that site, it doesn't seem too active. I see it dying a slow death, from lack of support.

Just give it time.

[NN4RH]

How is that different than, say for example...

Umm..

The 'Zed?

I am sure if you look, you can find the very same things like profanity, racist views, dirty shack pics, and other similar ignorance around here...





The difference is that according to his date of birth data on his QRZ bio, this is a 39 year old man. And his opening post says he's targeting "younger hams".

[NN4RH]

QRZ lookup: KB4MBU is Mauricio C. Martinez Jr. of Miami, FL.

Google "Mauricio C. Martinez, Jr." and you find this:

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-277014A1.html

[K0CRX]

This is a perfect example of what is wrong with this hobby!!

[k7mh]

Just another website done by and for losers. Probably no one will ever register there.

[k8wpj]

The difference is that according to his date of birth data on his QRZ bio, this is a 39 year old man. And his opening post says he's targeting children.


Welll...

As they say, the devil is in the details, there.... Is he posting anything more than AR related material on that site?

I looked, I didn't see much of anything posted, let alone anything AR related.

As for targeting 'children' as such i never saw anything specific to children, but, rather 'young hams'... whatver that is. I also saw nothing to indicate he was actually meeting with anyone, aside from inviting hams to meet on the air for a rag chew, I didn;t much of anything at all.

Let alone anything to get wound up over,

As I said earlier, it may die off on it's own from lack of support... If you look at the dates of the posts, once you get past his recent posts from this past week, the original posts were from 2004...

the message boards are dead, and the only activity on the board is his rabblerousing from this past week... I say, let it be, and it will die off on it's own.

What defines a 'young ham' may be subject to debate. But, I really didn't see much of anything that would hold someone's interest for more than a second, even less so, for 'children'...

[NI3B]

How is that different than, say for example...

Umm..

The 'Zed?

I am sure if you look, you can find the very same things like profanity, racist views, dirty shack pics, and other similar ignorance around here...

Has anyone paid attention to some of the things discussed in the 'political' threads lately?

Meanwhile to prepare myself for the inevitable flames I am about to recieve, I am off to find my flame resistant Underoos...

73's

Matt
K8WPJ

PS FWIW, based on what i saw of that site, it doesn't seem too active. I see it dying a slow death, from lack of support.

Just give it time.


I must have missed where I said that there wasn't vulgarity or any other slander on the Zed. Please let me know where I stated this....I must have misspoke. However, the mods here on QRZ often act where appropriate. There is a big difference between a site that acts when inappropriate material is posted and one that encourages it.

Also, the website is only 4 days old according to WHOIS. That would explain why there isn't much activity.

[N8CPA]

Welll...

As they say, the devil is in the details, there.... Is he posting anything more than AR related material on that site?

I looked, I didn't see much of anything posted, let alone anything AR related.

As for targeting 'children' as such i never saw anything specific to children, but, rather 'young hams'... whatver that is. I also saw nothing to indicate he was actually meeting with anyone, aside from inviting hams to meet on the air for a rag chew, I didn;t much of anything at all.

Let alone anything to get wound up over,

As I said earlier, it may die off on it's own from lack of support... If you look at the dates of the posts, once you get past his recent posts from this past week, the original posts were from 2004...

the message boards are dead, and the only activity on the board is his rabblerousing from this past week... I say, let it be, and it will die off on it's own.

What defines a 'young ham' may be subject to debate. But, I really didn't see much of anything that would hold someone's interest for more than a second, even less so, for 'children'...

The targetting of "young hams" is an aspect of that website sets off my creep detector. The enforement letter doesn't surprise me either.

[kd8hho]

QRZ lookup: KB4MBU is Mauricio C. Martinez Jr. of Miami, FL.

Google "Mauricio C. Martinez, Jr." and you find this:

http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2003/DOC-277014A1.html

well he is one of the many FM pirates down in Miami... interesting...

[wy6k]

That's really sad. Gives amateur radio a black eye. Do u not realize any laughter is directed AT you and not WITH you? Pathetic

Forget ham radio, it gives America a bad name.

[KC9JIQ]

Finally, a club that makes ham radio fun for the younger hams. Come visit the Ghetto Radio Club website. We are based out of Miami Florida and invite you to come use our website and post on our forums. Register to the website and enter our contest for a free all-band dipole. Lets make ham radio fun for everyone!

Thanks,
KB4MBU

www.ghettoradioclub.com

http://www.435online.com/ Is still better. ;)


Ham radio should be entertaining!
http://w6dek.com/435dvrarchives/GDB/040-20040720_8.wav

[W4INF]

From the front page:
I wanna see damn beer cans everywhere!

1) So, what type of youth, or what age group are you trying to cater to?
2) Does your local detention center have internet access so they can check on the site?

[kb4mbu]

First off, what we meaning by younger hams is people in our age group from in our 20s to our 30s and the website was put up yesterday. Why we put it up? well to get input to change things around! not to be put down. Look I'm not a hater of ANY website, and the youngest operator here in our circle of friends is 20 and we talk about music, cars, nightlife or just plain radio talk. I believe that ham radio has been not attracting operators in the age bracket of 20 to 30 as much do to the fact that they find it boring and insulting when they hear operators down talk to others.

and the reason we call it the ghetto radio club, came from our field day set up when all of us said and I quote "wow now the looks like a ghetto setup"

and before all of you make judgements on people, I happen to be an international club DJ and we have engineers, club owners and even just plain folks that are our FRIENDS on our repeater and we don't hate we just have plain fun without talking politics, religion or topics to anger operators, now if you guys get offended by operator having fun well that's the problem with our hobby.

and we don't accept operator younger than 20 because we go to clubs and then talk about the night at the club or hanging out with our friends and stuff.

OH! and this is to the operator who "googled" my name and found that FCC action, WELL SINCE WHEN HAS A HAM BEEN HOLIER THAN THOU! yeah ok, like we as hams never done something on radio before. I seen hams using illegal software at hamfests example EDACS for m-rk radios, selling linears for cbs, running 4kw on 80meters. Give me a break!

We here are hams at heart and have enjoyed our hobby ever since we started. I got my ticket in 84' and have been using CW on hf ever since.

I have seen here on this website worse things written on the forums.

AGAIN WHEN OUR GROUP MEANS YOUGER WE MEAN 20 TO 30 NOT SOME 70 TO 80 YEAR OLDS THAT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THE NIGHTLIFE AND OUR TOPICS! CAUSE DON'T TALK ABOUT THE WEATHER OR MY XYL IS MAKING ME COFFEE!

73S
KB4MBU

PS: if you have doubts get on echolink node 208739 abd hear it our jump in

[ka5s]

PS: if you have doubts get on echolink node 208739 abd hear it our jump in

Nah. I'm too old. But have fun!


Cortland
KA5S

[KG4SYV]

Wow.. what a bunch of crap

[KG4SYV]

I would first like to start off by saying I am part of this group. I am a 20 year old ham that got his licence when he was 12 years old. If you look up my callsign on qrz, you will see me volunteering when I was about 14 years old. This website was designed by Mauricio and I to bring the youth (meaning people my age) into ham radio. The fact that you judge our radio practices or us by what you find on the internet shows how ignorant most of you really are. Mauricio and I are good standing hams that have done a lot for the amateur community and the fact that you guys are trying to digg up dirt on google makes me believe this forum is full of a bunch of old men who can't handle the younger croud. Maybe ill look up all your callsigns and see what you guys have done :-) I'm sure I can find some dirt on someone. This is my first QRZ forum experience and I will assure you this will be my last because I feel that I don't want to deal with a bunch of winey geriatrics.

Thank you,
Christian Jensen
KG4SYV

[n5vag]

yall know what I personally coded the website and if my content offends you then open your freaking minds. i didn't ask yalls permission nor did i solicit yalls approval. if you want to check us out feel free if not then dont bitch about it. oh and look me up on QRZ im 23 years old and i target the 20-30 age group not kids. check it out or shut the hell up i swear yall are quick to pass judgment.

73

have a nice day

KE5VAG

[wy6k]

Wow.. what a bunch of crap

Go for it guys. But please remember that Ham Radio is a public forum - it is not a private line. I think a commitment to civilization calls for behavior that is a bit more respectable and refined than a private conversation - especially of the type that are likely to take place in a club or when drinking is involved. I didn't like your put down of older hams or the apparent encouragement of raw language.

The purpose of Ham Radio is not just to have fun and faciliate conversations. The point is to advance civilization and, to that end, technology. Read the Amateur's Code and encourage your users to adhere to it and you will be going a great service for Ham Radio and the world in general.

The idea of certain repeaters becoming popular among certain age groups makes a lot of sense to me. And a group like yours setting out to make it so seems like a worthy endeavor.

I doubt you will get much pushback if you encourage decent behavior. But I suspect you will get a lot of pushback if there is crude, profane, or trash talk on the repeater.

[n5vag]

and why were on the subject of offensive what in the hell was offensive about my website tell me that

[W7KI]

and why were on the subject of offensive what in the hell was offensive about my website tell me that

I was kind of wondering that myself. Back in my early 20's I remember plenty of late nights pounding down a few beers, listening to music, and firing up the HF radio with a handful of fellow hams my age. Of course we behaved ourselves on the air and everything but those sure were some fun times.

[kb4mbu]

first off!!! in my repeater we don't use offensive language or "crude behavior" we are just relaxed hams and we are the first ones to get crack'n when there is a situation that need hams. example "hurricanes in Miami" We just had a few of operators from this forum check in and guess what! they are save our link on their echolink. Hmmmm now if we were bad guys I guess they wouldn'r right? I always come to this site to ready ham news and stuff ut to me it is nasty when people pass judgement.

73s
kb4mbu

[kb4mbu]

I was kind of wondering that myself. Back in my early 20's I remember plenty of late nights pounding down a few beers, listening to music, and firing up the HF radio with a handful of fellow hams my age. Of course we behaved ourselves on the air and everything but those sure were some fun times.


Now that's someone who understands! Thank you Sir.:D

[wy6k]

yall know what I personally coded the website and if my content offends you then open your freaking minds. i didn't ask yalls permission nor did i solicit yalls approval. if you want to check us out feel free if not then dont bitch about it. oh and look me up on QRZ im 23 years old and i target the 20-30 age group not kids. check it out or shut the hell up i swear yall are quick to pass judgment.

73

have a nice day

KE5VAG

This is from your website: In the mornings, it is the older people screaming about traffic and how its so horrible and what they are going to do during the day. During the afternoons/nights, it is old man jack talking about how his colostomy bag is killing him or how his "gas problem" keeps up at night. This isn't what a young guy wants to hear!

So who started with the "passing judgement"??

If you seriously think you can insult people that way and not get a negative reaction then you still have a lot of maturation to do.

[n5vag]

first off!!! in my repeater we don't use offensive language or "crude behavior" we are just relaxed hams and we are the first ones to get crack'n when there is a situation that need hams. example "hurricanes in Miami" We just had a few of operators from this forum check in and guess what! they are save our link on their echolink. Hmmmm now if we were bad guys I guess they wouldn'r right? I always come to this site to ready ham news and stuff ut to me it is nasty when people pass judgement.

73s
kb4mbu

not to mention helping hams such as myself get my General and tech support when people need it

thank you mauricio

73

KE5VAG

[n5vag]

I would first like to start off by saying I am part of this group. I am a 20 year old ham that got his licence when he was 12 years old. If you look up my callsign on qrz, you will see me volunteering when I was about 14 years old. This website was designed by Mauricio and I to bring the youth (meaning people my age) into ham radio. The fact that you judge our radio practices or us by what you find on the internet shows how ignorant most of you really are. Mauricio and I are good standing hams that have done a lot for the amateur community and the fact that you guys are trying to digg up dirt on google makes me believe this forum is full of a bunch of old men who can't handle the younger croud. Maybe ill look up all your callsigns and see what you guys have done :-) I'm sure I can find some dirt on someone. This is my first QRZ forum experience and I will assure you this will be my last because I feel that I don't want to deal with a bunch of winey geriatrics.

Thank you,
Christian Jensen
KG4SYV


nice updates on the site man sorry i couldnt help further i been busy

[N4PRT]

yall know what I personally coded the website and if my content offends you then open your freaking minds. i didn't ask yalls permission nor did i solicit yalls approval. if you want to check us out feel free if not then dont bitch about it. oh and look me up on QRZ im 23 years old and i target the 20-30 age group not kids. check it out or shut the hell up i swear yall are quick to pass judgment. KE5VAG

I don't even know where to start. If you are not seeking approval, just what was the purpose of you and your PR man appearing here on the Zed and announcing this travesty? As to the site presentation, who cares? Gee, just how much coding did you have to do to this Joomla site? Looks like mostly stock template with a shoddy forum component. You may wish to look at SMF with the bridge. There is a little learning curve, unlike a plug and play component. On second thought--belay that idea. It appears that you have already been educated beyond your native intelligence.

What do I find offensive? Well, the language on your site in reference to bringing hams into radio. Not appropriate. Perhaps your whiney post and attitude here on QRZ? That could be. Maybe the ignorant symbol of white supremacy and bigotry that you use for your avatar? Most definitely.

After a little consideration, I find everything you have presented us with to be offensive.:eek:

[KB3QLK]

I don't even know where to start. :eek:
Donts bees 4gettins the propers use of da engrish:rolleyes::D yall

[NN4RH]

OH! and this is to the operator who "googled" my name and found that FCC action, WELL SINCE WHEN HAS A HAM BEEN HOLIER THAN THOU!

According to the FCC document, you were running an illegal radio station out of your house that was transmitting with a field strength measuring 54,478 microvolts/meter 190 meters away, when the FCC regulatory limit is 250 at 3 meters!

That's way beyond "holier than thou" territory.

[kb4mbu]

This is from your website:

So who started with the "passing judgement"??

If you seriously think you can insult people that way and not get a negative reaction then you still have a lot of maturation to do.


Now what is insulting about Old man Jack, hmmm have you been on 75 meters lately. Now that's insulting

[kb4mbu]

I don't even know where to start. If you are not seeking approval, just what was the purpose of you and your PR man appearing here on the Zed and announcing this travesty? As to the site presentation, who cares? Gee, just how much coding did you have to do to this Joomla site? Looks like mostly stock template with a shoddy forum component. You may wish to look at SMF with the bridge. There is a little learning curve, unlike a plug and play component. On second thought--belay that idea. It appears that you have already been educated beyond your native intelligence.

What do I find offensive? Well, the language on your site in reference to bringing hams into radio. Not appropriate. Perhaps your whiney post and attitude here on QRZ? That could be. Maybe the ignorant symbol of white supremacy and bigotry that you use for your avatar? Most definitely.

After a little consideration, I find everything you have presented us with to be offensive.:eek:

Well, "white supremacy?" buddy this is Miami the melting pot of the world! and by the way most of our friends don't believe in that stuff. Hmmm to of our friend 's wife is "black dominian" and she's a ham too. Oh and he's white cuban.

like I said join in on echolink 208739 and you'll see.

73s

[WA6MHZ]

I better not put up a website! Too much ragging on it here.

[k2nrc]

let me quote kb4mbu, 'first off', from there, this is another one of those threads i just can't read completely-though it does have its highlights from what i did read! in case anybody misinterpreted 'miami', it doesn't appear as though we're talking south beach/rich & famous, more like inner city miami & rich & infamous....music(gangster rap), cars(lowriders), nightlife(sex, drugs & drive by's), & just plain radio talk (27.025 as well as pirate fm).
hmmmmm, i do however find merit in his statement 'I believe that ham radio has been not attracting operators in the age bracket of 20 to 30 as much do to the fact that they find it boring and insulting when they hear operators down talk to others', BUT it is at the FCC's discretion to decide whether or not these folks are issued licenses based on their being 'upstanding citizens', not Joe ham's discretion.
while i converse frequently with hams that are in the music industry including southern rock bands, country bands, oldies bands, and broadcast engineers for top 40 radio stations, oldies stations, PBS stations, etc, 'international club DJ and...engineers, club owners and even just plain folks that are our FRIENDS' isn't a red flag for problems, but, start with 'ghetto radio club' and THAT is a red flag, or at least subliminal reminder of rap star slayings and the such....thoughts like that are part of being from ny.
no i am not being 'judgemental on people', i have not passed a code test-nor do i have any desire to-which in some hams eyes starts me off on lower footing then somebody who 'got my ticket in 84' and have been using CW on hf ever since'. heck i even have a cb in my car for my family trips into PA and work trips into nj. to top that off, i hear the noise on 27.025, how can i not?
yeah, again you have a point with the 'HOLIER THAN THOU' ham comment, i'm sorry to say. but while i try to convince those that you refer to, that i AM capable of carrying the ham torch by the way i carry myself, you have gone about it the wrong way. ALLEGEDLY in trouble for 'pirate radio', honestly, so what. had you been in trouble for illegal cb use or scanner use or cell phone use, so what. if the FCC decided (NOT joe ham) that you aren't worthy of holding an amateur radio license, then you probably wouldn't be here right now. no i didn't go much past the 1st couple lines of your site, mainly because it starts right off on the wrong foot, as in not neccessarily MY cup of tea. for that matter, if i was looking for radio sites, i wouldn't have even checked out 'ghetto radio club'. sorry, that's just me-and obviously everyone else here. hey, a different name supported by 'graffiti graphics' and less 'ghetto' language-PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THAT THE WRONG WAY-might have worked. the current way just doesn't.
you know what, i truly defended some of your ideas as best i can-YOU actually make a good point or 2 even, but.........:confused:

[n5vag]

I don't even know where to start. If you are not seeking approval, just what was the purpose of you and your PR man appearing here on the Zed and announcing this travesty? As to the site presentation, who cares? Gee, just how much coding did you have to do to this Joomla site? Looks like mostly stock template with a shoddy forum component. You may wish to look at SMF with the bridge. There is a little learning curve, unlike a plug and play component. On second thought--belay that idea. It appears that you have already been educated beyond your native intelligence.

What do I find offensive? Well, the language on your site in reference to bringing hams into radio. Not appropriate. Perhaps your whiney post and attitude here on QRZ? That could be. Maybe the ignorant symbol of white supremacy and bigotry that you use for your avatar? Most definitely.

After a little consideration, I find everything you have presented us with to be offensive.:eek:


im a white supremacist who hangs out on a repeater in miami owned by a cuban and joined with several other ethnic groups hmmm interesting

i think somebody needs a history lesson

[N4PRT]

Well, "white supremacy?" buddy this is Miami the melting pot of the world! and by the way most of our friends don't believe in that stuff. Hmmm to of our friend 's wife is "black dominian" and she's a ham too. Oh and he's white cuban.

like I said join in on echolink 208739 and you'll see.

73s

I am referring to the avatar used by your ardent supporter KE5VAG. As to Miami being the "melting pot of the world", I lived in Florida for 33 years. More appropriately it is the armpit of South Florida.

Good luck with your site. Good luck with your echolink experience.

[kb4mbu]

According to the FCC document, you were running an illegal radio station out of your house that was transmitting with a field strength measuring 54,478 microvolts/meter 190 meters away, when the FCC regulatory limit is 250 at 3 meters!

That's way beyond "holier than thou" territory.


Now how many hams have their non type accepted HTs moded to TX on GMRS, police and fire frequencies. hmmm where is the justification in that. Oh wait what about hams moding their HF rig for 11meters and using SB 220 linears moded for 10 meters to use on CB is legal? Oh and even pirate on 6955khz using their HF rigs. Give me a break!

it is illegal to use a moded HT on frequencies that they are not type accepted! oh but the weather whackers will justify themselvses

[kb4mbu]

I am referring to the avatar used by your ardent supporter KE5VAG. As to Miami being the "melting pot of the world", I lived in Florida for 33 years. More appropriately it is the armpit of South Florida.

Good luck with your site. Good luck with your echolink experience.

Yeah with the most money and the most accepting people, yeah it's the armpit. Now that's insulting the natives and the people of Miami.

And thank you for the good luck. "taken kindly"

[KB3QLK]

Somebody light a match:rolleyes:

[ab8ro]

According to the FCC document, you were running an illegal radio station out of your house that was transmitting with a field strength measuring 54,478 microvolts/meter 190 meters away, when the FCC regulatory limit is 250 at 3 meters!

That's way beyond "holier than thou" territory.

Don't you just love the dry language of the FCC. That's quite a signal.

[kb4mbu]

[QUOTE=k2nrc;1273901]let me quote kb4mbu, 'first off', from there, this is another one of those threads i just can't read completely-though it does have its highlights from what i did read! in case anybody misinterpreted 'miami', it doesn't appear as though we're talking south beach/rich & famous, more like inner city miami & rich & infamous....music(gangster rap), cars(lowriders), nightlife(sex, drugs & drive by's), & just plain radio talk (27.025 as well as pirate fm).
hmmmmm, i do however find merit in his statement 'I believe that ham radio has been not attracting operators in the age bracket of 20 to 30 as much do to the fact that they find it boring and insulting when they hear operators down talk to others', BUT it is at the FCC's discretion to decide whether or not these folks are issued licenses based on their being 'upstanding citizens', not Joe ham's discretion.
while i converse frequently with hams that are in the music industry including southern rock bands, country bands, oldies bands, and broadcast engineers for top 40 radio stations, oldies stations, PBS stations, etc, 'international club DJ and...engineers, club owners and even just plain folks that are our FRIENDS' isn't a red flag for problems, but, start with 'ghetto radio club' and THAT is a red flag, or at least subliminal reminder of rap star slayings and the such....thoughts like that are part of being from ny.
no i am not being 'judgemental on people', i have not passed a code test-nor do i have any desire to-which in some hams eyes starts me off on lower footing then somebody who 'got my ticket in 84' and have been using CW on hf ever since'. heck i even have a cb in my car for my family trips into PA and work trips into nj. to top that off, i hear the noise on 27.025, how can i not?
yeah, again you have a point with the 'HOLIER THAN THOU' ham comment, i'm sorry to say. but while i try to convince those that you refer to, that i AM capable of carrying the ham torch by the way i carry myself, you have gone about it the wrong way. ALLEGEDLY in trouble for 'pirate radio', honestly, so what. had you been in trouble for illegal cb use or scanner use or cell phone use, so what. if the FCC decided (NOT joe ham) that you aren't worthy of holding an amateur radio license, then you probably wouldn't be here right now. no i didn't go much past the 1st couple lines of your site, mainly because it starts right off on the wrong foot, as in not neccessarily MY cup of tea. for that matter, if i was looking for radio sites, i wouldn't have even checked out 'ghetto radio club'. sorry, that's just me-and obviously everyone else here. hey, a different name supported by 'graffiti graphics' and less 'ghetto' language-PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THAT THE WRONG WAY-might have worked. the current way just doesn't.
you know what, i truly defended some of your ideas as best i can-YOU actually make a good point or 2 even, but.........:confused:[/QUOTE

Hmmm, sir I don't listen to RAP or drive a lowrider. First I'm a club Dj that plays worldwide and I drive a BMW Z4 uh yeah I must be inner city right? hmm funny. and if you know about Southbeach nowadays the night life there now is all rap and lowriders but I guess people are still seeing those 80s post cards still. but thank for defending the point

[KC9ECI]

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[KC4RAN]

They'll have to delete every link to that forum if they're going to adhere to the TOS, Tom. Nothing on that site would even come close...

[KC9ECI]

They'll have to delete every link to that forum if they're going to adhere to the TOS, Tom. Nothing on that site would even come close...


I looked at the site early this morning when I first moved the thread out of ragchew and in to t&o. Aside from some salty language I didn't see anything to get my thong in a bunch over. I'm down with a messy shack photo contest. I personally know a couple guys that could be contenders in that event. Myself included at the moment. I at least have an excuse, I'm tearing the carpet out of here. Haven't decided if I'm going to go with hardwood flooring or tile yet. Just no more carpet.

[ab8ro]

I looked at the site early this morning when I first moved the thread out of ragchew and in to t&o. Aside from some salty language I didn't see anything to get my thong in a bunch over. I'm down with a messy shack photo contest. I personally know a couple guys that could be contenders in that event. Myself included at the moment. I at least have an excuse, I'm tearing the carpet out of here. Haven't decided if I'm going to go with hardwood flooring or tile yet. Just no more carpet.

Just in case you ever get the itch, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you now, and I think I speak for almost everyone here, DO NOT post pictures of said "thong."

[KC9ECI]

Just in case you ever get the itch, I'm gonna go ahead and tell you now, and I think I speak for almost everyone here, DO NOT post pictures of said "thong."

You KNOW you want to see it. Here you go: http://www.cafepress.com/SKCC.45193692

[n5vag]

free dipole antenna to the messiest ham shack man

KE5VAG

[ab8ro]

Now how many hams have their non type accepted HTs moded to TX on GMRS, police and fire frequencies. hmmm where is the justification in that. Oh wait what about hams moding their HF rig for 11meters and using SB 220 linears moded for 10 meters to use on CB is legal? Oh and even pirate on 6955khz using their HF rigs. Give me a break!

it is illegal to use a moded HT on frequencies that they are not type accepted! oh but the weather whackers will justify themselvses

It certainly is illegal to do those things. The point isn't that other people do things that are not legal, rather, it's that you did something that was not only illegal but is a more severe violation. That FM signal was WELL outside the range of "I changed a few resistors in my ramsey kit so the signal would reach upstairs from the basement."

Your point is fallacious on several levels. In simple terms, two wrongs don't make a right. In other words, pointing out the flaws in others doesn't mitigate your own violation. Second, your hypothetical violations have nothing to do with those here. Finally, you are equating violations of dissimilar magnitude. As much as it gets the panties of some in a bunch, there IS a difference between using your ham transceiver on FRS or CB at the appropriate power levels vs doing the same thing with obscenely high power levels.

I have a part 15 fm transmitter in this very room. I believe that it's legal, however, it's possible that it's transmitting 300 microvolts at 3 meters but I don't have the equipment to verify that. Now, do you think that the FCC views your case differently than mine, or do you think that they will say that they are one and the same?

[k2nrc]

'you know what, i truly defended some of your ideas as best i can-YOU actually make a good point or 2 even, but.........:confused:' .
now, to the hams that i unfortunately had to say 'i agree with kb4mbu about', WHY must you continue to give free publicity????? :eek:

[kb4mbu]

It certainly is illegal to do those things. The point isn't that other people do things that are not legal, rather, it's that you did something that was not only illegal but is a more severe violation. That FM signal was WELL outside the range of "I changed a few resistors in my ramsey kit so the signal would reach upstairs from the basement."

Your point is fallacious on several levels. In simple terms, two wrongs don't make a right. In other words, pointing out the flaws in others doesn't mitigate your own violation. Second, your hypothetical violations have nothing to do with those here. Finally, you are equating violations of dissimilar magnitude. As much as it gets the panties of some in a bunch, there IS a difference between using your ham transceiver on FRS or CB at the appropriate power levels vs doing the same thing with obscenely high power levels.

I have a part 15 fm transmitter in this very room. I believe that it's legal, however, it's possible that it's transmitting 300 microvolts at 3 meters but I don't have the equipment to verify that. Now, do you think that the FCC views your case differently than mine, or do you think that they will say that they are one and the same?

I know that two wrongs don't make a right! but sir EVEN changing "two resistors" on your part 15 is illegal read the rules sir. and NO you can't use ham rigs on CB even at legal power levels. Try again! Try saying your call letters on a police frequency and say you are ham by FCC rules and you'll see how fast you'll get arrested then the licensed pulled, fined and then brought up on federal charges.

[n5vag]

yall need to grab a beer and a mic and come join us and see what were all about

[NN4RH]

free dipole antenna to the messiest ham shack man

KE5VAG


Sounds like a real hootin' good time . . yall . . man

[NN4RH]

yall need to grab a beer and a mic and come join us and see what were all about

Even better yall . . . man

[kb4mbu]

But we are serious about that contest, we will send you a free dipole. Everybody is welcome to join anytime on echolink. We had some of you join in today and all I can say is THANK YOU, they were a nice bunch.

73s

[wb5ydk]

KB4MBU, KG4SYV & KE5VAG,

Good luck with your ham radio group. It looks like a worthwhile effort to pull together your targeted age group and promote Amateur Radio. Your website comments about repeater usage were funny (and probably true).

Years ago, I remember how uninspiring it was to listen "on-air" to a bunch of old geezers boasting of their medical maladies in the same manner that decorated war veterans might compare their medals of valor. Now that I have gotten a little older myself, I can begin to understand the enthusiasm of the senior hams to share medical information. But, I am not so closed-minded to forget what was important/entertaining to a younger man.

[ab8ro]

I know that two wrongs don't make a right!


Well then, stop trying to justify your blatantly illegal behavior.


but sir EVEN changing "two resistors" on your part 15 is illegal read the rules sir.


First, changing resistors on a part 15 transmitter is perfectly legal. Using any arbitrary power level is also legal, so long as your field strength meets the specs. It seems that you don't understand the rules at all. Of course that's not surprising.

My point was that there is a VAST difference between adjusting a 10mw transmitter and using thousands of times the allowed power.

and NO you can't use ham rigs on CB even at legal power levels. Try again!


I didn't suggest that it was. However, again you're only partially correct as it's perfectly legal to use your ham transmitter on certain CB frequencies if your field strength meets part 15 requirements.


Try saying your call letters on a police frequency and say you are ham by FCC rules and you'll see how fast you'll get arrested then the licensed pulled, fined and then brought up on federal charges.

Another red herring on your part. What exactly ARE you talking about?

What we've observed so far is that YOU have been involved in an FCC enforcement for BLATANT violation of part 15 and now you're trying to somehow suggest that it's "ok" because you know that some hams convert their transmitters?

[W4LXE]

It appears there has been a misunderstanding with the terminology used when referring to young hams and the term “getto” in regards to the KB4MBU – GARS repeater. I became a ham at the age of 12, but back then there was no computers, video games, or as many channels on TV like there are now and AR was at its peak. The message trying to be conveyed here is to try to get more new hams involved in the safe, beautiful and ever expanding hobby of Amateur Radio which is not nearly as popular as it was back then. And as far as the term ‘getto’ goes; it came from a field day held here in Miami and the appearings of the radio setups.

That I know of there are only one or two repeaters in the whole south Florida that are active, and that is once a week for one hour for their weekly net, yet try to coordinate a pair; its almost impossible, if you scan the 2 meters or 70cm bands they sound deserted, yet it is almost as difficult as trying t get a spot on the FM broadcast band. Now here is a group of individuals trying to do something good, and in the other hand some have nothing better to do than to criticize before finding out the facts. Well I am sure you are all welcome to the kb4mbu repeater, where AR is strongly promoted, young or old, but the fact is that we try to motivate enthusiast to get their licence and join the hobby, and most likely that would be those would are technically inclined and individuals starting off new carriers or those working in the electronics field or anybody for that matter. And lets face it AR is not booming right now like it was in the late 70’s early 80’s. So with that said I give props to all those who encourage new hams. Think about it, all these coordinated repeaters in south Florida and none have the traffic that this repeater has? Well, at least some people are talking on the radio down here. When you think of it, why strive for an extra class, spend thousands on equipment, and have nobody to QSO with.

[KC9ECI]

I didn't suggest that it was. However, again you're only partially correct as it's perfectly legal to use your ham transmitter on certain CB frequencies if your field strength meets part 15 requirements.


Not where the FCC has jurisdiction.

[kb4mbu]

KB4MBU, KG4SYV & KE5VAG,

Good luck with your ham radio group. It looks like a worthwhile effort to pull together your targeted age group and promote Amateur Radio. Your website comments about repeater usage were funny (and probably true).

Years ago, I remember how uninspiring it was to listen "on-air" to a bunch of old geezers boasting of their medical maladies in the same manner that decorated war veterans might compare their medals of valor. Now that I have gotten a little older myself, I can begin to understand the enthusiasm of the senior hams to share medical information. But, I am not so closed-minded to forget what was important/entertaining to a younger man.


Thank you sir!!!! more hams like you should be here.

[NN4RH]

Now here is a group of individuals trying to do something good,

If by "something good" you mean guzzling beer, using profanity, flying the confederate flag, and stereotyping older hams as ". . old man jack talking about how his colostomy bag is killing him or how his "gas problem" keeps up at night.", then, sorry, I don't see the attraction or the benefit.

It's just another sad little cliche yacking on a repeater complaining about other people. It's not the salvation of ham radio.

yall

[kb4mbu]

Well then, stop trying to justify your blatantly illegal behavior.



First, changing resistors on a part 15 transmitter is perfectly legal. Using any arbitrary power level is also legal, so long as your field strength meets the specs. It seems that you don't understand the rules at all. Of course that's not surprising.

My point was that there is a VAST difference between adjusting a 10mw transmitter and using thousands of times the allowed power.



I didn't suggest that it was. However, again you're only partially correct as it's perfectly legal to use your ham transmitter on certain CB frequencies if your field strength meets part 15 requirements.



Another red herring on your part. What exactly ARE you talking about?

What we've observed so far is that YOU have been involved in an FCC enforcement for BLATANT violation of part 15 and now you're trying to somehow suggest that it's "ok" because you know that some hams convert their transmitters?



NO it's not legal to use ham rigs on CB cause they are NOT type accepted for that use!!!! learn your rules! regardsless of part15 or not it is not type accepted the only you can use a TX that is not type accept on the 11 meter band or other band is to follow the sub part of part 15.219 or 209 "field stength" and it has to built by you and no more than 5 units.

So go show the FCC your moded HT with TX other frequencies and tell him/her that you use it and you will get the nicest N.A.L

[kb4mbu]

Not where the FCC has jurisdiction.

Thank you sir

[k8wpj]

im a white supremacist who hangs out on a repeater in miami owned by a cuban and joined with several other ethnic groups hmmm interesting

i think somebody needs a history lesson


Ya just gotta love an admitted 'white supremacist' who flames others for being 'judgemental'.....

You Sir, make quite an effective arguement for retroactive birth control....

[KB3QLK]

While Ill agree on the rules please dont preach to us as you yourself have been proven to be a major violator.

NO it's not legal to use ham rigs on CB cause they are NOT type accepted for that use!!!! learn your rules! regardsless of part15 or not it is not type accepted the only you can use a TX that is not type accept on the 11 meter band or other band is to follow the sub part of part 15.219 or 209 "field stength" and it has to built by you and no more than 5 units.

So go show the FCC your moded HT with TX other frequencies and tell him/her that you use it and you will get the nicest N.A.L

[KG4SYV]

Wow. Let me clear up this white supremecy crap. The fact is, just because you have a confederate flag on your avatar does not mean you are a white supremacist. The confederate flag stands for people (no matter what the reason) who questioned their government and took a stand. That takes patriotism. Thats more than what I can say for most americans. By touting that flag, he is not standing for white supremacy but, he is standing more for what this country stood for. The freedom to question government and the right to make a statement. I am not saying I condone the confedercies stance on African American rights but, I do condone anyone to stand up for what they believe in.

[kb4mbu]

While Ill agree on the rules please dont preach to us as you yourself have been proven to be a major violator.


OK and? and what have done to help the hobby???? or future hams?

[KB3QLK]

Let me pat you on the back:rolleyes: once you've stopped walking around the issue of your FCC violation and please stop pointing out the wrongs of other while not even admitting your wrongs.
OK and? and what have done to help the hobby???? or future hams?

[ab8ro]

NO it's not legal to use ham rigs on CB cause they are NOT type accepted for that use!!!! learn your rules! regardsless of part15 or not it is not type accepted the only you can use a TX that is not type accept on the 11 meter band or other band is to follow the sub part of part 15.219 or 209 "field stength" and it has to built by you and no more than 5 units.


Now we're quibbling over what "built by you" means.


So go show the FCC your moded HT with TX other frequencies and tell him/her that you use it and you will get the nicest N.A.L

None of mine are modified hombre. That's the point, only you have the FCC citation, despite your song and dance and claiming to know the rules.

How much power was that anyway 100 watts?

[NN4RH]

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[k8wpj]

OK and? and what have done to help the hobby???? or future hams?

What?

You mean like taking the time to study for and pass the tests needed to become licenced, and then making it a practice to obey the rules governing my licence, and trying to show others the 'RIGHT' way to operate a station legally?:rolleyes:

[wb5ydk]

im a white supremacist who hangs out on a repeater in miami owned by a cuban and joined with several other ethnic groups hmmm interestingFolks, he is making the "white supremacist" comment in jest.

[ai4ep]

Why, I was always TOLD that the white race was supreme over all others....was I lied to in my youth ?

[NN4RH]

Wow. Let me clear up this white supremecy crap. The fact is, just because you have a confederate flag on your avatar does not mean you are a white supremacist. The confederate flag stands for people (no matter what the reason) who questioned their government and took a stand. That takes patriotism. Thats more than what I can say for most americans. By touting that flag, he is not standing for white supremacy but, he is standing more for what this country stood for. The freedom to question government and the right to make a statement. I am not saying I condone the confedercies stance on African American rights but, I do condone anyone to stand up for what they believe in.


I rather doubt that this guy is using the confederate flag because he's "patriotic". Much more likely that he's just using it to troll for notoriety. Otherwise nobody would pay any attention to him. Kind of sad, really.

By the way, the Confederacy lost, in case you didn't notice that part.

[ai4ep]

...hard to call some group " losers " when most of the new car manufacturing plants are located in those USA states.

Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, and numerous others are locating or have located in that " loser " land of the south.


Should I elaborate some more with the simple facts, as of the current time and century ?

[NN3W]

You all are not going to want to hear this....

But the fact of the matter is that what KB4MBU writes about on his website is, to a large extent, true.

Sorry, but it is.

Folks in the <40 age bracket are generally NOT interested in round table nets, are not interested in hearing about personal medical ailments, are not interested in slow talkers on AM, and are not interested in traffic reports.

Whenever I go to Dayton or to a ham picnic, there is an unprecedented level of cynicism about many older hams. Many view them as slow thinking, fat, unhealthy, stuck in time, and condescending towards those who didn't pass the exam at the FCC office after a 2.0 hour drive from home.

The feeling is not universally directed at all older hams, but there is enough fodder for the cannon to launch a 5 pounder 10 or 12 miles.

[NN4RH]

...hard to call some group " losers " when most of the new car manufacturing plants are located in those USA states.

Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, and numerous others are locating or have located in that " loser " land of the south.

Should I elaborate some more with the simple facts, as of the current time and century ?

I have no idea why you think that has anything to do with the Confederacy losing their insurrection over 140 years ago.

[KB3QLK]

I have no idea why you think that has anything to do with the Confederacy losing their insurrection over 140 years ago.
Perhaps they should of drove a Volkswagen back then:D

[ab8ro]

You all are not going to want to hear this....

But the fact of the matter is that what KB4MBU writes about on his website is, to a large extent, true.

Sorry, but it is.

Folks in the <40 age bracket are generally NOT interested in round table nets, are not interested in hearing about personal medical ailments, are not interested in slow talkers on AM, and are not interested in traffic reports.


No disagreement. I like the idea of breaking the mold. You just don't need swearing, racist symbolism, or gross violations of FCC rules to do it.

[KC9ECI]

No disagreement. I like the idea of breaking the mold. You just don't need swearing, racist symbolism, or gross violations of FCC rules to do it.

Copy some SSTV someday, you'll find nudity, profanity, racist symbols, gross violations of FCC rules...

Bottom line is this: These guys have a website where they can talk about aspects of amateur radio that they find interesting. They thought enough of it that they wanted to share it with everyone. If it isn't your cup of tea, don't go to the site. There is no reason to rain on the parade. If one of the website creators had an encounter with the FCC and everything has been taken care of to Uncle Charlie's satisfaction and he's operationg within the rules and regulations, then 'let the dead rest and the past remain the past.'

[NN3W]

No disagreement. I like the idea of breaking the mold. You just don't need swearing, racist symbolism, or gross violations of FCC rules to do it.

I saw one "swear" word on the website. You can find more vulgarity on MTV, Spike, or even through the "live microphone" aired through a NFL broadcast - certainly enough on the Zed....

I don't see any racist symbolism on the website. If you're talking about one person's avatar, you're entering into a political discussion where some connote racism with a certain avatar; others will argue that the symbol is nothing more than pride in one's freedom; others still will argue that the current flag that flies over buildings such as the White House, the Capitol and Arlington National Cemetary is inherently racist given the treatment accorded those who were actually here prior to the arrival of northern europeans in the 17th and 18th centuries.

As to gross violations of FCC rules, the willingness to associate with one who has been cited for a prior infraction is a choice for each licensed ham. There are a large number of licensees who have had notices issued, but continue to operate. Indeed, in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s countless well known DXers received warning notices and citations for running California kilowatts. Undoubtedly, they have continued to be welcome within the amateur fraternity, no?

[ai4ep]

but a volkswagon DOES get pretty good gasoline mileage, does it not ?

[kb4mbu]

No disagreement. I like the idea of breaking the mold. You just don't need swearing, racist symbolism, or gross violations of FCC rules to do it.

Who is swearing, using gross violation of FCC rules and better yet racist symbolism? buddy please learn some history. and again since when are people from racist?!?!? Sir this a melting pot! Sir crawl out from under the rock and come to Miami and try find white racist people hahahaha I'll give a HF rig not a dipole!

[NI3B]

and why were on the subject of offensive what in the hell was offensive about my website tell me that

First off was the vulgar language. As a responsible adult I never use this type of language in a public open forum. I know that this is the internet and these things are widely accepted, however, not by all....and not by me. I often promote the hobby of amateur radio, especially to young people who I would never subject them to the type of language which appeared on your website.

Do you really want to promote the hobby of amateur radio?

This hobby we share is made up of all types of people with all kinds of backgrounds. What may be acceptable to one person may be totally unacceptable to another. You need to keep this in mind if you truly want to promote the hobby in a positive light.

You may say that you are targeting 20 to 30 year olds, however, keep in mind that there are many younger (10 - 16 year olds) that are introduced to the hobby everyday. As I've stated earlier in one of my replies that I applaud your efforts in promoting the hobby. I just think that you are going about it the wrong way. Again, as I've stated above, my thinking is obviously different that your thinking.

Best,
Brian

[KB3QLK]

Who is swearing, using gross violation of FCC rules and ......buddy please learn some history.
Your history shows violations of FCC rules and your web site covers the swearing.:rolleyes:I have learn some history havent I?:D

[KG4SYV]

First off was the vulgar language. As a responsible adult I never use this type of language in a public open forum. I know that this is the internet and these things are widely accepted, however, not by all....and not by me. I often promote the hobby of amateur radio, especially to young people who I would never subject them to the type of language which appeared on your website.


Your the same kind of person who blamed columbine on Marilyn Manson. Give me a break. How many of moral mongers are there?! Let me turn your morals around on you and ask you this; Is it moral for you to question my rights to the first amendment? Our target audience is 20 and older. The most saltry language we use on that site is a word for human feces. Being 20 years old myself, I think I say that word quite frequently. Not because I have a bad vocabulary but, because of frustration or the power of the word to make a point. Vulgarity can be used, not only for the sole purpose of bringing across a point but, also to bring strength to the message. If you don't like the language, press the little X at the top of the window. We simply told you to check it out, not to like it.

"PS FWIW, based on what i saw of that site, it doesn't seem too active. I see it dying a slow death, from lack of support."

In response to this quote, the minute we posted this post was the minute the site went first online. Also, in response to NN4RH, Who the hell are you to make any judgments?! You used google to find that?! Wow your talented. I could force something up the ranks on google with your callsign too. It isn't that hard :-)

Next time you geriatrics want to deify something with good intentions, don't choose anything that I make. Again, I say theres a reason why young hams like me do not come on the QRZ forums. I hope your moral commentary has made your existance justified.

And guess what, your comments have contributed to our publicity stunt. Nice Job and Thanks for all your support!

[k2nrc]

just keep the free advertising going guys. why don't we all put his website address in our signatures now? that way we can continue the free advertising into other areas of qrz, where people wouldn't otherwise see this....because they are smart enough to stay away from this type of poopoo.:p

[kb4mbu]

First off was the vulgar language. As a responsible adult I never use this type of language in a public open forum. I know that this is the internet and these things are widely accepted, however, not by all....and not by me. I often promote the hobby of amateur radio, especially to young people who I would never subject them to the type of language which appeared on your website.

Do you really want to promote the hobby of amateur radio?

This hobby we share is made up of all types of people with all kinds of backgrounds. What may be acceptable to one person may be totally unacceptable to another. You need to keep this in mind if you truly want to promote the hobby in a positive light.

You may say that you are targeting 20 to 30 year olds, however, keep in mind that there are many younger (10 - 16 year olds) that are introduced to the hobby everyday. As I've stated earlier in one of my replies that I applaud your efforts in promoting the hobby. I just think that you are going about it the wrong way. Again, as I've stated above, my thinking is obviously different that your thinking.

Best,
Brian

Thank you for applauding but understand the mid set of most 20 year olds, they are in that cool factor so if the ham community is still being stale and boring they get bored quickly.

Let me give an example on July 4th I went to a gathering of friends all hams and I saw a long time ham friend, I ask him "What's up? you haven't been on the radio" he said, "well, I got bored it's the same stuff but I stil got my rigs. but remember how cool it was on CB back in the days?" I then told him about my repeater and we all are there shooting the breeze and guess what! he's back having fun. People understand, that these 20 to 30 crowd are into other stuff to have fun and if WE don't show the fun in ham radio we will lose them almost as soon they get their ticket

[ky5u]

I would first like to start off by saying I am part of this group. I am a 20 year old ham that got his licence when he was 12 years old.
Thank you,
Christian Jensen
KG4SYV
So you're saying that to attract younger amateurs we need to be vulgar, crass, immature and impolite? You may be correct about older hams having issues but you ain't fixing nothing by bringing people who need to cuss to feel like a real man in. How immature is that?

[KG4SYV]

Never said that now did I? Let me disect my argument for you. I degraded the used of the word I used and then I stated further that sometimes vulgarity is needed to bring forth the message in a more powerful manner. I am sorry I cannot spoon feed it anymore. Don't insult my integrity with your maturity comments because its somewhat hypocritical when your flaming on a public fourm and contributing to the publicity stunt of a 20 year old.

Let me also bring to the world the website that you created which has also some disagreeable content in the form of a picture.

http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&subpageid=291947&ck=

[k8wpj]

"PS FWIW, based on what i saw of that site, it doesn't seem too active. I see it dying a slow death, from lack of support."

In response to this quote, the minute we posted this post was the minute the site went first online.

And guess what, your comments have contributed to our publicity stunt. Nice Job and Thanks for all your support!

Oh really?

Care to share with us exactly how many hits you've gotten because today's youth found out about your site on the 'Zed'?

C'mon, enlighten me.... Exactly how many hits have you gotten that came from referrals from the 'Zed...

If the majority of the members on 'QRZ were as elderly and out of touch as you claim, then why bother promoting a 'youth' oriented site in here to start with?

Wouldn't you rather spend time on sites that were 'youth' oriented themselves?

Your logic seems a bit flawed...

[kb4mbu]

So you're saying that to attract younger amateurs we need to be vulgar, crass, immature and impolite? You may be correct about older hams having issues but you ain't fixing nothing by bringing people who need to cuss to feel like a real man in. How immature is that?


First off! did any of you read the part on the site the says "only because you can cuss on the repeater doesn't meaning to can have fun"

[KG4SYV]

If you knew anything about PR at all, any publicity is good publicity. The fact that Company A may have had some mishaps with dissatified customers and it shows up on TV does not mean that some customers have not been reminded of the fact of its existence and will not buy from the company. If you look up our website on google, you can see that there are 10 pages of QRZ content.
Stop pulling at straws..

Over 1000 views in fact. The fact is that at 6 am today, this site went up and by the end of the day and 10 pages of nonsense later, we more than 1000 hits. The attacks on lack of content are unfounded. The point of this site was to make it as Web 2.0 as possible. Social interaction in the news, forums and in contest. You can even post your schmatics and what not on there.

[kb4mbu]

Oh really?

Care to share with us exactly how many hits you've gotten because today's youth found out about your site on the 'Zed'?

C'mon, enlighten me.... Exactly how many hits have you gotten that came from referrals from the 'Zed...

If the majority of the members on 'QRZ were as elderly and out of touch as you claim, then why bother promoting a 'youth' oriented site in here to start with?

Wouldn't you rather spend time on sites that were 'youth' oriented themselves?

Your logic seems a bit flawed...

But do know how many operator came by our link to talk and had a great time and said keep it up! BTW do want a screen shot of the echolink log?

[NN4RH]

Also, in response to NN4RH, Who the hell are you to make any judgments?! You used google to find that?! Wow your talented. I could force something up the ranks on google with your callsign too. It isn't that hard

Go for it. I'll tell you right now, though, that you're not going to find any confederate flags, "ghetto" references, vulgarity, etc. Look me up under my real name while you're at it.

If you have to rely on vulgarity to "make points" and "strengthen your message" then there's something wrong with your communications skills and your credibility. If people respect you, then you don't have to cuss to get their attention.

[k8wpj]

First off! did any of you read the part on the site the says "only because you can cuss on the repeater doesn't meaning to can have fun"

That's not the best use of english so he probably didn't understand what you meant...

I didn't understand it the first time I read it either...

[KG4SYV]

Where was a confederate flag on the website? and since when has "####" debased society? From this argument, clearly I don't think you have a leg to stand on. If a 20 year old actor with "artistic licence" can say #### on tv, so can I! And I certainly seem to bring across my point pretty well without cursing. All I was saying is that it should not be excluded totally in an adult setting (target audience = 20 and older)
And Im sure you also checked your name and callsign before you posted this right? Get a life dude. Please.

this is the true quote "Just because you cannot curse on the repeater, does not mean that talking on a repeater needs to be a serious affair."

OMG... he misspelled the quote. Call the presses!

[k8wpj]

If you knew anything about PR at all, any publicity is good publicity.

Oh yeah,

Enron had some of the best PR men on the job, and where are they now...

Hillary Clinton paid the spin doctors millions to get her words out to the voters, and look what it got her...

All it takes is one wrong turn and your entire image is wasted.


Over 1000 views in fact. The fact is that at 6 am today, this site went up and by the end of the day and 10 pages of nonsense later, we more than 1000 hits.

You got 1000 extra hits because of the thread on QRZ???

I'd love to find out more about how you determined that.

[KG4SYV]

Well.. this is the only place we put it and its the first day of the site. Lets do the math here. 0+1000 = 1000. Good job buddy :-) The American Political system isn't a good example since the Smear machines are hard at work. Enron employees also commited a felony and had to close up shop. Have we been told to close up shop?

[KD6NIG]

Cool. Maybe you can make this thread last another week. Once it gets off the front page, you'll probably not find too many hits anymore.

Sell your advertising now while you can.

[k8wpj]

Well.. this is the only place we put it and its the first day of the site. Lets do the math here. 0+1000 = 1000. Good job buddy :-) The American Political system isn't a good example since the Smear machines are hard at work. Enron employees also commited a felony and had to close up shop. Have we been told to close up shop?

Well, let me put it to you this way...

I've been on the CB since 1973,

A licenced amateur since '95, and a professional broadcast announcer since high school, and never once during that time, have I ever receved any attention from the FCC for anything beyond a licence renewal or update.

I'd like to think my credibility is stronger because of it.

Also, you may have had a 1000 hits in a specific amount of time... That's fine...

That's also not what I was disputing.

What i was saying to you was this-

I don't doubt your traffic, Heck, my site can do that much.

I was merely doubting that every single one of those 1000 hits was from someone tuning because of THIS thread... And so far, nothing you've said disputes that.

[ai4ep]

It would be just terrible ( just terrible ) if a great thread like this one would get knocked off the front page by ( gasp ) a " cb thread " , or a " how to build a dipole " thread.

Stay tuned, only time will tell.

Every one take the week off and come back next Sunday evening and see where this thread is .......you might be surprised.

[KB3QLK]

You notice how he walks around the FCC violation topic?
Maybe the FCC gave him a visit because it was his birthday.:rolleyes:
Well, let me put it to you this way......never once during that time, have I ever receved any attention from the FCC ....

[ab8ro]

I saw one "swear" word on the website. You can find more vulgarity on MTV, Spike, or even through the "live microphone" aired through a NFL broadcast - certainly enough on the Zed....


Not the point.


I don't see any racist symbolism on the website. If you're talking about one person's avatar, you're entering into a political discussion where some connote racism with a certain avatar; others will argue that the symbol is nothing more than pride in one's freedom; others still will argue that the current flag that flies over buildings such as the White House, the Capitol and Arlington National Cemetary is inherently racist given the treatment accorded those who were actually here prior to the arrival of northern europeans in the 17th and 18th centuries.


Sure, people can argue all that they want. Try flying that flag at work in 9 land. I suspect more than one person will complain. The same arguments can be made for the swastika, but I doubt that would garner much sympathy either.


As to gross violations of FCC rules, the willingness to associate with one who has been cited for a prior infraction is a choice for each licensed ham.


No argument. I could care less. My point was that none of those things are necessary to cut against the died in the wool grain, not that people should or shouldn't associate with the guy.


There are a large number of licensees who have had notices issued, but continue to operate. Indeed, in the 1940s, 1950s, and 1960s countless well known DXers received warning notices and citations for running California kilowatts. Undoubtedly, they have continued to be welcome within the amateur fraternity, no?

Running several thousand times the allowed power in the FM broadcast band is blatantly illegal. It's not pushing the envelope, it's not misadjusting the kit, it's a conscious choice to violate the law. I would tell any of those california killowatt hams the exact same thing if they started preaching to others about rules. If the OP can't justify his NOUO then he has no right to start talking about alleged activities of other hams.

Why? Was it a political protest against the overly restrictive FM broadcast allocations? I certainly support the expansion of part-15 allocations as well as citizen broadcasting through legal means. I also empathize with the rights of groups who choose to violate the law, but, as a ham I feel obligated to neither participate nor condone such illegal behavior.

The reason I even had anything to say about it, however, is that the OP is trying to equate it to joe-ham clipping some diodes.

But, if you want to be a radio freedom rebel then you really don't belong on ham radio. If that's not what you are doing, and you're just blasting 100 watts of crap out of your back yard because you want to, well, then you still don't belong in ham radio. I don't care if you don't agree. That's how I feel about it. The guy was caught blatantly violating broadcast rules and now he's popping off about how great he is for ham radio. Is it COOL for ham radio to attract the attention of "the man?" I don't think so.

Ham radio is conservative. It could use with a kick in the pants now and then, but if you want to kick hard, then maybe ham radio isn't for you. 54k+microvolts/meter two blocks from your house is kicking hard. Turn in your license and live your dream.

[KG4SYV]

Not to split threads here but, if this is the only place where it is publicized, i would say it would have a major influence. The fact is that my friend mauricio's history isn't in question here, the website is.

[kb4mbu]

You notice how he walks around the FCC violation topic?
Maybe the FCC gave him a visit because it was his birthday.:rolleyes:


I don't around it!!! it happened and all they said was "turn it off" and that was it. buddy this Miami and there are more FM pirates here than you can count. Plus they did not give a visit it was on the phone and he askd me nicely to turn it off.

[n5vag]

First off was the vulgar language. As a responsible adult I never use this type of language in a public open forum. I know that this is the internet and these things are widely accepted, however, not by all....and not by me. I often promote the hobby of amateur radio, especially to young people who I would never subject them to the type of language which appeared on your website.

well if they get offended then either they cant take need to lighten up or either step out of the shack once in awhile and get off of QRZ or maybe in effect they do need to change the depends and colostomy bag and fix their own coffee instead of the XYL fixin it and certainly we dont want them on out repeater if they get offended by our humor.

whatever the case may be thats on you but hey this is AMERICA right?

[kb4mbu]

Not the point.



Sure, people can argue all that they want. Try flying that flag at work in 9 land. I suspect more than one person will complain. The same arguments can be made for the swastika, but I doubt that would garner much sympathy either.



No argument. I could care less. My point was that none of those things are necessary to cut against the died in the wool grain, not that people should or shouldn't associate with the guy.



Running several thousand times the allowed power in the FM broadcast band is blatantly illegal. It's not pushing the envelope, it's not misadjusting the kit, it's a conscious choice to violate the law. I would tell any of those california killowatt hams the exact same thing if they started preaching to others about rules. If the OP can't justify his NOUO then he has no right to start talking about alleged activities of other hams.

Why? Was it a political protest against the overly restrictive FM broadcast allocations? I certainly support the expansion of part-15 allocations as well as citizen broadcasting through legal means. I also empathize with the rights of groups who choose to violate the law, but, as a ham I feel obligated to neither participate nor condone such illegal behavior.

The reason I even had anything to say about it, however, is that the OP is trying to equate it to joe-ham clipping some diodes.

But, if you want to be a radio freedom rebel then you really don't belong on ham radio. If that's not what you are doing, and you're just blasting 100 watts of crap out of your back yard because you want to, well, then you still don't belong in ham radio. I don't care if you don't agree. That's how I feel about it. The guy was caught blatantly violating broadcast rules and now he's popping off about how great he is for ham radio. Is it COOL for ham radio to attract the attention of "the man?" I don't think so.

Ham radio is conservative. It could use with a kick in the pants now and then, but if you want to kick hard, then maybe ham radio isn't for you. 54k+microvolts/meter two blocks from your house is kicking hard. Turn in your license and live your dream.

Pirate radio isn't the question here but if you need to know I WAS RUNNING 500WATTS TPO IN FOUR CIRCULAR DIPOLES!!!!!!

Buddy you don't now me to judge me!!!!! and you know what? the fcc sees us idiots pirates with a license. people like you make us lose our spectrum, stop hate'n and start helping the hobby.

[kd8hho]

500 watts TPO
4 bay circular antenna system
basicly running aprx 1KW ERP pirate FM station...

sad. thats all i can say is sad

[KC7YRA]

The fact is that my friend mauricio's history isn't in question here, the website is.

I agree. The goal was to get the website out and about. But you truly have to look at a few things here.

1. You berate "old men". I know the conversations on air are VERY annoying and the physical fitness of most hams is below par. However that is the way it has been for a LONG time. You cannot just come in here and blow these people away. They are going to fight back and fight hard. Your friends past is a black spot indeed. Which leads me to my second point,

2. I see that your post count is still single digits. It leads me to believe that you have not been "current" on the QRZ happenings. If you have or had been current (whichever the case may be) you would know (or already do) that anything that stinks like a pirate is going to walk the plank around here. This is a documented legal infraction in the radio world. I don't have one (NAL), and any member of your group coming in here and accusing me of somehow breaking the law myself or condoning the illegal use of gear is galling to me. It really gives your group a black eye.

3. Your groups spelling, grammar, and general use of the English language is poor at best. I wont go into details ( mine is not the best but at least it's readable) but suffice it to say, It is VERY hard to read. Chalk that up with your initial responses and your group starts to look like a bunch of uneducated young ins.


I understand what you are doing. I am in my early 20s and have made it through one renewal session. I really do like your enthusiasm. I have argued some of the same arguments here on the Zed myself. I truly get nauseated at some of what I hear in the ham radio world. HOWEVER, I try to respect what I hear and understand that THIS is the status quo. If I want to have fun then GREAT. I will go my separate ways and do my thing (which I often do). If I want to call the hobby old and hack on crusty old men, Then I do it. I have many times. Just look at some of my previous threads. But when I do start hacking, I expect there to be an attack back. I know that people google my name and I know that people dig into my past. "Alls fair in love and war". You cannot expect to be able to post a link to a site like that and have it go over well.

That is all I've got. Keep doing what your doing. If thats your thing then great. But understand that QRZ is many peoples thing (and has been for some time) and don't get defensive when your take on the current state of Ham radio is not accepted so well. Especially by people that have been in the hobby for decades.

Brad


P.S. Ghetto may work for you and hams in your area but I am a country boy. Ghetto is from the outside and I don't like the outside. Ghetto evokes visions of crack dealers and pimps which makes me grab for my guns in self defense. I would personally respond to bull plop radio or something like that. :p

What I'm trying to say is, if you are attempting to reach out to younger hams, then maybe you should use something a little more neutral than "GHETTO"

[kb3laz]

Do these pirates wear eye patches, and or have peg legs?:p
What about parrots?
I have a parrot but Im not a pirate, lol!:p

[wb5ydk]

maybe you should use something a little more neutral than "GHETTO"How about The Ham 'Hood? :D

[kd8hho]

Do these pirates wear eye patches, and or have peg legs?:p
What about parrots?
I have a parrot but Im not a pirate, lol!:p

get yourself a fm transmitter and a 4 bay circular polarized antenna system and start a pirate FM station..
eye patches/parrots/peg legs are optional
:P

[kb3laz]

get yourself a fm transmitter and a 4 bay circular polarized antenna system and start a pirate FM station..
eye patches/parrots/peg legs are optional
:P

Only if I can play pirate music like that one that goes yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.:D

Arrr

[KC7YRA]

How about The Ham 'Hood? :D

Nah, Makes me think of hitting a wild pig and having it land on my poor truck. I can relate to it better I guess.

Brad

[kd8hho]

Only if I can play pirate music like that one that goes yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.:D

Arrr

make shure you make references to walking the plank many times a hour

[KC4RAN]

I don't around it!!! it happened and all they said was "turn it off" and that was it. buddy this Miami and there are more FM pirates here than you can count. Plus they did not give a visit it was on the phone and he askd me nicely to turn it off.

Wow, they got you so worked up you can't even type straight. Dropping whole words from the middle of sentences, capitalization, punctuation.... wow.

The point is, the FCC took action against you, and was prepared to take further action. The phone call was a courtesy. I wonder if the incident ever made it into the real paperwork and was assigned a case number. If it did, perhaps someone should forward that to ex-Riley's office for them to 'reconsider' your eligibility for a license.

As for "hate'n", it looks like all your website is full of is "hate'n", and every post you make seems to be laced with the same "hate'n" of a certain type of ham. Don't like them? There's a big knob on the front of the radio... spin it if you don't like what you hear. Record it and write the FCC if you think it's against the rules.

I'm sure you're familiar with that process, albeit from the other end.

.

[kd8hho]

never heard of the fcc giving phone calls...

man are they getting lazy

[ab8ro]

Pirate radio isn't the question here but if you need to know I WAS RUNNING 500WATTS TPO IN FOUR CIRCULAR DIPOLES!!!!!!


Guess what, this is talk and opinions, and my opinion is that your past pirate activity is relevant to how I perceive you and your siite


Buddy you don't now me to judge me!!!!!


That's what sucks about those first impressions huh, you get judged anyway? You should get out of ham radio if you want to push the pirate agenda.


and you know what? the fcc sees us idiots pirates with a license. people like you make us lose our spectrum, stop hate'n and start helping the hobby.


I have nothing to do with "losing spectrum." Do you really think that blasting 500 watts of crap out of your back yard makes a difference? Especially when your rolled over when the fcc called. "Ok sir, we'll turn it off." You knew what you were doing and you don't have the guts to press your cause because the fact is, it isn't your cause. Your rebel flag is fake, you are fake, and your pirate radio station was just something else fun to do. The community broadcasting cause is legitimate but incompatible with ham radio.

Pirates don't turn their message off when the fcc calls. They press their right to broadcast and there is a long history of people trying to change the way broadcasting is done in the United States. Are you fighting the FCC?

Am I wrong? Are you fighting the pirate cause and the community broadcasting agenda? Then why would you ask the government for a ham license?

[KA3JLW]

...hard to call some group " losers " when most of the new car manufacturing plants are located in those USA states.

Toyota, Honda, Volkswagen, and numerous others are locating or have located in that " loser " land of the south.


Should I elaborate some more with the simple facts, as of the current time and century ?
The reason those companies are there is simple math and economics. The plants are placed precisely where the labor is cheap, plentiful, somewhat close to the buyers and where they can get the sweetest deal from the local politicians.

The biggest concentration of buyers is where the wealth is - places like NJ and NYC. But there's no chance of putting an economically feasible car plant in NJ or NYC, the people there have other opportunities and so will demand a higher wage. So the plant goes to places where that isn't true.

The car 'cycles' have gotten shorter and shorter, meaning that plants and even companies come and go. You only have to look to Detroit to see what that cycle can do to a place. I suppose in places like Kentucky there wasn't much to lose anyway, and some decent incomes, if only for 15 years, is better than nothing.

So I don't see car factories moving in as evidence of an area's relative strength or as a source of much pride.

[KC9JUM]

get yourself a fm transmitter and a 4 bay circular polarized antenna system and start a pirate FM station..
eye patches/parrots/peg legs are optional
:P

LOL, Pirate FM Radio.... boy there is at least something illegal that has gone the way of the dodo bird..... when anyone can broadcast themselves over the internet on shoutcast or the like.

[ab8ro]

LOL, Pirate FM Radio.... boy there is at least something illegal that has gone the way of the dodo bird..... when anyone can broadcast themselves over the internet on shoutcast or the like.

Apparently not. The FCC does quite a bit of business in shutting down FM pirates and there is a plethora of illegal transmitters still available on ebay. These are clearly intended for non-commercial use.

http://cgi.ebay.com/120-Watt-PLL-FM-Broadcast-Transmitter-87-5-108-Mhz_W0QQitemZ370064649114QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item3 70064649114&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-17W-STEREO-FM-TRANSMITTER-Antenna-Power-Supply_W0QQitemZ180262234045QQcmdZViewItem?hash=it em180262234045&_trksid=p3286.m14.l1318

[n5vag]

tell yall what why dont yall quit cryin and check us out for yourselves? that might assist yall in deciding who and what we are feel free yall got the info

[N8CPA]

Only if I can play pirate music like that one that goes yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.:D

Arrr

Nah. Too Disney World. True pirate radio is about Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of booty.

[NI3B]

Your the same kind of person who blamed columbine on Marilyn Manson. Give me a break. How many of moral mongers are there?! Let me turn your morals around on you and ask you this; Is it moral for you to question my rights to the first amendment? Our target audience is 20 and older. The most saltry language we use on that site is a word for human feces. Being 20 years old myself, I think I say that word quite frequently. Not because I have a bad vocabulary but, because of frustration or the power of the word to make a point. Vulgarity can be used, not only for the sole purpose of bringing across a point but, also to bring strength to the message. If you don't like the language, press the little X at the top of the window. We simply told you to check it out, not to like it.

"PS FWIW, based on what i saw of that site, it doesn't seem too active. I see it dying a slow death, from lack of support."

In response to this quote, the minute we posted this post was the minute the site went first online. Also, in response to NN4RH, Who the hell are you to make any judgments?! You used google to find that?! Wow your talented. I could force something up the ranks on google with your callsign too. It isn't that hard :-)

Next time you geriatrics want to deify something with good intentions, don't choose anything that I make. Again, I say theres a reason why young hams like me do not come on the QRZ forums. I hope your moral commentary has made your existance justified.

And guess what, your comments have contributed to our publicity stunt. Nice Job and Thanks for all your support!

No point discussing it any farther as you've proved that you are not capable of understanding.

This thread and this "club" is not amateur radio. No need for additional comments..... by me anyway. Good luck. I hope you find some peace in your bitter world.

[KB3QLK]

With all this "y'all" and "hate'in" talk one might think these guys are a cross of the movies Deliverance and Malibu's Most wanted.
Oh and about the international DJ .....yeah right
:p

[KC9JIQ]

KG4SYV, FOLLOW THE PENGUIN, FOLLOW THE PENGUIN!!!! lol

This thread and this "club" is not amateur radio.

That's RIGHT, if your club does not bow to the ARRL, and does not promote emergency communications, and boring "check in" nets, it's not real ham radio!!

Somehow I FAIL to see why it is perfectly fine to have this stuff on the HF bands, but don't you DARE bring it to the VHF side. Like that is all you hear on two meters, check in nets, weather nets and anything to do with emcom.

KG4SYV, I am all for fun in ham radio, as long as the rules are loosely followed, you will not have any problems. Hope you suceed in your endeavors, keep out of the broadcast bands! Florida is not the place to do that at!

[KC9JUM]

Apparently not. The FCC does quite a bit of business in shutting down FM pirates and there is a plethora of illegal transmitters still available on ebay. These are clearly intended for non-commercial use.


Kind of silly in my opinion...... ROFL, why broadcast to whomever is 6 miles away when you could broadcast to the world.

[ab8ro]

Kind of silly in my opinion...... ROFL, why broadcast to whomever is 6 miles away when you could broadcast to the world.

Ok, well, here, I'll make a bit of the "pirate case." Your message might not have relevance to the whole world. It may only be important for your very local community, and moreover, your community may want to hear and participate in your message. This was what LPFM was supposed to be about but it's really really difficult to get an LPFM license. There may also be many people in your community who don't have computers, let alone the internet.

So, local low power broadcasting is interesting to quite a few people and many would like to see the FCC either extend part-15 to be useful or make it easier for almost anyone to get very low power licenses.

Of course, this isn't happening, and isn't likely to happen unless we get about six feet of snow here in the central valley sometime next month.

So, people choose to become pirates to broadcast their message. Some folks have been trying to seriously fight for the right to freely broadcast for years.

But, the reality is that most people who buy such transmitters can't be satisfied with low power or really don't have a message or the participation of their community. It's just entertainment.

I have a part 15 transmitter in my house. Mine is compliant as far as I know and I have no personal interest in "community broadcasting." I just can't stand broadcast FM and I prefer to wake up to the drone zone (http://www.somafm.com/).I've gone out of my way to try to make sure that I'm not sharing with my neighbors and I don't get much past the sidewalk in front of my house.

[NN4RH]

tell yall what why dont yall quit cryin and check us out for yourselves? that might assist yall in deciding who and what we are feel free yall got the info

No thanks. Not interested. You've already made it quite clear "who and what" you are.

"yall"

[KG4SYV]

No thanks. Not interested. You've already made it quite clear "who and what" you are.

"yall"

Well your just a bag of joy, ain't ya? Damn, all i have to do is say a word pertaining to fecal matter and he is panties are all in a bunch. I hope your life isn't ruled by this same demeanor because if it is, you must be a very angry old man. I have no idea what your age is but, you seem to be old and I am going to go with that.
Thank you for your kind words and I will finally stop posting on here to defend what needs defending no more.

Kindest Regards,
Christian Jensen
KG4SYV

[NN4RH]

Well your just a bag of joy, ain't ya? Damn, all i have to do is say a word pertaining to fecal matter and he is panties are all in a bunch. I hope your life isn't ruled by this same demeanor because if it is, you must be a very angry old man. I have no idea what your age is but, you seem to be old and I am going to go with that.
Thank you for your kind words and I will finally stop posting on here to defend what needs defending no more.

It is your choice to stop defending the indefensible. Smart choice.

At least you're somewhat more literate than your buddies. I bet you even have a real job and don't even live with your momma.

[kc9mav]

Young hams 20-30s?

Hmm,

I must be a baby ham I am 12.

Know listen I found this website a complete waste of time for me to even look. I think if you didn't swear or any other obscene crap you would have a lot of followers and isn't ham radio about no obscene stuff. I mean you go to 14.275 and hear Mr. Madera saying Americans are just a bunch of @@@@tards. But you spin the VFO just a bit up to 14.280 and you here some guys just casually talking about there day.

80m is partly worthless everything 3.800-4 is junk.

Other than that ham radio is a welcoming hobby. I know you have set an age group so I can not join due to the fact that I am 8 years to young I would enjoy having another dipole.

If you say you do not generate QRM that is great but I mean there are a lot of wierd ham websites like qrzed.com The local clubs are trying not to say qrzed,com to the new hams who come into this hobby because I mean this website is god awful. There is no activity on it but man:;)

73:D
KC9MAV

[NN3W]

The reason those companies are there is simple math and economics. The plants are placed precisely where the labor is cheap, plentiful, somewhat close to the buyers and where they can get the sweetest deal from the local politicians.

You're also forgetting sources of supply and cost of land. As to supply, there is little to NO flat rolled sheet steel being produced in the Northeast United States anymore. The USW basically saw to that. Sparrow's Point is as far north as you get, and that is arguably mid atlantic. No, the major sheet producers are located in South Carolina, Kentucky, and Alabama. Incidentally, thats where the major auto producers are now located (at least those that are making money).

As to land, its simply not easy to find a greenfields site in New York or New Jersey. Resurrecting old sites costs substantial sums of money and risks substantial uncertain contingent liability.

The biggest concentration of buyers is where the wealth is - places like NJ and NYC. But there's no chance of putting an economically feasible car plant in NJ or NYC, the people there have other opportunities and so will demand a higher wage. So the plant goes to places where that isn't true.

Thats a rather broad stroke. Populationwise, yes the the New York area is one of the the largest MSAs in the nation, but it is certainly not the only one. Houston, Atlanta, and Dallas are wealthy areas now, and the automakers are not beholden to the New York metro area. In today's market, with the cost of fuel and transport, being closer to local metro areas is as much of a concern as the base population.

And as noted earlier, labor is not the sole issue. Land costs are a major acquisition expense, and there simply is not that much pristine land left in New York in which to locate a mill.

[N2RJ]

Finally, a club that makes ham radio fun for the younger hams. Come visit the Ghetto Radio Club website. We are based out of Miami Florida and invite you to come use our website and post on our forums. Register to the website and enter our contest for a free all-band dipole. Lets make ham radio fun for everyone!

Thanks,
KB4MBU

www.ghettoradioclub.com

YO

Is this some kind of a joke ma n***a?

[N2RJ]

Thats a rather broad stroke. Populationwise, yes the the New York area is one of the the largest MSAs in the nation, but it is certainly not the only one. Houston, Atlanta, and Dallas are wealthy areas now, and the automakers are not beholden to the New York metro area. In today's market, with the cost of fuel and transport, being closer to local metro areas is as much of a concern as the base population.

And as noted earlier, labor is not the sole issue. Land costs are a major acquisition expense, and there simply is not that much pristine land left in New York in which to locate a mill.

Cost of transport isn't as big an issue as you think. Cars these days are transported via rail, which I have heard isn't all that expensive. Then locally they are trucked, but most of the journey is via rail.

[kb4mbu]

With all this "y'all" and "hate'in" talk one might think these guys are a cross of the movies Deliverance and Malibu's Most wanted.
Oh and about the international DJ .....yeah right
:p

About your comment on international Dj "yes I am" I have play at Space miami, Privilage in Ibiza, club Prince in Italy exc..... but I don't go by my name! and everybody knows in the local ham community I'm a Dj. I have played with ferry corsten, Orly Aycart, Paul van Dyke, pete tong and among others.

[k8wpj]

Wow, they got you so worked up you can't even type straight. Dropping whole words from the middle of sentences, capitalization, punctuation.... wow.

The point is, the FCC took action against you, and was prepared to take further action. The phone call was a courtesy. I wonder if the incident ever made it into the real paperwork and was assigned a case number. If it did, perhaps someone should forward that to ex-Riley's office for them to 'reconsider' your eligibility for a license.

As for "hate'n", it looks like all your website is full of is "hate'n", and every post you make seems to be laced with the same "hate'n" of a certain type of ham. Don't like them? There's a big knob on the front of the radio... spin it if you don't like what you hear. Record it and write the FCC if you think it's against the rules.

I'm sure you're familiar with that process, albeit from the other end.

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ROFL

Now that's funny, Yall

Yall's needs youse own TV show...

I've had enough of Ya'alls fussin'...

Caint y'alls jest git along?

Man, 4 landers is the funniest peoples, 'Y'all'...

Any time you feel up to it, you bring your Rolling 'ghetto' radio show up to a fine city in '8' land, like Detroit, or Cleveland, and be sure to fly your cornfederated flag and talk crap about other hams...

One bit of advice though, you better key softly and run like the wind, or they'll find what's left of you stuffed in a dumpster somewhere.

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....does he have any OTHER alternatives in regard to him expressing his true feelings ?

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ROFL

Now that's funny, Yall

Yall's needs youse own TV show...

I've had enough of Ya'alls fussin'...

Caint y'alls jest git along?

Man, 4 landers is the funniest peoples, 'Y'all'...

Any time you feel up to it, you bring your Rolling 'ghetto' radio show up to a fine city in '8' land, like Detroit, or Cleveland, and be sure to fly your cornfederated flag and talk crap about other hams...

One bit of advice though, you better key softly and run like the wind, or they'll find what's left of you stuffed in a dumpster somewhere.


the last comment Is that a threat???? "8" land hahahaha you really haven't been to Miami haven't you? The people here just don't care and are out for themselves.

Detroit, I know the city well. and actually some nice people not like rude ones here in Miami.

But you know what I like about Miami? It's the fact that the cuban here left a country where they couldn't speak out but they are decent enough that if they don't like something you said, did or showed they just don't bash you they respect your opinons and walk BUT insult them directly and you'll be in a heep of trouble cause they don't take lightly to being offended directly.

I have read in plenty forums thing I don't agree with, "and guess what" I just change to the next thread. I don't sit and bash them. I know plenty of people are GAY and from different religons, cultures and backrounds I might and might not agree with all their views but guess w