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The Double Talk Express is moving full speed ahead! Flipper strikes again! McBush vs. McBush: When you win, you lose. Just what we need another old dude with alzheimers and a finger on the red button.
http://bravenewfilms.org/blog/468-the-real-mccain
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k7van
06-30-2008, 12:00 AM
Ya know, one (of the many things) I was wondering about Grandpa John, was why the phonychristianright (PCR) is so willing to support an adulterer? I thought the PCR were generally against that sorta thing, at least in public.
de K7VV
w2amr
06-30-2008, 09:52 AM
http://politickernj.com/files/images/McCain_torture.img_assist_custom.JPG
W3MIV
06-30-2008, 10:31 AM
http://politickernj.com/files/images/McCain_torture.img_assist_custom.JPG
Not very original. Seems the cartoonist is desperate for something to punch and is pummeling McCain with Kerry's support for Bush's war. Wasn't that his line?
What goes around comes around, I guess.
w2amr
06-30-2008, 10:35 AM
Not very original. Seems the cartoonist is desperate for something to punch and is pummeling McCain with Kerry's support for Bush's war. Wasn't that his line?
What goes around comes around, I guess.
The point is, McCain has switched positions on so many issues, it's hard to tell what he stands for. Straight talk express indeed. :rolleyes:
W3MIV
06-30-2008, 10:56 AM
The point is, McCain has switched positions on so many issues, it's hard to tell what he stands for. Straight talk express indeed. :rolleyes:
Can you name any other politician who has been in office for as long as McCain who has NOT flip-flopped on a wide range of issues? It is part and parcel of the type of person who is driven to seek power. The same could be said of either Clinton, or of Romney, or of any other man or woman who has held office for any length of time. They ALL say what they believe the public wants to hear at any given slice of time.
The only thing limiting Obama's current flip-flop totals is the shortness of his service.
Don't vote for McCain. But this continuing mission to trot out naive notions and dribble them around the hall as though they were big issues and will change any minds is the mark of a rube who just got off the bus.
w2amr
06-30-2008, 09:07 PM
Can you name any other politician who has been in office for as long as McCain who has NOT flip-flopped on a wide range of issues? It is part and parcel of the type of person who is driven to seek power. The same could be said of either Clinton, or of Romney, or of any other man or woman who has held office for any length of time. They ALL say what they believe the public wants to hear at any given slice of time.
The only thing limiting Obama's current flip-flop totals is the shortness of his service.
Don't vote for McCain. But this continuing mission to trot out naive notions and dribble them around the hall as though they were big issues and will change any minds is the mark of a rube who just got off the bus.
A- I don't consider myself a Rube.
B-I haven't been on a bus in 40 years.
C- I have never even heard of a horse/horses named Naive notions.
D-I can't even dribble a basketball let alone a full size horse.
E- If I could figure out how to do it, I would at least have the Courtesy to do it outside
k7van
06-30-2008, 09:28 PM
Under what circumstances would it be permissible for a political candidate to change position on an issue?
de K7VV
K4GUN
06-30-2008, 09:48 PM
A- I don't consider myself a Rube.
Most rubes don't. ;)
W8NSI
06-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Ya know, one (of the many things) I was wondering about Grandpa John, was why the phonychristianright (PCR) is so willing to support an adulterer? I thought the PCR were generally against that sorta thing, at least in public.
de K7VV
You used the correct label for 'em: phonychristianright (PCR)
He has already disassociated himself from the true Christian Right so all he has are the pretenders, his McCain Democrats, moderates, and other undecideds that helped him in the primaries. Conservatives are running away from him.
His chief of staff, Rick Davis, draws a paycheck (annual consulting fee $110,000) from McCain's Reform Institute (which is funded by George Soros' OSI Institute and Teresa Heinz-Kerry's Tides Foundation). :eek:
McCain is reforming the Republican Party into The Republican Neo-Democrat Party (RND)
K4GUN
06-30-2008, 09:53 PM
On the question of flip-flopping, there are times when one would be an idiot NOT to change positions. Take for instance off-shore drilling. When McCain was against it, oil was at $30 per barrel. At the time, McCain looked at the risks and benefits and decided to oppose more drilling.
Now that oil is over $140 per barrel, the risk/reward figure has changed just a tad. A smart person will look at new information and new realities and make an informed decision. That decision might change due to the new circumstances. That's not a flip flop. That's reacting to new realities. Obama seems incapable of this.
w2amr
06-30-2008, 09:54 PM
Most rubes don't. ;)
Ok, maybe I'm a semi rube.
K4GUN
06-30-2008, 09:55 PM
Ok, maybe I'm a semi rube.
LOL... glad to see somebody isn't taking themselves too seriously.
W8NSI
06-30-2008, 09:58 PM
The only thing limiting Obama's current flip-flop totals is the shortness of his service.
...and the fact that he has done nothing of note while in the US Senate.
While in the Illinois legislature his most notable accomplishments were his votes of "Present" on over 70% of issues to cross before him. Looks like preparation for federal service. No track record to follow back to.
Hmmm... he does have a 100% NARAL rating. I guess that counts for something. No flips or flops there. :rolleyes:
Most rubes don't. ;)
Takes one to know one.;)
w2amr
06-30-2008, 10:45 PM
Hell, I even learned some readin' and writin' in grammar school. It was tough though. Since we didn't have paper and pencils, we had to write in the dirt with sticks.