Jindal condemns Supreme Court, signs castration bill

[W5GA]

Anyone want to bet whether or not this gets thrown out by SCOTUS too?

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=68042

[N2RJ]

Glad to see a politician with some courage to do the right thing for a change.

America needs more leaders like Bobby Jindal.

[k2kli]

Now if it were "castration and left to slowly bleed to death" I'd be really happy about that legislation. A child molester doesn't deserve to live, whether he is able to keep his 'goods' or not. But I guess we have to start somewhere.

[K0RGR]

Chemical castration has failed to do the job too many times. This is more show than substance.

[K5FH]

Glad to see a politician with some courage to do the right thing for a change.

America needs more leaders like Bobby Jindal.

Yep. The Supreme Court will probably end up ruling that this is "cruel and unusual punishment" or something similar, but the point is made. The well-documented recidivism rate for child molesters is virtually 100%. Since the death penalty is now off the table there are essentially two choices left: lock them up for life without possibility of parole, or chemical castration.

As RGR mentioned, the chemical approach doesn't have too good of a track record. This leaves lifetime incarceration as the only reliable option.

If "life without parole" actually meant what it says I might be in favor of it. But far too many times it doesn't, especially with courts starting to get squeamish about allowing "cruel and unusual punishments." Or, it would seem, ANY punshment at all in certain instances.

[N4VGB]

Chemical castration has failed to do the job too many times. This is more show than substance.

I fail to see how castration could "fail to do the job"!? :confused:

It is only offered under voluntary terms and would seem to end all sexual desires? :confused:

[W5GA]

Chemical castration has failed to do the job too many times. This is more show than substance.

BUT, the law signed allows the judge to order physical castration too!

[K5FH]

BUT, the law signed allows the judge to order physical castration too!

No doubt the Federal courts will find that option to be "cruel and unusual punishment" and strike down that part of the law if, and when, it is challenged. Jindal and the Louisiana legislature, I'm sure, know this. This law appears to be intended to make a statement and to serve as a way of symbolically flipping off the Supreme Court for its prohibition of the death penalty for child molesters.

[ab1ga]

I fail to see how castration could "fail to do the job"!? :confused:

It is only offered under voluntary terms and would seem to end all sexual desires? :confused:

The reason castration, physical or chemical, is a less than adequate solution to the problem is that the motivation is not purely sexual, but violent. Castration only intensifies the rage, and repeat offense is common.

The web site of author and child protection advocate Andrew Vachss addresses castration and other forms of punisment; judging from the darkness of his novels, he seems to have witnessed more than a man should have to.

http://www.vachss.com/

[N4VGB]

The reason castration, physical or chemical, is a less than adequate solution to the problem is that the motivation is not purely sexual, but violent. Castration only intensifies the rage, and repeat offense is common.


Hmmmm, guess that's a little too deep for my shallow mind?:o

Maybe I should just be happy that sex and violence don't overlap in my mind?;)

[n2ize]

Glad to see a politician with some courage to do the right thing for a change.

America needs more leaders like Bobby Jindal.

I think the USA is going to take over the world. Namely the rest of the world is going to die laughing at us. :D:D:D

[n2ize]

The reason castration, physical or chemical, is a less than adequate solution to the problem is that the motivation is not purely sexual, but violent. Castration only intensifies the rage, and repeat offense is common.

The web site of author and child protection advocate Andrew Vachss addresses castration and other forms of punisment; judging from the darkness of his novels, he seems to have witnessed more than a man should have to.

http://www.vachss.com/

What we need to do is hold public testicular detonations. :D:D

[ab1ga]

Hmmmm, guess that's a little too deep for my shallow mind?:o

Maybe I should just be happy that sex and violence don't overlap in my mind?;)

Indeed! If you should ever start thinking like a sexual predator who's enraged at the world because you had to forfeit your family jewels to John Law, seek help immediately!

:D

[kb3laz]

Hmmmm, guess that's a little too deep for my shallow mind?:o

Maybe I should just be happy that sex and violence don't overlap in my mind?;)

Ah now theres nothing wrong with sex and violence, as long as both parties are adults and its consensual. S&M is rather common in this day and age.
I actually like a little blood in the bedroom, as long as it is coming from my neck.:eek: As you can tell Im a submissive ie.. a masochist.:D

As for the original post there are many people that need castrated in the world.
So lets get on the ball.:eek:

[N4VGB]

Ah now theres nothing wrong with sex and violence, as long as both parties are adults and its consensual. S&M is rather common in this day and age.
I actually like a little blood in the bedroom, as long as it is coming from my neck.:eek: As you can tell Im a submissive ie.. a masochist.:D

As for the original post there are many people that need castrated in the world.
So lets get on the ball.:eek:

One of those personal matters that I sincerely wish you had left a personal matter! :eek::eek::eek:

[kb3laz]

One of those personal matters that I sincerely wish you had left a personal matter! :eek::eek::eek:

Oh trust me I was vague. You have obviously never seen my post explaining my taste in women.:D Nails that come to a point, implanted fangs, piercings, and tattoos. Personal would have been if I had told you about the scars I have.:D

[k2kli]

Ah now theres nothing wrong with sex and violence, as long as both parties are adults and its consensual. S&M is rather common in this day and age.
I actually like a little blood in the bedroom, as long as it is coming from my neck.:eek: As you can tell Im a submissive ie.. a masochist.:D

Owww! No thanks, but I don't mind a bit of soft rope or padded handcuffs myself. :p

As for the original post there are many people that need castrated in the world.
So lets get on the ball.:eek:

I like my idea. Cut them off and leave them to bleed to death. That solves everything. I'm really not pro-death penalty, but in the case of a rapist or child molester, I'm willing to give a little.

[KD4LEI]

via public stoning's, hand chop-off's and beheading's every Friday in each town and city. :D

Their Friday's are much like our Sunday's here. I know they did a lot of them when I was in Riyadh in 97 and 98.

[kf6rdn]

Give 'em to the starving fat people in Japan.
:p :eek:

Adult consensual sexual violence.. yes been there.. Fun with right person..

But yeah probably also can be too much info.

[KI4PEQ]

What we need to do is hold public testicular detonations. :D:D

Effective, but messy.:D

[NL7W]

Hmmmm, guess that's a little too deep for my shallow mind?:o

Maybe I should just be happy that sex and violence don't overlap in my mind?;)

I truly believe rape and molestation has everything to do with violence and domination, and very little to do with sexual urges whatsoever. I find it the most egregious act, besides murder, one can commit against another. Although, some medieval torture acts rank right up there, like the bed of nails and the rack.

[G4ALA]

I am quite bewildered by what I read here.

I thought it was only extreme fundamentalist Muslims who chopped off bits of people.

I can now see that extreme fundamentalist Louisianians are very similar.

From a transatlantic perspective, it all seems very barbaric

73

G4ALA

[n2ize]

I am quite bewildered by what I read here.

I thought it was only extreme fundamentalist Muslims who chopped off bits of people.

I can now see that extreme fundamentalist Louisianians are very similar.

From a transatlantic perspective, it all seems very barbaric

73

G4ALA

The neokons are getting there. :D

[N4VGB]

From a transatlantic perspective, it all seems very barbaric


From a transatlantic perspective, fools who pay more tax per gallon on gasoline than for the product seem irrelevant in any discussion by a more democratically minded populace. :p

Remember that we are the sorts that your Royalty and Lords wished to rid themselves of anyway, easing their total domination of the remaining populace in Merry Old England. :p

[G4ALA]

Dear N4VGB,

Please do not call names.

Our fuel price is only twice yours. A lot of the price is, indeed, tax.

Britain has changed very much since "Merrie England". It is now very much part of the European Union (EU)

Even to be part of the EU the death penalty in your individual county must have been abolished. Though not in the EU, even Russia has abolished the death penalty.

A review of cases from the days when GB had the death penalty found that around half (yes, half) of those executed were wrongfully convicted. What proportion of individuals executed in the USA are wrongfully convicted? Far better not to execute. Death is final.

The EU has an extensive Human Right directive which is compulsory legislation for each member country. I think judicial castration would be deemed a clear infringement of human rights. Far better not to amputate. Amputation is also final.

The UK is no longer "Merrie England" but is part of a larger and, I hope, more enlightened whole, of some 350 million people.

By the way, I am not English. I am a Scotsman, being, three generations back, part Irish and part Prussian. Scotsmen were never part of "Merrie England"

73

John
G4ALA

[ac4ut]

I fail to see how castration could "fail to do the job"!? :confused:

It is only offered under voluntary terms and would seem to end all sexual desires? :confused:

Or they could just get married. That usually ends the desire for most.:D

[N4VGB]

Britain has changed very much since "Merrie England". It is now very much part of the European Union (EU)
A review of cases from the days when GB had the death penalty found that around half (yes, half) of those executed were wrongfully convicted. What proportion of individuals executed in the USA are wrongfully convicted? Far better not to execute. Death is final.
The UK is no longer "Merrie England" but is part of a larger and, I hope, more enlightened whole, of some 350 million people.
By the way, I am not English. I am a Scotsman, being, three generations back, part Irish and part Prussian. Scotsmen were never part of "Merrie England"


Irish and Scots, what pesky little critters to the Brits, you should be ashamed. And now I see those pesky Irish voting for the Lisbon Treaty and allowing their citizens to defeat it! Who do they think they are anyway!

I don't believe England ever had in place all the many appeals and reviews that take place in the U.S. system before a death penalty is carried out. It is a many year process here.

If "enlightened" equates to taxed to death and totally controlled by an "upper class", then I hope we stay unenlightened until I pass from this earth. Perhaps you have confused the idea of having your pockets "lightened" with being "enlightened"? :)

We are a radical bunch in the U.S., gee some of us "commoners" even own what would be considered "land estates" in England! :eek: