View Full Version : Lifting sanctions on North Korea? What about Cuba?
Bush administration to lift sanctions on North Korea (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371927,00.html)
Hopefully this will mean P5 will be reactivated? Sure hope so.
But why can't we lift the sanctions on Cuba?
N5NPO
06-26-2008, 12:32 PM
Bush administration to lift sanctions on North Korea (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371927,00.html)
Hopefully this will mean P5 will be reactivated? Sure hope so.
But why can't we lift the sanctions on Cuba?
I am for lifting sanctions on CUBA... However, JFK's ghost and a lot of Cubans living in the US of A wouldn't like that...
What!
And have all that American $$ going to the island resort of Cuba like it was in 40s and 50s and not being able to tax it? :rolleyes:
Don't be silly.:D
wa8rti
06-26-2008, 03:58 PM
Nixon opened the doors to trade with China; we had trade with countries of the Soviet block and yet the ban on Cuba remained. Why? Because of the votes of Cuban immigrants who would not support any politician that supported opening the doors to Cuban trade. There never has been any real reason other than the political expediency of getting Cuban-American votes!
n2ize
06-26-2008, 04:21 PM
What!
And have all that American $$ going to the island resort of Cuba like it was in 40s and 50s and not being able to tax it? :rolleyes:
Don't be silly.:D
Not to mention all the hookers and drugs. :D:D
I am for lifting sanctions on CUBA... However, JFK's ghost and a lot of Cubans living in the US of A wouldn't like that...
I'm also for lifting sanctions on Cuba, time to get a new start.
As for the Cubans lving in the US, piss on them. The good folks who have made a home here will not have any issue with this. As for the rest, I met about 10,000 of these folks when I was in Panama and all I can say is it's a damn shame some of those boats the select few were on didn't sink.
The only hope to defuse the possibility of future conflicts in South America (likely over Oil) is to make peace with old adversaries in North America
Hell with Obama, how about that change.............
n2ize
06-26-2008, 04:34 PM
Cuba is an enemy nation that is eager to subvert the United States and make us into a communist nation. They work directly with Satan
If the sanctions were good enough for Jesse Helms then they're good enough for America.
Bush administration to lift sanctions on North Korea (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371927,00.html)
Hopefully this will mean P5 will be reactivated? Sure hope so.
But why can't we lift the sanctions on Cuba?
We should do this...today. The sanctions in place are stupid and have been for years.
I honestly think it has more to do with Guantanamo Bay.
K4GUN
06-26-2008, 05:31 PM
Bush administration to lift sanctions on North Korea (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371927,00.html)
Hopefully this will mean P5 will be reactivated? Sure hope so.
But why can't we lift the sanctions on Cuba?
What does the reactivation of P5 have to do with US sanctions?
I honestly think it has more to do with Guantanamo Bay.
Can you expand that thought a bit? We'd still have it under lease, so I'm not getting the connection.
It's a theory I've had.
Since we basically have no relations with Cuba, and have active sanctions against them, Git'mo is basically a detention camp on enemy soil.
The question I have to ask is - why aren't we detaining Al-Qaeda prisoners in Germany or Japan?
w5klb
06-26-2008, 06:09 PM
Cuba is an enemy nation that is eager to subvert the United States and make us into a communist nation. They work directly with Satan
(The Democrats want) an enemy nation that is eager to subvert the United States make us into a communist (or a fundamentalist Islamic) nation. They work directly with (Fidel Castro and Usama bin Laden).
At lest the above rewrite is more accurate. ;)
K4GUN
06-26-2008, 06:32 PM
I'll ask again, what did the sanctions have to do with ham radio operations in North Korea?
Just remember, Germany and Japan were the bad boys at one point and they have come back to rule a large portion of the world and the money to go with it.
I'll ask again, what did the sanctions have to do with ham radio operations in North Korea?
Not the sanctions, but the fact that NK is destroying its nuclear facilities, which may pave the way for more freedom in NK which may mean ham radio could be allowed in the future.
And just maybe we can bring our troops home from that still at war status that we have there. :rolleyes:
And just maybe we can bring our troops home from that still at war status that we have there. :rolleyes:
Not likely. We still have troops in Germany and Japan.
K4GUN
06-26-2008, 06:44 PM
Not the sanctions, but the fact that NK is destroying its nuclear facilities, which may pave the way for more freedom in NK which may mean ham radio could be allowed in the future.
Hmmm... so you're suggesting that the government of NK is demonstrating that they are becoming more open and that they could extend this to its own citizens. I am quite skeptical of that idea, but it would be nice. That regime borders upon extreme paranoia and they don't want their people to have any hint of what the rest of the world is about. I don't see any connection to their concessions on the nuke issue.
Not likely. We still have troops in Germany and Japan.
But there function is much different than those on the line with N. Korea.
Further there are a lot fewer of them than there used to be in the cold war days.
I know, I was there watching the East German Borders with surface to air Hawk missiles waiting for the commies to make a move.
Most of the areas we had in Germany are now controlled and owned by Germany again and our troop strengths are down a bunch from what they were.
The only problems we had as troops in Germany was occasionally you would run into someone that still believed the Nazi ideal and they still hated us, but that was few and far between.
It's a theory I've had.
Since we basically have no relations with Cuba, and have active sanctions against them, Git'mo is basically a detention camp on enemy soil.
The question I have to ask is - why aren't we detaining Al-Qaeda prisoners in Germany or Japan?
Possibly due to the Status of Forces agreements with those countries.
That, and a desire to stick a finger in Castro's ear.
Not likely. We still have troops in Germany and Japan.
Completely different situations. Technically, the U.N. police action in Korea has never ended. Our troops are there under U.N. auspices.
N4VGB
06-26-2008, 10:48 PM
Not the sanctions, but the fact that NK is destroying its nuclear facilities, which may pave the way for more freedom in NK which may mean ham radio could be allowed in the future.
Ryan, you're apparently not familiar with Kim Il-sung (father) and Kim Jong-il (son).
A state of war still exists between North and South Korea, it will never end as long as Kim Jong-il is alive. North Korea is not a communist nation at all, it is a pure dictatorship. North Koreans flee to China for a better life!
P5 will not be heard in our lifetimes.
N7RJD
06-27-2008, 04:49 AM
Not to mention all the hookers and drugs. :D:D
Hookers? Drugs? No taxes?
I forget, are we talking about Cuba or Heaven? :D:D
N4VGB
06-27-2008, 05:13 AM
Hookers? Drugs? No taxes?
I forget, are we talking about Cuba or Heaven? :D:D
Safe hookers also! ;)
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