View Full Version : Cigarette Taxes Fund Terrorism!!!
KG4JYD
06-06-2008, 12:12 AM
"While it's politically popular to impose confiscatory taxes on America's 40 million tobacco smokers, there are a number of consequences one might consider, but let's start out with a quiz. If a carton of cigarettes sells for $160 in New York City, and $35 in North Carolina, what do you predict will happen? If you answered tons of cigarettes will be going up I-95 from North Carolina to New York City, go to the head of the class. ....
"Who is most likely to engage in cigarette smuggling? It's a mixed answer, but for the most part, organized smugglers will be people with a high disregard for the law. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has found that Russian, Armenian, Ukrainian, Chinese, Taiwanese, and Middle Eastern (mainly Pakistani, Lebanese, and Syrian) organized crime groups are highly involved in the trafficking of contraband and counterfeit cigarettes. What's worse is the ATF found that some of these groups use the money to provide material financial assistance to terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas."
Source:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/08/Cigarette%20Smuggling.htm
N4VGB
06-06-2008, 12:32 AM
Tax tobacco out of business, tax alcohol out of business, tax fast food out of existence, we'll all be happy and healthy Americans then!!! :)
n2ize
06-06-2008, 03:57 AM
"While it's politically popular to impose confiscatory taxes on America's 40 million tobacco smokers, there are a number of consequences one might consider, but let's start out with a quiz. If a carton of cigarettes sells for $160 in New York City, and $35 in North Carolina, what do you predict will happen? If you answered tons of cigarettes will be going up I-95 from North Carolina to New York City, go to the head of the class. ....
"Who is most likely to engage in cigarette smuggling? It's a mixed answer, but for the most part, organized smugglers will be people with a high disregard for the law. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has found that Russian, Armenian, Ukrainian, Chinese, Taiwanese, and Middle Eastern (mainly Pakistani, Lebanese, and Syrian) organized crime groups are highly involved in the trafficking of contraband and counterfeit cigarettes. What's worse is the ATF found that some of these groups use the money to provide material financial assistance to terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas."
Source:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/08/Cigarette%20Smuggling.htm
That's the same thing that the DEA was trying to claim regarding the money acquired through illegal drug sales was going. Yet they provided scant, if any, evidence to back their dubious claims.
And, if indeed it is true then its all the more reason to end the stupid worthless and wasteful drug prohibition and to stop imposing ridiculous taxes on cigarettes under the guise that it's intent and purpose is to encourage people to stop smoking.
kb3laz
06-06-2008, 05:06 AM
Tax tobacco out of business, tax alcohol out of business, tax fast food out of existence, we'll all be happy and healthy Americans then!!! :)
At that point I hope they pass out free bullets, so I can end my miserable existence.
kb3laz
06-06-2008, 05:09 AM
"While it's politically popular to impose confiscatory taxes on America's 40 million tobacco smokers, there are a number of consequences one might consider, but let's start out with a quiz. If a carton of cigarettes sells for $160 in New York City, and $35 in North Carolina, what do you predict will happen? If you answered tons of cigarettes will be going up I-95 from North Carolina to New York City, go to the head of the class. ....
"Who is most likely to engage in cigarette smuggling? It's a mixed answer, but for the most part, organized smugglers will be people with a high disregard for the law. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has found that Russian, Armenian, Ukrainian, Chinese, Taiwanese, and Middle Eastern (mainly Pakistani, Lebanese, and Syrian) organized crime groups are highly involved in the trafficking of contraband and counterfeit cigarettes. What's worse is the ATF found that some of these groups use the money to provide material financial assistance to terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas."
Source:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/08/Cigarette%20Smuggling.htm
Hum so what does that mean when I buy reservation cigg's when I go up and gamble in NY?:D
KC9IUX
06-06-2008, 06:30 AM
It means you need to save on smokes after giving the casino your money. :D
All taxes ARE a form of terrorism :)
KG4JYD
06-06-2008, 05:28 PM
All taxes ARE a form of terrorism :)Good point :D
kc9jwa
06-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Yeah theres always a crime somewhere i aint shocked this country keeps goin to he**, i live by a tobacco store this pakistan is a great guy but of course hes greedy and god knows what he is using the money for.:eek: This all could stop including alot of crimes IF THE GOVERMENT WILL QUIT LETTING ILLEGALS IN AND MAKIN IT THIER ADDICTION TO COME HERE, but no it wont stop so i guess we all suffer and just praise the goverment:rolleyes: No not me i tell him to bite me and well i like to say alot but i dont need men in black coming to my door and invading the rest of my privacy , how much is left i dont want to think about it.:mad::eek:
kf6rdn
06-07-2008, 12:01 AM
All taxes ARE a form of terrorism :)
Worse, it's social control through taxation.
It should be illegal. (Kinda thoght it was actually)
N9MOQ
06-07-2008, 12:50 AM
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Interesting, but if no one buys the cigarettes, then the terrorists can't make any money off of this. Is the point here that smokers are aiding the terrorists?
Smokers could put a stop to this funding of terrorists, simply by refusing to purchase any more cigarettes. :)
How about not enacting ridiculous taxes on tobacco and then this concern would be non-existent.
Reminds me of the "drug money supports terror" crap. The illegality of "controlled substances" is the reason it is so profitable in the first place.
Alcohol bootlegging was tremendously profitable during prohibition. Financed lots of other shady ventures.
Make something people want illegal or too expensive and the crooks will be there to exploit it.
People who enact high tobacco taxes support terrorism. :)
W8NSI
06-07-2008, 04:32 AM
"While it's politically popular to impose confiscatory taxes on America's 40 million tobacco smokers, there are a number of consequences one might consider, but let's start out with a quiz. If a carton of cigarettes sells for $160 in New York City, and $35 in North Carolina, what do you predict will happen? If you answered tons of cigarettes will be going up I-95 from North Carolina to New York City, go to the head of the class. ....
"Who is most likely to engage in cigarette smuggling? It's a mixed answer, but for the most part, organized smugglers will be people with a high disregard for the law. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) has found that Russian, Armenian, Ukrainian, Chinese, Taiwanese, and Middle Eastern (mainly Pakistani, Lebanese, and Syrian) organized crime groups are highly involved in the trafficking of contraband and counterfeit cigarettes. What's worse is the ATF found that some of these groups use the money to provide material financial assistance to terrorist groups such as Hezbollah and Hamas."
Source:
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/articles/08/Cigarette%20Smuggling.htm
What do they put in those counterfeit cigarettes? :eek:
I bet the smugglers wil be hauling bootleg smokes too. :D
The revenuers are going to be busy.