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n2ize
05-28-2008, 11:59 PM
More quality support for our troops from Kellogg, Brown and Root

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/05/28/soldier.electrocutions/index.html

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 12:25 AM
I'd shower outside with a garden hose before trusting the plumbing and wiring in an Iraqi built building.

I know John, it's all the fault of the U.S. government for not replumbing and rewiring the whole of Iraq. :rolleyes:

Believe it or not, more U.S. citizens died from the same causes and in the same time period, right here in the USA. :eek:

W1GUH
05-29-2008, 12:29 AM
And for some historical perspective, it was KBR that supported LBJ all the way from Congressional Secretary to President.

n2ize
05-29-2008, 03:15 AM
And for some historical perspective, it was KBR that supported LBJ all the way from Congressional Secretary to President.

And has been a major contractor / player with this administration. The real catch is that KBR was well aware of the serious wiring faults yet did nothing and apparently nobody saw to it that the faults were corrected.

The reaklly sad part of this is that nobody will be held responsible. Somebody really needs to go to jail for this kind of garbage once and for all.

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 03:23 AM
Funny how John boy doesn't get indignant in his own beloved NYC? :confused:

http://www.pulp.tc/html/dog-walking_new_yorkers_fear_e.html

Electrocutions seem to be rampant in NYC, or so a Google search would indicate? :rolleyes:

W4DFW
05-29-2008, 03:37 AM
Funny how John boy doesn't get indignant in his own beloved NYC? :confused:

http://www.pulp.tc/html/dog-walking_new_yorkers_fear_e.html

Electrocutions seem to be rampant in NYC, or so a Google search would indicate? :rolleyes:

Now you don't REALLY think a lib'rul lune from NYC would bring this up when one can bash BUSH over Iraq, now do 'ya??

BTW, ain't Hillary a Senator or something from up there?? I forget . . . .

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 03:45 AM
Now you don't REALLY think a lib'rul lune from NYC would bring this up when one can bash BUSH over Iraq, now do 'ya??

BTW, ain't Hillary a Senator or something from up there?? I forget . . . .

Electrocution only counts when he can twist it as the fault of Bush. The fact that more people died of electrocution in NYC during the period of the Iraq war escapes him as relevant!? :rolleyes:

If he finds out how many soldiers died in Iraq of more or less industrial accidents, he'll flip! Insist Bush should have had OSHA there! :rolleyes:

Maybe NYC traffic cops should have been sent to Iraq also? A bunch of soldiers there have died of traffic accidents! :rolleyes:

w2amr
05-29-2008, 08:43 AM
Funny how John boy doesn't get indignant in his own beloved NYC? :confused:

http://www.pulp.tc/html/dog-walking_new_yorkers_fear_e.html

Electrocutions seem to be rampant in NYC, or so a Google search would indicate? :rolleyes:
WTF does that have to do with john's post?

w2amr
05-29-2008, 08:46 AM
Now you don't REALLY think a lib'rul lune from NYC would bring this up when one can bash BUSH over Iraq, now do 'ya??

BTW, ain't Hillary a Senator or something from up there?? I forget . . . .
Bash bush, Hillary senator, Neo-con bob and weave. nice. Not a word about the content of the article. Typical

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 07:02 PM
WTF does that have to do with john's post?

DUH! Let me explain it very clearly for your slow self, more people die of accidental electrocution in the U.S. than in Iraq. In fact the very first casualty of U.S. forces in Iraq was an "industrial accident" that happened unloading supplies.

John's post was a very dumb one indeed, you'd think Mr. Academia could do much better!?

Now I posted a link to a poor lady that stepped on a Con Ed sidewalk grate and was electrocuted while walking her dog in NYC. Now who did you left wingers have arrested in NYC over that one? The mayor of NYC? President of Con Ed? Who will be prosecuted for her death? Yeah, just as I thought. :rolleyes:

N2RJ
05-29-2008, 07:11 PM
Funny how John boy doesn't get indignant in his own beloved NYC? :confused:

http://www.pulp.tc/html/dog-walking_new_yorkers_fear_e.html

Electrocutions seem to be rampant in NYC, or so a Google search would indicate? :rolleyes:

Well at least we're not stupid like this guy trying to rescue a parrot. (http://www.topix.com/forum/source/asheville-citizen-times/T4NKRIA3D307NQMP0)

Is it something in the water down south, Jethro?

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 07:43 PM
Well at least we're not stupid like this guy trying to rescue a parrot. (http://www.topix.com/forum/source/asheville-citizen-times/T4NKRIA3D307NQMP0)

Is it something in the water down south, Jethro?

Some people love their animals a bit too much! :D

You've got plenty of the same types in NYC & NJ. They are among us. :D

KV1M
05-29-2008, 07:57 PM
Notice the Neoturd brigade decides that this is no big deal and uses it as an opportunity to attempt to redirect any rage to Hillary/LBJ/anybody but the problem.:rolleyes:

Stick to the issue losers: KBR (subsidiary of Cheney's beloved Halliburton) is poisoning, electrocuting, starving and otherwise doing as little as possible for the troops as they can get away with and still get paid their mind numbingly high no bid contract fees for.

That this does not alarm or dismay you is no surprise and a clear indicator of your "love" of your country and it's military personnel.

You don't love your country, you love your party. And the Dick and Bush are it's leaders. Again, not surprising.

n2ize
05-29-2008, 08:13 PM
Bash bush, Hillary senator, Neo-con bob and weave. nice. Not a word about the content of the article. Typical

It's interesting to see how far some people will go to try and stir a reaction and cry for attention so as to compensate for their hapless sense of insecurity. As if arguing that Con Ed's negligence excuses KBR and the military's in similar negligence. In reality both should be held liable and neither event excuses the other. In any event enough about trivial buffonery.

The key point in the article was the fact that KBR was aware of numerous electrical hazards. Human awareness prevailed yet nothing was done and a brave young lad who beleived he was doing his duty for his country has died, not in battle, but due to pure human neglect. Something that could have been prevented but was not. Now a young man is dead over an event that in all probability could have been prevented.

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 08:13 PM
You don't love your country, you love your party. And the Dick and Bush are it's leaders. Again, not surprising.


Todd, you're so fixated on Bush that you can't see the forest for the trees. :p

John Boy's post was pure 'spin city' and you know it. :p

KV1M
05-29-2008, 08:16 PM
Todd, you're so fixated on Bush that you can't see the forest for the trees. :p

John Boy's post was pure 'spin city' and you know it. :p

So, you really don't pay attention to the piss poor services being provided with your substantial tax input do you? Again, I am not surprised.:rolleyes:

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 08:20 PM
It's interesting to see how far some people will go to try and stir a reaction so as to compensate for their hapless sense of insecurity.


Yes it is very interesting to me. Your original post in this thread was a pure pile of poo-poo and a high school educated TN boy shot it down thoroughly. How about that! That must indeed rattle your "hapless sense of insecurity". :)

KV1M
05-29-2008, 08:23 PM
I wouldn't call "Hey! Look over there!" shooting anything down.:rolleyes:

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 08:26 PM
So, you really don't pay attention to the piss poor services being provided with your substantial tax input do you? Again, I am not surprised.:rolleyes:

Try to concentrate Todd. KBR had written the facility up as being improperly wired and plumbed. I have no idea who let the troops use the place instead of living in tents, but I'm sure troops prefer one of Saddam's presidential compounds to tent life. :rolleyes:

Since this took place in one of Saddam's compounds, it's a real shame it didn't happen while Saddam himself was in that shower. ;)

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 08:29 PM
I wouldn't call "Hey! Look over there!" shooting anything down.:rolleyes:

Yes, oh great 'spin doctor', I know. Truth is to be ignored in all matters. Undeniable bottom line is that more people got electrocuted in NYC alone from Con Ed UH-OHs during the same time period troops have been in Iraq. :rolleyes:

KV1M
05-29-2008, 09:15 PM
Yes, oh great 'spin doctor', I know. Truth is to be ignored in all matters. Undeniable bottom line is that more people got electrocuted in NYC alone from Con Ed UH-OHs during the same time period troops have been in Iraq. :rolleyes:

Yes yes, the rotten food, poisoned water, unsanitary facilities along with the electrocutions are nothing to worry about! Just ignore it, after all it's worse somewhere else right? And it's only money!

Hey! Look over there!:rolleyes:

N4VGB
05-29-2008, 09:33 PM
Yes yes, the rotten food, poisoned water, unsanitary facilities along with the electrocutions are nothing to worry about! Just ignore it, after all it's worse somewhere else right? And it's only money!
Hey! Look over there!:rolleyes:


I don't know where you get your information? I personally like talking to guys returning from Iraq and Afghanistan for my number one source of info. None of your perceived problems have been echoed from them? You keep listening to the press and I'll keep listening to guys that are 'boots on the ground'. :cool:

NL7W
05-30-2008, 09:24 AM
In a quite similar fashion, I once received an electrical shock from a USAF dining hall stainless steel serving line cart -- by sliding my tray across the metal tray rails with bare hands -- while serving in Italy in the 80's. I had to report this to base safety before someone would investigate. In the end, improper grounding and exposed wiring were found in the cart. Personally, I'm surprised nobody was hurt or killed.

These things happen... Combat is not the only thing killing our men and women serving in overseas areas. Servicemens' slips, trips, falls, and generally unsafe practices are to blame for many deaths. Our young (inexperienced in many ways) men and women are constantly reminded, through safety meetings and the like, to be safe. Our Armed Services are really doing the best they can to ensure unnecessary injuries and deaths are avoided.

For example: The USAF's "101 Days of Summer" Memorial Day through Labor Day Safety Campaign has begun. Those who have served in recent years knows all about this campaign and the safety briefings given weekly during this period, and throughout the year.

Actually, I cannot think of another government agency or private company that devotes such safety efforts to protect their people -- I've been around.

73.

N9XR
05-30-2008, 01:58 PM
Easy to see here how liberals are concerned with the safety and well being of the soldiers, and how conservatives align themselves with the terrorists.

N4VGB
05-30-2008, 04:45 PM
Easy to see here how liberals are concerned with the safety and well being of the soldiers, and how conservatives align themselves with the terrorists.

Thanks, big laugh on that one! :D:D:D

Your party now harrasses uniformed military personnel, while my party gives them a round of applause at every opportunity. :cool:

N9XR
05-30-2008, 04:48 PM
Yeah. The applause is simply electrifying.

The right wingers always applaud the dead. They wait to applaud for the live ones to die, and then they applaud for them. The ones that won't die, Limbaugh calls "phony soldiers".

K0RGR
05-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Stuff happens... this was really sad stuff.

I see one of two scenarios, both of which probably happened.

1. KBR or another contractor was paid $1million to build the building. They, turned around and outsourced the work to an Iraqi firm, who was paid $10,000 to do the job. Their electrician never showed up for work, so it was done by Ahmed, the gardener, instead.

2. KBR did the inspections, found life-threatening deficiencies, and filed the information in the round file, because there was no immediate opportunity to turn the situation into something profitable.

Technically, KBR is not at fault, unless they did the installation and failed to fix the deficiencies when discovered.

N4VGB
05-30-2008, 05:28 PM
Yeah. The applause is simply electrifying.

The right wingers always applaud the dead. They wait to applaud for the live ones to die, and then they applaud for them. The ones that won't die, Limbaugh calls "phony soldiers".

You need to switch brands of booze, whatever you're drinking ain't helping. :p