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KG4JYD
05-28-2008, 12:56 AM
"Ars is running a brief article that looks at stances from Chuck Fish of McCain's campaign and Daniel Weitzner from Obama's (http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080527-mccain-and-obama-tech-policy-at-cfp.html) in regards to technical issues that may cause geeks to vote one way or the other. From openness vs. bandwidth (http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/07/02/10/2220235.shtml?tid=225) in the net neutrality (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/05/30/1826253.shtml?tid=215) issue to those pesky National Security Letters (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/05/16/2125236.shtml?tid=95), there's some key differences that just might play a part in the vote. You may also remember the discussions on who is best (http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/08/02/04/1423257.shtml?tid=225) for geeks (http://politics.slashdot.org/politics/08/02/04/1421245.shtml?tid=224)."

N4VGB
05-28-2008, 01:52 AM
So nobody really ever explained to you or the geeks that this is a capitalist economic system and it really doesn't matter what a President thinks about any of the internet issues? :)

n7wr
05-28-2008, 03:03 AM
VGB
Unless of course Gore would have been elected since, as he was quick to tell us, he invented the internet. Come to think of it he must be a real scientist as he has invented: global warming as the biggest scam/rip off since the founding of our nation which has been responsible for: rising fuel costs; the BS of biofuels; rising food costs etc etc. And all three of the current Presidential candidates have bought into the Gore myths...shame

N4VGB
05-28-2008, 03:30 AM
Come to think of it he must be a real scientist


Al a scientist!? Don't make me laugh. I'd have to do some research to verify, but I don't think Al holds any college degrees, except honorary ones. Journalist, preacher, lawyer, failed at all three. More or less a career student, somehow provided on scholarships mostly!? So I guess Al decided that politics was his only way left to make a living? All that is needed for some politicians is a talent for lying and Al has that one!! Perfect salesman. ;)

Poor Al, came back to TN and had his people canvas the whole state looking for an area dumb enough for him to be elected as anything there, none were found. So he laid low for a while and reinvented himself as an ecological expert. So Al invested his personal money in many upstart enviromental companies and started his campaign to make his investments pay handsomely. It's worked like a charm! Al is raking in millions! ;)

k9kxq
05-28-2008, 04:30 AM
VGB
Unless of course Gore would have been elected since, as he was quick to tell us, he invented the internet. Come to think of it he must be a real scientist as he has invented: global warming as the biggest scam/rip off since the founding of our nation which has been responsible for: rising fuel costs; the BS of biofuels; rising food costs etc etc. And all three of the current Presidential candidates have bought into the Gore myths...shame

Sorry OM, you are wrong about Al Gore saying he invented the Internet but you knew that already didn't you, typical and so predictable from the party of dupe...

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

kxq

wa6ccw
05-28-2008, 05:19 AM
Sorry OM, you are wrong about Al Gore saying he invented the Internet but you knew that already didn't you, typical and so predictable from the party of dupe...

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."

Ok.... fair enough.

So replace the word "invented" with the word "created".

Just as self-serving, outlandish, and outright false.

Only a "dupe" would think otherwise, or attempt to defend Gore - or give him any kind of a pass at all - for the use of a word that is equally disingenuous.

k4kyv
05-28-2008, 06:45 AM
Unless of course Gore would have been elected since, as he was quick to tell us, he invented the internet.

You need to take a reality check.

That story has been debunked so many times that it is getting to be as worn out as it is silly. Al Gore no more claimed to have invented the internet than Dwight Eisenhower claimed to have created the interstate highway system.

Gore, while serving in Congress and Eisenhower, while serving as President, using political leverage that comes with the respective office, took the initiative to foster the development of his pet project, for Gore the internet and for Ike the interstate highway system.

Gore even coined a phrase "information superhighway" to describe the internet before most Americans knew what it was.



http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp


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n2ize
05-28-2008, 10:43 AM
VGB
Unless of course Gore would have been elected since, as he was quick to tell us, he invented the internet. Come to think of it he must be a real scientist as he has invented: global warming as the biggest scam/rip off since the founding of our nation which has been responsible for: rising fuel costs; the BS of biofuels; rising food costs etc etc. And all three of the current Presidential candidates have bought into the Gore myths...shame

Al Goreinvented neither the Internet nor Global Warming. Global Warming was the work of scientific research and first started appearing in scientific journals long before Al Gore had ever heard of it.

N9MOQ
05-28-2008, 12:56 PM
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N2RJ
05-28-2008, 01:15 PM
So nobody really ever explained to you or the geeks that this is a capitalist economic system and it really doesn't matter what a President thinks about any of the internet issues? :)

Only a complete idiot would think that the Government doesn't have a hand in tech issues, especially where the FCC and the collection of taxes for goods and services transacted over the internet are involved.

And like a moth to a flame, Jethro, you totally exemplified this. :)

kn4ng
05-28-2008, 02:42 PM
Neither of them know anything about any technical issues. They wouldn't know how to hook up their own stereo systems, or a DVD player to a TV set, they pay people to do that for them.

But it would be nice to have someone as President that actually does know something about technical issues, just because it would show they are not complete airbags, and have some brains and thinking ability.

He was educated in the Plains public schools, attended Georgia Southwestern College and the Georgia Institute of Technology, and received a B.S. degree from the United States Naval Academy in 1946. In the Navy he became a submariner, serving in both the Atlantic and Pacific fleets and rising to the rank of lieutenant. Chosen by Admiral Hyman Rickover for the nuclear submarine program, he was assigned to Schenectady, N.Y., where he took graduate work at Union College in reactor technology and nuclear physics, and served as senior officer of the pre-commissioning crew of the Seawolf.

N9MOQ
05-28-2008, 02:48 PM
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kn4ng
05-28-2008, 03:21 PM
This means nothing. A friend of mine got a degree in Electronics and now works for the FAA, yet guess who he called to come over and hook up his stereo for him? Me.

I stand by my bet that neither of the candidates could hook up their own stereo systems or connect a DVD player to a TV set.

I don't think this particular politician would have much trouble with simple home electronic hook ups. Of course, this past president is routinely demonized by the right leaning apologists for the present dweller of the White House.

He builds houses for the homeless with Habitat for Humanity (he has an article about he got involved with Habitat on their site now), he set up the Carter Center to work on projects like eradicating the Guinea worm disease, he works to promote free elections around the world. He is a busy guy.
Well, it turns out that when it comes to woodworking he is not just a dabbler like me. He has constructed over 100 pieces of furniture. He made a set of “chairs, stools, rakes and pitchforks” from a hickory tree that he cut down near his home, in that case limiting himself to tools available in colonial times. He has built and auctioned off about a dozen pieces to raise money for the Carter Center. He is published, with pictures of his fine furniture, in the very journal of fine woodworking that I read to envy the pros.

KG4JYD
05-28-2008, 06:04 PM
But it would be nice to have someone as President that actually does know something about technical issues, just because it would show they are not complete airbags, and have some brains and thinking ability.

Ron Paul uses an iPhone:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1424/858095786_5576e78fbe.jpg?v=0


http://www.tuaw.com/2007/10/17/flickr-find-ron-paul-iphone-user/