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KD8EPC
05-26-2008, 10:19 PM
Hello fellow youth hams. I have been doing a lot of HF lately and havnt really heard any youth hams. I was wondering if any of you would like to have an HF net on 20 40 or 80 meters? Well let me know if you are interested. 73 de kd8epc

KU0DM
05-27-2008, 12:16 AM
We could try more of a round-table, so we can be more flexible with scheduling?

With summer coming up, maybe 20 meters around noon?

Anyone else with thoughts?

KD8EPC
05-27-2008, 01:25 AM
that would work for me i do my stuff on the farm mostly in the evening so that would be fine with me. what does everyone else think?

VO1GXG
05-27-2008, 01:32 AM
late evening on 80,20 or 17 is best for most youth's.

kb3laz
05-27-2008, 01:51 AM
Youth net would be cool.

KB1LQD
05-27-2008, 05:03 AM
Hey! Sounds great that a group of you want to start an HF net! Just an FYI, I'm not sure how many of you were around for NYAN (North American Youth Net). I was active in it on its tail end, it kinda died as HF went down with the sunspot cycle. It was a group that had a yahoo group, net preamble, and so on.... I'd love to see a full fledged effort that meets weekly again! I'll help where I can. Find a frequency that works, since you might not get it the first time, I'd recommend getting everyones AIM screenname and making a temporary chat so that you can coordinate better without the confusion of not being able to hear eachother. Throughout my experience with building, and rebuilding clubs, planning is everything! Plan it all out and make sure everyone knows whats happening and you'll be on your way to a good net!

KD8EPC
05-27-2008, 06:43 PM
thats a good idea with the screen name thing my screen name is KD8EPC msn is Chong199@hotmail.com yahoo is chong_cdx199@yahoo.com and my myspace is www.myspace.com/chong199

KC0PNH
05-27-2008, 06:50 PM
aim: tominabox1
yahoo: elliot_carver37 (not always on)
msn: elliot_carver37@hotmail.com

kc8zgw
05-27-2008, 10:36 PM
Youth net would be cool. As long as it's not in the evening... I work then.

kb3laz
05-28-2008, 05:28 AM
Weekends would be great because in the school year Im in class during the week. As for the summer I work afternoons, gotta pay for college some how, lol.
73

KB1LQD
05-31-2008, 07:31 PM
Heres a suggestion... Yahoo Group? Get one or two people to lead it.... give it a shot, if it doesnt work, keep trying.... I'd like to help where I can. I dont think I can be a leading member of much more with the time I have. If something gets started I'd like to see what I can do about getting my clubs involved as well when school's back in session

KD8EPC
05-31-2008, 07:57 PM
Ill start a yahoo group if anyone else here wants to join? Let me know? Ill starto ne then post the link here?

KD8EPC
05-31-2008, 08:09 PM
i started a yahoo group your all welcome to join (you dont have to be a youth amateur) heres the link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/youthamatuerradiooperators/

KB1LQD
05-31-2008, 09:17 PM
i started a yahoo group your all welcome to join (you dont have to be a youth amateur) heres the link http://groups.yahoo.com/group/youthamatuerradiooperators/

Congrats on getting the group started,

IMHO we should try to keep it geared towards youth. I'm not trying to start yet another forum argument about this but my with my 2 cents I'd say keep the group for youths. reason being, it would be a youth net... Honestly, many young people have different tastes, interests, and activities than non-youths. This would add a different flavor to a group rather than having a youth group of half or less of youths, and the rest obviously not. Just the way I've noticed the way things have gone throughout other attempts to get this kind of thing going again. If you've kept tabs on my other post on topics simular to this, you'd know that I'm a supporter of a youth "Community" which is why I have this view on it.

Remember, This is my opinion... It's your group so do as you want with it. just my 2 cent! either way I'm supportive!

kb3laz
06-03-2008, 04:32 AM
Congrats on getting the group started,

IMHO we should try to keep it geared towards youth. I'm not trying to start yet another forum argument about this but my with my 2 cents I'd say keep the group for youths. reason being, it would be a youth net... Honestly, many young people have different tastes, interests, and activities than non-youths. This would add a different flavor to a group rather than having a youth group of half or less of youths, and the rest obviously not. Just the way I've noticed the way things have gone throughout other attempts to get this kind of thing going again. If you've kept tabs on my other post on topics simular to this, you'd know that I'm a supporter of a youth "Community" which is why I have this view on it.

Remember, This is my opinion... It's your group so do as you want with it. just my 2 cent! either way I'm supportive!

Ah but what would you consider youth, under 18?
Shouldn't a responsible adult maybe a ham thats a parent moderate it?
Also what happens when all the youths are no longer youths?

KD8BVS
06-03-2008, 04:57 AM
I'm starting to regret selling my entire Kenwood TS-430S HF station now. I'm 16 btw.

KB1LQD
06-03-2008, 05:14 AM
Ah but what would you consider youth, under 18?
Shouldn't a responsible adult maybe a ham thats a parent moderate it?
Also what happens when all the youths are no longer youths?

Well, with the average ham over the age of 40... I think its a gray line and pretty safe to say that college age is still youth. Whats to say that a youth operator is not responsible? NAYN operated great with no adult moderator, it's demise was mainly due to band conditions and the location of many members. Actually, with my time in NAYN I heard control stations operating very well, just as good as any other well run net. Obviously the net control station should be familiar with running a net, or at least familiar with them. The whole Idea of the net is to be fun, ragchew, hang out with other people your own age, not a regimented emergency net or traffic net.

to reply to your last comment... I've been into radio for nearly 5 years now, finished my first year of college, and have done a lot in past years to help promote the hobby to youths and I am still doing that. Unfortunately if you use my definition of a youth operator then that means I have a only few more years left... But contrary to popular belief the hobby isn't "dead", It may be declining but there are still many kids younger than me getting into the hobby. I've been on the youth forum since its inception and can tell you that there are many youths here that were not here in the beginning. so i don't see a close end to interest in new youths coming aboard! :) There were youth operators before me when I got to NYAN....

Listen I'm not saying "lets go start a part of the hobby just for kids..." all I'm saying is that I believe a lot of us would like to just hang out on the air together as our own youth "group."

KD8EPC, Hows it looking? I just joined the yahoo group. As a side note, I'm working with my high school club over the summer, they still have a few weeks of school left so the next two mondays we'll meet. (2-4pm EST). We're working on a lot of things this summer but still hope to keep meetings going whether at the school or at my house, If it works out I can see if we can meet during net time. It's a possibility!

KD8EPC
06-03-2008, 10:45 PM
The groups going alright we have no posts on it yet but about 5 members so far i would like to keep it growing im going to put a post on there tonight to try to get something going. That high school club sounds cool i would love to start one at my school but i have no idea how to go about that. Even if your a youth ham without a radio join the group on yahoo. We could start a chat room on yahoo or aim.

KB1LQD
06-04-2008, 01:48 AM
The groups going alright we have no posts on it yet but about 5 members so far i would like to keep it growing im going to put a post on there tonight to try to get something going. That high school club sounds cool i would love to start one at my school but i have no idea how to go about that. Even if your a youth ham without a radio join the group on yahoo. We could start a chat room on yahoo or aim.

Dustin, private message me with some info about what grade your in, how many people might be interested in your club... ETC..... I was the co-founder of my high school club and we never would have gotten our "own" station if it wasn't for the ARRL Big Project (http://www.arrl.org/FandES/tbp/). It's a grant that you fill out and apply for gear. I can send you in the right direction!

KD8EPC
06-04-2008, 02:01 AM
pm sent to ya. :) :) :)

KB1LQC
06-04-2008, 02:44 AM
Big Project is DEFINITELY the way to go for setting up a school club.

KD8EPC
06-04-2008, 04:40 PM
I got some good news on starting a radio club ill talk to you on aim later and show ya the email. :):):)

w0ea
06-06-2008, 12:21 PM
Hey guys, me again (former KC0PNH ^^) I'd be happy to run the net, but I dont have much power and only a compromise antenna :-/ I've had experience running a net and wouldnt have a problem with it, and as long as I have some relay stations I think we'd be able to carry out a respectable net. I'm going to suggest 20m since its open to somewhere just about all the time. I work 40hrs a week so we'll have to do evening times, which I think are probably best anyway.... I'm going to suggest Monday nights at about 01:00z.

lemme know what you guys are thinking about!

Tom

kb3laz
06-06-2008, 05:39 PM
Hey guys, me again (former KC0PNH ^^) I'd be happy to run the net, but I dont have much power and only a compromise antenna :-/ I've had experience running a net and wouldnt have a problem with it, and as long as I have some relay stations I think we'd be able to carry out a respectable net. I'm going to suggest 20m since its open to somewhere just about all the time. I work 40hrs a week so we'll have to do evening times, which I think are probably best anyway.... I'm going to suggest Monday nights at about 01:00z.

lemme know what you guys are thinking about!

Tom

Id be happy to relay if its at a time Im not working, or at school.
My new station will be setup in a few weeks.
Ill have stacked 20m beams and a kw if I need it.;)
Oh ya I see the time that will work, lol.

KU0DM
06-06-2008, 05:42 PM
Id be happy to relay if its at a time Im not working, or at school.
My new station will be setup in a few weeks.
Ill have stacked 20m beams and a kw if I need it.;)


Dude! What kinda job do you have! :eek:

KB1LQC
06-06-2008, 06:09 PM
Id be happy to relay if its at a time Im not working, or at school.
My new station will be setup in a few weeks.
Ill have stacked 20m beams and a kw if I need it.;)
Oh ya I see the time that will work, lol.

HEHE reminds me of the old saying "QRO, life's to short for QRP"

KD8EPC
06-07-2008, 04:18 PM
Im in for a 20 meter net just as soon as i throw the antenna back in the tree which will probably be today.

kb3laz
06-09-2008, 06:17 AM
Dude! What kinda job do you have! :eek:
That depends on the day of the week.:p
I work for GM in the summers.

KD8EPC
06-09-2008, 04:05 PM
GM is a good company my grandfather worked there for almost 40 years before his stroke. They make some nice cars.

kb3laz
06-10-2008, 01:53 AM
GM is a good company my grandfather worked there for almost 40 years before his stroke. They make some nice cars.

Yes they do for a few more years anyway.
I have a cobalt and I like it rather well.

KB1LQD
06-18-2008, 10:31 PM
Hows the status of a possible youth net?

kc9mav
06-22-2008, 02:49 AM
I was thinking about a youth net on hf I asked on eham and all I got where negative replies!

Go for it emali me at capnlightning@gmail.com

I am a youth op 12 yo and you will find me on 20m every day just got to tune around!

KD8EPC
06-22-2008, 09:01 PM
well weve got a small group but at any rate its a group not much activity on the yahoo group more here. Ive available almost all the time with the exception of the hours of 6-9 pm when im at the farm im capable of 80,40, and 20, most of what i do is on 80 but im open for any bad ive also got 10 meter but i don't think that would work for a net across the country. So im going to suggest we start a net lets say Sunday evenings if that's alright with everyone im open cuz i don't work on Sundays we could start this net around 8:30 or 9:00 Eastern time? I have no experience with being net control so whoever wants to do that let me know. If possible we need to all be in contact online so if the band conditions arent good or the frequency we decide on is occupied. I have aim, msn, and yahoo so i can stay in contact with pretty much everyone. Someone suggest a frequency and we will be good to go my contact information is aim = KD8EPC msn = chong199@hotmail.com and yahoo = chong_cdx199@yahoo.com ive also got a phone number if youve got no messengers send me an email if you need that. Lets get this thing going guys. :)

KD8EPC
06-22-2008, 09:04 PM
youve got an email kc9mav

kc9mav
06-23-2008, 12:57 AM
I think through emails that I have done with kc8edc that it should be a general purpose/youth net.

Remember this is HF a whole bunch of people are on it.

I have been requested to type the net script as an outline I think 40m would be the best choice not to active but some active probably meet at around 7.270 to 7.280 not exact frequency yet.

But if we had a net controls in different areas in the states central areas KC9MAV & KD8EDC. Then have more volunteers to assist for check ins.

Dustin email me when you want to meet up before the net on aim my screen name is kc9mav in lower case.

73
KC9MAV

KD8EPC
06-23-2008, 04:07 AM
we will be having the net on 40 meters because myself and kc9mav have confirmed we can communicate that way. Any other stations that would like to help with check ins email me or kc9mav thanks we have not set up a final frequency or time yet but will in the next day or 2 :):). we will keep you all posted on that info

kb3laz
06-23-2008, 07:42 AM
So it would seem that this net has finally become a reality.
This is a very good thing and I am waiting to talk to you all on the air.
On average I talk with people 3x may age so it will be nice to have involvement with amateurs more along my age range, lol. I do not have my beam up yet so I will not make a very good relay but Ill do what I can, lol. This will give me a great opportunity to try out my new toy, Icom 756proIII:D. As of right now I am working off of an inverted V about 20ft in the air. However some day soon I will have my beam up and a KW to go with it.:cool:
Hope to catch ya all on the air, but until then 73.

w0ea
06-23-2008, 01:19 PM
So if I'm not mistaken, the consensus is Sunday evenings at or around 02:00z on 40m near 7.270 LSB.

I already volunteered to be net control, I've run nets before and its no challenge, you'll all be able to do it before too long! I'm in Iowa so probably the most centrally located, though I doubt that will help much since we'll all be running barefoot with wire antennas. As long as we can relay, we'll be just fine.

KD8EPC
06-23-2008, 04:52 PM
Alright so its agreed we will be having the net on Sunday Evenings on 7.270 LSB. Is eveyone in agreement with this because im game?

kc9mav
06-23-2008, 05:38 PM
Alright so its agreed we will be having the net on Sunday Evenings on 7.270 LSB. Is eveyone in agreement with this because im game?

Ok If you want I can type a net script/outline,

We should probably have some vertically polarized which could be me our if someone has a really good wire antenna.

The person in Iowa you should get a aol screen name so we could meet up on hf . Me and KD8EDC did that my screen name is kc9mav and I am usually online.

73
KC9MAV

w0ea
06-23-2008, 05:56 PM
Ok If you want I can type a net script/outline,

We should probably have some vertically polarized which could be me our if someone has a really good wire antenna.

The person in Iowa you should get a aol screen name so we could meet up on hf . Me and KD8EDC did that my screen name is kc9mav and I am usually online.

73
KC9MAV

I already posted it in here (oh as KC0PNH I see...). My AIM is tominabox1. I'm running a vertical and 100w. Not sure if we're going to be doing it this week since Field Day is Sat and Sunday so might not be set back up at home by then.

kc9mav
06-23-2008, 06:28 PM
I already posted it in here (oh as KC0PNH I see...). My AIM is tominabox1. I'm running a vertical and 100w. Not sure if we're going to be doing it this week since Field Day is Sat and Sunday so might not be set back up at home by then.

We will not be doing it during field we would be stomped on like hell.
We would never run this net during a contest weekend.

Ok see you whenever.

w0ea
06-23-2008, 06:31 PM
Field day will be over with by then and almost every weekend is a contest weekend ;)

I'll try to get things set up and ready on Sunday night, keep your eyes peeled here and I'll let you all know if I'm up and running, or better yet, sit on 7.270 and listen for me!

ve6wtf
06-23-2008, 10:10 PM
I have been doing a lot of HF lately and havnt really heard any youth hams.


I talk to Ethan, KE7DUX a few times a month.. I hear him on PSK-20m all the time.

KD8EPC
06-24-2008, 04:00 AM
well i think this weekend will be our first net.

ve6wtf
06-24-2008, 05:47 AM
This weekend is FD

So sunday night?

Operator?

Time? (UTC)

KD8EPC
06-24-2008, 03:17 PM
the net control will either be kc9mav or AC0LO ill send some emails and things to figure that out. The time will be 02 UTC and the freq will be 7.270 LSB.

KB1LQD
06-26-2008, 10:45 AM
you mean 200 UTC correct? I sent out an email over the K2GXT club reflector about the net as well! we'll see...

KD8EPC
06-26-2008, 05:57 PM
thats correct. Hope to hear everyone then

KD8EPC
06-29-2008, 11:12 PM
well fellas its looking like im going to be running the net this evening. details are listed above

K0DXC
06-30-2008, 12:58 AM
Ok If you want I can type a net script/outline,

We should probably have some vertically polarized which could be me our if someone has a really good wire antenna.

The person in Iowa you should get a aol screen name so we could meet up on hf . Me and KD8EDC did that my screen name is kc9mav and I am usually online.

73
KC9MAV

You might (probably are) be new to this whole HF thing but I really don't suggest you use a wire antenna for the net control station. Find some kid who has a beam or at least a vertical. If you use a wire half the stations won't be able to hear you.

KU0DM
06-30-2008, 02:29 AM
You might (probably are) be new to this whole HF thing but I really don't suggest you use a wire antenna for the net control station. Find some kid who has a beam or at least a vertical. If you use a wire half the stations won't be able to hear you.

He can use a wire, but will need to be more careful about choosing the timing of when we have the best state-side, or good band. condx, etc. and having relay stations that can hear each other. None of them necessarily need to hear NC, as long as a check-in can be relayed to and from wherever the destination is.

kb3laz
06-30-2008, 03:29 AM
You might (probably are) be new to this whole HF thing but I really don't suggest you use a wire antenna for the net control station. Find some kid who has a beam or at least a vertical. If you use a wire half the stations won't be able to hear you.

Unless its on 75m because Id like to see that beam.:D

KD8EPC
06-30-2008, 05:56 AM
well hmm i dont know i tryed calling for a net but heard noone i guess we will try again next week?

KB1LQD
06-30-2008, 11:12 AM
Ok, I totaly missed the net! sorry! Had some other things I had to do yesterday... Will try again next weekend!

N3IK
06-30-2008, 06:24 PM
How about calling frequencies for young hams on all of the bands. that way we could meet and ragchew anytime. Nets are fun but they require you to be on at certain times. With calling frequencies we could call cq youth or something and know we have a good chance of speaking to someone who has similar interest

Lars KB3QLG/at

ve6wtf
07-01-2008, 08:49 AM
well I am game if you guys are going to have the net on sunday..
I am only a little QRP station now so you big guns better get some headphones lmao

KD8EPC
07-01-2008, 10:38 PM
hmm ill be there Sunday hopefully ill hear someone?

ve6wtf
07-02-2008, 01:45 AM
hopefully you will hear me!

I wish someone would sked with me on CW some day..
I dont know what it is.. but I havent touched the mike for a while!
guess something kicked cause copying 20WPM aint to hard anymore?

K0DXC
07-02-2008, 10:23 PM
He can use a wire, but will need to be more careful about choosing the timing of when we have the best state-side, or good band. condx, etc. and having relay stations that can hear each other. None of them necessarily need to hear NC, as long as a check-in can be relayed to and from wherever the destination is.

No...

You always want the net control station to be the strongest one out there. If there has to be a relay for every check-in that gets to be a mess and the net is rundown by callers.

Yes, it may work; but no, it's not practical.

kc9mav
07-02-2008, 10:36 PM
No...

You always want the net control station to be the strongest one out there. If there has to be a relay for every check-in that gets to be a mess and the net is rundown by callers.

Yes, it may work; but no, it's not practical.

It would be best if we had a net control vertically polarized and a assistant net control with a beam, unless anyone has a beam that won't be possible clearly if you have a good vertical setup such as a butternut vertical with radials that would probably skip over people in surrounding states because of the launch angle is so low that is why it is such a good dx antenna.


A beam would be useless unless it is 60ft ( or something like that I can not remember the formula) or above other wise the beam is just a regular dipole.

Most of all I think this should not be a net but a group that meets on a frequency.

I personally do not have an amplifier I run 100 watts but do not be afraid of that 100 watts. If I can work UA3TCJ in Moscow russia with the A index 5 and SFI 65 on 100 watts thats good. I will probably be upgrading my antenna system to a Butternut 9 bnd vertical http://www.bencher.com/ham/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=14



Hey Cal why don;t you help a noob like me out with CW?

I can send at 40 wpm but cant recieve at 10wpm :mad::mad:

73
KC9MAV

KU0DM
07-03-2008, 12:39 AM
No...

You always want the net control station to be the strongest one out there. If there has to be a relay for every check-in that gets to be a mess and the net is rundown by callers.

Yes, it may work; but no, it's not practical.

I use a dipole and I'm always strong enough. Cal, a wire would work fine. But the thing is there are going to be relay's inevitably, and I agree it would be good to limit those if possible. We wouldn't need a relay for every check-in, what would be a good idea is compile of list of relays standing by. Have the main NC make any calls, and pick-up whoever they hear. Then have another relay station call the net for a bit. Many nets already do this because regardless of what you're running you're never going to hear everybody.

There is a net of 15m that has 4 people running it. One main NC, and 3 relays. They pass around who's calling throughout the net. Once I was trying the check-in, the guy with a beam didn't hear me. But when another fellow was calling the net, he heard me and I got checked in. Having 1 net control MAY work on VHF repeaters or close in comms, but what is very common is multiple NC's.

kb3laz
07-03-2008, 01:53 AM
I use a dipole and I'm always strong enough. Cal, a wire would work fine. But the thing is there are going to be relay's inevitably, and I agree it would be good to limit those if possible. We wouldn't need a relay for every check-in, what would be a good idea is compile of list of relays standing by. Have the main NC make any calls, and pick-up whoever they hear. Then have another relay station call the net for a bit. Many nets already do this because regardless of what you're running you're never going to hear everybody.

There is a net of 15m that has 4 people running it. One main NC, and 3 relays. They pass around who's calling throughout the net. Once I was trying the check-in, the guy with a beam didn't hear me. But when another fellow was calling the net, he heard me and I got checked in. Having 1 net control MAY work on VHF repeaters or close in comms, but what is very common is multiple NC's.

Duncan is right, I check into a lot of HF nets and there are many of them with 4 or 5 net controls. They are strategically positioned across the US.

ve6wtf
07-03-2008, 08:10 AM
It would be best if we had a net control vertically polarized and a assistant net control with a beam, unless anyone has a beam that won't be possible clearly if you have a good vertical setup such as a butternut vertical with radials that would probably skip over people in surrounding states because of the launch angle is so low that is why it is such a good dx antenna.


A beam would be useless unless it is 60ft ( or something like that I can not remember the formula) or above other wise the beam is just a regular dipole.

Most of all I think this should not be a net but a group that meets on a frequency.

I personally do not have an amplifier I run 100 watts but do not be afraid of that 100 watts. If I can work UA3TCJ in Moscow russia with the A index 5 and SFI 65 on 100 watts thats good. I will probably be upgrading my antenna system to a Butternut 9 bnd vertical http://www.bencher.com/ham/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=14



Hey Cal why don;t you help a noob like me out with CW?

I can send at 40 wpm but cant recieve at 10wpm :mad::mad:

73
KC9MAV

If you can slow down to 30wpm or maybe 25 I can help you out.
dont mind sending a little bit slow

ve6wtf
07-05-2008, 01:43 AM
Hope to hear you guys on the net this weekend..
.......after the contest

EI5GTB
07-06-2008, 12:17 AM
Hi folks, over at www.hamradioteens.org we tried to get a net running. but never had much success, we were all a bit spread out. Im going to start to try and get some nets running again, or mabye more round tables than nets. I will add a forum just for skeds, be sure to check us out, and hopefully we can orginise somthing, we have quite a few members at the moment, so mabye that could help to get some good chats goin!!

73,
Paul EI5GTB

kc9mav
07-06-2008, 02:53 AM
Hi folks, over at www.hamradioteens.org we tried to get a net running. but never had much success, we were all a bit spread out. Im going to start to try and get some nets running again, or mabye more round tables than nets. I will add a forum just for skeds, be sure to check us out, and hopefully we can orginise somthing, we have quite a few members at the moment, so mabye that could help to get some good chats goin!!

73,
Paul EI5GTB

Thats because the net was on echolink and the server was in the Y section and it was almost the last page.:D

73
KC9MAV

EI5GTB
07-06-2008, 11:26 AM
well, that and the fact that the server was broken most of the time. along with very few people turing out when it was running!

KD8EPC
07-18-2008, 05:08 PM
alright guys this Sunday at 200UTC on 7.270 LSB. is the net . I will be net control unless someone else would like to be. I hope to hear you all there.

73 de kd8epc

w0ea
07-18-2008, 05:12 PM
OK, I feel bad because I volunteered to net control and havent done it yet, but things got REALLY busy last week when I started a summer class with lots of homework due on Mondays! I'll be trying to check in though so hope to hear you all.

K0DXC
07-18-2008, 05:41 PM
It would be best if we had a net control vertically polarized and a assistant net control with a beam, unless anyone has a beam that won't be possible clearly if you have a good vertical setup such as a butternut vertical with radials that would probably skip over people in surrounding states because of the launch angle is so low that is why it is such a good dx antenna.


A beam would be useless unless it is 60ft ( or something like that I can not remember the formula) or above other wise the beam is just a regular dipole.

Most of all I think this should not be a net but a group that meets on a frequency.

I personally do not have an amplifier I run 100 watts but do not be afraid of that 100 watts. If I can work UA3TCJ in Moscow russia with the A index 5 and SFI 65 on 100 watts thats good. I will probably be upgrading my antenna system to a Butternut 9 bnd vertical http://www.bencher.com/ham/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=14



Hey Cal why don;t you help a noob like me out with CW?

I can send at 40 wpm but cant recieve at 10wpm :mad::mad:

73
KC9MAV

Actually,

A low beam (about 33ft off the ground) with three elements would be far better then a dipole. The higher the beam gets, the lower the radiation angle. If you were using a beam up 60 ft then the skip would skip over the US into Europe or wherever the beam is pointing. Dipoles and verticals don't compare very well to beams. You may be heard with verticals, but beams give you gain making your stations S units louder.

Your formula on the beam is wrong. For a 10/15/20 meter beam the minimum height above ground to be effective is 33 feet.

Yes, verticals would work good for net control, but the net control station should be somewhere in the Midwest for the best propagation. Beams would work just as well. It's all personal preference.

If you want, I can always help you out with CW. The reason I have reached 30wpm + is that I practice all the time. If you can already receive at 10wpm, start having QSO's everday at 10wpm. Your speed will quickly increase. You can read the article I wrote for NCJ (National Contest Journal) which gives a little bit of my CW story (as well as my ham radio biography) at http://www.arrl.org/ncj/2008/07/Darula.pdf

It is a pdf file so you will need adobe reader.

KD8EPC
07-18-2008, 05:44 PM
haha its cool man whenever you gat a chance to be net control just let me know haha i gotta write some kind of script for it before Sunday haha. hope to hear ya on there

KB1LQD
07-22-2008, 04:00 AM
Hey, Im usually pretty busy but managed to try to check in last night... but didnt hear anything... I might have gotten the time wrong... 200 UTC... is that 10 pm EST? I forgot with the whole time changes and Ive been busy enough this summer to be operating spuraticaly... Ill try again next weekend if I can! BTW, 7.270 had an AM station about a KHz up...

kc2pmw
08-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Hi,

I just wanted to say good job on getting a net together. I will try to check in this weekend.

It may be a good idea to switch it to a Saturday evening. On Sunday evening during the school year, everyone is studying for a test on Monday.:)

Also, we should have more such nets. Not everyone is equipped for all bands. Maybe having another net on 20 meters or 75 meters is a good idea. If the 40 meter net is at 02:00z, then maybe a 20 meter at 01:00z and a 75 meter net at 03:00z.

If there is interest, we can choose a frequency and talk more about it.

Until later,
73,
KC2PMW

KD8EPC
08-13-2008, 12:09 AM
Sunday is not seeming to work lets do a saturday net same time justo n saturday on the same freq Saturday at 200UTC on 7.270 LSB and if you cant make that at 300UTC we will meet on 3.855 LSB any other suggestions for nets or time would be fine with me what do you guys think?

kc2pmw
08-13-2008, 01:38 AM
Sounds good. I will try my hardest to be there. I am Woodbury, NJ with a Hustler 4 Band Trap Verticle with 75Mtr resonator and IC-725. Hopefully everything will be ready in time. My radials are not all set out yet:).

I would also recommend a 20 meter as per the original plan for the net before 40 meters was chosen. 14.335MHz USB at 01:00z. This is 10kHz above the Hurricane Watch Net and may have better propogation for long distance contacts, at the very least it tends to be reliable and fairly consistant. Maybe not DX, but pretty far.

Until later,
73,
KC2PMW

KB1PKL
08-23-2008, 08:56 PM
Is there a net tonight? I'll listen anyway, but cant participate (only a tech). Taking my General test Monday!!

KI4LFP
08-27-2008, 01:46 PM
hey whens the next net id love to join im running a 80m carolina windom and a 756pro

KD0DJH
09-06-2008, 01:58 PM
Hi,
I'm a new ham and still am not on the air yet :(, anyways I saw that this net happend to be on a general class frequency. Well it happens that I am a general class licensee and was wondering where the net is, when the net is, and what mode the net is?

kc9mav
09-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Hi,
I'm a new ham and still am not on the air yet :(, anyways I saw that this net happend to be on a general class frequency. Well it happens that I am a general class licensee and was wondering where the net is, when the net is, and what mode the net is?

The net is still not rolling yet check back later.

73
Dave

KD0DJH
09-06-2008, 02:03 PM
Ok, I'll keep checking in and hopefully soon I have some sort of rig up.

KD8EPC
09-06-2008, 03:54 PM
ok hope you get something up soon

KD8EPC
09-07-2008, 01:15 AM
both the 40 meter and 80 meter freqs. are occupied we will have to find different frequencies if youve got any suggestions let me know.

kc9mav
09-07-2008, 02:21 AM
both the 40 meter and 80 meter freqs. are occupied we will have to find different frequencies if youve got any suggestions let me know.

How about 7.500 I don't think many people would be there! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

KD8EPC
09-07-2008, 02:59 AM
"How about 7.500 I don't think many people would be there! "

i think not..... according to the band plan we can only go to 7.300 mhz

kc9mav
09-07-2008, 03:00 AM
"How about 7.500 I don't think many people would be there! "

i think not..... according to the band plan we can only go to 7.300 mhz

Hehe. Well we could be pirates!!

I was joking. Actually 7500 is probably SW junk.

KD8EPC
09-07-2008, 01:31 PM
freeband hams....... come on now were not cber's i think 40 might be a bad band to much sw stuff

kc2pmw
09-19-2008, 11:29 PM
Hey guys,

I would recommend 75mtrs On Sunday morning 03:00 UTC (Saturday evening 11:00PM EDT, Saturday 10:00 PM EST) at 3.993 MHz LSB. That area is usually clear.

For 40mtrs, the whole band is either SW or contesting on the weekends. Bad place for a night net.

20mtrs around 14.335 MHz USB is OK at night usually. I think maybe a net on Sunday morning 02:00 UTC (Saturday evening 10:00 PM EDT, Saturday 9:00 PM EST).

Either of those places should work for a good net. Let me know on the forum.

73,
Andrew, KC2PMW