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kd8bnb
05-19-2008, 04:02 PM
Any of you know where a good place is to find an old Uniden President Madison in exellent shape? I had one when I was a kid and would like to put one on the shelf next to my old kenwood ts-700.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Ebay has all junk.
Thanks and 73!
-Eric
Your local hamfest or the various 'Net-based CB radio forums would be good for starters.
Advertise on Craigslist.
Check out Google Groups' rec.radio.cb and rec.radio.swap reflectors; place a 'Wanted' ad there.
kd8bnb
05-19-2008, 04:11 PM
I will check on those.
-Thank you
ad5mb
05-19-2008, 05:37 PM
Guy named Bay...
eBay...
has a website.
Guy named Bay...
eBay...
has a website.
As mentioned in the original post:
Ebay has all junk.
kb3laz
05-19-2008, 05:54 PM
My grandpa had a Madison and two grants like brand new He just sold them a few months ago sorry. Finally no more cbs in his shack, lol.
kl7aj
05-19-2008, 07:53 PM
Any of you know where a good place is to find an old Uniden President Madison in exellent shape? I had one when I was a kid and would like to put one on the shelf next to my old kenwood ts-700.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Ebay has all junk.
Thanks and 73!
-Eric
How old school are you talking? I have a tube type moblie Heathkit CB, nearly new condition, with vibrator power supply. I'm sure it's a collector's item for someone.
eric
n8fgb
05-19-2008, 08:07 PM
I have origininal Pres Washington I was thinking of useing on 10 meter.But I might part with it.
Rich
If it isn't a tube rig and only 23 channels, it isn't "old school".
Just ask Paul Sr.!!
And one more thing...separate Tx and Rx crystals for each channel. No crystal synthesizers. :D
kc7jty
05-19-2008, 09:27 PM
Madison, Grant, same board. Cobra 2000, 148 gtl very similar. Washington, Cobra 142 gtl inferior receive quality. The first 4 radios mentioned can be put on 10 mtr with no parts required. The last 2 need a crystal replaced.
W4HAY
05-19-2008, 09:44 PM
...and don't forget the ubiquitous White- and Black-Faced Johnsons, or the Heath "Lunchbox" (http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj/lunchbox.htm)!
w2amr
05-19-2008, 10:14 PM
Madison, Grant, same board. Cobra 2000, 148 gtl very similar. Washington, Cobra 142 gtl inferior receive quality. The first 4 radios mentioned can be put on 10 mtr with no parts required. The last 2 need a crystal replaced.
All available at your local Rudedog outlet. Duck plucker.
w2amr
05-19-2008, 10:15 PM
How old school are you talking? I have a tube type moblie Heathkit CB, nearly new condition, with vibrator power supply. I'm sure it's a collector's item for someone.
eric
Is that the GW-10?
wa4brl
05-20-2008, 03:40 AM
Watch ebay for Knight Kit tube-type 23 channel CB's. They show up often.
You can check out MY old school transistor CB at this site: http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/c-100.html
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 03:44 AM
And one more thing...separate Tx and Rx crystals for each channel. No crystal synthesizers.
Nope, TX crystals and VFO RX.
Had a Lafayette like that, only 7 TX channels at a time.
All available at your local Rudedog outlet. Duck pluckah.
Fixed that for ya. ;)
KG4CGC
05-20-2008, 04:41 AM
Is the Madison FCC type accepted?
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 04:43 AM
Yep.......................
KG4CGC
05-20-2008, 04:59 AM
Seems that I read that it was an export only radio. Well, that may have been written by some OF with an axe to grind. Was a long time ago.
Good luck with your search.
I used to have a Washington and I don't miss it one bit. It was good for what it was. 1995 production run. Sold it for 250.
As far as I know, the guy still uses it in his motor home.
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 05:07 AM
The Uniden model is a CB.
President made some exports,I think.
Fine line.
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 05:10 AM
While we're on the topic of SSB CB's, isn't having a so-called "locked clarifier" a hindrance for SSB communications?
I plead guilty to modding my clarifier when I was on SSB CB. Simplified using it.
That rings a bell. It seems that the Unidens were the 'legal' ones of the bunch and that the President tagged ones were for 'export only'...... yeah, like that ever happened. :rolleyes:
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 05:13 AM
I have heard a guy on 2M wanting to get an export for 10M use in his vehicle.
Must be a monetary issue.
I hope he never experiments with the RB control. :D
Must be a monetary issue.
Could very well be, he may have more $$$ than sense as an old Ratty Shack HTX-10 usually goes for $35 to $100 based upon condition and I bet a 15 year old President Jackson would still fetch $300 in the CB circles. ;)
kc7jty
05-20-2008, 08:00 AM
Watch ebay for Knight Kit tube-type 23 channel CB's. They show up often.
You can check out MY old school transistor CB at this site: http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/c-100.html
Good god man.....antique boards with the old made in America 20% tolerance resistors! I think ol John the baptist hadn't even been beheaded yet.
kc7jty
05-20-2008, 08:06 AM
Seems that I read that it was an export only radio. Well, that may have been written by some OF with an axe to grind. Was a long time ago.
Good luck with your search.
I used to have a Washington and I don't miss it one bit. It was good for what it was. 1995 production run. Sold it for 250.
As far as I know, the guy still uses it in his motor home.
Brain storm...There were 2 completely different Grant radios. I'm not sure about the Madisons though. The original Grant used the 858 board and had a 4 pin mike connector, the newer Grant had the 8719 board with a 5 pin mike socket. The 858 board was a p.o.s.
kc7jty
05-20-2008, 08:16 AM
The Uniden model is a CB.
President made some exports,I think.
Fine line.
yes, and no. President was the original name, then Uniden President, then, Uniden, all of which were legit cb radios. I saw a Grant export radio at a yard sale just last week. President wasn't written on it anywhere.
kc7jty
05-20-2008, 08:19 AM
While we're on the topic of SSB CB's, isn't having a so-called "locked clarifier" a hindrance for SSB communications?
I plead guilty to modding my clarifier when I was on SSB CB. Simplified using it.
I think you already answered your question.
KC9IUX
05-20-2008, 08:32 AM
I was wondering in the justification of the FCC rule against even the slightest ability to have non channelized control of transmitting.
Letting a CB radio move the TXer along with the RX just a few Kc in lock step would'nt seem to do harm.
To think I was breaking a law to only to talk to a guy a few miles away a little more easily seems silly.
w2amr
05-20-2008, 08:38 AM
Fixed that for ya. ;)
chickenpicka
w2amr
05-20-2008, 09:28 AM
I was wondering in the justification of the FCC rule against even the slightest ability to have non channelized control of transmitting.
Letting a CB radio move the TXer along with the RX just a few Kc in lock step would'nt seem to do harm.
To think I was breaking a law to only to talk to a guy a few miles away a little more easily seems silly.
That's the problem with CB, too many rules.
kc7jty
05-20-2008, 09:47 AM
I was wondering in the justification of the FCC rule against even the slightest ability to have non channelized control of transmitting.
Letting a CB radio move the TXer along with the RX just a few Kc in lock step would'nt seem to do harm.
To think I was breaking a law to only to talk to a guy a few miles away a little more easily seems silly.
I'd be careful if I were you. The radio police may brand you heretic for such comments
KA5LQJ
05-20-2008, 11:09 AM
Additionally to Answer, the question:
There is a YahooGroup that collects, trades, and sells Back-in-the-day 23 or less channel radios. I don't remember the Group name, you'll have to search.
Now, if you are truly and old-timey C.B. radio op, the terms, duck-plucka', snuff-skeetah, chicken-plucka' never was in your vocabulary. Those terms came during the Trucker Invasion. Prior to that full 10-code numbers were used, CB'er's didn't curse on the radio, but did shoot skip, by calling "Seek you the Ax", as a "get-@round" from calling "CQ DX". LOL!
The E.F. JohnsonMessinger One's (the Whiteface), 5 channel, xtal-controlled, transcievers & the Messinger II (the Blackface), 10 channel, xtal-controlled transciever with 25 channel tunable rcvr, can be "converted" to 10 meter AM mode (29.000 mcs to 29.200 mcs) by removing the xtals and replacing them with the proper, 3rd overtone, .0005 tollerance xtals from International Crystals in Oklahoma City, OK. The receive xtal is cut 455 kcs, lower than the transmit xtal. (Transmit = 29.101 mcs. Receive = 28.646.0 mcs). There ARE other "mods"...RF gain control on receive, modulator tube "upgrade", increase audio modulation WITHOUT going over 100%, etc. I have 2 of the old rigs, One is still on CB, unmodified, the other is changed to 10 meter AM and is on 29.101.0 ....29 Ten/Ten AM! :eek: ;) :cool: Now, be appraised the crystals for this change are twenty dollars apiece. The old CB rig has the original Astatic, brushed silver, Astatic, teardrop mike, while the modified 10 meter AM rig has the Turner 254C, base mike. :cool:
My Original CB call in 1962 was 8Q-3224, 10-4? I also held a 2nd class Radio-Telephone license as well. Ahhh. the good ol' days of Pierce-Simpson, Tram, Sonar, GE, Motorola, Browning, E.F. Johnson, EICO, WRL, Globe, Heathkit, Lafayette and the list goes on. Yes, I have a somewhat limited edition museum of old, 23 or less channel CB radios and they ALL still work.
Respectfully,
73,
Don/KA5-LQJ
Ten/Ten International
N.B.S.R.C -Chapter 2 President
ex-8Q3224, KKR2747, KOR0528, & KAMF7712
Advanced trained Skywarn Spotter -25 years
Old school charm, transistorized dependability, Johnson name.
First digital rig, pushbutton operation, mini-sized and Flintstone era slide pots.
5 rock-bound channels and no wussy channel 9/19 alert. :)
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/538/messenger125xt8.jpg
Really liked those pix of the old C-100. I had a Lafayette 100mw ht. Still have them as well as a Safari II and other Knight/Allied rigs. Nothing like hot tubes to keep you warm on a cold night.
I was wondering in the justification of the FCC rule against even the slightest ability to have non channelized control of transmitting.
Letting a CB radio move the TXer along with the RX just a few Kc in lock step would'nt seem to do harm.
To think I was breaking a law to only to talk to a guy a few miles away a little more easily seems silly.
By doing so, you void the unit's type acceptance for operation within the Part 95 (Class D) service. This is due to the fact the unit's method of TX frequency control has been altered from the manufacturer's design specs. Overall frequency stability may have been compromised as well.
Of course, this isn't a problem if the unit is converted to 10M operation and used solely in the Amateur service. ;)
Of course, nothing sez "Old Skool" like a DAK:
http://download.usenet-replayer.com/L/H/0/2/8/9/1156639820.1.JPG
KG4CGC
05-21-2008, 06:33 AM
Of course, nothing sez "Old Skool" like a DAK:
http://download.usenet-replayer.com/L/H/0/2/8/9/1156639820.1.JPG
Been seeing the same DAK at Charlotte and Shelby.
A lot (these are the extra characters I added so that the bloody board filter doesn't think I wrote '+1' or something that would have been adequate as a response....... blah, blah, blah........):mad:
K1CJS
05-21-2008, 04:19 PM
Have you tried.......the old school house? :D
ve2nsm
05-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Of course, nothing sez "Old Skool" like a DAK:
http://download.usenet-replayer.com/L/H/0/2/8/9/1156639820.1.JPG
I used to have a DAK, and it was the casing I used to build myself a "big" radio.
That was in the mid '80s:
coverage 27960-27995 in 5kHz increments, digitally controlled with display
dual VFOs with split capability
the display was showing the frequency and also the channel when on the normal ones
added filters for selectivity
FM
80W output SSB/FM
around 40W output AM with real collector modulation (think plate modulation for you tube junkies)
Separate input for RX antenna
Lots of added controls.
It had a beefy 28V supply for the output stage
I guess the weight of the thing must have been tripled :D
I sold it later on and got me a real HF radio... I missed it though and today I regret it so much :(
ve2nsm
05-21-2008, 04:41 PM
Kind of different when you look at the original :-D
http://www.cbmuseum.nl/images/dak_mark_IX.JPG
kc7jty
05-22-2008, 02:13 AM
and the board inside is 6 in x 7 in.
NA4BH
05-22-2008, 02:23 AM
Would "DAK' stand for Drew A. Kaplan (if I remember correctly)? If so his company used to have a lot of really neat stuff. Bought my first SW radio from there.
ve2nsm
05-22-2008, 03:21 AM
and the board inside is 6 in x 7 in.
Yup, with a girlie power supply :D
KG4CGC
05-22-2008, 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kc7jty View Post
and the board inside is 6 in x 7 in.
Yup, with a girlie power supply :D
.........and pink capacitors.
and the board inside is 6 in x 7 in.
Lots of room to add in a "kicker"...
....which is what a lot of the more serious users of that radio did... :eek:
kl7aj
05-22-2008, 06:15 PM
Would "DAK' stand for Drew A. Kaplan (if I remember correctly)? If so his company used to have a lot of really neat stuff. Bought my first SW radio from there.
I bought a Swiss skeleton watch from them about 15 years ago...very original and cool.
eric
kb9xn
05-22-2008, 07:34 PM
Local Pawn Shoppe comes to mind
KB3LIX
05-22-2008, 10:06 PM
President Madison......Old School ????
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!!!
That isn't OLD SCHOOL.
Maybe the General RadioTelephone 6 channel TX, VFO receive.....
or the International Crystal 2 piece radio I have are OLD school.
The International has an R/T package that goes in the trunk (or wherever)
and a control head that went up front.
All tube units.
The General was 117 vac only, the International was a 12 vdc mobile.
Both reside in my junk cabinet. They haven't see the light of day in years.
And probably won't until I'm dead and gone.
Have a bunch of young Whipper-Snappers too.
Browning Golden Eagle, Browning SSB Mobiles (2 or 3 of them), Johnson 223 (I think that is the model) bunch of others.
All work, but as far as I am concerned, all are junk.
Even have an old Siltronix 1011D.
Been toying with the idea of resurrecting it for 10 meters, but it would need a bunch of work. First, have to resolve the drifting that Swan & Siltronix are
FAMOUS for, then have to retune the VFO to operate between 28.3 and 28.5.
It is currently set to run 28.5-29.0
I have lots of time until 10 meters begins to take off again.
Maybe I'll resurrect it, and it may go in the dumpster....Just don't know ???