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Not sure you will see too many post from the LEFT today, they may be busy.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/01/may-day-may-day-all-purpose-left-wing-grievance-day/?print=1
wa8rti
05-01-2008, 12:52 PM
Wrong!!! I'm never to busy to cross swords with the far right and especially with Malkin. I consider myself a leftist liberal and I can agree on only items 8 & 9 of her list. And then only with some changes or explanations. Like most generalizations, her's is generally wrong.:D
Ignorant little man, May Day is a celebration of Summer!
It's a party to celebrate the change in weather for the better and it goes back much farther than even the Roman empire.
Quoting Coulter is not smart little man, she's wrong more than you are.
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 03:25 PM
Ignorant little man, May Day is a celebration of Summer!
It's a party to celebrate the change in weather for the better and it goes back much farther than even the Roman empire.
Quoting Coulter is not smart little man, she's wrong more than you are.
You don't have to preface your posts with your title Todd, we know you well here. :D
KB1PLB
05-01-2008, 03:44 PM
Darn it, I thought us southpaws had a day. :(
Ignorant little man, May Day is a celebration of Summer!
It's a party to celebrate the change in weather for the better and it goes back much farther than even the Roman empire.
Quoting Coulter is not smart little man, she's wrong more than you are.
Coulter? I thought he was quoting Malkin. Maybe you type too fast?
Coulter? I thought he was quoting Malkin. Maybe you type too fast?
Doh! Yup, Malkin. Even worse.
k4kyv
05-01-2008, 05:08 PM
FYI (particularly for those who are ignorant of the world beyond US borders):
The first day of May is Labour Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_day) in nearly every country in the world except for the U.S. and Canada. It's basically the same holiday that United States-ese and Canadians celebrate the first Monday of September. In the US, Labor Day is regarded more as a day of rest compared to the May 1st Labour Day celebrations in most other countries, and the parades, speeches are political demonstrations we do have here are more low-key.
Labor celebrations conducted on May 1 commemorate the fight for the eight hour day. It has become an international celebration of the social and economic achievements of the labour movement, so in this regard it is also called International Workers' Day. The choice of May 1st was a commemoration for the people involved in the 1886 Haymarket affair (http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/571.html) in Chicago. As the culmination of three days of labor unrest in the United States, the Haymarket incident was a source of outrage and admiration from people around the globe. In countries other than the United States and Canada, residents sought to make May Day an official holiday and their efforts largely succeeded.
Although May Day received its inspiration from the United States, in North America, that date was too much a political hot potato, particularly since the day's appropriation by the Soviet Union, so the celebration was established in September. This is also seen as an effort to isolate American workers from the rest of the worldwide community. During the McCarthy era in the early 50's, Americans were led to see May Day as a Communist holiday. In many countries, the May Day parades are used as an opportunity to show disapproval with the government or to protest cuts in social programs.
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 05:08 PM
Doh! Yup, Malkin. Even worse.
Slow down there Homer! :D
FYI (particularly for those who are ignorant of the world beyond US borders):
Wrong.
Try here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day)
The earliest May Day celebrations appeared in pre-Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian) Europe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe), as in the Celtic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_nations) celebration of Beltane (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beltane), and the Walpurgis Night (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walpurgis_Night) of the Germanic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples) countries. Many pre-Christian indigenous celebrations were eventually banned or Christianized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianization) during the process of Christianization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianization) in Europe. As a result, a more secular version of the holiday continued to be observed in the schools and churches of Europe well into the 20th century. In this form, May Day may be best known for its tradition of dancing the Maypole (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maypole) and crowning of the Queen of the May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_May). Today various Neopagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neopaganism) groups celebrate reconstructed (to varying degrees) versions of these customs on 1 May (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1).
The day was a traditional summer holiday in many pre-Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian) European (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europe) pagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paganism) cultures. While February 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_1) was the first day of Spring (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spring_%28season%29), May 1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1) was the first day of summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer); hence, the summer solstice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_solstice) on June 25 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_25) (now June 21 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_21)) was Midsummer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midsummer). In the Roman Catholic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic) tradition, May is observed as Mary's month, and in these circles May Day is usually a celebration of the Blessed Virgin Mary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mary). In this connection, in works of art, school skits, and so forth, Mary's head will often be adorned with flowers. Fading in popularity since the late 20th century is the giving of "May baskets," small baskets of sweets and/or flowers, usually left anonymously on neighbors' doorsteps.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day#cite_note-1)
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 05:16 PM
FYI (particularly for those who are ignorant of the world beyond US borders):
Aren't you lucky to have old Todd around to correct you? :)
Aren't you lucky to have old Todd around to correct you? :)
Everyone should be as lucky. :cool:
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 05:41 PM
Everyone should be as lucky. :cool:
Hey, maybe The Honorable Rev. Dr. Todd J. Mondragon??? :p
Yeah man, that has a ring to it!!! :rolleyes:
Hey, maybe The Honorable Rev. Dr. Todd J. Mondragon??? :p
Yeah man, that has a ring to it!!! :rolleyes:
Nope, no honorary degrees here.
And I'm not a Judge either.
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 05:46 PM
Nope, no honorary degrees here.
And I'm not a Judge either.
Don't shoot so low todd. Anybody can be a lawyer or judge, we had a local city judge that graduated from the federal prison system. :D
K0RGR
05-01-2008, 06:30 PM
Wow! That was an almost incomprehensible Malkin blurb. The woman must be off her meds.
Do the Russians still parade their military hardware on May Day? How about Peking?
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 06:44 PM
Wow! That was an almost incomprehensible Malkin blurb. The woman must be off her meds.
Do the Russians still parade their military hardware on May Day? How about Peking?
What woman? :confused:
n2ize
05-01-2008, 06:59 PM
We don't celebrate May day on may 1st in America. Here in the US May 1st is "Law Day".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_Day,_U.S.A.
May Day was once a day of festivities. Music would play and young girls would don their spring dresses and dance around the May pole with ribbons in celebration of the arrival of spring/summer and the beginning of the new growing season. It was also tied in with the growth of society, social progress and labor rights. celebrating social progress and labor rights is a bit much for some Americans. Too communistic for the fearmongers.. So now we celebrate the role of law instead.
N4VGB
05-01-2008, 07:02 PM
So now we celebrate the role of law instead.
Which leaves us little to celebrate. ;)
PA5COR
05-01-2008, 09:12 PM
Wife's birthday
REst is not important ;)
K0RGR
05-01-2008, 09:50 PM
What woman? :confused:
Malkin appears to be an Asian-American female. But Coulter looks human, too, so looks can be deceiving.
May day is liberation day for many of the folks outside of the USA. And let me tell you they know how to party. I wish I could remember May 1st when I lived in Belgium -- I can't because when they found out their holiday was also by B-Day I did not buy another drink the rest of the night.
At least the next day I didn't wake up with any unexpected skin art, medical gifts, or a bride
n2ize
05-02-2008, 03:15 AM
Malkin appears to be an Asian-American female. But Coulter looks human, too, so looks can be deceiving.
IMHO Malkin is by far better looking than Coulter. But their politics and opinions are equally lousy.
ve3sre
05-02-2008, 04:15 AM
K4KYV is correct about May Day (as a Labour Day) originating in Chicago in 1886, but not quite correct about the September Labour Day. It originated in Toronto...a legacy of the printers strike in April, 1872 for the 56 hour work week. Labour Festivals were held annually after that.
An official of the American Federation of Labour was invited to speak at the 1882 Toronto labour festival and then decided to copy the idea and organized a similar event in New York the same year on the first Monday of September.
In 1894 it was made a public holiday in both countries.
So...the September Labour Day is part of the "vast Canadian conspiracy" :)
Both labour days originated in 19th century fights to shorten working hours. We've lived with the (more or less) 40 hour work week being standard since about the 1940's. Might not it be about time to shorten the work week again? So we'd have more free time to do things like...I dunno...play ham radio? ;)
W1GUH
05-02-2008, 04:19 AM
Music would play and young girls would don their spring dresses and dance around the May pole with ribbons in celebration of the arrival of spring/summer and the beginning of the new growing season.
Fertility rites?
n2ize
05-02-2008, 04:23 AM
Fertility rites?
Hmmm... maybe ?
w2amr
05-02-2008, 10:28 AM
IMHO Malkin is by far better looking than Coulter. But their politics and opinions are equally lousy.
Malkin has a face like a mule, Coulter's like a horse. If you are into barn yard animals............:D
KD0DKI
05-02-2008, 07:09 PM
What will be said on the 5th of May about the people who have a holiday that day?
ve3sre
05-03-2008, 01:13 AM
My understanding from the Wikipedia article is that May 5th (Cinco de Mayo) is primarily celebrated by Mexican expatriates living in the U.S. It's not really observed in Mexico...other than in a few Mexican states...like the state of Puebla for obvious reasons.
It celebrates the expulsion of French troops from Mexico at the Battle of Puebla on May 5, 1862.
N4VGB
05-03-2008, 01:21 AM
And here I thought it was just a good excuse to drink Corona and if you're really brave "eat the worm" from a bottle of good tequila! :eek:
There really is a reason for Cinco de Mayo!? :)
N4VGB
05-03-2008, 03:43 AM
Malkin has a face like a mule, Coulter's like a horse. If you are into barn yard animals............:D
And you lust for both! :cool:
oh2gra
05-03-2008, 04:33 PM
[QUOTE=kv1m;1212162]Ignorant little man, May Day is a celebration of Summer!
It's a party to celebrate the change in weather for the better and it goes back much farther than even the Roman empire.
Indeed it is a selebration of summer. Also a Labor day.
[quote=kv1m;1212162]Ignorant little man, May Day is a celebration of Summer!
It's a party to celebrate the change in weather for the better and it goes back much farther than even the Roman empire.
Indeed it is a selebration of summer. Also a Labor day.
Centuries later yes. To try to spin it as originating as a Labor movement holiday is disingenuous and it is that I was pointing out.
n2ize
05-04-2008, 09:43 AM
Here in the USA it's a non-issue. We don't celebrate May day in the USA. It was changed to "Law day". So now we celebrate "law day" while the rest of the world celebrates "may day".
May day was considered too communistic for the powers that be here in the USA. Here in the USA we honor the strength of law and enforcement, not wimpy commie stuff like the rites of spring or labor or any of that poor mans drivel.
I think it should really be changed to "WAR DAY", in which we honor and celebrate the role of war. Or maybe "Jail day" or "arrest day"to honor the role of jails and arrests. Or how about "surveillance day" to honor the role of wiretapping and surveillance in our modern world.
Celebrate this.....
http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/the_decline_of_leftism_in_euro.html
2M0URN
05-05-2008, 12:11 AM
Wrong.
Try here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Day)
The term Beltane comes from bel-tan, ubel (Royal Purple) and tan (time). Traditionally in these parts it was and still is a time for Weddings. The festival goes back to Grecian times (and beyond), where Homer, refering to the union of Odysseus and Circe quotes " One laid out the coverlets, splendid and stained in purple,over the backs of the chairs, and spread on the seats the cloths to sit on. The second drew up the silver tables and placed them in front of the chairs, and laid out the golden serving baskets upon them. The third mixed wine, kindly sweet and fragrant, in the silver mixing bowl, and set out the golden goblet. (Odyssey X:352)
73's
2M0URN
ve3sre
05-05-2008, 04:37 AM
It's not the first time in the history of the world that a traditional holiday that had one purpose was later transformed to celebrate something else.
Christmas is an example. There were originally alot of pagan Winter Solstice festivals throughout Europe in the pre-Christian era...celebrating the return of longer hours of daylight.
Then when the Roman Empire adopted Christianity as the state religion they changed these traditional winter solstice festivals into a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.
73
The term Beltane comes from bel-tan, ubel (Royal Purple) and tan (time). Traditionally in these parts it was and still is a time for Weddings. The festival goes back to Grecian times (and beyond), where Homer, refering to the union of Odysseus and Circe quotes " One laid out the coverlets, splendid and stained in purple,over the backs of the chairs, and spread on the seats the cloths to sit on. The second drew up the silver tables and placed them in front of the chairs, and laid out the golden serving baskets upon them. The third mixed wine, kindly sweet and fragrant, in the silver mixing bowl, and set out the golden goblet. (Odyssey X:352)
73's
2M0URN
Very nice, illustrates the ancient origins of the day.
w2amr
05-05-2008, 10:22 AM
Here in the USA it's a non-issue. We don't celebrate May day in the USA. It was changed to "Law day". So now we celebrate "law day" while the rest of the world celebrates "may day".
May day was considered too communistic for the powers that be here in the USA. Here in the USA we honor the strength of law and enforcement, not wimpy commie stuff like the rites of spring or labor or any of that poor mans drivel.
I think it should really be changed to "WAR DAY", in which we honor and celebrate the role of war. Or maybe "Jail day" or "arrest day"to honor the role of jails and arrests. Or how about "surveillance day" to honor the role of wiretapping and surveillance in our modern world.
And EVERY day is link bott day. :(
The celebration continues.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID=D6E27ECE-9798-4F01-A378-3F1405F69704