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K2WH
04-18-2008, 11:03 PM
Extreme left wing Maher called the Pope a Nazi on his HBO show. While I have never watched this guy, I have heard of some of the disgusting things he has said in the past. This one tops em all. I think the man like Imus and other talk show host going over "The Line", needs to lose his job. Just to set the record, I am not Catholic.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351758,00.html

kc9ldg
04-18-2008, 11:09 PM
Wow that is horrible that someone would call the pope a nazi. I am Catholic and i believe that the pope isnt just a role model for catholics but for all christians that name deserves to get in some trouble, and as far as the Catholics being a child abusing religous cult thats not right either.

KC7YPJ
04-18-2008, 11:29 PM
and as far as the Catholics being a child abusing religous cult thats not right either.

nah, the pedophile's in catholocism are easy to spot, it's the guy with a white colar or nice pretty ornate robe and hat...

the people in general are just sheep needing a herder that are willing to put up with the herder gettin a little wooly lovin every now and then...

maher will get a token slap on the hand, he's the liberal posterboy so don't expect the story to get jack for airtime like the imus deal did.

to quote nichelson in the departed - "I am as god made me, was that your rationalization?"

kc9ldg
04-18-2008, 11:47 PM
Yea i dont know since ive never had a pedophilic priest so i cant say that i know what one is like lol. But yeah your right he will get a slap on the wrist and the story will be shoved under the rug.

K1CJS
04-19-2008, 12:07 AM
Yea i dont know since ive never had a pedophilic priest so i cant say that i know what one is like lol. But yeah your right he will get a slap on the wrist and the story will be shoved under the rug.

Not any more. Or haven't you seen the news stories of goings on in the church. The mess caused by those priests is being cleaned up. The catholic church got one heck of a black eye from it, but time heals almost everything.

I still wonder about some of the priests, but a local one was removed from his parish post after allegations surfaced about him--he is now working in the diocesan office in a post where he doesn't have daily contact with the people until the investigations and final disposition of his future is concluded. Just for the record--he claims he is innocent of the charge, that's why he hasn't been jailed or defrocked.

KA8NCR
04-19-2008, 03:12 AM
Extreme left wing Maher called the Pope a Nazi on his HBO show. While I have never watched this guy, I have heard of some of the disgusting things he has said in the past. This one tops em all. I think the man like Imus and other talk show host going over "The Line", needs to lose his job. Just to set the record, I am not Catholic.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351758,00.html

He's playing the same game as Ann Coulter. In fact, he has referred to Ann as a very good friend.

KA8NCR
04-19-2008, 03:16 AM
Wow that is horrible that someone would call the pope a nazi. I am Catholic and i believe that the pope isnt just a role model for catholics but for all christians that name deserves to get in some trouble, and as far as the Catholics being a child abusing religous cult thats not right either.

The Pople serves as a role model for dedication of one's beliefs. I certainly don't think he's a role model for Christians; the Catholic church is only slightly more progressive with respect to women than other fundamentalist religions. Bill Maher has been a critic of how all religions treat women.

N2RJ
04-19-2008, 03:18 AM
Wow that is horrible that someone would call the pope a nazi.

Unfortunately for some people, it is a reflex reaction.

Anyone who disagrees with them is a "nazi."

w6ire
04-19-2008, 03:45 PM
It is interesting to ponder the similarities between Bill Maher and the Pope. Both are paid very well to tell people what they want to hear. Most of what comes out of their mouths is utter nonsense. I could go on and on, but they're both in show business and unworthy of being taken seriously.

KB1JCY
04-19-2008, 04:20 PM
Invoke Goodwin's Law

AE6IP
04-19-2008, 05:22 PM
tempest, meet teapot.

KB9YCO
04-20-2008, 11:23 PM
So, I wonder how many people here actually heard what he said, or that realize that it's a COMEDY show?!?! Political and satirical but a COMEDY show nonetheless. I'll grant you that the comment was mean, but so what? That's what satire does, it's not all supposed to be nice and funny with 'knock knock' jokes and pleasing to every ear. If you actually see the clip then it's pretty obvious that it's satirical, but there are just a lot of people out there that are intolerant of anything that knocks on what they choose to believe. I personally could care less, anyone with the courage of their convictions wouldn't. Those people that can't handle it need to lighten up and not watch it if they don't like it.

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Click below for the clip. Here's what he actually said:

Whenever a cult leader sets himself up as God's infallible wingman, here on Earth, lock away the kids. Which is why I'd like to tip off law enforcement to an even larger child-abusing religious cult. Its leader also has a compound, and this guy not only operates outside the bounds of the law, but he used to be a Nazi and he wears funny hats. That's right, the Pope is coming to America this week and ladies, he's single!

...When the current pope was in his previous Vatican job as John Paul's Dick Cheney, he wrote a letter instructing every Catholic bishop to keep the sex abuse of minors secret until the Statute of Limitations ran out. And that's the Church's attitude: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it..." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFfbR_BWsuU&feature=related)

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It's so obviously meant to be funny and satirical that I don't know how anyone can really take it seriously. Disagree with it? Fine, but it's just someone talking trash, doing comedy. I'm not saying it's nice, or that the Nazi comment is accurate (though it's been a popular misconception for quite sometime now, therefore entered into the pop culture lexicon), I'm just repeating that IT'S SATIRE, it's not supposed to 'please' everyone. Whether or not you like Bill Maher, I don't think he has anything to apologize for, certainly he shouldn't be "fired" as some are suggesting. It's called free speech and you are free to not view it.

K2WH
04-21-2008, 12:14 AM
So, I wonder how many people here actually heard what he said, or that realize that it's a COMEDY show?!?! Political and satirical but a COMEDY show nonetheless. I'll grant you that the comment was mean, but so what? That's what satire does, it's not all supposed to be nice and funny with 'knock knock' jokes and pleasing to every ear. If you actually see the clip then it's pretty obvious that it's satirical, but there are just a lot of people out there that are intolerant of anything that knocks on what they choose to believe. I personally could care less, anyone with the courage of their convictions wouldn't. Those people that can't handle it need to lighten up and not watch it if they don't like it.

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Click below for the clip. Here's what he actually said:

Whenever a cult leader sets himself up as God's infallible wingman, here on Earth, lock away the kids. Which is why I'd like to tip off law enforcement to an even larger child-abusing religious cult. Its leader also has a compound, and this guy not only operates outside the bounds of the law, but he used to be a Nazi and he wears funny hats. That's right, the Pope is coming to America this week and ladies, he's single!

...When the current pope was in his previous Vatican job as John Paul's Dick Cheney, he wrote a letter instructing every Catholic bishop to keep the sex abuse of minors secret until the Statute of Limitations ran out. And that's the Church's attitude: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it..." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFfbR_BWsuU&feature=related)

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It's so obviously meant to be funny and satirical that I don't know how anyone can really take it seriously. Disagree with it? Fine, but it's just someone talking trash, doing comedy. I'm not saying it's nice, or that the Nazi comment is accurate (though it's been a popular misconception for quite sometime now, therefore entered into the pop culture lexicon), I'm just repeating that IT'S SATIRE, it's not supposed to 'please' everyone. Whether or not you like Bill Maher, I don't think he has anything to apologize for, certainly he shouldn't be "fired" as some are suggesting. It's called free speech and you are free to not view it.

With Maher, its not satire, he truly believes it. He is a Godless SOB. If O'Reilly, Hannity or Limbaugh had said it, they would join the ranks of the unemployed. Maher will get a pass.

K2WH

ai4ep
04-21-2008, 12:30 AM
Maher can not help it, he is just being him self.

N5PAR
04-21-2008, 12:38 AM
According to most of the major networks the Pope was a nazi during WWII. He was drafted into the German Army near the end of the war. At that time in Germany with Hitler killing hunderds of his own people for not accomplishing a task or following orders. It was a matter of survival to be a nazi.

I would like to think that a good percentage of Germans just went with the flow to keep out of trouble with their own government. Just like everyone in the U.S.S.R was a communist and a party member. Logic tells you not all of them thought communisum was a good idea.

While am not Chatolic I am a Christian and believe he is a good man with good intentions.

k5syn
04-21-2008, 09:39 AM
It is interesting to ponder the similarities between Bill Maher and the Pope. Both are paid very well to tell people what they want to hear. Most of what comes out of their mouths is utter nonsense. I could go on and on, but they're both in show business and unworthy of being taken seriously.

I think you hit it right there... unworthy of being taken seriously. Maher is a political and current events comedian, he makes jokes, and last I saw he gave both sides, left and right as much of a beating.

It's easy enough to ignore what he says since it was on HBO. Either change the channel, or don't order it to begin with, problem solved.

KB9BVN
04-21-2008, 03:46 PM
According to most of the major networks the Pope was a nazi during WWII. He was drafted into the German Army near the end of the war. At that time in Germany with Hitler killing hunderds of his own people for not accomplishing a task or following orders. It was a matter of survival to be a nazi.

I would like to think that a good percentage of Germans just went with the flow to keep out of trouble with their own government. Just like everyone in the U.S.S.R was a communist and a party member. Logic tells you not all of them thought communisum was a good idea.

While am not Chatolic I am a Christian and believe he is a good man with good intentions.

Just to set the record as little straighter....from WIKI

Following his fourteenth birthday in 1941, Ratzinger was enrolled in the Hitler Youth — as membership was required for all 14-year old German boys after December 1939 — but was an unenthusiastic member and refused to attend meetings. His father was a bitter enemy of Nazism, believing it conflicted with the Catholic faith, according to biographer John L. Allen, Jr. In 1941, one of Ratzinger's cousins, a 14-year-old boy with Down syndrome, was killed by the Nazi regime in its campaign of eugenics.

[Obviously an inspiration to racist Planned Parenthood founder, Margaret Sanger]

In 1943 while still in seminary, he was drafted at age 16 into the German anti-aircraft corps. Ratzinger then trained in the German infantry, but a subsequent illness precluded him from the usual rigours of military duty. As the Allied front drew closer to his post in 1945, he deserted back to his family's home in Traunstein after his unit had ceased to exist, just as American troops established their headquarters in the Ratzinger household.

As a German soldier, he was put in a POW camp but was released a few months later at the end of the War in summer 1945. He reentered the seminary, along with his brother Georg, in November of that year.

KD6NIG
04-21-2008, 04:15 PM
I have grandparents (well, grandparent now) that were there during that time, and you're right-you either "joined up" or you weren't heard from again, basically.

So if you lived there during that time, at least publically, you flew the flag and said the right things. Maybe in private you were against it, but if you spoke out, you usually weren't heard from for long.

By walking the walk and talking the talk, you earned the right to continue doing both. And things were not that great in country under the regime either like many claim. You just didn't talk about it lest you get in trouble.

You could technically call anyone during that era that if they lived. But most did it for survival, not because they wanted to or believed in it.

w6ire
04-21-2008, 07:54 PM
You could technically call anyone during that era that if they lived. But most did it for survival, not because they wanted to or believed in it.

100% Correct.

w2amr
04-21-2008, 10:22 PM
With Maher, its not satire, he truly believes it. He is a Godless SOB. If O'Reilly, Hannity or Limbaugh had said it, they would join the ranks of the unemployed. Maher will get a pass.

K2WH
Oh Geez. :(

w2amr
04-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Extreme left wing Maher called the Pope a Nazi on his HBO show. While I have never watched this guy, I have heard of some of the disgusting things he has said in the past. This one tops em all. I think the man like Imus and other talk show host going over "The Line", needs to lose his job. Just to set the record, I am not Catholic.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,351758,00.html
Very unfair, he hasn't been a nazi for years.

n5xm
04-22-2008, 05:06 PM
I used to be put off by Maher, but now I really enjoy his show. It IS entertainment, not a whole lot different than Zappa or George Carlin. They are all equal opportunity offenders. I've seen him make comments that rip both liberals and conservatives. He's certainly not the only one in America that is sick and tired up to their nostrils about the bs our politicians put upon us year after year, on and on. He has hard core conservatives, hard core liberals, hard core independants on his show, and there is actually dialogue. If you think about it, the day we cannot insult the powers that be is the day our Freedom is kaput. Don't take yourselves so seriously!

w2amr
04-22-2008, 05:32 PM
I used to be put off by Maher, but now I really enjoy his show. It IS entertainment, not a whole lot different than Zappa or George Carlin. They are all equal opportunity offenders. I've seen him make comments that rip both liberals and conservatives. He's certainly not the only one in America that is sick and tired up to their nostrils about the bs our politicians put upon us year after year, on and on. He has hard core conservatives, hard core liberals, hard core independants on his show, and there is actually dialogue. If you think about it, the day we cannot insult the powers that be is the day our Freedom is kaput. Don't take yourselves so seriously!
Amen brother.

KB9YCO
04-22-2008, 06:34 PM
I used to be put off by Maher, but now I really enjoy his show. It IS entertainment, not a whole lot different than Zappa or George Carlin. They are all equal opportunity offenders. I've seen him make comments that rip both liberals and conservatives. He's certainly not the only one in America that is sick and tired up to their nostrils about the bs our politicians put upon us year after year, on and on. He has hard core conservatives, hard core liberals, hard core independants on his show, and there is actually dialogue. If you think about it, the day we cannot insult the powers that be is the day our Freedom is kaput. Don't take yourselves so seriously!

That's exactly what I was saying, which of course was ignored in the usual sea of partisan and left/right garbage. It's satire, it's not meant to be pleasant, it has a designated target. His show is all inclusive, and regardless of what he personally thinks or believes he is most definitely an equal opportunity offender.
Besides, was Mark Twain nice about everything he said? How about Ambrose Bierce? How about Lenny Bruce, or Bill Hicks? Or, as you wisely mentioned, Frank Zappa or George Carlin? It's called satire, it's social commentary not necessarily pleasing to everyone. Some people just have no tolerance for anything they deem offensive to what they personally choose to believe. To that I say TOO BAD, it's America and free speech in alive and well. That's the price of free speech, it may often include material you don't like, which of course you are free to IGNORE!