Two-Front War Strains Putting U.S. At Risk

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This isn't defeatist, it's reality. I mentioned a few weeks ago that continuing to ignore Afghanistan would result in dire consequences.
Faced with the demands of fighting a two-front war, the Joint Chiefs warned President Bush Wednesday that more U.S. troops may soon be needed in Afghanistan.
But Afghanistan, where there are nearly 60,000 NATO troops, 31,000 of them American, is facing rising levels of violence, and the top commander there has warned the Pentagon he may send out a call for reinforcements.
The Joint Chiefs, who do not command troops but are legally responsible for ensuring the fitness of the forces they provide to commanders, have grown increasingly concerned that the weight of five-plus years of war in Iraq could create severe, long-term problems, particularly for the Army and Marine Corps.

It doesn't seem like much good news was shared in these meetings.

Before you damn the source, read the article. It's an AP story, and will be carried by all the reputable news sources.

Military Tells Bush That Troops Sent To Iraq For Surge May Be Needed In Afghanistan (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/26/national/main3971190.shtml)

No end in sight. :(

[KB9YCO]

Military tells Bush of troop strains:

WASHINGTON - Behind the Pentagon's closed doors, U.S. military leaders told President Bush Wednesday they are worried about the Iraq war's mounting strain on troops and their families. But they indicated they'd go along with a brief halt in pulling out troops this summer.

The Joint Chiefs, who do not command troops but are legally responsible for ensuring the fitness of the forces they provide to commanders, have grown increasingly concerned that the weight of five-plus years of war in Iraq could create severe, long-term problems, particularly for the Army and Marine Corps. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080326/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq;_ylt=AkVO1cDBELy6KEe47uYrjTms0NUE)

It's definitely not a good sign of how things are going or will go. I don't really believe that we should just leave since we largely created the mess in Iraq, but at the same time I have no idea what a reasonable resolution to this situation will be. Such a shame, what a mess.

[AE6IP]

The solution in Iraq is to just leave. We created a mess there that we're not going to be able to resolve. Iraq was an artificial construct in the first place, and its neighbors are absolutely not happy with it existing, but there's no way to divide it up that won't cause as much trouble as there is on the ground now.

We still have enough ethics left (I hope) that we're unwilling to keep peace the way Hussain did, and there's no other way, beyond letting them sort it out for themselves.

[n2nh]

Why not attack all those who have WMDs at the same time? Why not go after all the countries that are putting their people to death at the same time? Why not bring democracy to all those countries that don't have it at the same time?

We're going to H3ll in a handbasket anyway. Might as well do it right.:confused:

[KB9YCO]

Why not attack all those who have WMDs at the same time? Why not go after all the countries that are putting their people to death at the same time? Why not bring democracy to all those countries that don't have it at the same time?

We're going to H3ll in a handbasket anyway. Might as well do it right.:confused:

Let's just nuke the rest of the world, then pave it and rename it "PLANET AMERICA"!!!!!

http://granitegrok.com/pix/mushroom_cloud.jpg

(I really hope that people understand that I'm joking, I know most the (ir)regulars would know, but you never know about those that we don't know that might not know what we all know that we know. Ya know?)

[KU0DM]

I know!

Since our president has a record for nominating great people, let's have BREMER take care of Afghanistan!
We all saw how well he did in Iraq, let's have him fix Afghanistan too!

You know, you'd think once is enough for some, but neocons aren't some, I guess they need something to occur over and over again, before they realize "Don't...do..."

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Odd that this story is pretty much ignored by the uber right wing noise machine.

Must be too many facts in it.

I thought the status of our military was an important topic, it being an election year and all.

Please do have a wonderful evening. :)

[KB9YCO]

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Odd that this story is pretty much ignored by the uber right wing noise machine.

Must be too many facts in it.

I thought the status of our military was an important topic, it being an election year and all.

Please do have a wonderful evening. :)

It's only important if it fits in with the agenda. Otherwise it's just "liberal media" spin.

[K0RGR]

I know!

Since our president has a record for nominating great people, let's have BREMER take care of Afghanistan!
We all saw how well he did in Iraq, let's have him fix Afghanistan too!

You know, you'd think once is enough for some, but neocons aren't some, I guess they need something to occur over and over again, before they realize "Don't...do..."
No, we don't need Bremer - we need "Brownie". He can come in and let the Tigris and Euphrates flood, and eliminate the whole Iraqi problem.

Seriously, I will know we're serious when somebody arrests Moqtada Al Sadr.
That man has killed more Americans in Iraq than anyone else.

[w2amr]

No, we don't need Bremer - we need "Brownie". He can come in and let the Tigris and Euphrates flood, and eliminate the whole Iraqi problem.

Seriously, I will know we're serious when somebody arrests Moqtada Al Sadr.
That man has killed more Americans in Iraq than anyone else.
Oh yeah, I rember Brownie. And Scooter, and Ashcroft, and Rummy, and Powell, and Gonzo, and Wolfie, ............
Hey, where did everybody go? :p

[KV1M]

No, we don't need Bremer - we need "Brownie". He can come in and let the Tigris and Euphrates flood, and eliminate the whole Iraqi problem.

Seriously, I will know we're serious when somebody arrests Moqtada Al Sadr.
That man has killed more Americans in Iraq than anyone else.

Nice post! Kill em all, right?

Well, Bushies on the job on that one eh?
Too bad he's killed the US right along with Iraq.

[K0DXC]

If he's so bad why did we elect him for a second term?

Besides the fact that sometimes this country can have the IQ of a rock of course.

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If he's so bad why did we elect him for a second term?

Besides the fact that sometimes this country can have the IQ of a rock of course.

Halliburton?

Just thinking out loud again. :)

I wish a fine, outstanding, and most enjoyable evening to all my highly respected peers. :) :) :)

[KV1M]

If he's so bad why did we elect him for a second term?

Besides the fact that sometimes this country can have the IQ of a rock of course.

That answer is about the right one.

But I have a better one.

You reelected the lying war criminal because the "liberal" media went out of it's way to bash the other candidates as much as possible while not reporting the documented crimes of GW during the election.

They even withheld the info that GW lied us into the war until after the election "because is might unfairly influence the vote".


You got conned.

And now some of you try pretend it was a legitimate, unbiased, fair election. Even knowing the Ohio machines were rigged (how come the liberal media hasn't reported this eh? Because they are too liberal or what?) you still pretend that it was fair and square.

[W5JO]

Just thinking out loud again.

You have a tendency to do this. Why don't you try to do it silently? Your disrespect is plain and obvious as others display.

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You have a tendency to do this. Why don't you try to do it silently? Your disrespect is plain and obvious as others display.

No! I've moderated my posts. Have a look around, and see for yourself! I can't show respect for the administration, but otherwise, I'm pouring it on in your honor!

Of course, might I suggest the ignore feature again. Respectfully, of course. It seems you're having that problem coping again.

But, above all else, have a delightful evening! :):):):)

EDIT: And please, sir, at your convenience, of course, do visit the "Milk of Human Kindness" thread, so you can pounce on those mean, nasty right wingers who aren't showing respect for their peers. We don't want anyone to think of you as a hypocrite, now do we? :)

[KV1M]

You have a tendency to do this. Why don't you try to do it silently? Your disrespect is plain and obvious as others display.


Ahh, poor little baby is offended?

You guys have been calling us stupid traitors, liars and terrorists for about 10 years now. You don't deserve respect.

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Odd that this story is pretty much ignored by the uber right wing noise machine.

Must be too many facts in it.

I thought the status of our military was an important topic, it being an election year and all.

Please do have a wonderful evening. :)

It's only important if it fits in with the agenda. Otherwise it's just "liberal media" spin.

I was hoping that was not the case, but I fear that you are correct. Those who fall right of center on the political spectrum seem to have an unusual fascination with Mrs. Clinton, even though she's not likely to get the Democratic nod.

It's very curious, as if they are avoiding the topic. I though they were in full support of the troops? You would think more concern would be shown for them in this critical discussion of their state of readiness.

Please allow me to wish everyone a delightful evening! :)

[N4VGB]

"Government — Two Party Corporate Political Crime Syndicate"

So what difference does it make which party is in control? If they're both just a "crime syndicate", one is as good as the other!

The trick is to never give either party total control. If one controls the House & Senate, put the other in the White House. That keeps them busy revealing each others sins and fighting amongst themselves. Gives us time to be prosperous, since they're to busy to rob us.

[w2amr]

"Government — Two Party Corporate Political Crime Syndicate"

So what difference does it make which party is in control? If they're both just a "crime syndicate", one is as good as the other!

The trick is to never give either party total control. If one controls the House & Senate, put the other in the White House. That keeps them busy revealing each others sins and fighting amongst themselves. Gives us time to be prosperous, since they're to busy to rob us.
And how has that been working out lately? :confused:

[W1GUH]

We'll see a regional conflict there soon, if it isn't, in fact, happening today. But what the hey? We're all gonna get BIG BUCKS in the mail from Uncle Sam, and that's going to make everything just fine and dandy, yes it is. Yep.

We're not going to hell in a handbasket, we've gone to hell in a handbasket. You just haven't heard about it on the news yet.