View Full Version : Draw
KC9IUX
03-25-2008, 01:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbklCvsoFRo
w6ire
03-25-2008, 01:25 AM
If that guy could find a time machine and go back to the old west, he'd be the most dangerous gunfighter that ever lived. I did read something once about gun fights, maybe you guys can confirm or deny this: When your opponent starts to draw, because of the delay in recognizing this and reacting to it, no matter how fast you are, once your opponent has begun drawing, it's impossible to "out draw" him.
True?
w6ire
03-25-2008, 01:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTRZ88WMWQQ
KC0OGH
03-26-2008, 12:32 AM
If that guy could find a time machine and go back to the old west, he'd be the most dangerous gunfighter that ever lived. I did read something once about gun fights, maybe you guys can confirm or deny this: When your opponent starts to draw, because of the delay in recognizing this and reacting to it, no matter how fast you are, once your opponent has begun drawing, it's impossible to "out draw" him.
True?
This is not completely true. I shoot in USPSA competition regularly and on an average day, I can draw and fire an "A zone" hit on a target at a distance of 15 yards in about 1.17 seconds. This is timed from a start signal given by an electronic timer that then measures the elapsed time to each shot in a string. I can assure you that I am by no means as fast as Mr. Munden and that the action of drawing and firing probably takes just under a second. But I do have very fast reflexes and reaction times. The other thing that is important is to be able to hit your intended target. No matter how fast you can get the gun from holster, if you can not get on target and deliver a hit, speed is not an issue.
Bob Mundun's ability is certainly second to none, and he is a true gentleman and wonderful entertainer but as he said, its kinda like a magician doing tricks. He truly is as fast as is claimed in the video, but there are things that you are not aware of as well. When he shoots the two balloons, he is not firing bullets at the balloons, but rather is firing blanks. This serves two purposes:
1. Without a bullet in the gun, there is almost no recoil to have to counteract to get back on target for the second shot.
2. The balloons are actually popped by the expulsion of debris from the blank being fired (unburnt powder particles ect.) Thus he is not required to have a great degree of accuracy as this debris acts much like shot from a shotgun adn spreads to a fairly large pattern.
This is not intended to take anything away from Mr. Munden, as he truly is the very best at what he does. It is simply intended to enlighten and educate. Comparing any competition with guns to actual combat is at best misleading.
KC0OGH
K8ERV
03-26-2008, 12:43 AM
I saw Bob Mundan perform, absoletely amazing. Watched his holster, knowing what he was going to do (he did it before). He drew, popped the baloon, and reholstered the gun. I could not see ANY motion.
To prove that he did the shooting, not an accomplice, he had two people check that all chambers were loaded, then that he had in fact fired two of them.
Another reason for shooting blanks is that nothing gets damaged.
Now I have a question. Read that there is no documented case of the classic western shootout between two men on main street. Way back that is, D.C. doesn't count.
Of course not being documented doesn't mean it did not happen. Maybe the shootout was so common that it was not noteworthy, or that paper was expensive. Or nobody could write. Comments?
TOM K8ERV Montrose Colo